***The Official 2015 Seattle Seahawks Offseason Thread***

[Groundhog 24]

2015 regular season schedule comes out tomorrow...

 

Here's a few things I'll be looking for, to determine whether this is a good or bad schedule:

 

1. Consecutive road games - no more than two, please. It's rare that a team gets 3 in a row on the road, but it does happen occasionally.

2. Games where opponent has an extra week of rest, i.e., coming off a bye when the Hawks do not. This sucks when it happens.

3. How many 10am PST start times for games on the east coast? Would rather have those games be on prime-time TV than be at 10am and mess with those fickle circadian rhythms.

4. The game at Arizona - ideally not within Wks 1-4... Arizona in September is an extra physical toll.

5. Divisional road games - ideally not Wk16 or Wk17 - would rather see divisional opponents have to come to the CLink in December.

6. When is the bye week? The later the better. Having a bye in wk4 is way too early when injuries get worse over the course of a season.

 

Non-divisional opponents at home: Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Carolina

Non-divisional opponents on road: Green Bay, Minnesota, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Dallas

[phillybear 366]

There seems to be an emerging pattern with the players the Seahawks have had visit, or players that they are strongly linked to:

 

Breshad Perriman, WR, Central Florida

Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma

Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn

Tyler Lockett, WR, Kansas St

Ty Montgomery, WR, Stanford

 

Damarious Randle, FS, Arizona St

 

Mario Edwards, DE, Florida St

Mike Davis, RB, South Carolina

Frank Clark, DE, Michigan

 

Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado St

Robert Meyers, OG, Tennessee St

Laurence Gibson, OT, Virginia Tech

 

Crunching this down, the front office is certainly looking to spend an early pick on WR. Some of these guys are going to be out of reach in the first round, but other might hang around until the 2nd or 3rd or so. Lots of teams took WR early last year and would be hesitant to do so again. We need to. The ability to return kicks would be a huge bonus.

 

The front office is diligently kicking the tires on acquiring DLine help. Schneider said he expects Kevin Williams back. I could see going DE or DT in the mid rounds.

 

And a bunch of flyers on OT and OG in the late rounds are almost guaranteed.

 

There may be RB taken this year to replace Girl's Name and look to replace Lynch in a couple of years.

 

With Jeron Johnson gone, we'll need a safety.

[Kopy 570]

We resigned frenchie at center. Looks like he'll back up Patrick Lewis.

[phillybear 366]

So, how does 3 road games to start the season sound like?

 

Sounds like another NFL screw job.

[Marshall 98]

Here we go - Seahawks 2015 schedule:

 

http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2015/REG/SEAHAWKS

 

Bonus points for a Week 9 BYE : )

[Groundhog 24]

So a mostly good schedule, with one glaring exception: we get three games where the opponent had an extra week of rest.

 

Week 6 - CAROLINA (wk5 bye)

Week 11 - SAN FRAN (wk10 bye)

Week 12 - PITTSBURGH (wk11 bye)

 

Granted, all three are home games, but these games just rose in difficulty. Our opponents in those games will be able to study our tape for an extra week and have an extra week to get healthy. That's a pretty significant advantage. The fact that one of them is with a divisional opponent makes it even worse. I haven't figured this issue out for the other 31 teams, but 3 games out of 16 seems like a lot to me. Incidentally, our Wk10 opponent, right after our bye? It's the Cardinals, who were also off in wk9.

[Hawkfin 32]

For a very diffucult schedual, I really like the bye week and then the 2nd half part of the schedual.

 

The first 8 games are pretty brutal though. Although if we can get 2-0, then we have some wiggle room with 2 home games after that.
Although that at GB game will be hard to claim a win.

 

The extra week of rest thing sucks.

 

My prediction:

at Rams = W (could be tough, but I'm glad it's early)

at GB = L

Chicago = W

Detroit = W

at Cinn = L

Carolina = W

at 49ers = W

at Dallas = L

Bye (If we are 5-3 or better here I'd be pretty happy, but 4-4 could be the case)

Needed bye for sure.

 

Cards = W

49ers = W

Pitts = L (home loss, but we could roll on just as easy)

at Vikes = W

at Balt = W (This could be a loss)

Browns = W

Rams = W (We seem to struggle, but this is home)

at Arizona = L

 

11-5 record. I could see 10-6 if we lose to Balt. (Or Rams like we usually do)

That last game at Arizona could decide the division. Hope not since it's on the road.

[phillybear 366]

I'm completed my draft board, with tweaking still to come.

 

In addition, I've set up a side project this year. I'm trying to apply a Seattle filter to draftable players. The emerging recent pattern has been the fron office's preference to draft players with exceptional athleticism, irregardless of whether they are a finished project. They believe they can mold players with the coaching staff. The last two years haven't worked so well, Anyway, I've taken the players that are draftable this year, or on the cusp of being drafted, lined them up with their freak skills, and assigned and approximate round value of where they may be taken, pending runs on positions.

 

In other words, I expect these players to be on the Seahawks Big Board and most of the draft selections will come from this pool.

[phillybear 366]

Offensive Players

 

Center

Shaq Mason (C/OG), Georgia Tech, 7^th round

Cameron Erving (C/OT), Florida St 1^st round

Hroniss Grasu, Oregon, 4^th round

 

Offensive Guard

Ali Marpet, Hobart, 3^rd round

Mark Glowinski, West Virginia, 6^th round

Laken Tomlinson, Duke, 3^rd round

Jarvis Harrison, Texas A&M, 4^th round

Jamon Brown (OG/OT), Louisville, 7^th round

 

Offensive Tackle

Jake Fisher, Oregon, 2^nd round

Brandon Scherff, Iowa, 1^st round

Laurence Gibson, Virginia Tech, 7^th round

Donovan Smith, Penn St, 2^nd round

Mitch Morse, Missouri, 6^th round

TJ Clemmings, Pittsburgh, 1^st round

Terry Poole San Diego St, 7^th round

Andrus Peat, Stanford, 1^st round

Sean Hickey, Syracuse, 5^th round

Corey Robinson South Carolina, 5^th round

 

Quarter Back

Marcus Mariota, Oregon, 1^st round

Brett Hundley, UCLA, 2^nd round

Cody Fajardo, Nevada, 6^th round

Bryce Petty, Baylor, 2^nd round

Bryan Bennett, Southeastern Louisiana, UDFA

Garrett Grayson, Colorado St, 3^rd round

Blake Sims, Alabama, 7^th round

 

Running back

Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska, 3^rd round

David Johnson, Northern Iowa, 3^rd round

Jay Ajayi, Boise St, 3^rd round

Mel Gordon, Wisconsin, 1^st round

Malcolm Brown, Texas, 5^th round

John Crockett, North Dakota St, 7th

Tevin Coleman, Indiana, 2^nd round

TJ Yeldon, Alabama, 4^th round

Todd Gurley, Georgia, 1^st round

 

Tight End

Mycole Pruitt, Southern Illinois, 5^th round

Jesse James, Penn State, 3^rd round

Jeff Heuerman, Ohio St, 4^th round

 

Wide Receiver

Chris Conley, Georgia, 6^th round

Sammie Coates, Auburn, 2^nd round

Breshad Perriman, Central Florida, 1^st round

Kenny Bell, Nebraska, 6^th round

Phillip Dorsett, Miami Florida, 2^nd round

Kevin White, West Virginia, 1^st round

Rannell Hall, Central Florida, 7^th round

Tre McBride, William & Mary, 3^rd round

Ty Montgomery, Stanford, 3^rd round

Davaris Daniels, Notre Dame, 6^th round

Darren Waller, Georgia Tech, 5^th round

Jaelen Strong, Arizona St, 1^st round

Devante Parker, Louisville, 1^st round

Amari Cooper, Alabama, 1^st round

Devin Funchess (WR/TE), Michigan, 2^nd round

Devin Smith, Ohio St, 2^nd round

Austin Hill, Arizona, 6^th round

Dezmin Lewis, Central Arkansas, 6^th round

DaRon Brown, Northern Illinois, 7^th round

Nelson Agholor, Southern California, 2^nd round

[phillybear 366]

Defensive Players

 

Corner back

Byron Jones, Connecticut, 1^st round

Eric Rowe (CB/FS), Utah, 2^nd round

Josh Shaw, Southern California, 3^rd round

Craig Mager, Texas St, 6^th round

Ronald Darby, Florida St, 5^th round

Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest, 1^st round

Bobby McCain, Memphis, 7^th round

PJ Williams, Florida St, 2^nd round

Justin Cox, Mississippi St, 4^th round

Justin Coleman, Tennessee, 7^th round

Trae Waynes, Michigan St, 1^st round

Doran Grant, Ohio St, 3^rd round

Alex Carter, Stanford, 3^rd round

DeShazor Everett, Texas A&M, 7^th round

Jalen Collins, LSU, 2^nd round

Julian Wilson, Oklahoma, 7^th round

Nick Marshall (CB/QB0, Auburn, 5^th round

D’Joun Smith, Florida Atlantic, 3^rd round

 

Defensive End

Bud Dupree, Kentucky, 1^st round

Owa Odighizuwa, UCLA, 2^nd round

Frank Clark, Michigan, 6^th round

Danielle Hunter, LSU, 2^nd round

Randy Gregory, Nebraska, 1^st round

Preston Smith, Mississippi St, 2^nd round

Henry Anderson, Stanford, 4^th round

Trey Flowers, Arkansas, 3^rd round

Tony Chickillo, Miami Florida, 5^th round

Kyle Emanuel, North Dakota St, 7^th round

 

Defensive Tackle

Grady Jarrett, Clemson, 4^th round

Xavier Cooper, Washington St, 3^rd round

Tyler Davison, Fresno St, 5^th round

Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Southern Mississippi, 6^th round

Chris Covington, Rice, 6^th round

Darius Philon, Arkansas, 5^th round

Angleo Blackson, Auburn, 6^th round

Arik Armstead (DT/DE), Oregon, 1^st round

Ellis McCarthy, UCLA, 6^th round

Michael Bennett, Ohio St, 2^nd round

Carl Davis, Iowa, 2^nd round

Marcus Hardison, Arizona St, 6^th round

Deon Simon, Northwestern St, 6^th round

Derrick Lott, Tennessee Chattanooga, 5^th round

Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma, 2^nd round

JT Surratt, South Carolina, 6^th round

 

Free Safety

Damarious Randall, Arizona St, 2^nd round

 

Strong Safety

Adrian Amos, Penn St, 5^th round

Jermaine Whitehead, Auburn, UDFA

 

Inside Line Backer

Stephone Anthony, Clemson, 2^nd round

Eric Kendricks, UCLA, 2^nd round

Ben Heeney, Kansas, 6^th round

Benardrick McKinney (ILB/OLB), Mississippi St, 2^nd round

Bryce Hager, Baylor, 6^th round

 

Outside Line Backer

Davis Tull, Tennessee Chattanooga, 6^th round

Vic Beasley, Clemson, 1^st round

Jordan Hicks, Texas, 5^th round

Eli Harold, Virginia, 2^nd round

Kwon Alexander, LSU, 4^th round

Alani Fua, BYU, 7^th round

Geneo Grissom, Oklahoma, 4^th round

Jake Ryan, Michigan, 5^th round

Ed Robinson, Newberry, 5^th round

[Groundhog 24]

Ok here's my 7-round mock draft for the Hawks, assuming no trades are made, and assuming that these guys are within shouting distance of each pick.

 

2.63 Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State. Fast, fast, fast. Immediate deep threat, something we lack. Good hands.

3.95 Grady Jarrett, DT, Clemson - big disruptive force on D-line; possible replacement for Mebane (who we may lose in trying to find cap space for Russ).

4.112 Andy Gallik, C, Boston College. Unger's replacement.

4.130 David Johnson, RB, Northern Iowa. Maybe he lights a fire under C-Mike, or, possible replacement for Turbin if we lose him in 2016.

4.134 Lynden Trail, OLB, Norfolk State. We don't have great depth at weakside LB behind Irvin.

5.167 Mitch Morse, G/T, Missouri. Former teammate of Justin Britt. Can step in for Carpenter this year.

5.170 Kenny Bell, WR, Nebraska. Fast and good blocking WR.

6.181 Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami. Big frame, just the way PC likes them.
6.209 John Lowdermilk, SS, Iowa. Backup for Kam after we lost Jeron Johnson in the offseason.

6.214 Laurence Gibson, OT, Virginia Tech. Possible LT replacement next year if we let Okung walk.

7.248 Julian Wilson, CB, Oklahoma. Possible project at CB, let Petey coach him up.

[Kopy 570]

I don't care who we draft at wr, as long as they can return punts and kicks. Outside of a couple percy harvin returns, we havn't had a legitimate return game since leon washington left.

[worm 36]

I know the WR class is deep, but do any of you see them using some mid-round picks to trade up and make sure they get who they want? If they came away with one of Agholor/Perriman/Dorsett/Strong (if he falls) that would be scary.

[phillybear 366]

I know the WR class is deep, but do any of you see them using some mid-round picks to trade up and make sure they get who they want? If they came away with one of Agholor/Perriman/Dorsett/Strong (if he falls) that would be scary.

 

Since John Schneider has 11 picks in his pocket this week, I don't think there is a same need to trade down this year, as that urgency was present last year with 6 or 7 picks (can't remember exactly) available going into the draft. The Seahawks always trade down or stand pat. It's very rare they trade up because they feel they can find good players late in the draft and don't want to part with draft capital, ever. The past 5 years, Seattle has traded down in the first round, traded down in the first round, traded a first round pick in the Harvin deal, traded out of the first round completely, traded a first round pick for Jimmy Graham. In this regime's first draft, they stayed put and took Russell Okung and Earl Thomas. The pattern is that Seattle has never moved up in the first round with this front office. Nothing would surprise me at this point with this team, but I wouldn't think it was likely. I think they sit back and wait. They could move up a bit in the 2nd round, if they feel strongly about anyone. I think Sammie Coates would be a terrific pick, but he might be gone by the mid 2nd round.

[Groundhog 24]

 

Nothing would surprise me at this point with this team, but I wouldn't think it was likely. I think they sit back and wait. They could move up a bit in the 2nd round, if they feel strongly about anyone. I think Sammie Coates would be a terrific pick, but he might be gone by the mid 2nd round.

 

I do think there's a very good chance they try to move up. Mid-second round could see a lot of WR talent going off the board. I don't think they have enough of a draft war chest to trade back into the 1st round, but moving up 8-12 spots in the second round? Sure.

 

You may find that you are less apoplectic this year than in past years. With so many picks, they may not feel the need to 'reach' for a guy on the premise that he won't be there two rounds later.

[phillybear 366]

 

I do think there's a very good chance they try to move up. Mid-second round could see a lot of WR talent going off the board. I don't think they have enough of a draft war chest to trade back into the 1st round, but moving up 8-12 spots in the second round? Sure.

 

You may find that you are less apoplectic this year than in past years. With so many picks, they may not feel the need to 'reach' for a guy on the premise that he won't be there two rounds later.

 

Unless Jimmy Graham loses a leg in a combine accident, this year's draft is a success just based on the trade. There are pretty much zero impact TEs in the draft this year, and since Zach Miller can't pass a physical, TE was such a huge need. They immediately recognized how weak the TE class was and made the prudent move.

 

What's a draft without me going apoplectic over early round picks? It's just normal. At least with zero picks on the first day, my expectations aren't as high, so the inner rage at blowing another high pick may be a bit sated. I'm trying to keep an open mind. Before I devolve into a drinking haze and start kicking a wall, estimating that will be 5 minutes into the first overall pick on Thursday.

[Hawkfin 32]

I'm not sure why all this talk about WR's?

 

I don't see us going WR with the 2nd rounder at all, let alone moving up which we never do. I see neither of those things happening at all.

I think it's nice to talk WR (for more firepower) but clearly we need to improve BOTH lines. And our CB could be a real problem this year too.

 

The whole Graham thing was so we don't have to go WR. Probably more two TE sets also. We are clearly happy with Baldwin and Kearse. We still have potential with the two rookies from last year, and we have our tall cat for size potential who did fantastic in the SB. Kearse is dam good deep threat IMO, and should do that more often. I could see Richardson becoming more of a deep threat also.

Graham gives us our #1 WR option though.

 

We don't need to go WR, and I don't see that we will until very late. And probably a kick returner type if anything, which would be more my hope.

 

Pretty sure they will go Oline and they should. If not, I'd say Corner or Dline next in line. The WR's to me take a big back seat.

 

I understand they brought in lots of WR's, but that could be for their 3rd or later picks OR to shore up their board.

 

I won't be surprised if we trade down again actually. That's just how we do it. Then a small trade back up for a certain guy in say the 4th round or whatever.

[phillybear 366]

I'm not sure why all this talk about WR's?

 

I don't see us going WR with the 2nd rounder at all, let alone moving up which we never do. I see neither of those things happening at all.

I think it's nice to talk WR (for more firepower) but clearly we need to improve BOTH lines. And our CB could be a real problem this year too.

 

The whole Graham thing was so we don't have to go WR. Probably more two TE sets also. We are clearly happy with Baldwin and Kearse. We still have potential with the two rookies from last year, and we have our tall cat for size potential who did fantastic in the SB. Kearse is dam good deep threat IMO, and should do that more often. I could see Richardson becoming more of a deep threat also.

Graham gives us our #1 WR option though.

 

We don't need to go WR, and I don't see that we will until very late. And probably a kick returner type if anything, which would be more my hope.

 

Pretty sure they will go Oline and they should. If not, I'd say Corner or Dline next in line. The WR's to me take a big back seat.

 

I understand they brought in lots of WR's, but that could be for their 3rd or later picks OR to shore up their board.

 

I won't be surprised if we trade down again actually. That's just how we do it. Then a small trade back up for a certain guy in say the 4th round or whatever.

 

If Schneider doesn't take a WR in the 2nd or 3rd, there is zero point in taking one at all because of the severe drop off, especially after the 2nd. The rookie WRs did not play well last year and we don't know if Richardson will ever get healthy from his injury. I doubt Norwood makes the team. Chris Matthews was awesome in the Superbowl, but we kind of caught NE by surprise with that decision to play him out of the blue. We need a deep threat WR. Richardson's longest reception last year I believe was for 11 yards. I like Sammie Coates for his big play ability down the field and his superior run blocking. His hands may need some work as he has some mystifying drops to go along with great catches. Huge upside. He is what Paul Richardson was supposedly going to do last year.

 

I like the idea of going defensive line early. I think there is zero chance we draft an offensive lineman until the later rounds. Every early pick of an OL has resulted in less than stellar results, and they know it. Okung is good whenever he is healthy, which is rare. Carpenter, bust. Moffitt, bust. Britt, well, he was our worst starter last year. If we take an OL in the 2nd or 3rd round, I'll take a sh!t in a hat and wear it.

[Groundhog 24]

The talk about WRs in the 2nd rd is because that's the sweet spot for value. For the offensive line, if you miss out on the top guys in the 1st round, may as well wait until the 4th round or later. There may well be some D-line guys who slide into the 50s, which would create an interesting discussion for PC and JS. Especially with Mebane coming off injury, negligible dead money and big cap savings if we release him. Those cap savings might help on an extension for RW3.

 

Kearse made one of the biggest plays in the super bowl, obviously, but he also made the key rally-killer earlier on. Dropped that pass down the left sideline on a 3rd and 3, midway through 3rd quarter. If he catches that, we probably get at least a FG, and might even have made it a three-score lead. Right. In. His. Hands. I don't think his hands are as good as Baldwin's, except for the acrobatic and most pressure-filled ones of course.

[Hawkfin 32]

First, let me say I do like Sammie Coats. That would be a real nice pick.

 

But, I'm not sure I agree that we know much of anything about our rookie WR's from last year? We hardly even used them. We never threw them to the wolves like a lot of other WR's were asked to do, and that your comparing too. Most of those guy's were also high first round picks/talents.

(i.e. What did Marqise Lee do? Nothing more then Richardson)

Your comparing the cream of the crop to Richardson. Not real fair.

 

Richardson was also coming into his own a little bit at the end when we did actually start to use him more. I'm sure he'll get over his injury. Norwood made some plays on his limited use. I personally want to see more of our big WR too. Sure, he took NE by surprise but they could not stop him until big powerful Browner took him. He was a tall force that they could not really stop very well. He was also limited all year until then. We did a lousy job of getting our WR's involved. These guy's all can improve in year #2 and the hope is that they will. (Or more busts in the draft)

 

That being said, you really want to tie up MORE draft capital on WR?. Sounds like the same theory that you harped on for Oline. Keep drafting them and they keep sucking. Might be the same trend as our Oline, and instead we will now keep waisting picks at WR.

NOTE: What we really need to do is quit sucking early in the draft no matter who the pick is!

 

All those Oline that we picked were reaches. We still have not fixed that possition and lost more Oline on top of it. We need to scout better and pick a starter worthy guy. I'm sure the talent will be there just like WR. I'm sure a CB or Dline will have talent too. If we wait on Oline, then we might not even fill our biggest issue? That's my concern.

If you keep pushing them down and say they are not worth it, you will eventually never land anybody worth a dam.

 

To me the WR's are just talked about more then any other position (less QB) The more talk, the more hype. Pretty soon they are all considered deep and can't miss prospects. I don't buy into that. There is talent across the board. You just need to do your homework.

These TV dudes, etc. just hype on the WR's. It's a fun postion to talk about. F.F., scoring, etc.

 

I probably agree there is a drop off after round 2 at WR, so maybe it would be smart to go that route, but I'm not sure this helps our team which is my bottom line.

 

I want an impact starter that comes right in and plays for us. I doubt any rookie WR will replace Baldwin or Kearse in the lineup, and Graham will be a new target moster for us or he'd be a waisted move. We need help at the lines! Find the stud that we need in the area of need. They will be out there. The longer you wait, the less chance it will happen.

 

Maybe we don't go WR if we pass after 2 or 3. I'm fine with that. But, like I said we should go after a WR that has some potential, while giving us a needed kick returner. I'm sure a guy like that can be found late.

 

I think Kearse is a real good deep threat personally. I think he goes up for jump balls great, which is what you want. His speed is decent. Adding Graham might really allow for Kearse to get open more or get deep. Baldwin too. They both had WAY to much pressure on them. Graham solves these issues I think.

 

Sammie Coats would be a good pick though. Even Beckham might be interesting. I'm rooting for a different direction myself now that we got Jimmy.

[phillybear 366]

A final update to my previous post, these are players I expect that the Seahawks would be interested, along with their perceived round value. Not that I necessarily agree with the list of players. Just making an educated guess at what the front office may be looking at. You could probably disregard 1st round players, unless some bizarre trade happens.

 

Offense

 

Offensive Line

Nick Easton (C ), Harvard, UDFA

Ali Marpet (OG/OT), Hobart, 3^rd round

Mark Glowinski (OG), West Virginia, 6^th round

AJ Cann (OG), South Carolina, 2^nd round

Donovan Smith (OT), Penn St, 2^nd round

Jake Fisher, Oregon (OT), 2^nd round

Brandon Scherff (OT), Iowa, 1^st round

Laurence Gibson (OT), Virginia Tech, 5^th round

Mitch Morse (OG/OT), Missouri, 5^th round

Laken Tomlinson (OG), Duke, 2nd round

Shaquille Mason (C/OG), Georgia Tech, 6^th round

Jarvis Harrison (OG), Texas A&M, 3rd round

Jamon Brown (OG/OT), Louisville, 7^th round

Cameron Erving (C/OT), Florida St 1^st round

Hroniss Grasu (C ), Oregon, 4^th round

Chad Hamilton (C ), Coastal Carolina, UDFA

 

Quarter Back

Marcus Mariota, Oregon, 1^st round

Brett Hundley, UCLA, 3rd round

Cody Fajardo, Nevada, 7^th round

Bryce Petty, Baylor, 2^nd round

Taylor Kelly, Arizona St, UDFA

Bryan Bennett, Southeastern Louisiana, 7th

Garrett Grayson, Colorado St, 3^rd round

 

Running back

Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska, 2^nd round

David Johnson, Northern Iowa, 3^rd round

Malcolm Agnew, Southern Illinois, 7^th round

Corey Grant, Auburn, UDFA

Zach Zenner (FB), South Dakota St, 6^th round

Akeem Hunt, Purdue, UDFA

 

Tight End

None

 

Wide Receiver

Chris Conley, Georgia, 3^rd round

Sammie Coates, Auburn, 2^nd round

Breshad Perriman, Central Florida, 1^st round

Kenny Bell, Nebraska, 6^th round

Phillip Dorsett, Miami Florida, 2^nd round

Kevin White, West Virginia, 1^st round

Rannell Hall, Central Florida, 7^th round

Tre McBride, William & Mary, 3^rd round

Ty Montgomery, Stanford, 4^th round

Geremy Davis, Connecticut, UDFA

Davaris Daniels, Notre Dame, UDFA

Darren Waller, Georgia Tech, 6^th round

Jaelen Strong, Arizona St, 1^st round

Devante Parker, Louisville, 1^st round

Devin Funchess (WR/TE), Michigan, 3^rd round

 

Defense

 

Corner back

Byron Jones, Connecticut, 1^st round

Darryl Roberts, Marshall, UDFA

Eric Rowe (CB/FS), Utah, 2^nd round

Josh Shaw, Southern California, 3^rd round

Craig Mager, Texas St, 5^th round

Ronald Darby, Florida St, 2^nd round

Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest, 1^st round

Justin Cox (CB/FS), Mississippi St, 6^th round

Bobby McCain, Memphis, 5^th round

PJ Williams, Florida St, 2^nd round

Justin Coleman, Tennessee, 6^th round

 

Safety

Adrian Amos, Penn St, 5^th round

Cedric Thompson, Minnesota, 7^th round

 

Defensive End

Brian Mihalek, Boston College, UDFA

Owa Odighizuwa, UCLA, 2^nd round

Frank Clark, Michigan, 4^th round

Danielle Hunter, LSU, 2^nd round

David Irving, Iowa, UDFA

Shaquielle Riddick, West Virginia, 4^th round

Preston Smith, Mississippi St, 2^nd round

Henry Anderson, Stanford, 3^rd round

Trey Flowers, Arkansas, 3^rd round

 

Defensive Tackle

Grady Jarrett, Clemson, 2^nd round

Xavier Cooper, Washington St, 3^rd round

Tory Slater, West Georgia, UDFA

Tyler Davison, Fresno St, 4^th round

Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Southern Mississippi, 6^th round

Darius Philon, Arkansas, 5^th round

Christian Covington, Rice, 4^th round

David Parry (NT), Stanford, UDFA

 

Inside Line Backer

Stephone Anthony, Clemson, 2^nd round

Eric Kendricks, UCLA, 2^nd round

Ben Heeney, Kansas, 5^th round

Benardrick McKinney (ILB/OLB), Mississippi St, 2^nd round

 

Outside Line Backer

Davis Tull, Tennessee Chattanooga, 4^th round

Vic Beasley, Clemson, 1^st round

Bud Dupree, Kentucky, 1^st round

Randy Gregory, Nebraska, 1^st round

Jordan Hicks, Texas, 4^th round

Eli Harold, Virginia, 1^st round

Alani Fua, BYU, UDFA

Kwon Alexander, LSU, 4^th round

[Groundhog 24]

Chatter going around that Hawks will trade Bruce Irvin to the Falcons. They elected not to pick up his 5th year option at $7.6 million, so if untraded, he's a likely free agency casualty in 2016 and therefore a compensatory pick in 2017. Makes sense to move to Falcons since presumably Dan Quinn is running the same 4-3 hybrid defense that he ran in Seattle. I'm fine with moving Irvin because aside from a handful of sacks, I don't think he was all that effective as an edge pass rusher. It does mean we need some more speed at the edge from this draft though.

 

Compensation in trade is tricky. Just because he's not worth $7.6 million to Seattle doesn't mean he wouldn't be to another team. If someone lost a free agent in 2014 and he signed for $7.6 million, it would have been worth a 4th rd compensatory pick in 2015. My guess, Seattle could move him now for a 4th rd pick in 2016. We already have 11 picks so far, so I doubt PC and JS want to add a 12th, especially if he would be a mid-rounder.

[phillybear 366]

It sure seems like those compensation picks are going to be important for many years to come. It's the Belichick plan. Look at all the comp picks the Patriots are going to get next season, losing guys like Revis, Browner, Wilfork, etc. By design. We lost Clemmons, Bryant, Tate, Giacomini, Browner, Thurmond, among others, last year, went to the Superbowl, and picked up 4 extra picks. On the other hand, we lost depth.

 

I'd rather keep Irvin for this year and accept whatever pick we get in compensation. You aren't going to get the 1st or 2nd round pick from Atlanta. A 4th isn't enough for a starter on a Superbowl contending team. Who do you plug into his spot? Malcolm Smith is on the Raiders. I'm not sure if we have anybody on the roster that could play that spot without a downgrade on the overall defense. I don't know if Pierre-Louis is ready. Is a 3rd rounder worth it? A 4th? Irvin might be the worst starter on the defense, but he's a starter on the best defense in the league.

[phillybear 366]

Let's try a mock draft this year.

 

2.31 (#63) Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke

3.31 (#95) Xavier Cooper, DT, Washington St

4.13 (#112) Tre Jackson, OG, Texas A&M

4.31 (#130) Frank Clark, DE, Michigan

4.35 (#134) Kwon Alexander, OLB, LSU

5.31 (#167) Laurence Gibson, OT, Virginia Tech

5.34 (#170) Dezmin Lewis, WR, Central Arkansas

6.5 (#180) Justin Coleman, CB, Tennessee

6.34 (#209) Mark Glowinski, OG, West Virginia

6.39 (#214) Chaz Green, OT, Florida

7.31 (#248) Cody Fajardo, QB, Nevada

[Hawkfin 32]

Let's try a mock draft this year.

 

2.31 (#63) Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke

3.31 (#95) Xavier Cooper, DT, Washington St

4.13 (#112) Tre Jackson, OG, Texas A&M

4.31 (#130) Frank Clark, DE, Michigan

4.35 (#134) Kwon Alexander, OLB, LSU

5.31 (#167) Laurence Gibson, OT, Virginia Tech

5.34 (#170) Dezmin Lewis, WR, Central Arkansas

6.5 (#180) Justin Coleman, CB, Tennessee

6.34 (#209) Mark Glowinski, OG, West Virginia

6.39 (#214) Chaz Green, OT, Florida

7.31 (#248) Cody Fajardo, QB, Nevada

I don't know much about the names yet, but I love the position choices. Five Oline would be sweet and my goal for this team. Plus a DT & DE pretty early.

CB, WR, LB all would be my next choices as well.

 

The position choices made big time sense to me. I'm affraid I have no comment on the players though. I'm pretty much waiting to see what we pick this year, and then do research after the fact. No time for research.

(Although I might list my fav. Oline I did happen to review later today - List at home)

 

 

As far as Irvin - I don't care regardless really. Keep him for 1 year, trade him for a 3rd, or get Comp pick later is fine too. He's a bone head that causes problems, and not a real big loss anyway. I knew he would be gone eventually, and just a matter of time. We could do better with a real LB or real DE. And I actually like Wagner on the blitz anyway. Glad they did not pick up the option!

 

I DO think Pierre-Lewis is ready. Although we would lack depth without Irvin. This would bump up the need for a LB and/or DE in the draft.

 

I'm all for getting a 3rd or something for Irvin though. Might as well get what you can now instead of end of the draft comp picks that most likely would be a 4th or worse.

Funny how both Irvin and Bennett are making news about trades since Graham trade. Better get with the program and team concept or your out. (See Harvin)

[Fantasy Noob 10]

I know Phillybear will roll over in his grave but I do believe we need O-line early and often.

 

The Seahawks are widely viewed as a defense, run first team but the physical style of play on both sides of the ball gets glossed over due to the dominance of our secondary. This team is just plain nasty to play against on both sides of the ball, they beat people up. I wish I could find it but teams post something like a .250 win percentage the week after facing the Seahawks. Opponenets are just physically exhausted. Also a great betting tip.

 

I think this comes down to dominating through the trenches. Even though our O-line takes a lot of heat for sucking in pass protection (rightfully so) being able to run block lets those big lineman lean on and punish the opposing team. And we keep losing and missing on those picks. I think we have to add several more players that can compete for and eventually take over new positions sooner rather than later. Hence the argument to spend earlier picks on more finished products.

 

Also a hidden benefit of the Jimmy Graham trade was to let us see what we have at WR with Richardson, Kearse and Mathews. The rise and number of 3/4 WR offenses in college and year round 7 on 7 drills means there are going to be more and more talented and polished WR's coming out in the years to come. No need to rush a pick at this position just yet.

 

Total aside but any of you guys ever hear of SPARQ scores? Apparently this is a metric Pete Carroll helped invent with Nike evaluating athletes and is used in our draft room. Just read an article that mentioned it but couldn't find much about it and was intrigued.

[phillybear 366]

All things considered, and despite the mock draft I posted, I still would like to see Seattle draft Sammie Coates in the 2nd round. They probably would have to move up about a dozen spots to grab him as I just don't think he lasts until the Seahawks pick at (#63). Since we won't pick tonight (99.9% assured), I'll enjoy the pagentry and get more involved tomorrow.

[phillybear 366]

My mock draft is a fail since Detroit snagged Laken Tomlinson much earlier than I expected him to go, but he's a good player, so what can you do?

 

I'd like Seattle to take the best player available in the 2nd, but what position that might be is hard to say right now. It's so tempting to look at WRs like Devin Smith and Sammie Coates and wonder if Seattle might pull off a surprise and move up to get an impact player. Baldwin is a #2 and Kearse is a #4. We really need a #1 WR. Last year we saw the greatest WR class ever. We took 2 WR, and they did nothing. It's like being a bear that shows up at a stream teeming with salmons, and all you end up with are two rocks. I think Green-Beckham and Strong go off the board early, and I don't really like Green-Beckham. So...any chance we trade draft capital to move up to snag a WR? We're on schedule to take 11 guys in the draft. How many can possibly make the team anyway?

 

I'm just rambling.

[Groundhog 24]

Last year we saw the greatest WR class ever. We took 2 WR, and they did nothing. It's like being a bear that shows up at a stream teeming with salmons, and all you end up with are two rocks.

 

Classic. POTY leader in the clubhouse.

The problem with trading up from 63 is that the 40s are littered with teams still needing WR help who did not address this position in rd1:

 

St. Louis picks at #41

Cleveland picks at #43

Minnesota picks at #45

San Francisco picks at #46

Kansas City picks at #49

 

To leapfrog these teams into the high 30s is going to take a lot of draft picks. I would think probably two of the three 4th rd picks, and possibly another lower-round pick. And then you're setting yourself up for over-drafting in rd3 because you just decimated your middle round picks. Maybe we'll get lucky and a guy like Devin Smith will still be around. I don't expect DGB to make it into the 50s much less the 60s, even with the character issues. So my sense is that we just stay put, but probably go D-line instead of WR because the value won't be there.

[phillybear 366]

 

Classic. POTY leader in the clubhouse.

The problem with trading up from 63 is that the 40s are littered with teams still needing WR help who did not address this position in rd1:

 

St. Louis picks at #41

Cleveland picks at #43

Minnesota picks at #45

San Francisco picks at #46

Kansas City picks at #49

 

To leapfrog these teams into the high 30s is going to take a lot of draft picks. I would think probably two of the three 4th rd picks, and possibly another lower-round pick. And then you're setting yourself up for over-drafting in rd3 because you just decimated your middle round picks. Maybe we'll get lucky and a guy like Devin Smith will still be around. I don't expect DGB to make it into the 50s much less the 60s, even with the character issues. So my sense is that we just stay put, but probably go D-line instead of WR because the value won't be there.

 

I'm struggling to remain optimistic, and then I remember that we stole Jimmy Graham from the Saints. And I feel better.

 

Won't last.

[phillybear 366]

Total aside but any of you guys ever hear of SPARQ scores? Apparently this is a metric Pete Carroll helped invent with Nike evaluating athletes and is used in our draft room. Just read an article that mentioned it but couldn't find much about it and was intrigued.

Yes, I used those rankings as a factor in trying to figure out what the front office might be targetting. Dan Quinn of the Falcons seemed to subscribe as he selected a highly ranked OLB Sparq with their pick.

[phillybear 366]

The picks made that I didn't feel were 1st round worthy yesterday...

 

Nelson Algohor, WR, USC, Philadelphia

Cedric Obuehi, OT, Texas A&m (3rd round value), Cincinnati

Shaq Thompson, OLB, Washington

Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke, Detroit

Damarious Randall, FS, Arizona St, Green Bay

Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson, New Orleans

 

Note that San Fran, Arizona, and St Louis do not appear on this list.

[Hawkfin 32]

Finally found my Oline list......

 

I looked back at your Mock Phillybear and I LOVE it.

 

My 2 top guy's were in fact:

Tre Jackson & Tomlinson - I have both rated as a 1st round draft grades. I also really like Arie Kouandijio, AJ Cann, and Jamil Douglas.

 

My list: (Mixed together)

1. B. Scheriff

2. E. Flowers

3. A. Peat

4. DJ Humphries

5. Tre Jackson

6. Laken Tomlinson

7. Cameron Erving

(First round grades above)

 

8. Arie Kouandijio

9. AJ Cann

10. Donovan Smith

11. Jamil Douglas

12. Jake Fisher

13. TJ Clemmings

14. La'el Collins

(2nd round grades above)

 

15. Jarvis Harrison

16. Mitch Morse

17. Josue Matias

18. Trent Brown

19. Tyrus Thompson

20. Ali Marpet

(3rd plus rounds above)

 

Green-Beckham and Sammie Coates are BOTH very interesting. I probably wouldn't pass on either of those two.

I think DE/DT is also pretty important position. (J. Strong/WR too)

 

Enjoy

[phillybear 366]

As the Seahawks pick in the 2nd slowly moves downward, there is a fock load of good players left on the board. I'm getting a warm feeling in my pants.

[phillybear 366]

Sure, a bunch of players are available that are 2nd round grade. With around 8 picks to go, these are the players with 1st round grades...

 

Randy Gregory, OLB, Nebraska

La'el Collins, OT/OG, LSU

Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona St
Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia

Edit: Sammie Coates still on the board.

[phillybear 366]

Based on what's available right now in the 2nd as we are almost ready to pick, I'm predicting we take a defensive lineman.

[phillybear 366]

I mocked Frank Clark to the Seahawks, at the end of the 4th round. Seattle doing the Seahawky thing, taking a guy 2 rounds too early.

 

Fock you, John Schneider. Dumb ass.

 

Drinking is now going to get drunken. Fock.

[phillybear 366]

Based on what's available right now in the 2nd as we are almost ready to pick, I'm predicting we take a defensive lineman.

 

D'uh.

 

I'm currently thrusting a fork into my foot. It kind of hurts. Not as much as the pick.

[phillybear 366]

Just traded up to 3.5

[phillybear 366]

Sammie Coates?

The waiting is killing me.