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Patriots trade Jamie Collins to Browns

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They could have at least got them to throw in Gordon. This one doesn't make much sense.

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They could have at least got them to throw in Gordon. This one doesn't make much sense.

I don't think Kraft wants to take on any more reclamation projects after Hernandez obviously, but even most recently Dom Easley.

 

I don't see the benefit for them with the way the offense is already moving.

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I don't think Kraft wants to take on any more reclamation projects after Hernandez obviously, but even most recently Dom Easley.

 

I don't see the benefit for them with the way the offense is already moving.

Collins was a "reclamation" project comparable to Hernandez? I would like to know what you have for info on Collins

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Collins was a "reclamation" project comparable to Hernandez? I would like to know what you have for info on Collins

The Collins pick was made in the 2013 draft before Hernandez was arrested in June, 2013. They previously were more open to reclamation projects prior to Hernandez, so what you're saying is not really applicable to the point I'm trying to make right now.

That Hernandez process drained Kraft though, so I don't think he's as eager to bring in someone like Gordon with all that new baggage.

 

That's all I meant.

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Didn't think teams could trade "Compensatory Draft Picks" ??

 

 

This is the first year that you can trade them. They changed the rule and I think that is a good thing.

 

It is essentially what the Patriots would have gotten if they let Collins walk at the end of the season (best case). However, they get the pick in '17 instead of in '18.

 

Word is that Collins was not taking the negotiations well and it was affecting his performance on the field (going off script, freelancing) and in the locker room (talking to other players, bad mouthing management). If so, that is a good way to get sent to Siberia (Cleveland).

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The Collins pick was made in the 2013 draft before Hernandez was arrested in June, 2013. They previously were more open to reclamation projects prior to Hernandez, so what you're saying is not really applicable to the point I'm trying to make right now.

That Hernandez process drained Kraft though, so I don't think he's as eager to bring in someone like Gordon with all that new baggage.

 

That's all I meant.

got your drift. Chandler Jones would be one with some "issues", though. His 2 brothers were no help for him.

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Collins owner here... From an IDP standpoint I'm assuming this is an upgrade for Collins? He is going to play more snaps in Cleveland, the Browns defense will be on the field a lot more than the Pats D and, since teams will spend the majority of the 3rd and 4th quarters running out the clock against the Browns, his opportunity for tackles will be greater.

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Collins owner here... From an IDP standpoint I'm assuming this is an upgrade for Collins? He is going to play more snaps in Cleveland, the Browns defense will be on the field a lot more than the Pats D and, since teams will spend the majority of the 3rd and 4th quarters running out the clock against the Browns, his opportunity for tackles will be greater.

I was going to drop him Wednesday. I still might because I don't see how this helps if he's coming in mid-season. I think there's better out there.

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