Voltaire 5,316 Posted August 1, 2021 The Hillsdale 1776 Curriculum | K-12 American Classical Education For those that don't want SJWs teaching their kids bullsh*t US history. It's free of charge and ready for download. As it stands now, this is only the Founding, the Civil War, and Civics, but they promise the rest in the next few months. This really came out at just the right time for me as my son just started his homeschooling last week. Right now, he's learning about neolithic human societies developing agriculture, so he has some time yet for them to complete the project. It's nice to know that it'll be there when he's ready to learn the US-related material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, Voltaire said: The Hillsdale 1776 Curriculum | K-12 American Classical Education For those that don't want SJWs teaching their kids bullsh*t US history. It's free of charge and ready for download. As it stands now, this is only the Founding, the Civil War, and Civics, but they promise the rest in the next few months. This really came out at just the right time for me as my son just started his homeschooling last week. Right now, he's learning about neolithic human societies developing agriculture, so he has some time yet for them to complete the project. It's nice to know that it'll be there when he's ready to learn the US-related material. That's gonna be hard for him, learning two very different versions of history at home and at school. And he may get in trouble repeating much of what he learns at home elsewhere. I mean even the maps will be different. Be careful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted August 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: That's gonna be hard for him, learning two very different versions of history at home and at school. And he may get in trouble repeating much of what he learns at home elsewhere. I mean even the maps will be different. Be careful. Not him. I've pulled him out of the Chinese school system entirely. Since my daughters are thriving in the Chinese school environment, we've decided to let it play out with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Voltaire said: Not him. I've pulled him out of the Chinese school system entirely. Since my daughters are thriving in the Chinese school environment, we've decided to let it play out with them. I didn't even know that was a thing here. Point still stands though. He has to know what the party line is so he at least appears to toe it. He sounds like the most American of the three no? Plans for him to maybe come back to the motherland one day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Isles 583 Posted August 1, 2021 TBBOM- what’s your family history as it pertains to the Civil War. I could be wrong but from what I remember was your family had deep roots in Tennessee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 1, 2021 42 minutes ago, Mike Isles said: TBBOM- what’s your family history as it pertains to the Civil War. I could be wrong but from what I remember was your family had deep roots in Tennessee My mother's family hails from Virginia. My great great great grandfather was in the 48th Virginia infantry. I was once a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. (I was 13. I wanted to do reenactments. I loved history and running around with a realish gun looked fun. When I realized all they do is put giant confederate flags everywhere I quit.) Before that, a distant relative on mom's side was one of Washington's Colonels. She was in the DAR. Mom's family ended up owning a large plantation outside Knoxville, in what is now the Farragut area. I've been to the family cemetery many years ago. My father's side is from west Tennessee. A relative on that side served in the confederate cavalry, probably under Forrest. So no political office for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,150 Posted August 1, 2021 Is this where they call slaves "visitors" or Travelers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted August 1, 2021 14 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: I didn't even know that was a thing here. Point still stands though. He has to know what the party line is so he at least appears to toe it. He sounds like the most American of the three no? Plans for him to maybe come back to the motherland one day? I don’t have “most” or “least” American kids. I have two kids that excel in the Chinese system, the eldest is at the top 5-8% of her class academically, excels socially, athletically, and is a student leader. Meanwhile, the youngest gets straight A’s. They like school and can handle the Chinese pressure cooker environment. Then there’s my son, the middle one, who got his ass kicked by the Chinese school and can’t write for sh1t. I got him a 70% scholarship into a fully accredited online US school based out of Kansas City where he’s tearing through the material 2-3 times faster than the recommended pace. He’s “getting straight A’s” but that’s not so impressive as it sounds. There’s massive grade inflation in the school. I don’t know how anyone gets less than straight A’s. First, I’m sitting right there, I could feed him all the right answers if I were inclined. I don’t. Instead, I watch passively and endure quiet meltdowns as I watch him enter the wrong answer, and then bring up whatever he got wrong afterwards. If he were to pull out a calculator, which he wouldn’t think to, I’d snatch it from him. Second, quizzes and tests aren’t timed and they’re all open notes. Third, he can re-take quizzes and tests and when he does, the old score *poof* disappears. The questions are all multiple choice rather then fill in the blank (besides math) and they are generated randomly from the same pool such that, frequently, you see the exact same questions repeated on the quizzes and tests when you re-take them. So, my son’s attitude is “Oh, I got an 84, fock that.” Well, in a regular school, he would have to eat that 84. Nope. Retake. 100. The 100 stays. And this is on an open note quiz mind you. He doesn’t look up the right answer the first time, he likes the challenge and would rather guess. But he is more cautious the second time. This can bite him in the ass. The focker got cocky because all his retakes always get him the same or better results. He got a 97 on a math test, wasn’t satisfied, re-took it, got a 90. He’s twelve and in grade seven. All his classes are Middle School or 9th grade level, except Language Arts. He pre-tested out at a third grade English level, so I enrolled him in 3rd Grade English. The plan with that is to do Grades 3, 4, 5 and 6 this year, 7 and 8 next year, an hopefully he’ll be caught up to 9th grade level entering 9th grade. I don’t know if it will work. We withdrew him out of the Chinese school because he can’t write for sh1t in Chinese and his grades were atrocious. Similarly, his lowest “straight A’s” grade is 3rd Grade Language Arts because he can’t write for sh1t in English either. What he writes takes three hours of staring at the wall until he finally finishes a paragraph, and then it comes back a 74. So I edit the fock out of it, have him totally overhaul it, tutor him until we both get frustrated, whatever, good enough, re-submit, 94. When it comes to math and writing, it’s either good or it isn’t. You can’t hide your dumbass-ery behind a multiple choice, open note, retaken test. By the time he finishes Grade Twelve, at the rate he plows through Math and Programming, he’s likely to complete AP Calculus AB, AP Calculus BC, and AP Statistics, as well as all the AP Computer Science classes. But holy hell, all the time and effort and frustration for both of us, just to get him to earn a halfway decent grade on a 3rd Grade paragraph… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted August 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said: Is this where they call slaves "visitors" or Travelers? https://www.hillsdale.edu/about/history/ No. This was one of the most hardcore, anti-slavery schools in the country. Hillsdale was the first American college to prohibit in its charter any discrimination based on race, religion, or sex, and became an early force for the abolition of slavery. At the time of the Civil War, 400 Hillsdale students, 80% of their male student body, volunteered to fight for the Union Army. That's a larger percentage than any other school in the North. Four of those Hillsdale students went on to earn Congressional Medals of Honor. In other words, fock off. Seriously. FOCK OFF. This is a Michigan school with the deepest pro-American, anti-slavery roots in the country. Maybe it offends you that a school still exists that promotes liberty, honor, and traditional American values and culture. Take your anti-American, pro-communist talking points somewhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Voltaire said: I don’t have “most” or “least” American kids. I have two kids that excel in the Chinese system, the eldest is at the top 5-8% of her class academically, excels socially, athletically, and is a student leader. Meanwhile, the youngest gets straight A’s. They like school and can handle the Chinese pressure cooker environment. Then there’s my son, the middle one, who got his ass kicked by the Chinese school and can’t write for sh1t. I got him a 70% scholarship into a fully accredited online US school based out of Kansas City where he’s tearing through the material 2-3 times faster than the recommended pace. He’s “getting straight A’s” but that’s not so impressive as it sounds. There’s massive grade inflation in the school. I don’t know how anyone gets less than straight A’s. First, I’m sitting right there, I could feed him all the right answers if I were inclined. I don’t. Instead, I watch passively and endure quiet meltdowns as I watch him enter the wrong answer, and then bring up whatever he got wrong afterwards. If he were to pull out a calculator, which he wouldn’t think to, I’d snatch it from him. Second, quizzes and tests aren’t timed and they’re all open notes. Third, he can re-take quizzes and tests and when he does, the old score *poof* disappears. The questions are all multiple choice rather then fill in the blank (besides math) and they are generated randomly from the same pool such that, frequently, you see the exact same questions repeated on the quizzes and tests when you re-take them. So, my son’s attitude is “Oh, I got an 84, fock that.” Well, in a regular school, he would have to eat that 84. Nope. Retake. 100. The 100 stays. And this is on an open note quiz mind you. He doesn’t look up the right answer the first time, he likes the challenge and would rather guess. But he is more cautious the second time. This can bite him in the ass. The focker got cocky because all his retakes always get him the same or better results. He got a 97 on a math test, wasn’t satisfied, re-took it, got a 90. He’s twelve and in grade seven. All his classes are Middle School or 9th grade level, except Language Arts. He pre-tested out at a third grade English level, so I enrolled him in 3rd Grade English. The plan with that is to do Grades 3, 4, 5 and 6 this year, 7 and 8 next year, an hopefully he’ll be caught up to 9th grade level entering 9th grade. I don’t know if it will work. We withdrew him out of the Chinese school because he can’t write for sh1t in Chinese and his grades were atrocious. Similarly, his lowest “straight A’s” grade is 3rd Grade Language Arts because he can’t write for sh1t in English either. What he writes takes three hours of staring at the wall until he finally finishes a paragraph, and then it comes back a 74. So I edit the fock out of it, have him totally overhaul it, tutor him until we both get frustrated, whatever, good enough, re-submit, 94. When it comes to math and writing, it’s either good or it isn’t. You can’t hide your dumbass-ery behind a multiple choice, open note, retaken test. By the time he finishes Grade Twelve, at the rate he plows through Math and Programming, he’s likely to complete AP Calculus AB, AP Calculus BC, and AP Statistics, as well as all the AP Computer Science classes. But holy hell, all the time and effort and frustration for both of us, just to get him to earn a halfway decent grade on a 3rd Grade paragraph… I apologize. I didn't mean to imply your girls weren't American. I know exactly what you mean. The system here is very hard for boys. As I'm sure you know, they tend to catch up in middle school, the ones who haven't been irreversibly left behind anyway. Good on you taking the initiative and finding a solution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites