jerryskids 7,198 Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Strike said: Those stats are cooked. Do you know how they determine when someone dies "from drunk driving?" No, I just grabbed the first number in my search. How do they do it? Is it like the Covid count? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,682 Posted November 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, jerryskids said: No, I just grabbed the first number in my search. How do they do it? Is it like the Covid count? Death from drunk driving related incidents is around 10 to 12k per year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,198 Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Death from drunk driving related incidents is around 10 to 12k per year. That's what my link said, but Strike said those numbers are cooked. I don't agree or disagree, I was just asking for more info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,034 Posted November 12, 2022 3 hours ago, jerryskids said: No, I just grabbed the first number in my search. How do they do it? Is it like the Covid count? You can't trust drunk driving statistics. And I'll preface my comments with I am not advocating for drunk driving, there are tragic deaths/accidents resulting from drunk driving, and I think it should be punished severely. However, whenever there's an accident one of the things they check for is alcohol. And it doesn't matter whether it had anything to do with the accident or whether it was the person who caused the accident that they determine to have been drinking. And if a cop thinks alcohol was present they mark that on the form and that accident becomes "alcohol related." So, say you're coming home from watching football at a bar and you've had a few beers. You may not even be drunk but you've had a few beers. You stop at a red light. Some kid who just got his driver's license runs in to you while you're stopped at the red light. Cops come. "Yes officer I had a couple of beers while watching the Bronco's game." Boom, now it's in the stats. So, I believe in punishing drunk driving severely, especially repeat drunk drivers, but I do not give credence to the stats trotted our regarding it. Don't let people like Sandra Jacobson continue to drive: https://www.denverpost.com/2010/06/04/centennial-woman-gets-maximum-36-years-for-drunken-crash-that-killed-two-librarians/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites