BuckSwope 654 Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: If we agree that guns don't cause the behavior that we want to prevent then we must also agree that banning guns won't prevent said behavior. In which case, gun bans are a non-starter for any serious discussion on violence prevention. You can cause as much death and destruction with a Street Sweeper as you can with an AR. So you want to ban both? Next up, the mini 14. Want to ban them too? How about the .30 carbine? Once that camel's nose is under the tent there's no going back and it would have detrimental effects on future generations and their freedoms in this country. What's also a real discussion non-starter is the bolded. 0 chance you believe it. We can disagree on the reasons, and still agree a gun ban isn't going to happen and isn't even a good starting point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,845 Posted June 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: What's also a real discussion non-starter is the bolded. 0 chance you believe it. We can disagree on the reasons, and still agree a gun ban isn't going to happen and isn't even a good starting point. I absolutely believe I can walk into a classroom with a drum fed, semi-auto, 12 Gauge shotgun and slaughter as many children as you could with an AR in the same amount of time. Please tell me why you think I'm wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, 5-Points said: I absolutely believe I can walk into a classroom with a drum fed, semi-auto, 12 Gauge shotgun and slaughter as many children as you could with an AR in the same amount of time. Please tell me why you think I'm wrong. Yeah, that is not remotely what you said and what I bolded and you know it. Come on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,845 Posted June 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: Yeah, that is not remotely what you said and what I bolded and you know it. Come on. OK, my bad. A drum-fed, semi-auto, 12 gauge, shotgun is known, colloquially, as a "Street Sweeper." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,272 Posted June 18, 2023 4 hours ago, League Champion said: We don't have a gun problem, we have a people problem. My guns aren't a problem, how are anyone elses? And flags n your case… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,926 Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, dogcows said: And flags n your case… Sucking a D makes you gay, pulling the trigger on a gun and killing someone makes you a murderer. Handing your Kid off to perverted Kid Obsessed Trannies for story time is horrible parenting. In case you were wondering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted June 19, 2023 3 hours ago, 5-Points said: OK, my bad. A drum-fed, semi-auto, 12 gauge, shotgun is known, colloquially, as a "Street Sweeper." That makes 10x more sense. I can't tell you the number of times I've heard the "you can just use X" defense in these conversations. Correct, a ban on a specific gun will do little because there are 100s of different guns and mods. A full gun ban won't work here for many reasons, and personally I think people should be allowed guns as home defense, so there's that. You won't catch me arguing for wanting a gun ban. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted June 19, 2023 7 hours ago, League Champion said: We don't have a gun problem, we have a people problem. My guns aren't a problem, how are anyone elses? I think when the masses don't see the people being addressed they are more likely to look to the guns as well. All politicians point to mental illness for our troubles, but yet it never seems to be high on anybody's agenda. Not enough profit and lobbyists, I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites