TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Ā I didnāt āassumeā anything.Ā Yes you did. Ā On 9/9/2024 at 1:32 PM, Fireballer said: If Tyreek thought he didnāt think he need to come out of the car, Iām betting something happened during that event which caused it to escalate. Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted January 1 20 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Yes you did. Ā Ā LMAOā¦I wasnāt assuming that. Ā I was basing that statement on SCOTUS case law,that Hill Iām sure had no awareness of, that gave them authority to remove him. If anything, at the time, I was giving Hill more wiggle room than the cops. Ā But you donāt understand that. What a moron. Ā Just stay down. Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 1 9 minutes ago, Fireballer said: LMAOā¦I wasnāt assuming that. Ā I was basing that statement on SCOTUS case law,that Hill Iām sure had no awareness of, that gave them authority to remove him. If anything, at the time, I was giving Hill more wiggle room than the cops. Ā But you donāt understand that. What a moron. Ā Just stay down. Ā You were giving Hill more wiggle room by saying he should have already been in jail? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted January 1 21 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You were giving Hill more wiggle room by saying he should have already been in jail? You really care about Tyreek Hill, huh?Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted January 1 52 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You were giving Hill more wiggle room by saying he should have already been in jail? This is why people kick you in the teeth around here. Ā You post these little quips like theyāre some sort of gotcha. Ā You are basically saying that I canāt think Hill was guilty of domestic violence, and still remain remain objective in the Miami stadium incident. Ā You exposed yourself with your stance that Torresā previous action should disqualify him from an objective judgmentĀ in his interaction with Hill and company. Ā Just because you canāt process objectivity, doesnāt mean others canāt. Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted January 1 Glad I didnāt delete it.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 1 40 minutes ago, Fireballer said: This is why people kick you in the teeth around here. Ā You post these little quips like theyāre some sort of gotcha. Ā You are basically saying that I canāt think Hill was guilty of domestic violence, and still remain remain objective in the Miami stadium incident. Ā You exposed yourself with your stance that Torresā previous action should disqualify him from an objective judgmentĀ in his interaction with Hill and company. Ā Just because you canāt process objectivity, doesnāt mean others canāt. Ā Torres deserves an objective judgement, but his prior actions can certainly be evidence as to whether or not his behavior was a pattern. If you recall this thread, I didnāt comment too much on Hill. Ā But I was very put off by Torresā actions towards Campbell, which included both aggressiveness towards someone that did nothing wrong, and stupidity by citing a law that didnāt exist. Ā So because of those things, I would tend to believe that he was not totally justified in his actions in regards to Hill. Ā But Iāll wait to see what the official decision is, you however seem convinced he will be cleared. Ā Actually since we were talking about lawyers earlier, I forgot that Torresā lawyer sent an apology to Hill. Ā Is it normal for copsā lawyers to send apology letters if they didnāt do anything wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted January 1 18 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Torres deserves an objective judgement, but his prior actions can certainly be evidence as to whether or not his behavior was a pattern. If you recall this thread, I didnāt comment too much on Hill. Ā But I was very put off by Torresā actions towards Campbell, which included both aggressiveness towards someone that did nothing wrong, and stupidity by citing a law that didnāt exist. Ā So because of those things, I would tend to believe that he was not totally justified in his actions in regards to Hill. Ā But Iāll wait to see what the official decision is, you however seem convinced he will be cleared. Ā Actually since we were talking about lawyers earlier, I forgot that Torresā lawyer sent an apology to Hill. Ā Is it normal for copsā lawyers to send apology letters if they didnāt do anything wrong? 1. Ā I put no weight in what attorneys strategically do. 2. Ā You still have no understanding of why Torres handled Campbell the way he did. Ā His stupidity of quoting a statute that wasnāt in effect, doesnāt prohibit him from acting on existing statute and executing valid police procedure. Ā Iāve explained this in detail previously, but for some reason you analyze this whole thing in a weird emotional slant that ignores what cops are allowed to. Like I said a while ago, go do a ride along with your local police. Ā Maybe you will take a different view. Iām done. Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,997 Posted January 1 4 hours ago, TimHauck said: Bump for @FireballerĀ who oddly disappeared after it was revealed this officer was a dirt bag in prior incidents too. Some more details on theĀ prior incidents here: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/details-emerge-on-prior-discipline-of-officer-who-detained-dolphins-player-tyreek-hill/6087223/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand Tyreek is a dirt bag as well, so what's the difference?Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 1 8 minutes ago, Fireballer said: 1. Ā I put no weight in what attorneys strategically do. 2. Ā You still have no understanding of why Torres handled Campbell the way he did. Ā His stupidity of quoting a statute that wasnāt in effect, doesnāt prohibit him from acting on existing statute and executing valid police procedure. Ā Iāve explained this in detail previously, but for some reason you analyze this whole thing in a weird emotional slant that ignores what cops are allowed to. Like I said a while ago, go do a ride along with your local police. Ā Maybe you will take a different view. Iām done. Ā Campbell did nothing wrong, and Miami PD agreed. Ā HTHĀ Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Campbell did nothing wrong, and Miami PD agreed. Ā Ā Link? Ā They specifically said that Campbell broke no laws and that Torres was wrong his attempts to control his position or detain him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,997 Posted January 2 21 minutes ago, Death said: Clownzo's America. This is Pedo Joe's America you idiot Ā And it's EXACTLY WHAT YOU VOTED FOR Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 302 Posted January 2 Just now, Maximum Overkill said: This is Pedo Joe's America you idiot Ā And it's EXACTLY WHAT YOU VOTED FOR Ā GOP - Grand Ol' Perverts. They lurve their sexual misconduct! Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,031 Posted January 2 4 hours ago, peenie said: Glad I didnāt delete it.Ā Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,031 Posted January 2 27 minutes ago, Death said: GOP - Grand Ol' Perverts. They lurve their sexual misconduct! Ā Death- pimpledoosh He loves being a dumbass. And he'll soon be in to tell everyone that he has me on ignore like he has 40 times before.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted January 2 3 hours ago, seafoam1 said: Why? Someone was looking for it at a later time and Iām glad he found it.Ā I tend to delete my threads because they tend to turn ugly for some reason.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,031 Posted January 2 1 hour ago, peenie said: Someone was looking for it at a later time and Iām glad he found it.Ā I tend to delete my threads because they tend to turn ugly for some reason.Ā Hey. Nothing like sticking up for domestic violence whenever you have a chance. AMIRIGHT?Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted January 2 I havenāt read this thread, not sure why it was uhā¦canāt think of the word, but brought back up again. Iām too lazy to read the new comments. (Bumped) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted January 2 1 hour ago, peenie said: I havenāt read this thread, not sure why it was uhā¦canāt think of the word, but brought back up again. Iām too lazy to read the new comments. (Bumped) Tim Hauk bumped it in a weird attempt to discredit me while he was rage typing at me in another thread.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites