How often does a QB throw an interception and then a fumble on the same play?

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and then another int in 2 passes  

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His passing ability is not impressive 

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50 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

His passing ability is not impressive 

He is good at getting a yard when two guys are pushing his tush.

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I have no idea why Sirianni keeps lining Hurts up in the shotgun. He, Barkley and the team are waaaaay better under center and the splits aren't even close. Hurts is HORRIBLE in the gun. 

The data proves it, why can't Sirianni and Patullo see it to?? 

@MDC , would you agree? 

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26 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

He is good at getting a yard when two guys are pushing his tush.

And that play hasnt been as good so they are lost.  Out of teams that may make the playoffs the only team with less points per game is the Texans and they are right behind.  The rest that are below the Eagles are eliminated or all but eliminated.   Yet they have a top 5 WR duo, Barkley, and a rock solid TE.  And their division is Skins, Giants, Cowboys, not exactly tough defenses.  

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1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

His passing ability is not impressive 

In his defense, the 1st play of the game should have been a TD but Brown dropped it. Was right in his hands and he would have easily beat the defender.

Other than a good deep ball. He's not very good.

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I think the Eagles struggles are a combo of a SB letdown / burnout following a 21-game season, losing the OC, regression and injuries all over the OL, complete lack of a running game most of the year. Hurts played the worst game of his career last night.

I’ve accepted that the Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles probably won’t repeat. They’ll retool because it’s a gold standard organization, but it won’t be this year.

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1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I have no idea why Sirianni keeps lining Hurts up in the shotgun. He, Barkley and the team are waaaaay better under center and the splits aren't even close. Hurts is HORRIBLE in the gun. 

The data proves it, why can't Sirianni and Patullo see it to?? 

@MDC , would you agree? 

Sirianni is a dope. As Colon Cowturd says "Out over his skies" 

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10 minutes ago, MDC said:

I think the Eagles struggles are a combo of a SB letdown / burnout following a 21-game season, losing the OC, regression and injuries all over the OL, complete lack of a running game most of the year. Hurts played the worst game of his career last night.

I’ve accepted that the Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles probably won’t repeat. They’ll retool because it’s a gold standard organization, but it won’t be this year.

I realize they won a SB with this group.  But what would retool mean?  Get rid of AJ Brown?  

I heard a Philly fan say 40 attempts!  Thats not Hurts' game.  I mean is 40 attempts once in a while in a competitive game with OT...insane?  Why have a top 5 wr duo and a good TE if that is just blasphemy?  Hurts has literally had one of if not the best set of offensive players for most all his career.  If the preference is to tush push, run it, play action 1 read throw...then its silly to keep Brown around at his nunber and not get anything for him.  

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2 minutes ago, edjr said:

Sirianni is a dope. As Colon Cowturd says "Out over his skies" 

He was an OC before he got this job.  Is it insane that he calls the plays if the new OC is a dope?  Thats sort of the insurance in losing an OC.  The HC is an offensive guy.  

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I am sure the iggles didn't get what they wanted for Brown so they didn't trade him

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2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I realize they won a SB with this group.  But what would retool mean? 

I’d start with the OL. Cam Jergens is not that great and injured all the time. Landon Dickerson gets hurt constantly and the RG position is a downgrade from last year. Lane Johnson isn’t going to okay forever. The running game has been awful most of the year. 

It’s just not their year. It happens.

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Just now, MDC said:

I’d start with the OL. Cam Jergens is not that great and injured all the time. Landon Dickerson gets hurt constantly and the RG position is a downgrade from last year. Lane Johnson isn’t going to okay forever. The running game has been awful most of the year. 

It’s just not their year. It happens.

Oh I know.   They went from 1st OL to not as good.  

Not saying they cant use that upgraded at this point.   But can well paid Hurts, Barkley, Brown, Smith, Goedart not function without an elite OL?  Its like Hurts needs all pros at each position.  

Im not a PFF slut.  Its not the gospel.  But when trying to look into OL rankings, it is at least a reference.   This was written on December 3rd 

-The team's offensive line surrendered just four pressures to the Bears' pass rush, moving the unit back into the top five of these rankings.

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Oh I know.   They went from 1st OL to not as good.  

The Eagles are 22nd in YPG and averaging 4.1 YPC (also 22nd). Hurts is a good (not great) QB with warts who’s playing bad ball right now. I try to form an opinion based on a body of work vs the last thing that happened — the worst game of his career.

Everyone on the Eagles O needs to play better. 

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No one has answered the OP  

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Just now, MDC said:

The Eagles are 22nd in YPG and averaging 4.1 YPC (also 22nd). Hurts is a good (not great) QB with warts who’s playing bad ball right now. I try to form an opinion based on a body of work vs the last thing that happened — the worst game of his career.

Everyone on the Eagles O needs to play better. 

Im not forming it off 1 game.  Ive always thought he was meh as a passer.  Hes showed up in some big games to his credit.  

The question was basically, does he need the best roster in football to look like a top 10 QB?  Rough patches happen.  But this "they will retool".  I dont know, maybe build roster differently.  But you are going to retool a top 5 WR duo to be better?  Upgrade TE?  Overhaul the OL because they had some injuries for once and werent the absolute best unit?  Get a new RB?  What exactly is there to retool on offense besides bringing in some OL bodies?  They traded their swing tackle to the Packers this season...

Obviously a new OC could be called a retool.  

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1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

Im not forming it off 1 game.  Ive always thought he was meh as a passer.  Hes showed up in some big games to his credit.  

The question was basically, does he need the best roster in football to look like a top 10 QB?  Rough patches happen.  But this "they will retool".  I dont know, maybe build roster differently.  But you are going to retool a top 5 WR duo to be better?  Upgrade TE?  Overhaul the OL because they had some injuries for once and werent the absolute best unit?  Get a new RB?  What exactly is there to retool on offense besides bringing in some OL bodies?  They traded their swing tackle to the Packers this season...

Obviously a new OC could be called a retool.  

The Eagles definitely don’t have the best roster in football on O this year. They have a OL is beat up, they can’t run the ball, and the OC is green and maybe just not good. AJ Brown is also struggling to get open and quitting on routes. He dropped a TD last night and caused an INT. 

Hurts is part of why they're struggling, but it’s a team sport. I still think he’s a Top 10 QB even though he’s going through the worst stretch of his career. 

He also gets paid less than Dak, TLaw, Love, Tua, and Herbert. And has more playoff wins than all of them combined along with a chip.