mobb_deep 920 Posted October 11, 2007 I've got way too many Chargers on my team (LT, Gates, VJax, Turner). Next weeks bye is going to absolutely kill me and I'd like more long term balance on my team. I've been offered the following trade... MB3, Reggie Bush, and Heath Miller for LT, Michael Turner, Ladell Betts. I never thought I could trade LT but surely Barber and Bush are worth it right? It's a FLEX league so I'll be able to start Barber, Bush, and Edge every week, instead of LT, Edge, and a scrub like Betts or a WR (which I don't have with Deion hurt anyways). I also get a pretty good TE to fill in for Gates next week on bye. Sure giving up LT is huge, but this seems like as good as you could get for him right? If I don't make a move this week I'll be screwed on bye and be forced to start 3 chargers every week until Branch comes back. Standard scoring and we only start 2 WR's and up to 3 RB's (no PPR). What you think? my squad... Bulger/Cutler/Huard (bye filler) LT, Edge, Kevin Jones, Betts, Turner, Deangelo Williams Owens, Deion, VJax Gates racker minny d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The OPH 0 Posted October 11, 2007 if its a PPR league than i say go for it. Bush will get between 7-10 receptions a game and will be a top 10 back for sure...maybe even ahead of LT. MB3 gets more touches and should eventually start if the cowboys want to win the big one. I say pull the trigger without regrets if it PPR and if not its still a good trade if this week is a must win. see mine please http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=295113 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Sydney 0 Posted October 11, 2007 That's an interesting combo. Yes, PPR would make a difference with Bush in the mix. MBIII was pretty quiet last week, but is a guaranteed 75 yds and maybe a score minimum. You're getting a decent TE and two good RBs out of the mix. I'd say yes. see mine please http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=295116 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HowieWan 0 Posted October 11, 2007 Heath Miller will only be in your lineup one week - I'd target a WR3 rather than Miller. In order to give up LT and Turner, I'd want at least 3 quality starters: MBIII is still RBBC (even if we all see he should be starting) and Bush hasn't exactly proven he is top-tier material up to this point. I tend to be far too conservative on trades, but I would want just a bit more for LT2. see mine: http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=295079 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giants_fan 0 Posted October 11, 2007 I agree with "HowieWan". The other remaining guys would be good to trade for. Please answer my post http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...w_post&f=13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kolp 9 Posted October 11, 2007 Yeah, it's tough to pull the trigger on this one. JJ looks like he's getting more carries the past 2 games, even though we all agree that MB3 is the better back. And Duece is money in a PPR league, but since you're in a standard scoring, I'd say no. It's a fair trade though, which is more than I can say for some of the joke offers I get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joemax_60613 0 Posted October 11, 2007 I think this is a good example of an acceptable trade for a stud. Giving up LT2 for that combo is pretty decent. I would make this deal and immediately make plans to trade Miller after Gates' bye, and definitely look to upgrade your QB. Is Gus gone already? He helped me during some Daunte injuries and I still have a soft spot for him. I obviously have a lot of love for Barber also, so maybe include some salt with this advice. But I see the Cowboys ratcheting back the gunslinging we saw Monday while opponents try to take away some of the high-octane passing game, leaving lots of time for Barber. Plus JJ is on pace to break down any game now. I like this deal and thanks for your help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmkratt 0 Posted October 11, 2007 I like the deal as well. Thanks for helping me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beef Ravioli 0 Posted October 11, 2007 Well after you chastized me for my poor trade, here it goes. Seriously thank you for your response. I think if you put LT out on the board, you should be able to come up with a better offer than what you are getting in this deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbuofi7 0 Posted October 11, 2007 Heath Miller will only be in your lineup one week - I'd target a WR3 rather than Miller. In order to give up LT and Turner, I'd want at least 3 quality starters: MBIII is still RBBC (even if we all see he should be starting) and Bush hasn't exactly proven he is top-tier material up to this point. I tend to be far too conservative on trades, but I would want just a bit more for LT2. I agree with this post. I think another WR would much better suit you. Also, I think balance in your team will work out better, especially since one bad SD week and it's a loss. I'd say work on it though. Please see mine: http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=295171 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfry45 0 Posted October 11, 2007 I say go for it, the trade boils down to MBIII and Bush for LT and I think down the stretch MBIII will put up some great numbers. The trade gets even better if it's PPR. Thanks for the help on my trade! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiotec 31 Posted October 11, 2007 The problem I have with it is it seems like SD is just finally getting it together, so I think it is just getting started for LT this year. Bush really scares me in that offense. As an LT owner as well, I would want two RB's I could at least count on for LT, and right now I wouldn't consider Bush one of those. Thanks for mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beef Ravioli 0 Posted October 11, 2007 OK if you are a "VET" then why are you looking to the "Rooks" for your help. I pretty much agreed with what had already been stated. Not being lazy, but not much more could be added to what had already been stated. But if you would like a bucn of fluff, I would be happy to tell what I think. Perhaps you just want someone to agree with you and make you feel ok about what you are getting ready to do. Pull the trigger man - go for it. LT for Bush and Barber sounds great to me. Trade the best fantasy player from the last four years and get a maybe and a part timer. Thanks again for mine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beef Ravioli 0 Posted October 11, 2007 WOW! It is a fantasy league man. FANTASY! Enjoy the ride and have fun. Your not going to get hired by the Broncos next year to run their team because your such a good fantasy owner. I am glad to say no I do not: "Did you look at the SOS Bush has played against? Did you see how he did as the primary carrier last week? Do you know who Bush and MB3 go up against in the FF playoff's? Do you recognize the fact that I have 4 Chargers on my team who are ALL on bye next week, and my backup WR out with a bum ankle. Did you notice that I'm getting a decent TE to cover BYE who I could then use with VJax or Branch for a WR or QB upgrade?" I have a little bit more of a life. Here I will make a deal with you - you pass on my next question and I will answer your next one for free. Then we will call it even. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bakes99 0 Posted October 11, 2007 I like the deal for you although I would rather get some QB help or a decent WR3 instead of Miller who will never see your starting lineup. Bush/MBIII will more than likely outscore LT/Branch or VJax each week. In my league the combo of Bush/MBIII has almost the same YTD point total as LT/Branch and that was with Bush splitting time with Deuce and having a bye week. In the situation you are in I don't think you have a choice but to make the deal - I don't like to start 2 players from the same team let alone 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted October 11, 2007 I agree with those who say ask for a WR over miller. In the end I would do the deal though. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=295183 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dalie 2 Posted October 11, 2007 Overall I like this trade, you get 2 good RB's and a decent (at worst) TE in the deal. However as stated earlier WR3 is more of a need than TE for you. So I would go after a WR3 after week 7 and Gate's bye. To try get one in this deal means you would have to drop a player next week to get a poor TE and you risk losing the dropped player to the WW if you want him back, with Miller you get a tradable player for week 8. Mine? http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=295177 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ybrik111 0 Posted October 12, 2007 I know you're getting a lot of positives on this trade but I think trading LT is a mistake. The first five games of a season are often completely different from the last or the middle for that matter. I think LT will turn it on and there is no guarantee that Bush will improve. I don't play in PPR though so I guess that's a point... thanks for answering mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cincyredsfan34 0 Posted October 12, 2007 Like the twenty previous posts if its a PPR league than I might be inclined to do it if you get a decent wr in place of Miller who you will only play one week, but if not than I keep LT or ask for more cause LT is still LT (and I think he will heat up starting this weekend) and Bush hasnt set the world on fire and MBIII has a definite ceiling with Jones still in the mix. If no PPR than i nix this deal and work on another one to get rid of VJAX for another wr to split up your chargers. Good Luck, thanks for answering mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brownsfan21 1 Posted October 12, 2007 I would not trade any player that can single handedly give you a win in any week. Therefore If I had LT I would not make this trade. Just my opinion and I hope you respect it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bill belichik's hoody 0 Posted October 12, 2007 i'll take the under on the 100 pt spread between bush + barber vs. LT for the rest of the season. the new orleans offense is not good this year, bush brings very little value to the table. plus, i think barber already had his best stretch of the season. LT plus a scrub should be about as good as barber + bush. if you find a gem or portis gets hurt, the scale gets tipped heavily in the direction of what you have already. this is a big no go. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=295208 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Headslap75 0 Posted October 12, 2007 First off Thanks 4 taking the time and the well thought out response to mine....and I apologize for my angry tone Anyhow as has been mentioned I would jump if it was ppr but I truly think you should do better in your scoring format.....I don't like your Q.B situation see if you can't squeeze the guy(if he has anyone that is desirable for a Q.B )I think that is reasonable.So I would take my lumps on the bye week if you can't get the guy to sweeten the pot.However,it's not a horrible deal by any means...trust your gut feeling on this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites