Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Hey Moz there's an important article on the main board about one of your players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Brain 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by Captain Lou: Quick question, why would anyone burn a fifth rounder for either receiver? You should be able to get them from the 7th and on if you choose to do so. :confused: Because the people now waiting for the player to fall to them at 7 are SOL. I cannot afford to wait 20 picks in hopes a player will fall to me, if he is available and I feel he is worth it I expend the pick...I draft by where I see a players value to my needs, not off of a generic cheat sheet. My biggest dissapoint of the draft was A-train, I didn't want to be caught without 2 RBs...how he pans out only time will tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Moz: that's youre opinion sing -- we will see as the years play out. That is not my opinion. That is the talent scout's opinion. that is Mooch's opinion. That is even Roger's opinion. I need to get better at my short and intermediate routes. It is unlikely Rogers makes a large impact this year. These are all things I heard coming out of the first mini camp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 The Moz -- will now crawl into a shell and eat his words -- at least it will be a large meal and i haven't had lunch yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted May 21, 2003 I love it when guys with "potential" get taken too early. Case in point: Bennett, Vick, Shockey, Rogers, Johnson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Brain 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by Wuerffel for MVP:I love it when guys with "potential" get taken too early. Case in point: Bennett, Vick, Shockey, Rogers, Johnson. Hey I'm 2 for 5 (note the first time gremlin use) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by Wuerffel for MVP:I love it when guys with "potential" get taken too early. Case in point: Bennett, Vick, Shockey, Rogers, Johnson. Vick should not be in that list. He is a special talent and one that doesn't come around to often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Brain: Hey I'm 2 for 5 (note the first time gremlin use) So's Uncle Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shox 0 Posted May 21, 2003 W4MVP I don't see Shockey going much to early. He is a great receiving TE and the Giants like to use his skills. He will outscore all but 1 or 2 TE by a significant margin, so this makes it a big advantage to have him on your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Lou 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by singman: Lou, I wouldn't. I am trying to build for the future as well as now. Neither Receiver will do anything this year where there are plenty of 2nd and 3rd year WR's that are still very young but will produce this year whereas these 2 will not. But if you see something special in these guys or you just plain want them I guess you feel the need to grab them. My point also, stated much better by you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted May 21, 2003 I think McNabb was a better value than Vick short- and long-term. He's a proven leader and competitor and has been able to produce without any real threats at WR or RB. As for Shockey yeah he'll be great but he's a TE and he only scored twice last year. That's not good for a guy taken in the 4th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by Shox:W4MVP I don't see Shockey going much to early. He is a great receiving TE and the Giants like to use his skills. He will outscore all but 1 or 2 TE by a significant margin, so this makes it a big advantage to have him on your team. I agree. I by no means like Paul's team but I don't mind the shockey pick or even the vick pick. Rb's like Bennett, Portis, Etc... seem to come around every year but only once in a while does a talent like vick come along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shox 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Hot new fellow drafters. Thomas Jones will not have charges pressed against him for assault. Draft him without fear now!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by Wuerffel for MVP:I think McNabb was a better value than Vick short- and long-term. He's a proven leader and competitor and has been able to produce without any real threats at WR or RB. As for Shockey yeah he'll be great but he's a TE and he only scored twice last year. That's not good for a guy taken in the 4th. Better value or better QB?. I belive this year or the following year Vick will just be phenominal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shox 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Vick's potential is off the chart. Will he realize that potential is yet to be determined. It was a gamble as early as he was taken, but it could be "hit the lottery time" also. [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: Shox ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Right now he's the better QB. Vick will probably be fantastic in a couple of years (I don't think he'll do THAT much better this year than last) but his style will get him hurt ALOT. I think he has amazing talent but McNabb is just on another level right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by DIVINE DESTRUCTION:If you guys want me to pick you better hurry up. I have a meeting from 1:30-3:15 and I dont want to do a list bc there are to many questions. Is this EST central pacific what? Anybody? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 If Vick learns how to slide sometimes he will be well worth a 1st rounder I thought long and hard about taking him over faulk and might regret it. the reason I didn't is do to Vick throwing his body around like a tacklin dummy when he runs into traffic he can't avoid. He needs to SLIDE if he knows he can't aviod getting hit -- even if it's around the endzone ( unless its the late playoffs / superbowl ). I will say he is a special talent -- His arm isn't quite there yet ( accuracy ) and his reads aren't quite the best YET , But in maybe just 1 more year he will be the top QB in FF and will stay there for many years. I like McNabb as well but just don't think he is the same kind of athlete Vick is -- he is a great athlete don't get me wrong -- But if one is on a different Level -- It's Vick that is on a different level than McNabb in that department. But MCNabb is a solid # 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by singman: Is this EST central pacific what? Anybody? I think everyone when posting time here states in EST -- so I think he will be back shortly -- hopefully. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shox 0 Posted May 21, 2003 My post show central time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by Shox:My post show central time. I know what the website says Do any of you have any idea what time zone Divine is in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle P 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by Wuerffel for MVP:He's a proven leader and competitor and has been able to produce without any real threats at WR or RB. Who did Vick have to throw to last year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shox 0 Posted May 21, 2003 He must be Central, because I looked at my clock when he posted those times and it matched my time here. Another 45 minutes or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DIVINE DESTRUCTION 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Hey guys just got back, had an interview....thanks for the patience......interview went very well thanks for the concern. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DIVINE DESTRUCTION 0 Posted May 21, 2003 A. JOHNSON WTF.... ROFLMAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by DIVINE DESTRUCTION:Hey guys just got back, had an interview....thanks for the patience......interview went very well thanks for the concern. lol How are you? You having a good day? Hope your interview went well. Now pick!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DIVINE DESTRUCTION 0 Posted May 21, 2003 this next one will take a few minutes. M. Pittman while he sucks,lol, still averages 9-10 pts. a game with our scoring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeyjoejoe 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by singman: How are you? You having a good day? Hope your interview went well. Now pick!!!!! Hehehe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 With his great SB game maybe he uses that as a springboard -- I doubt it but if RB is what you wanted here -- you got good value though there is RB that still han't been taken and I am very surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeyjoejoe 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Moz:With his great SB game maybe he uses that as a springboard -- I doubt it but if RB is what you wanted here -- you got good value though there is RB that still han't been taken and I am very surprised. Your next pick Moz? 5 RBs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCW412 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Moz:With his great SB game maybe he uses that as a springboard -- I doubt it but if RB is what you wanted here -- you got good value though there is RB that still han't been taken and I am very surprised. Agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by joeyjoejoe: Your next pick Moz? 5 RBs? There is 1 I am eyeing but by the time I can afford to take another RB he will long gone ! [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: The Moz ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by The Moz: There is 1 I am eyeing but by the time I can afford to take another RB he will long gone ! [ 05-21-2003: Message edited by: The Moz ] Not necessarily. If you have your eye on him he will probably be there in the 8th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DIVINE DESTRUCTION 0 Posted May 21, 2003 anyone interested in trading up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by singman: Not necessarily. If you have your eye on him he will probably be there in the 8th. He might be there in the 8th -- But I really doubt i can afford another RB that soon. And thought Rogers might of been snagged too soon -- I doubt he would have made it past Brain in the same round - he is who I wanted and If I didn't pick him when I did I likley wouldn't have him -- If he busts so be it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by DIVINE DESTRUCTION:anyone interested in trading up Maybe -- email me with what you are looking for . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted May 21, 2003 Originally posted by DIVINE DESTRUCTION:anyone interested in trading up No DD just make your pick already geez! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DIVINE DESTRUCTION 0 Posted May 21, 2003 dont know moz that's the problem. I will pick in next 5 minutes unless moz or someone else emails me an offer I cannt refuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
