Staubach the Great 0 Posted March 15, 2006 I will not cheer for this creep if he comes here. I do not care if its worth a Super Bowl. Jerry, don't do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted March 15, 2006 Let me ask you - did you cheer for Rafeal Septein, Hollywood Henderson or Michael Irvin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted March 15, 2006 Let me ask you - did you cheer for Rafeal Septein, Hollywood Henderson or Michael Irvin? Ouch, that had to hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted March 15, 2006 Here's my take on it: * I cheered as loud as anybody for Septein, Hollywood and Mike. Does that make me a hypocrite? Prolly, but would be the difference here? * Personally, I fear TO coming in here and wrecking the locker room and the chemistry. * What TO did to the star I do not hold against him, believe it or not. Two reasons: (1) it was our job to keep him from scoring and we failed (twice) - he made us his beotch, and (2) George Teague did what needed to be done and got a piece of him. Story is over in my mind. * Just depends on which TO we get - the one that behaved and played his ass off the first year in Philly or the jackass that showed up in year 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 72 Posted March 15, 2006 * Just depends on which TO we get - the one that behaved and played his ass off the first year in Philly or the jackass that showed up in year 2. You don't honestly think he's got it all together now do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted March 15, 2006 You don't honestly think he's got it all together now do you? I don't know, they said the same things about him his first year in Philly - and they were wrong. Peter King was saying this: TO wants to get a 2 year deal and then cash in on his last big contract in 3 years - says this must may be the initiative to keep him straight cuz if he blows it this time he'll for sure not cash out on his last deal. In the end, nobody really knows - it's a big gamble for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jkruppe 0 Posted March 15, 2006 FWIW, I agree with the original poster. We don't want this idiot. Go get Moulds instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peens 0 Posted March 15, 2006 I will not cheer for this creep if he comes here. I do not care if its worth a Super Bowl. Jerry, don't do it. Absolutely stupid. I dont care who dallas signs as long as they help them win, Its all good!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted March 15, 2006 * Personally, I fear TO coming in here and wrecking the locker room and the chemistry. This never happens in the NFL. T.Owens pissed off McCrybabie, not the rest of the team, they all wanted him to stay with the Eagles. One guy has never pissed off an entire NFL lockerroom to the point of ruining their chemistry. He did not call out the entire team. And most of the Eagles players could whip his @ss, so I doubt he was seen as much of a threat to any of their manhood's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Christ 0 Posted March 15, 2006 This never happens in the NFL. T.Owens pissed off McCrybabie, not the rest of the team, they all wanted him to stay with the Eagles. One guy has never pissed off an entire NFL lockerroom to the point of ruining their chemistry. He did not call out the entire team. And most of the Eagles players could whip his @ss, so I doubt he was seen as much of a threat to any of their manhood's. So let T.O. get out of line with Drew, Drew will knock him out. I think Drew could take him, Imagine that ESPN Highlight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted March 15, 2006 This never happens in the NFL. T.Owens pissed off McCrybabie, not the rest of the team, they all wanted him to stay with the Eagles. One guy has never pissed off an entire NFL lockerroom to the point of ruining their chemistry. He did not call out the entire team. And most of the Eagles players could whip his @ss, so I doubt he was seen as much of a threat to any of their manhood's. It doesn't have to happen with the entire team, it just needs to happen to some of them. This is what creates the problem, it divides the locker room and you have the team pulling in different directions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigSeXXXy 0 Posted March 15, 2006 I was hearing the same thing about Keyshawn, I do believe he is Dallas reigning Player of the Year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staubach the Great 0 Posted March 16, 2006 Every team has their Septiens, Irvins. etc. maybe if your teams enjoy the succes that is America's Team then they would lossen up a bit and party. I think TO is not worth it. Remember that Philly got to the Super bowl 2 years ago without him. He was injured thru the playoffs which is where they were choking. And he did not help them win a Super bowl, the Pats did not allow him to break lose, they kept him contained. He can make big plays no doubt, but his disruptive nature affects the team too much. Even his high school coach thinks he is an ass. Give me Moulds and Beldsoe reunited, and save some $ for another free agent and shore up the running game with a big lineman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted March 16, 2006 Every team has their Septiens, Irvins. etc. maybe if your teams enjoy the succes that is America's Team then they would lossen up a bit and party. What in the hell does this mean? I'll ask again, did you cheer for Septein, Hollywood and/or Mike? Remember that Philly got to the Super bowl 2 years ago without him. In large part bcoz they had home-field thru out and had a 1st round bye - what TO did during the regular season is a large part as to why their road to the SB was so easy. He was injured thru the playoffs which is where they were choking. They were choking thru the playoffs? What in the hell are you talking about, they won their Divisional playoff game and then went on to win the NFC championship game - how did they choke in doing that? And he did not help them win a Super bowl, the Pats did not allow him to break lose, they kept him contained. The Pats did not contain him, TO went off for 9 catches and 122 yards. The did keep him from scoring but they hardly contained him - he was amazing in that game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwren 4 Posted March 16, 2006 I'm not sure that T.O. was any more devisive than Charles Haley, and he put in some good years in Dallas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted March 16, 2006 I'm not sure that T.O. was any more devisive than Charles Haley, and he put in some good years in Dallas. Great point, and along those lines - Deion was supposedly not worth the risk of bringing in. How'd that work out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwren 4 Posted March 16, 2006 Great point, and along those lines - Deion was supposedly not worth the risk of bringing in. How'd that work out? I'm a die hard pokes fan, and yeah I've always hated T.O., but what boys fan wouldn't after the star incident and the fact he played for SF and Philly? I think T.O. over a period of time will become a cancer, no doubt, but would there be any more motivated player in the league "This Year". Playing for the most hated rival of the team that fired you would definitely stoke his fire for maybe even a couple or three years. Also, love him or hate him, a lot of the big name players love playing for Jerry Jones because he opens the wallet. Just a few thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted March 16, 2006 Every team has their Septiens, Irvins. etc. maybe if your teams enjoy the succes that is America's Team then they would lossen up a bit and party. I was not a big M. Irvin fan but here is the difference between him and TO. Ask the Cowboys who played with him, he was a great team mate. He always gave 110% and would cover the back of anyone. On another note: You Cowboy fans really have to get off that self proclaimed "America's Team". It is a myth in your own mind. When Pitts. played in Dalls in 2004 there were more Steeler fans there than Cowboy fans. I am not a Steelers Fan but I would have to say they are alot closer to America's team than Dallas. Ther fans show up everywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwren 4 Posted March 16, 2006 On another note: You Cowboy fans really have to get off that self proclaimed "America's Team". It is a myth in your own mind. When Pitts. played in Dalls in 2004 there were more Steeler fans there than Cowboy fans. I am not a Steelers Fan but I would have to say they are alot closer to America's team than Dallas. Ther fans show up everywhere. Your argument is faulty because you're comparing hometown Steeler fans versus hometown Dallas fans. No doubt that the fans are better (they travel and support their team no matter what), and hometown Cowboy fans are fair weather for sure. The point of the "America's Team" title is that the Cowboys are more popular across the country than any other team. By the way, being hated as they are has as much to do with the "America's Team" title as well. Just like the Yankees are to baseball, the Cowboys are to football. People care one way or the other, there are no fence straddlers with the Boys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted March 17, 2006 On another note:You Cowboy fans really have to get off that self proclaimed "America's Team". It is a myth in your own mind. When Pitts. played in Dalls in 2004 there were more Steeler fans there than Cowboy fans. I am not a Steelers Fan but I would have to say they are alot closer to America's team than Dallas. Ther fans show up everywhere. Your argument is faulty because you're comparing hometown Steeler fans versus hometown Dallas fans. No doubt that the fans are better (they travel and support their team no matter what), and hometown Cowboy fans are fair weather for sure. The point of the "America's Team" title is that the Cowboys are more popular across the country than any other team. By the way, being hated as they are has as much to do with the "America's Team" title as well. Just like the Yankees are to baseball, the Cowboys are to football. People care one way or the other, there are no fence straddlers with the Boys. You are living in a dream world my friend. Comparing the Cowboys to the Yankees is a joke. The term "Americas Team" came from the Cowboy Organization. Yes they gave the name to themselves. In the seventies they called one of their year end highlight films "America's team". The shallow unimaginative TV media picked up on it and a Myth is born. There are any number of teams that are more popular than Dallas across the country. Pittts and GB are two but there are more. I am talking about REAL Football fans who know and love the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted March 17, 2006 On another note:You Cowboy fans really have to get off that self proclaimed "America's Team". It is a myth in your own mind. When Pitts. played in Dalls in 2004 there were more Steeler fans there than Cowboy fans. I am not a Steelers Fan but I would have to say they are alot closer to America's team than Dallas. Ther fans show up everywhere. You need to get your facts straight - it was NFL Films that gave the Cowboys the "America's Team" moniker. The term "Americas Team" came from the Cowboy Organization. Yes they gave the name to themselves. You are misinformed, this is incorrect. The term "Americas Team" came from the Cowboy Organization. Little history lesson for you here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted March 17, 2006 Little history lesson for you here. Great facial. But since the Cowboys have as many Super Bowl trophies as any other NFL franchise and have been in more Super Bowls than any other NFL franchise, the haters of "America's Team" will always be jealous of the Cowboys being the greatest NFL franchise of all time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yojimbo81 0 Posted March 17, 2006 I couldn't agree more. Terrell Owens is cancer. Not the kind that can be cured but the kind that spreads at a deadly rate. Jerry Jones could throw millions at T.O. but that would only be good for a year. No team in the NFL should sign this guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted March 18, 2006 Great facial. But since the Cowboys have as many Super Bowl trophies as any other NFL franchise and have been in more Super Bowls than any other NFL franchise, the haters of "America's Team" will always be jealous of the Cowboys being the greatest NFL franchise of all time. I stand corrected, Bob Ryan is an idiot. As long as we are giving history lessons GB has 12 NFL Championships and the Bears have 9 so to label Dallas as the greatest NFL franchise of all time is greatly in error. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted March 18, 2006 I stand corrected, Bob Ryan is an idiot. As long as we are giving history lessons GB has 12 NFL Championships and the Bears have 9 so to label Dallas as the greatest NFL franchise of all time is greatly in error. But ever since the NFL Super Bowl era, when the NFL's popularity exploded, Dallas has indeed been the Super Bowl kings with 8 total. Nobody now days cares about championships won when the league only had 4 teams like when Green Bay and Chicago were dominating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted March 19, 2006 But ever since the NFL Super Bowl era, when the NFL's popularity exploded, Dallas has indeed been the Super Bowl kings with 8 total. Nobody now days cares about championships won when the league only had 4 teams like when Green Bay and Chicago were dominating. You obviously don't know alot about the history of the NFL. It's alright for you to think football started when you want it to, but the fact is it is an old game and you can't change history. I believe you said Dallas was the "greatest NFL franchise of all time". I'm calling you on it and your wrong. They have to win alot of games over the next 50 years to come close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrSpanky 0 Posted March 19, 2006 I couldn't agree more. Terrell Owens is cancer. Not the kind that can be cured but the kind that spreads at a deadly rate. Jerry Jones could throw millions at T.O. but that would only be good for a year. No team in the NFL should sign this guy. disagree. he was going somewhere....why not dallas? TO wants to prove something now. It will work for 1 year, the test is year 2 & 3. I believe Parcells will kick TO to the corner before he does what he did in philly. This is gonna be a very good thing for Dallas. fix the O-line now!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwren 4 Posted March 19, 2006 You need to get your facts straight - it was NFL Films that gave the Cowboys the "America's Team" moniker.You are misinformed, this is incorrect. Little history lesson for you here. Thanks for setting him straight. I just now had the chance to read his post. NFL Films coined the phrase "America's Team" and former GM/President Tex Schramn was genius enough to use it for marketing purposes. Just the fact that the title bothers him so much shows its validity. Again, never said the Cowboys were the Yankees, but they are pro football's equivalent. Everyone loves them or hates them, but no one is indifferent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 555 Posted March 19, 2006 Everyone loves them or hates them, but no one is indifferent. I think that's true to some extent, but there are some 'indifferent' people and I'm one of them. When the Cowboys have been on top, it does tend to polarize, but when the team is not contending, I think they are viewed with indifference by a pretty fair chunk of people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince44 208 Posted March 19, 2006 The Boys need to do something, we haven't won a damn playoff game in almost 10 years, come on man it's time to take some real chances and get back to being a force in the NFC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staubach the Great 0 Posted March 19, 2006 Here is my predicition. T O will return to top 10 WR fantasy status, maybe top 3. T O plays it cool for the first year, performs at a high level. Parcells is the Man to watch here. If he thinks he can control T O and does, then He is the real star here. The Cowboys seem to have given T O a decent contract but not one that can kill them in the future. They learned from the Galloway signing years ago to not do that ever again. T O will eventually mouth off after a couple years here. Its in his blood then Bill or his predecessor will have to deal with it then. But do the Cowboys have enough to get them to the Super Bowl still? I like the signing of Fabini, to shore up that O-line. I would even suggest drafting another O-lineman to let the other stars like JJ and Witten in Dallas shine. I will say it makes them a better team than last year when they barely missed the playoffs and they beat playoff teams like NY and Carolina and screwed themselves in Seattle. Offically changing my mind, I 'm on with the deal. If it goes bad and screws the team, Jerry and Parcells will offically be to blame. That won't happen. Cowboys have as good a shot this year to be in the Super Bowl as any other NFC team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites