Wonderlic

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So Vince scores a 6...

Some punter from harvard scores a 50...

I've been searching the internet for the questions from this years test, (I assume they change every year, right?) and all I can find is some sample questions from ESPN. They seem incredibly easy, but I understand that they get progressively harder as the test goes on? (ESPN only had 15 questions)

 

Any info on this years NFL test would be appreciated.

Any opinions on how usefull the test is?

I understand that many coaches, gm's, etc. place a very high value on it, while others feel its a waste of time..I would be very interested to find out which teams place a high value on it versus the players drafted to that teams scores..

 

 

 

P.S. Great to have the forums back...I was starting to get a little nervous.

[nobody 2,894]

What fascinates me about the wonderlic is that you have to think every agent has a copy of the test, and guys still do so incredibly horrible.

[Ainsley 0]

I did a little research as to how much Wonderlic scores scare away certain NFL teams. I went back through last year's draft and recorded the high, low, and average Wonderlic score for every player drafted. Not all players are represented, as they all did not take the Wonderlic. Here are the results:

• Team High Low Avg
  CAR 47 14 28.00
  SD 37 19 27.57
  DET 32 19 26.83
  OAK 33 21 26.33
  STL 38 13 25.90
  DAL 34 16 24.67
  SF 40 6 24.56
  PIT 39 14 24.29
  SEA 31 19 24.25
  BAL 32 17 23.33
  TB 35 14 23.27
  NE 31 15 23.25
  CLE 38 16 22.50
  GB 27 9 21.44
  KC 34 13 21.43
  IND 28 12 21.33
  WAS 30 17 21.17
  NYJ 25 17 20.86
  DEN 25 15 20.80
  TEN 30 13 20.75
  BUF 33 10 20.67
  CIN 34 9 20.50
  MIA 30 10 20.33
  JAX 26 14 20.17
  NO 26 12 20.14
  HOU 26 11 19.80
  PHI 33 9 19.43
  ATL 30 11 18.63
  CHI 27 11 18.50
  MIN 21 16 18.50
  NYG 29 9 17.50
  ARI 25 13 17.38
  

Obviously there are flaws in this study, since not all players are represented and different teams drafting different positions are included. Since certain positions are typically smarter than others, the only real way to create an accurate study would be to break it down by position, which I don't have the time for right now. :-P

[RicemanX 20]

not sure if you play superstar mode for madden, but they have a wonderlic test in there, not sure if it is accurate though. But I would imagine it is something like that.

[Marshall_Law 0]

It is a fairly difficult test. My brother-in-law gives them to potential employees for his job. He gave it to me to take. Let me tell you how 12 minutes go by really fast when you are trying to answer 50 questions. I was an A student in highschool, and I scored a 34. They start off really easy, then get extremely hard towards the end. My brother-in law's job requires a score of 18 or higher, so I assume that is an average score.

 

One question I recall from the middle of the test is:

 

An archer hits a bullseye 12.5% of the time. How many shots would he have to take to hit 100 bullseyes?

 

While this question isn't extremely hard, remember, you have an average of less than 15 seconds to answer each question. This was about the middle of the test, so they get harder from there.

[nobody 2,894]

One question I recall from the middle of the test is:

 

An archer hits a bullseye 12.5% of the time. How many shots would he have to take to hit 100 bullseyes?

 

While this question isn't extremely hard, remember, you have an average of less than 15 seconds to answer each question. This was about the middle of the test, so they get harder from there.

 

 

You're supposed to know that 12.5% is 1/8th fairly quickly. Then it's a very easy problem. Gosh I'm smart.

[Stars 0]

You're supposed to know that 12.5% is 1/8th fairly quickly. Then it's a very easy problem. Gosh I'm smart.

Yeah, but does he hit 12.5% generally, or during the specific exercise?

 

Because in my mind the number is 100. He has to take 100 shots. He might take more, but that depends on how many he misses and he might frontload...

[shovelheadt 72]

It is a fairly difficult test. My brother-in-law gives them to potential employees for his job. He gave it to me to take. Let me tell you how 12 minutes go by really fast when you are trying to answer 50 questions. I was an A student in highschool, and I scored a 34. They start off really easy, then get extremely hard towards the end. My brother-in law's job requires a score of 18 or higher, so I assume that is an average score.

 

One question I recall from the middle of the test is:

 

An archer hits a bullseye 12.5% of the time. How many shots would he have to take to hit 100 bullseyes?

 

While this question isn't extremely hard, remember, you have an average of less than 15 seconds to answer each question. This was about the middle of the test, so they get harder from there.

 

Your BIL is giving a different version I'm thinking. Here's a sample of what the NFLers are taking. Pretty much cake.

 

http://www.efplfp.stealingisgood.com/wpt.html

[Vols 0]

Those questions are an absolute joke. I answered 9/9 and had 40 seconds to spare. If those are realistic questions, then Vince Young is an absolute idiot.

[Guest stevejohnson]

Madden 2006 has an unofficial wonderlic test you can take.....I got a 31. The questions are basic logic for the most part with some math mixed in. There is no reason anyone with half a brain should score under a 20 unless the are just plain stupid or choke under the pressure of the test......neither of which is a good sign for a QB.....and yes I know Marino scored a 16 and McNabb got a 12 but generally speaking it is a pretty good gage of a guys ability to learn and use information (ie, playbook)

[Marshall_Law 0]

Your BIL is giving a different version I'm thinking. Here's a sample of what the NFLers are taking. Pretty much cake.

 

http://www.efplfp.stealingisgood.com/wpt.html

 

No, this is just like the one my BIL has. These questions are at the beginning of the test though. They get harder than that. This is not a good example of most of the questions.

[JoeRedneck 3]

This is the most accurate mock wonderlic I could find,courtesy of our buddies from Ontheclockdraft.com.

Please use your FFToday handle so we can poke fun at your score.

 

 

 

http://2006.ontheclockdraft.com/iqtest.php

[Deadpool 0]

Can't remember where I saw this at, but Jimmie Johnson was asked what he thought the Wonderlic's impact had on NFL prospects. He basically said that it was the absolute last thing that most coaches and GMs looked at when evaluating talent (atleast when he was still in the league).

 

That being said, it would be interesting if we could see Wonderlic scores from past players. Just as a comparison. If I was a talented player with my life going through the circus of about to join the NFL and become instantly rich, studying for a test would be the last thing I would be worried about. That's just my opinion though.

[JoeRedneck 3]

This is the most accurate mock wonderlic I could find,courtesy of our buddies from Ontheclockdraft.com.

Please use your FFToday handle so we can poke fun at your score.

http://2006.ontheclockdraft.com/iqtest.php

 

Also this site has many current and past players scores listed.Many of them are just not big thinkers .

[nobody 2,894]

No, this is just like the one my BIL has. These questions are at the beginning of the test though. They get harder than that. This is not a good example of most of the questions.

 

I only got a 16, and I'm the smartest guy around.

[Deadpool 0]

Madden 2006 has an unofficial wonderlic test you can take.....I got a 31. The questions are basic logic for the most part with some math mixed in. There is no reason anyone with half a brain should score under a 20 unless the are just plain stupid or choke under the pressure of the test......neither of which is a good sign for a QB.....and yes I know Marino scored a 16 and McNabb got a 12 but generally speaking it is a pretty good gage of a guys ability to learn and use information (ie, playbook)

 

 

I understand what you are saying here. But this statement also indicates that the Wonderlic is not that great of a evaluation tool when it comes to Football players. I'm sure it works great in the business world. Learning a playbook dictates that you have good memorazation skills. But even then most NFL QBs have cheat sheets tied to their wrists anyways.

 

The point I'm trying to make here is that this whole Wonderlic thing is pretty much a moot point. It doesn't matter. What matters is what a player does on the field and his work ethic off the field is (conditioning and film study, etc.)

 

I'll use McNabb as an example since we have already brought up his Wonderlic score. But can you imagine if the reason why the Browns picked Tim Couch over McNabb was because of the low Wonderlic score? Now I know that was not the reason. But I'm just saying that wayyyy too much is being read into this.

[Deadpool 0]

On a related note:

From Rotoworld.......

Vince Young's offical Wonderlic Test score is a 15.

It's the higher score of two tests taken and we're uninformed as to his first grade. Marcus Vick bottomed out for the QBs at 11. Oklahoma DT Dusty Dvoracek was the overall leader with a 41. Several players, including the infamous Oklahoma CB Chijioke Onyenegecha, tied for the lowest score at 8. Mar. 18 - 2:28 pm et

Source: ESPNinsider

 

 

 

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On a related note:

From Rotoworld.......

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Wow!! He almost doubled his intelligence