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Vince Young Career Highlight Video (or #1 in any sane mind)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcADew6Ykc...h=vince%20young

 

Vince

 

It's long, but if you hit pause and let if buffer you can appreciate it.

 

1. Vince had 42 less career rushing yards than Reggie (3127 yards on 457 carries v. 3169 yards on 443 carries). It did take Vince 14 more carreer carries, but if you consider that his 32 carreer sacks count as carries and hurt his yardage numbers, he has more yards and a better yard per carry average than Reggie.

 

2. Simms and Applewhite both led their teams to scores on about 25% of the drives that they started, Vince led his team to scores on more than 50% of the drives he started (calculated prior to his senior year, don't have the time to refigure it, but it was his best year, so probably just padded that percentage).

 

Watch the highlight, tell me honestly that he can't read a defense, that pressure either by a defense or because of the importance of the game affects him, tell me honestly that Reggie's highlight video wouldn't be half as long.

 

The Texans will screw this up in a Jordanesque manner, someday people won't believe they passed on Vince.

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I agree - Texand will regret not taking Vince . But right now how can you blame them ? They got a good QB in Carr. You could say they also got a good rb in Davis . If I was Houston I trade down to 2 if I can and I take Mario.

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he can read a college defense but then again, so could Ryan Leaf.....

 

i think hes a better prospect than Leinart due to his athleticism but i cannot say for sure whether either is going to have a great career

i wouldnt fault Houston for passing on him to grab Bush as they have already decided on their QB and it isnt Young, i dont think they will regret that either

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I'm not saying that Bush will be Sam Bowie, but even if he turns out to be Hakeem he won't be Jordan, whereas Vince very well could be - and he's from Houston. I really liked David Carr in college (should have won the Heisman, his one year stats were better than Harrington's Junior and Senior year added together, instead not invited because he didn't rent out a building-sized add in NY) and I respect his toughness, but I think it's pretty safe to say he can not carry the Texans. If anyone can step in and carry a team (even, shudder, New Orleans) it is Vince. Don't know if you watched the video, but imagine if USCN had been showing those highlights 24/7, think he might have won the Heisman?

I watched Vince lose in the semi-finals his senior year, he did everything, but his team had zero defense (finally he lined up at safety and himself stopped the other team's last two drives) so he lost, but I knew he would blow up college ball. Yes at that time, all he had done was proven he could destroy high school defenses and right now all he's done is proven he can destroy college defenses, the Texans will regret this for the next 15 years.

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first off, i didn't watch the video. i think a lot of people have reservations about vince because he is not the prototypical nfl qb. i'm sure his highlight reel is impressive but what people can do in college doesn't translate to the nfl in varying degrees. vince definitely has the potential to be an mvp type player but he also brings more potential risk and headaches than some other players.

 

i compare him to vick in many ways. that might be unfair to vince, but it might also be unfair to vick. is it just a coincidence that atl's wr's have all been bad since vick has been there? maybe it isn't them? maybe it's him? but that is more from a fantasy perspective.

 

i do think that even though vick's passing #'s are subpar; his playing style can translate to wins which is all that really matters (except for us ff'ers where winning is meaningless).

 

i feel like atl has had to mold their team around vick's special abilities and i don't know if some teams want to have to do that or if they have confidence that they can do that well. there also seems to be a higher risk of injury to a qb that relies so much on running the ball and also a higher need for a running qb to be closer to 100% healthy in order to be effective. most other qb's could be effective with reduced mobility but with vick and vince, mobility is their bread and butter.

 

and then what if they did get hurt? you bring in the backup who is the polar opposite type player of them? after you have molded the team around their special abilities?

 

i see vince as high risk/ high reward and i think many teams want a lower risk player. everyone wants a great player but everyone equally doesn't want a bust either.

 

so you watched vince in high school? come on man. do you really think you can have an objective opinion on the matter? lol.

 

also, i'm not completely sure about this but i don't think sacks count as rushing attempts or negative rushing yards. he can still have rushes for negative yards but only if it's not considered a sack. i'm pretty sure this is how it is in the nfl. it could be different in college though.

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<<<Just watched the video. WOW. It brought back memories of what makes Vince...Vince. Alot of BS has happened to knock this guy down since his last game where he single handedly WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! I know it's the point of a highlight video to show the HIGHlights but Vince Young is rediculous.

 

I for one think he is in NO WAY like Michael Vick, atleast as far as passing is concerned. Vince Young is way more decisive, just as elusive, and unlike Michael Vick...can throw on the run with precision, on strikes AND touch passes. If anything he's probably more so like McNabb, but probably even better than him coming out of college.

 

Bottomline is that his on the field play is nothing short of unbelievable. I'm glad from a fantasy football perspective that all this garbage about a wonderlic, his family friend being his agent, and reading defenses nonsense is the most recent thing in people's minds. Because I will gladly reap the benefits of them passing on him because of it, just as the NFL team that drafts him will.

 

I just hope it ain't the Jets. :ninja: All them holes. I don't know if even Vince can help them out.

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YA YA YA... Every one keeps telling me is that Vick will come around in his passing game. That was two years ago. Young will be the same way. He'll run and run but when it comes down too passing :lol:

Running QB's will get you so far but name the last one that won a Super Bowl. Young is the only one I can think of.

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Vince Young will make a fine running back in the NFL. He could turn out to be a better RB than Vick is. The only drawback is that he is as dumb as a stone.

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Kordell Stewart > Vince Young

 

Low blow dude. Kordell was never any good. He got more chances than anyone deserved. You guys know my stance on Vince. I am glad to see some of you taking a stand and will be eating crow. You have been told.

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first off, i didn't watch the video. i think a lot of people have reservations about vince because he is not the prototypical nfl qb. i'm sure his highlight reel is impressive but what people can do in college doesn't translate to the nfl in varying degrees. vince definitely has the potential to be an mvp type player but he also brings more potential risk and headaches than some other players.

 

i compare him to vick in many ways. that might be unfair to vince, but it might also be unfair to vick. is it just a coincidence that atl's wr's have all been bad since vick has been there? maybe it isn't them? maybe it's him? but that is more from a fantasy perspective.

 

i do think that even though vick's passing #'s are subpar; his playing style can translate to wins which is all that really matters (except for us ff'ers where winning is meaningless).

 

i feel like atl has had to mold their team around vick's special abilities and i don't know if some teams want to have to do that or if they have confidence that they can do that well. there also seems to be a higher risk of injury to a qb that relies so much on running the ball and also a higher need for a running qb to be closer to 100% healthy in order to be effective. most other qb's could be effective with reduced mobility but with vick and vince, mobility is their bread and butter.

 

and then what if they did get hurt? you bring in the backup who is the polar opposite type player of them? after you have molded the team around their special abilities?

 

i see vince as high risk/ high reward and i think many teams want a lower risk player. everyone wants a great player but everyone equally doesn't want a bust either.

 

so you watched vince in high school? come on man. do you really think you can have an objective opinion on the matter? lol.

 

also, i'm not completely sure about this but i don't think sacks count as rushing attempts or negative rushing yards. he can still have rushes for negative yards but only if it's not considered a sack. i'm pretty sure this is how it is in the nfl. it could be different in college though.

 

1. Watch the video - you will see 10 passes that Vick couldn't make in college and still can't

2. Vince is going to be a more dangerous QB in the pros than Vick because defenses will have to respect both his arm and his legs

3. Vince is also very durable, never missed a game but also doesn't let defense players get squared-up hits on him very often

4. People at Pompeii probably were not very objective regarding their opinion that being that close to a volcano sucked, does that mean their opinion was invalid? My reason for mentioning high school was that someone had said he hadn't proven anything against NFL teams yet, back then he hadn't proven anything against college teams - but you could see that the dominance could translate.

 

Toughness, heart, leadership, accuracy, speed, agility, skill, touch trade that for a 40 on the wonderlic if you like, not me.

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I watched the video, and I can say with all honesty that while I was impressed with his talent, I saw alot of throws he made on the run that if he tried to make with NFL defenses, they would get picked off 50% of the time. I'm not going to compare him to anyone, but I am still not convinced he will be able to be the type of decision maker at QB that will lead his team to a SuperBowl. He will certainly be exciting to watch, he has too much talent not to be, but that doesn't always translate into playoff success.

 

I could very well be wrong, and i'll gladly own up to it if I am. Even after watching that video though, I stand firmly behind the notion that I don't want him to wind up on the Jets. I am starting to warm to him fantasy wise, but i'd like to see the Jets go in a different direction. I want a title, not a QB with a highlight reel.

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Low blow dude. Kordell was never any good. He got more chances than anyone deserved. You guys know my stance on Vince. I am glad to see some of you taking a stand and will be eating crow. You have been told.

 

Kordell was the QB of a team that made his conference championship game, Vince Young will NEVER do that.

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