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OB1 last won the day on December 15 2020

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  1. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    Perception /= truth or fact. I'm talking about accepting facts, not perceiving guilt. You are doing a great job of demonstrating that you base your view on perception and belief rather than facts.
  2. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    Yes, it's crazy to base your view of facts and the truth on how other people are acting. That means you are being manipulated one way or another. Facts are facts, truth is truth. They don't change based on whether your "enemy" wins or not. If it does then you are not living in reality.
  3. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    Think about what you just said. You are saying that accepting the truth (in my hypothetical of course, don't want to upset cult45's fragile reality) in any way would rely on how your perceived enemies are acting. That's craziness.
  4. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    More than 1 judge out of 89 not throwing out the bogus claims almost immediately would be a good start. When republican judges, 39 of them appointed by Trump btw, dismiss these cases with scathing commentary not common among judges I tend to doubt the veracity of the claims. I couldn't give a flying crap what CNN, Newsmax, MSNBC, FOXnews, or OAN think of it all. Give me the facts, and facts are what rule in the court of law. I trust the judicial system to at the least hear the arguments of fraud as it pertains to such an important moment in our history. They haven't though, they've thrown them out quickly in almost ever instance. How can you possibly ignore that? Trump was claiming fraud BEFORE the election. if it was so clear, and so evident then we wouldn't be here 41 days later still talking about what evidence could possibly come to light. It would be one thing for there to have been a factual claim straight away that was being debated and discussed in court with steadfast witnesses backed up by documented proof. This was so very obviously a claim that has been searching for evidence from the very start. At this point it would take extraordinary evidence to convince me that the most extraordinary crime in the history of the United States has been committed when the only thing that backs it up is the extraordinary liar in chief's bogus claims. Show some proof and talk about facts or shut the fock up and accept Biden as the next President.
  5. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    Serious question for cult45. What would it take for you to believe your dear leader lost fair and square? Would anything short of Trump himself admitting it be enough? Obviously the egomaniac in chief isn't going to do that so what else would be enough evidence (or more appropriately lack of evidence) for you?
  6. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    Are you and drobeski going to cry?
  7. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    If fraud is proven in Michigan machines then audits of similar medicines should be done. This isn't hard. It is my understanding that such audits have been done in certain places. Also Georgia, that uses the boogeyman dominion machines, did a hand recount and Biden still won. Inconvenient facts for the Venezuelan algorithm conspiracy theorists.
  8. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit I see. I said that if it was only proven in Michigan it wouldn't be enough to overturn the election. It would have to be proven in enough counties/states where the votes that were effected would overturn 37 electoral votes to give Trump the presidency. Nowhere did I say that it shouldn't be investigated or audited in that case.
  9. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    Link to where I said that?
  10. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    I'm pretty confident that the type of widespread fraud that would have overturned Biden's victory didn't happen. If it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it did, I'll accept it and condemn those who perpetrated it. When it is proven again (and again and again) that these claims are bullshit will cult45 do the same? Not bloody likely.
  11. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    I don't have to. See in this country the burden of proof is on the accuser. Supposedly there is an audit on Thursday. Let's see what happens. Until then it's still just allegation. More importantly though, unless it is proven that not only was there fraud there, but it is also proven in enough counties around the country to effectively change 37 electoral votes the election results will still stand. It would certainly be alarming if it was shown to be intentional and true.
  12. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    No, I'm telling you how things work. Biden will be elected President. There is no chance in hell that the House of Representatives (the cowards in the Senate might try) will overturn what is now officially the will of the people no matter how much you want to believe it could happen.
  13. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    You are delusional. Biden was elected, there has been zero credible evidence presented to dispute that. The bullshit brought before 80+ judges, 39 of them appointed by Trump, has been thrown out with prejudice. Something in the neighborhood of 45 states have audited their elections and found no evidence of irregularities (3 that didn't voted for Trump and one was Nebraska that spit their votes). The Department of Homeland Security and Trump's own AG and DOJ have said the election was secure. There will be no French Revolution here and Congress most certainly will not hand the election to Trump out of fear. If they did that they would be installing a non-elected dictator and THEN you would see a revolution from the 81 million that voted against Trump (which to be clear is why Biden won, because he wasn't Trump).
  14. OB1

    *Official 2020 Election Thread*

    Yeah, I totally forgot about the part of the constitution that says if enough people protest just elect their would be king instead.