swamp dog 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Once you have a concussion, you are proned to more. Either way, I'm glad the Lions spent a pick trying to catch up to the Bears, and still are miles behind in the LB dept. Maybe in 3-4 drafts you'll have put together a defense as good as Angelo's. Oh, who am I kidding. you'd bash them no matter what. i didn't read what you had here. figured it was irriational and negative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted April 30, 2006 Yes, thats the ONE concussion i thought he had. Thats nice you provide all those links (about the same game), but i think you answered the question about his "concussions" in your own post. I dont know where these "several concussions last year" came from. Most of them were mild concussions which probalby werent even addressed. You say you don't know where they came from? Then you say they were mild concussions. I am confused? And is Coach Bobby Bowden not a credible enough source for you? Does the guy have to be diagnosed and taken out during a game to count? Is it impossible some of these concussions occured during practice, drills, etc.? http://www.webmd.com/search/search_results...=Mozilla-search Another bad pick by detroit in the first round. What is the over under on games played, started, and years in the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShaneFalco 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Another bad pick by detroit in the first round. Ah yes, the definitive statement before the guy has even played a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 30, 2006 You say you don't know where they came from?Then you say they were mild concussions. I am confused? And is Coach Bobby Bowden not a credible enough source for you? Does the guy have to be diagnosed and taken out during a game to count? Is it impossible some of these concussions occured during practice, drills, etc.? http://www.webmd.com/search/search_results...=Mozilla-search Another bad pick by detroit in the first round. What is the over under on games played, started, and years in the NFL. and yet greenway wasn't anywhere on marinelli's draft board. hmm... i'd certainly be more concerned if i were you with the train wreck that was the vikings draft. but that's me Ah yes, the definitive statement before the guy has even played a game. rod said sims was in the top-5 of ALL players they scouted as per consistentcy on game-day film. but maybe the battery of docs that checked him out--both in detroit and around the nfl--should have just dropped a dime and given lunatick a call. he'd set them straight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted April 30, 2006 and yet greenway wasn't anywhere on marinelli's draft board. hmm... i'd certainly be more concerned if i were you with the train wreck that was the vikings draft. but that's me rod said sims was in the top-5 of ALL players they scouted as per consistentcy on game-day film. Swamp, If you go looking in the Minnesota thread. You will see that I am among other Viking fans frustrated by the reaching for picks in the 2nd rounds. I even went to the point of wanting Tice back. Sure they may have been slow at gettin picks in. But I don't think they ever stretched as much for picks as this crew did this weekend. Overall Detroit appears to be better value picks. but I am tempted to sig bet that Sims will be concussed this season. Tempted that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Swamp, If you go looking in the Minnesota thread. You will see that I am among other Viking fans frustrated by the reaching for picks in the 2nd rounds. I even went to the point of wanting Tice back. Sure they may have been slow at gettin picks in. But I don't think they ever stretched as much for picks as this crew did this weekend. Overall Detroit appears to be better value picks. but I am tempted to sig bet that Sims will be concussed this season. Tempted that is. well, as i don't wish any player on any team injury--including those of rival nfcn teams--that's a bad karma bet i don't care to make. and i know you agree with me on that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted May 1, 2006 well, as i don't wish any player on any team injury--including those of rival nfcn teams--that's a bad karma bet i don't care to make. and i know you agree with me on that Agreed, I wasn't bashing Sims cause he is now a Lion. Was a player, if there at 17, I didn't want the vikes to take. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timinator 0 Posted May 1, 2006 I thought Simms was a bit of a reach at the Lions' pick, but we'll see. The guy is fearless and can hit. Of course, that may just be his undoing. The Packers draft impressed me. Picking strong guys, smart guys, guys who can play in weather and pretty much just getting a lot of guys. I hate to see Walker go, but how that trade went down was beautiful--about as good of a trade as I could have ever hoped. I wish my Hawk jersey was gonna be 57 instead of 50, but that's cool. Now, for some FA rookie kickers. The Vikings' second round just confused me. Did you guy's hire Mike Sherman or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 40 Posted May 1, 2006 and yet greenway wasn't anywhere on marinelli's draft board. hmm... Thought Millen was the GM. Am I missing something? Or is Marinelli now in charge of the draft? If so, why is his draft board superior to anyone's as it's his first year drafting? You are right, hmmm.... If Greenway was not even on the Laydowns board, the whole scouting staff needs to learn how to say "do you want fries with that?" Not even in the 7th RD? BTW, do you serve sandwiches during draft day or empty wastebaskets. Or, do you have some other way to have access to Laydowns draft board? My point is, please quit making stupid statements or expect to get ripped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Thought Millen was the GM. Am I missing something? Or is Marinelli now in charge of the draft? If so, why is his draft board superior to anyone's as it's his first year drafting? You are right, hmmm.... If Greenway was not even on the Laydowns board, the whole scouting staff needs to learn how to say "do you want fries with that?" Not even in the 7th RD? BTW, do you serve sandwiches during draft day or empty wastebaskets. Or, do you have some other way to have access to Laydowns draft board? My point is, please quit making stupid statements or expect to get ripped. marinelli had significant input in the draft--significant. he said sims was in the top-5 players of all players they studied on film as per having the most consistently good game-day film (performance, effort, attitude). for whatever reason, marinelli didn't have greenway on his list, didn't ever consider him. for whatever reason, he had sims rated higher than huff and the lions would have taken sims even over huff (not post-draft hype: this was reported as early as friday). that doesn't prove he's right and the vikings are wrong...but argue with marinelli about it, not me the lions, packers, and vikes all took steps to improve their defenses this weekend...though the vikings could have done more and badly misfired on their 3 second-round picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted May 1, 2006 marinelli had significant input in the draft--significant. he said sims was in the top-5 players of all players they studied on film as per having the most consistently good game-day film (performance, effort, attitude). for whatever reason, marinelli didn't have greenway on his list, didn't ever consider him. for whatever reason, he had sims rated higher than huff and the lions would have taken sims even over huff (not post-draft hype: this was reported as early as friday). argue with marinelli about it the lions, packers, and vikes all took steps to improve their defenses this weekend...though the vikings could have done more and badly misfired on their 3 second-round picks. coach / GM speak after the draft. Everyone defends their picks and claims it was the guy they wanted once they selected them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted May 1, 2006 coach / GM speak after the draft. Everyone defends their picks and claims it was the guy they wanted once they selected them. walt, it was reported by killer last friday afternoon that the lions had sims rated higher than huff--this is 24 hours before the draft. i'm not saying i agree with that assessment or that it's the right one, but there clearly was evidence of the lions draft board being hawk, sims, and huff in that order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,024 Posted May 1, 2006 The only serious blunder of the day so far is the poor Bills. Cromartie was a reach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted May 1, 2006 mortensen claimed on detroit radio this morning that the cards would have taken sims at 10, and if not, the rams definitely would have taken him at 11. he loves the pick. he also said pitt drafted a safety with a history of concussions by the name of troy somebody a couple of years ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted May 1, 2006 mortensen claimed on detroit radio this morning that the cards would have taken sims at 10, and if not, the rams definitely would have taken him at 11. he loves the pick. he also said pitt drafted a safety with a history of concussions by the name of troy somebody a couple of years ago Mort said! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Mort said! that sort of info isn't hard to obtain after the draft. teams have nothing to hide after the fact. the final mocks heading into the draft on friday had sims going anywhere from 7 to the early teens. the data supports these assertions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted May 1, 2006 the lions, packers, and vikes all took steps to improve their defenses this weekend...though the vikings could have done more and badly misfired on their 3 second-round picks. Tell me about it. I could have lived with reach for the QB. But the reach for Cook and then trading away the rest of you picks in the end. I wanted Hodges in the second round. Having both Greenway and Hodges I think would have had value for this season if they both panned out. About the only good thing is the number of UDFA they signed imediately after the draft. Was almost like they got rid of their picks for the last few rounds on purpose so it wouldn't distract them from signing as many UDFAs on Sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
