Real draft going on right now

[football_scooter 0]

I think you just officially jumped the shark.

 

CTaylor is a cash money option, and the only reason he wasn't taken in the 2nd round is because people are unsure of the Minny offense.

 

IMO, he could have provided late 1st round value with his tremendous upside as a feature back, whereas with Dunn or Droughns you know exactly what you're getting - in Dunn, a speed guy who either takes it to the house or sits on the sidelines watching someone vulture his TDs, or in Droughns a yardage guy who won't score more then 5 TDs.

 

CTaylor was the pick. And over DJax? Hey, i like DJax, but the knee scares me and you could take many other WRs who will potentially put up comparable #s (Derick Mason, Plaxico, some of the 3rd year crop, etc)

 

It's fonzie on water skiis, baby. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

I think you just officially jumped the shark.

 

CTaylor is a cash money option, and the only reason he wasn't taken in the 2nd round is because people are unsure of the Minny offense.

 

IMO, he could have provided late 1st round value with his tremendous upside as a feature back, whereas with Dunn or Droughns you know exactly what you're getting - in Dunn, a speed guy who either takes it to the house or sits on the sidelines watching someone vulture his TDs, or in Droughns a yardage guy who won't score more then 5 TDs.

 

CTaylor was the pick. And over DJax? Hey, i like DJax, but the knee scares me and you could take many other WRs who will potentially put up comparable #s (Derick Mason, Plaxico, some of the 3rd year crop, etc)

 

It's fonzie on water skiis, baby. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

 

 

Whoa. Why are you so convinced that Taylor is going to be solid? This is May and Taylor has done nothing so far to warrant that high of a pick. However, the Jackson pick in May is safer because all signs point to a healthy knee and he's the outright #1 in Seattle which is worth a lot.

[SoloMatisse 0]

Like I said before, you have a decent argument. Also, I was under the impression that Randy was 27, not 29. 29 is still far from over the hill for a wr in the NFL. I may not discard some of my points as quickly as you but that's your choice.....your opinion.

 

As I stated before, I like this trade for "value" sake. I think it was wise, especially for a draft in May.

 

Bottom line Solo.....can you guarantee me that Fitzgerald is going to outperform Moss this year? If not, then it seems to me the trade was pretty good.

 

 

I cant guarantee anything other you and I will both live and die. In FF, we dont live in a world of guarantees....we live in a world largely of logic and percentages. Having an eye for talent also helps. These guys are both talented, so Im just playing the percentages here while applying a little logic. But I fully respect your thoughts....its why we play the game.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

I cant guarantee anything other you and I will both live and die. In FF, we dont live in a world of guarantees....we live in a world largely of logic and percentages. Having an eye for talent also helps. These guys are both talented, so Im just playing the percentages here while applying a little logic. But I fully respect your thoughts....its why we play the game.

 

 

"Everybody dies...but not everybody lives"

 

Oh yeah...don't forget taxes.

[Sweetness_34 0]

Updated:

 

1.01 LJ

1.02 LT

1.03 Shaun Alexander

1.04 Edge

1.05 Steven Jackson

1.06 Tiki Barber (my pick)

1.07 Portis

1.08 Lamont Jordan

1.09 Rudi Johnson

1.10 Caddy

1.11 Ronnie Brown

1.12 Mcgahee

2.01 Westbrook

2.02 Dom Davis

2.03 Steve Smith

2.04 Chad Johnson

2.05 Peyton Manning

2.06 Torry Holt

2.07 TO

2.08 Fitzgerald

2.09 Harrison

2.10 Randy Moss (my pick after trade down from 2.07 => got up from 3.05=>3.06 & 4.10=>5.06 too)

2.11 Boldin

2.12 Julius Jones

3.01 Antonio Gates

3.02 Reggie Bush

3.03 Reggie Wayne

3.04 Jamal Lewis

3.05 Darrell Jackson (My Pick)

3.06 Chris Chambers

3.07 Chester Taylor

3.08 Hines Ward

 

My next picks: 4.07 and 4.10

 

Hoping and praying that one out of Dunn, Droughns, FWP falls to me into the 4th round

 

Otherwise I go the Fred Taylor, Ahman Green, Curtis Martin, Thomas Jones/Benson, Addai/Rhodes, Dillon/Maroney route

 

PS: Everyone remember this is a PPR league. Many WRs will outscore some/many of these RBs and we have a 3 WR, 2 RB starting roster requirement

[Phurfur 70]

Updated:

 

My next picks: 4.07 and 4.10

 

Hoping and praying that one out of Dunn, Droughns, FWP falls to me into the 4th round

 

Otherwise I go the Fred Taylor, Ahman Green, Curtis Martin, Thomas Jones/Benson, Addai/Rhodes, Dillon/Maroney route

 

PS: Everyone remember this is a PPR league. Many WRs will outscore some/many of these RBs and we have a 3 WR, 2 RB starting roster requirement

 

Don't forget about Willie Parker!

[Sweetness_34 0]

Don't forget about Willie Parker!

 

I mentioned FWP = Fast Willie Parker

[Phurfur 70]

I mentioned FWP = Fast Willie Parker

 

I missed that. He would be my first pick out of the 3.

[football_scooter 0]

Whoa. Why are you so convinced that Taylor is going to be solid? This is May and Taylor has done nothing so far to warrant that high of a pick.

 

Uh, nothing except being a feature back in an offense that will lean on the run, as compared to the other RBBC guys, or huge age/injury risks you'll likely see at 4.07. A feature back at 3.07 is a "high pick"? I think that was a steal. That guy now has Portis/Holt/CTaylor - great team so far. Much better than your Tiki/Moss/DJax by comparison.

 

I think you blew it by going WR here. No way Dunn or FWP make it to you. Doubtful Dillon or Droughns do either. That's a LOT of picks between here and then (14, to be exact) and I am certain you'll be taking CMart or AGreen and praying for miracles - health, team around them, etc.

 

No offense intended, this is all one man's opinion, but by not taking a RB at 3.06 when your next pick was so far away, you totally screwed the pooch. Which RB is a personal preferance, but the pick should have been a RB for sure. Supply & demand. The WR you coulda taken at 4.07 will be only a slight dropoff from DJax, whereas the RB you will now be forced to grab at 4.07 is going to be the suck.

 

Good luck, but I am not overly impressed with your choice here...barring some mid-to-late round gold, I don't see you competing in this league.

[Sweetness_34 0]

Uh, nothing except being a feature back in an offense that will lean on the run, as compared to the other RBBC guys, or huge age/injury risks you'll likely see at 4.07. A feature back at 3.07 is a "high pick"? I think that was a steal. That guy now has Portis/Holt/CTaylor - great team so far. Much better than your Tiki/Moss/DJax by comparison.

 

I think you blew it by going WR here. No way Dunn or FWP make it to you. Doubtful Dillon or Droughns do either. That's a LOT of picks between here and then (14, to be exact) and I am certain you'll be taking CMart or AGreen and praying for miracles - health, team around them, etc.

 

No offense intended, this is all one man's opinion, but by not taking a RB at 3.06 when your next pick was so far away, you totally screwed the pooch. Which RB is a personal preferance, but the pick should have been a RB for sure. Supply & demand. The WR you coulda taken at 4.07 will be only a slight dropoff from DJax, whereas the RB you will now be forced to grab at 4.07 is going to be the suck.

 

Good luck, but I am not overly impressed with your choice here...barring some mid-to-late round gold, I don't see you competing in this league.

 

I will actually be very comfortable going with a Thomas Jones/Benson or a Ahman Green/Poop/Gado combo as my #2 RB. It is a 20 round draft......and I do intend to pick up one of the rookie RBs (De Angelo, Maroney, Addai) that might give me production later in the year.

 

Also, we start 3 WR and 2 RB in this PPR (no flex). So, all I need is to take a chance on 3 of the remaining backs in the remainder of the draft and hope one of them turns out solid (so while people are picking their #2 and 3 WRs, I will be stocking up on RBs with huge upside).

[Fumbleweed 547]

Good luck, but I am not overly impressed with your choice here...barring some mid-to-late round gold, I don't see you competing in this league.

 

I think it's too early to make this determination. Still lots of picks to be made.........

[SoloMatisse 0]

Sorry, but taking Darrell Jackson with the 29th overall pick just doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me. That pick came totally out of leftfield, or did I miss you mentioning him earlier?

[Fumbleweed 547]

Sorry, but taking Darrell Jackson with the 29th overall pick just doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me. That pick came totally out of leftfield, or did I miss you mentioning him earlier?

 

It's a PPR league with 3 WRs starting....that makes the pick a little more understandable, IMO.

[Sweetness_34 0]

Sorry, but taking Darrell Jackson with the 29th overall pick just doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me. That pick came totally out of leftfield, or did I miss you mentioning him earlier?

 

The RBs were just way too equal for me to take one.

 

I see Ahman Green, Thomas Jones, Fred Taylor and even Chris Brown doing as well as some of these picked (Droughns, Chester Taylor etc).

 

They all have their issues, but I rather pick the sure thing at WR (and DJax was great last year when he played, and his schedule is cream puff again this year - NFC West, AFC West, NFC North). And now I will roll the dice on the RBs and hope to get one.....I need one #2 RB......I rather get quality at the top 3 picks.

[jocstrap 8]

Man Sweetness - I think you have drafted the ALL SENIOR LEAGUE TEAM. These guys are old. Insert smile face with grey hair and a cane.

[Sweetness_34 0]

It's a PPR league with 3 WRs starting....that makes the pick a little more understandable, IMO.

 

Thank you. I ran the #s and some of these WRs produce far more than the RBs that were taken. Also, I rather take the 7th RB of this tier of RBs than take the 1st RB and get the 7th WR left. I just do not see a Kevin JOnes or a Reuben Droughns do any better than a Willie Parker or a Ahman Green or even a Fred Taylor (assuming I handcuff the pick of course with a Gado/Najeh and Greg Jones)

 

Hell, I can still take the Dominic Rhodes/Addai combo, and one of them will do as well as the RB I did not pick.

[SoloMatisse 0]

Sure thing? Youve now drafted two WRs coming off injury riddled seasons. Im missing the approach.

[Fumbleweed 547]

Man Sweetness - I think you have drafted the ALL SENIOR LEAGUE TEAM. These guys are old. Insert smile face with grey hair and a cane.

 

Are Moss and Jackson really that old? They're both in their 20s...........

[football_scooter 0]

I will actually be very comfortable going with a Thomas Jones/Benson or a Ahman Green/Poop/Gado combo as my #2 RB. It is a 20 round draft......and I do intend to pick up one of the rookie RBs (De Angelo, Maroney, Addai) that might give me production later in the year.

 

Also, we start 3 WR and 2 RB in this PPR (no flex). So, all I need is to take a chance on 3 of the remaining backs in the remainder of the draft and hope one of them turns out solid (so while people are picking their #2 and 3 WRs, I will be stocking up on RBs with huge upside).

 

But as I suggested, you lose already, regardless because you could have had a RB2 with much higher ceiling and without spending multiple picks while not taking much of a hit at WR2 from it.

 

That's the point you're missing here...

 

Then you could have used your 4.10 and 5.0x picks to take your upside RBs while using the 4.07 to get that WR2 - a Derrick Mason type who is still the #1 WR in what should be an improved Baltimore offense.

 

I think you're using the "PPR/3 WR" as a way of justifying this pick, and to me it doesn't wash. I don't see DJax as being much more productive regardless of the format, and there are a ton more WRs out there to be had later than there are RBs. At this point in the draft you're looking at 14 picks between your 3.06 and 4.07 with 1 of the 14 already being a RB...I'd be willing to bet that the 4th round has a run on RBs, with at least 6 of the teams picking ahead of you grabbing RBs...what you end up with won't be pretty. And while I understand what you're saying about being happy with the ugly choices, I disagree that you'll get anywhere near the value of players for how you'll have to do it.

 

Instead of using your picks RB-WR-WR where you have "sure things", you now need to spend 2 picks to get a quality RB2, and then another 2 picks to get a RB3 - and your fellow leaguemates will be paying close attention and when you call out "Tatum Bell" you can bet that before it gets back to you, someone else calls out "Ron Dayne", etc.

 

So IMO, the PPR and 3 WR aspects are irrelevant when compared to the facts that you'll now need to use 2 picks to get one position (RB) and won't see much of an increase in WR value to make it worth it.

 

One man's opinion.

[MudDawgs4Life 6]

Yes folks you can call me a puss, loser, whatever but I went with more of a sure thing here......I looked at the rosters of the folks drafting ahead of me until my next pick and I do not see more than 6 RBs being taken.....so there is a chance someone I still like at RB2 will fall to me in the 4th (otherwise I will load up on RBBC folks and get one freaking RB2 out of it)

 

I picked Darrel Jackson.....very good offense, very good QB, solid OL, freaking easy schedule (NFC West, AFC West and NFC North....are ya kidding me???) and the main target for Hasselback ..... in a PPR league, he will be gold (bad knee notwithstanding )

 

Wish me luck folks.....I took the path less followed.....I got a knot in my stomach right now but I hope to get it right when it is all said and done

 

PS: I considered Chambers too but the thought of Culpepper being out and Suckington throwing the rock in a new offense, I passed.

 

=========

 

Updated:

 

1.01 LJ

1.02 LT

1.03 Shaun Alexander

1.04 Edge

1.05 Steven Jackson

1.06 Tiki Barber (my pick)

1.07 Portis

1.08 Lamont Jordan

1.09 Rudi Johnson

1.10 Caddy

1.11 Ronnie Brown

1.12 Mcgahee

2.01 Westbrook

2.02 Dom Davis

2.03 Steve Smith

2.04 Chad Johnson

2.05 Peyton Manning

2.06 Torry Holt

2.07 TO

2.08 Fitzgerald

2.09 Harrison

2.10 Randy Moss (my pick after trade down from 2.07 => got up from 3.05=>3.06 & 4.10=>5.06 too)

2.11 Boldin

2.12 Julius Jones

3.01 Antonio Gates

3.02 Reggie Bush

3.03 Reggie Wayne

3.04 Jamal Lewis

3.05 Darrell Jackson (My Pick)

3.06 Chris Chambers

 

sweetness, not into your djax pick at all. besides the fact that chambers is better, the drop in RB is much worse than the drop in WR from now until your next pick. you wait on a WR you get one of these guys: hines, plax, santana moss, javon walker, ROY, andre johnson, or maybe even DJAX would still have been there. i know it's a ppr league, but all these guys should be 80 grab receivers, give or take. the difference might be an average of 1 point per week - which is nothing.

 

on the other hand, you passed up legit featured backs. droughns or chester was the pick, not a chance those guys are still available.

 

Dunn sucks - talk about not scoring TDs. FWP won't get the red zone touches. Corey Dillon is old and that will be a RBBC by week 3 or Maroney will just take over the job. And you can't touch Jones/Benson in a May draft, you just can't. The question marks just keep piling up around these RBs after Drougns and Chester. I would have gone Chester. Taking unproven RBs here with a ton of upside is what you're supposed to do in the 3rd round. Did you pass on LaDanian in the third round in 2001 because he was "unproven?" Did you pass on LaMont Jordan last year because he was "unproven?" Your 3rd round pick is supposed to be a guy you think can play like a 2nd rounder or even late 1st rounder. I don't think you found that in DJAX.

[Ilov80s 0]

I like Tiki and Moss. I liked Chambers over DJax, but thats a wash in a sense. You should still come away with a good RB. I really like Curtis Martin. Ofcourse he keeps with the theme of a veteran team, but before being hurt last year- he was on pace for another 1000 yard season and 6 TDs. They drafted arguably the 2 best offensive linemen in the draft and Pennington might stay healthy this year. Remember in 2004, Martin put up 1942 yards and 14 TDs.

[Sweetness_34 0]

But as I suggested, you lose already, regardless because you could have had a RB2 with much higher ceiling and without spending multiple picks while not taking much of a hit at WR2 from it.

 

That's the point you're missing here...

 

Then you could have used your 4.10 and 5.0x picks to take your upside RBs while using the 4.07 to get that WR2 - a Derrick Mason type who is still the #1 WR in what should be an improved Baltimore offense.

 

I think you're using the "PPR/3 WR" as a way of justifying this pick, and to me it doesn't wash. I don't see DJax as being much more productive regardless of the format, and there are a ton more WRs out there to be had later than there are RBs. At this point in the draft you're looking at 14 picks between your 3.06 and 4.07 with 1 of the 14 already being a RB...I'd be willing to bet that the 4th round has a run on RBs, with at least 6 of the teams picking ahead of you grabbing RBs...what you end up with won't be pretty. And while I understand what you're saying about being happy with the ugly choices, I disagree that you'll get anywhere near the value of players for how you'll have to do it.

 

Instead of using your picks RB-WR-WR where you have "sure things", you now need to spend 2 picks to get a quality RB2, and then another 2 picks to get a RB3 - and your fellow leaguemates will be paying close attention and when you call out "Tatum Bell" you can bet that before it gets back to you, someone else calls out "Ron Dayne", etc.

 

So IMO, the PPR and 3 WR aspects are irrelevant when compared to the facts that you'll now need to use 2 picks to get one position (RB) and won't see much of an increase in WR value to make it worth it.

 

One man's opinion.

 

Point taken scooter, but I think I will be ok. I have always managed to get a RB2 deeper into drafts (last year - FWP, Mike Anderson etc) .... I will certainly let you know how I do as the year progresses.

 

Also, if you are railing on me, this other guy (who did the trade with me to give me my 2 4th round picks), he traded out of 1.03 (gave up on Shaun Alexander).....and now he has picked as his first 3 picks - Holt, TO and Chambers..... ....and he is in my division

 

 

 

sweetness, not into your djax pick at all. besides the fact that chambers is better, the drop in RB is much worse than the drop in WR from now until your next pick. you wait on a WR you get one of these guys: hines, plax, santana moss, javon walker, ROY, andre johnson, or maybe even DJAX would still have been there. i know it's a ppr league, but all these guys should be 80 grab receivers, give or take. the difference might be an average of 1 point per week - which is nothing.

 

on the other hand, you passed up legit featured backs. droughns or chester was the pick, not a chance those guys are still available.

 

Dunn sucks - talk about not scoring TDs. FWP won't get the red zone touches. Corey Dillon is old and that will be a RBBC by week 3 or Maroney will just take over the job. And you can't touch Jones/Benson in a May draft, you just can't. The question marks just keep piling up around these RBs after Drougns and Chester. I would have gone Chester. Taking unproven RBs here with a ton of upside is what you're supposed to do in the 3rd round. Did you pass on LaDanian in the third round in 2001 because he was "unproven?" Did you pass on LaMont Jordan last year because he was "unproven?" Your 3rd round pick is supposed to be a guy you think can play like a 2nd rounder or even late 1st rounder. I don't think you found that in DJAX.

 

Mud my man - Just like Dunn and FWP, Droughns does not score TDs either (he had 2 last year and Dunn had 3). Also, how do you know Chester Taylor will last a season when he has never done it? Also, Fason and Moore could make it a RBBC too, not to mention the fact that I just do not see that offense being good in it's first year.

[football_scooter 0]

sweetness, not into your djax pick at all. besides the fact that chambers is better, the drop in RB is much worse than the drop in WR from now until your next pick. you wait on a WR you get one of these guys: hines, plax, santana moss, javon walker, ROY, andre johnson, or maybe even DJAX would still have been there. i know it's a ppr league, but all these guys should be 80 grab receivers, give or take. the difference might be an average of 1 point per week - which is nothing.

 

on the other hand, you passed up legit featured backs. droughns or chester was the pick, not a chance those guys are still available.

 

Dunn sucks - talk about not scoring TDs. FWP won't get the red zone touches. Corey Dillon is old and that will be a RBBC by week 3 or Maroney will just take over the job. And you can't touch Jones/Benson in a May draft, you just can't. The question marks just keep piling up around these RBs after Drougns and Chester. I would have gone Chester. Taking unproven RBs here with a ton of upside is what you're supposed to do in the 3rd round. Did you pass on LaDanian in the third round in 2001 because he was "unproven?" Did you pass on LaMont Jordan last year because he was "unproven?" Your 3rd round pick is supposed to be a guy you think can play like a 2nd rounder or even late 1st rounder. I don't think you found that in DJAX.

Echoes my post nearly 100%

 

I concur completely with all points and all reasoning to substantiate them.

[Sweetness_34 0]

What do you guys think of the DeAngelo W/Deshaun Foster combo????

 

I could get Foster with my 4th rounder too.....

[sirensong 111]

some truly bizarre drafting, especially in ppr.

 

for example, TO was a big reach, especially given his reduced role in dallas. he's looking at 75 catches, not 100. and i'm surprised that boldin didn't fall farther--good pick, imo, but a lot of guys get so amped on fitz that they neglect boldin. muddawgs4life pretty much nailed the WR stuff. some very nice ppr guys in that group, especially smoss and hines.

 

i agree that the djax pick was suspect, but it's done, so you just have to reposition--that's the fun of drafting.

[Sweetness_34 0]

I like Tiki and Moss. I liked Chambers over DJax, but thats a wash in a sense. You should still come away with a good RB. I really like Curtis Martin. Ofcourse he keeps with the theme of a veteran team, but before being hurt last year- he was on pace for another 1000 yard season and 6 TDs. They drafted arguably the 2 best offensive linemen in the draft and Pennington might stay healthy this year. Remember in 2004, Martin put up 1942 yards and 14 TDs.

 

I have man love for Curtis Martin and Ahman Green too......I see CMart having a solid season too. Better OL and Pennington might be healthy again. CMart catches passes too.

[jocstrap 8]

Are Moss and Jackson really that old? They're both in their 20s...........

 

Moss 29 years old going into his 10th year

dJax - 28 years old going into his 8th year

Tike - 31 years old going into his 11th year

 

I'd say these guys have a few miles on the odometer.

 

I do like Both of these wr's and would happily take them both on my team. I'm simply stating it's an old team.

 

What do you guys think of the DeAngelo W/Deshaun Foster combo????

 

I could get Foster with my 4th rounder too.....

 

I like Foster a lot with this pick. I think steven davis is gone isn't he? He stole 10+ goaline td's last year from foster. This year it will be foster taking it in from the 1. If he doesn't get Hurt there is a good chance of 10+ td's in my opinion!

[Sweetness_34 0]

Moss 29 years old going into his 10th year

dJax - 28 years old going into his 8th year

Tike - 31 years old going into his 11th year

 

I'd say these guys have a few miles on the odometer.

 

I do like Both of these wr's and would happily take them both on my team. I'm simply stating it's an old team.

I like Foster a lot with this pick. I think steven davis is gone isn't he? He stole 10+ goaline td's last year from foster. This year it will be foster taking it in from the 1. If he doesn't get Hurt there is a good chance of 10+ td's in my opinion!

 

I prefer proven vets over the new kid on the block every single time. For eg: Roy W is freaking so over-rated and some idiot will draft him in the 4th again.

 

I hope to get Rod Smith at some point too

[SoloMatisse 0]

What do you guys think of the DeAngelo W/Deshaun Foster combo????

 

I could get Foster with my 4th rounder too.....

 

Get it done, Sweetness. I like it if its possible.

[jocstrap 8]

I prefer proven vets over the new kid on the block every single time. For eg: Roy W is freaking so over-rated and some idiot will draft him in the 4th again.

 

I hope to get Rod Smith at some point too

 

Good explanation I'll buy it.

[Fumbleweed 547]

Moss 29 years old going into his 10th year

dJax - 28 years old going into his 8th year

Tike - 31 years old going into his 11th year

 

I'd say these guys have a few miles on the odometer.

 

I do like Both of these wr's and would happily take them both on my team. I'm simply stating it's an old team.

I like Foster a lot with this pick. I think steven davis is gone isn't he? He stole 10+ goaline td's last year from foster. This year it will be foster taking it in from the 1. If he doesn't get Hurt there is a good chance of 10+ td's in my opinion!

 

Jackson has played six years and is 27. Moss has only played 8 years...Barber 9........

 

I think Foster/Williams would be a fine combo.....like that option for you a lot.

[MudDawgs4Life 6]

Mud my man - Just like Dunn and FWP, Droughns does not score TDs either (he had 2 last year and Dunn had 3). Also, how do you know Chester Taylor will last a season when he has never done it? Also, Fason and Moore could make it a RBBC too, not to mention the fact that I just do not see that offense being good in it's first year.

 

I hear ya, but you can't always draft based on last year's stats.

 

Example: Tiki barber had 3 TDs in 2003, after having 11 in 2002. Then, just when you think he's done, he bounces back to score 15 in 'O4 and 11 in '05 (i'm counting receiving TDs too).

 

Droughns had 8 TDs in '04 and yes, suffered a set back in '05, but I just think he's much more likely to get back to 8-10 than stay down there at 2. Reuben got 309 carries last year. Second on the team? Willie Green with 20. Talk about being a featured back. He's in ZERO jeopardy of losing goalline carries to anybody. Cleveland just didn't score that much last year. But i think that team is way improved, I think QB Charlie Frye is a sleeper this year as a solid QB2, and Romeo Crennel is a great coach who in his 2nd year with Cleveland is going to put the browns is a good position to win games.

 

But, the last thing i want to do is criticize your previous picks. those have been made, no use beating a dead horse. DJAX is good and could blow up (or blow out...as in a knee). I like DeShaun, but he just doesn't stay healthy and DeAngelo as your #2 today, May 25th is a reach. Pray for Willie Parker or a more solid featured back.

[9-Route 0]

uhh, moss is 29, has played 8 seasons, this will be his 9th campaign.

 

[holt is also 29, has played 7 seasons, this will be his 8th campaign]

 

[mharrison is 33, has played 10 seasons, this will be his 11th campaign]

 

[TO is 32, has played 10 seasons, this will be his 11th campaign]

[Sweetness_34 0]

Updated again folks:

 

1.01 LJ

1.02 LT

1.03 Shaun Alexander

1.04 Edge

1.05 Steven Jackson

1.06 Tiki Barber (my pick)

1.07 Portis

1.08 Lamont Jordan

1.09 Rudi Johnson

1.10 Caddy

1.11 Ronnie Brown

1.12 Mcgahee

2.01 Westbrook

2.02 Dom Davis

2.03 Steve Smith

2.04 Chad Johnson

2.05 Peyton Manning

2.06 Torry Holt

2.07 TO

2.08 Fitzgerald

2.09 Harrison

2.10 Randy Moss (my pick after trade down from 2.07 => got up from 3.05=>3.06 & 4.10=>5.06 too)

2.11 Boldin

2.12 Julius Jones

3.01 Antonio Gates

3.02 Reggie Bush

3.03 Reggie Wayne

3.04 Jamal Lewis

3.05 Darrell Jackson (My Pick)

3.06 Chris Chambers

3.07 Chester Taylor (your boy scooter )

3.08 Hines Ward

3.09 Kevin Jones

3.10 Reuben Droughns

3.11 Roy Williams/WR

3.12 Willie Parker

4.01 Warrick Dunn

4.02 Team has 2 RB/1 WR

4.03 Team has 2 RB/1 WR

4.04 Team has 2 RBs/1 WR

4.05 Team has 1 QB/1RB/1 WR

4.06 Team has 2 RB/1 WR

4.07 My Pick

4.08

4.09

4.10 My Pick

 

So, as you can see I do not see more than 1 more RB going off the board before my pick. RBs left are:

 

Corey Dillon

Deuce McAllister

Thomas Jones

Tatum Bell

Deshaun Foster

Ahman Green

Joseph Addai

Chris Brown

Cedric Benson

Curtis Martin

Fred Taylor

Dominick Rhodes

DeAngelo Williams

Ron Dayne

Lendale White

Frank Gore

Laurence Maroney

 

Give me your top 3 in order folks....let's hear it. I am sure it will be like the previous pick....everyone with a different choice (which is why I did not take the RB previously )

[Ilov80s 0]

Tough call here. I would def. take Cmart. The other pick is hard. You could play it safe and take another RB or you could go for broke on a WR or Shockey.

[Sweetness_34 0]

I am thinking of going Carson Palmer with the 4.10 if he is still there

 

I do not have a 5th round pick. So, basically I take either Deshaun Foster or Thomas Jones or Corey Dillon with the 1st pick (4.07) and then follow it up with his back up in the 6th or 7th.....and take another RB with upside like a Curtis Martin/Dominick Rhodes/Ahman Green etc in the 6th or 7th if there

 

Thoughts folks?????

[jocstrap 8]

Jackson has played six years and is 27. Moss has only played 8 years...Barber 9........

 

I think Foster/Williams would be a fine combo.....like that option for you a lot.

 

 

I guess Cbssportsline is wrong on all their info? I might have missed one age on a december b-day of DJAX possibly. But i'm pretty sure about YEARS PRO

Moss 9th year completed going on 10th

Djax 7th year completed going on 8th

Barber 10th year completed going on 11th

 

My bad I stand corrected - Cbssportsline might be current and I'm adding one year to Years Pro. Sorry.

[SoloMatisse 0]

I am thinking of going Carson Palmer with the 4.10 if he is still there

 

I do not have a 5th round pick. So, basically I take either Deshaun Foster or Thomas Jones or Corey Dillon with the 1st pick (4.07) and then follow it up with his back up in the 6th or 7th.....and take another RB with upside like a Curtis Martin/Dominick Rhodes/Ahman Green etc in the 6th or 7th if there

 

Thoughts folks?????

 

 

My thoughts are again, the rabbit of the hat trick....I cant wait to see what you do. No, seriously....Id be looking at the best available back on the best available TEAM which is Corey Dillon, imo. Now, you could take Maroney or Dominic Rhodes, both of which I like, but Id take your boy Benson here if I were you. He's your legit shot at a mid round Larry Johnson type this year. You may be able to steal Maroney much later. Good luck with that.

[Tobex 0]

I am thinking of going Carson Palmer with the 4.10 if he is still there

 

I do not have a 5th round pick. So, basically I take either Deshaun Foster or Thomas Jones or Corey Dillon with the 1st pick (4.07) and then follow it up with his back up in the 6th or 7th.....and take another RB with upside like a Curtis Martin/Dominick Rhodes/Ahman Green etc in the 6th or 7th if there

 

Thoughts folks?????

 

You're playing with dirty underwear here man. I think I'd go Dillon as well.

[Sweetness_34 0]

My thoughts are again, the rabbit of the hat trick....I cant wait to see what you do. No, seriously....Id be looking at the best available back on the best available TEAM which is Corey Dillon, imo. Now, you could take Maroney or Dominic Rhodes, both of which I like, but Id take your boy Benson here if I were you. He's your legit shot at a mid round Larry Johnson type this year. You may be able to steal Maroney much later. Good luck with that.

 

I was going to take Dillon with the 3rd rounder too, so if he falls past this one guy who needs a RB, I will be thrilled. I think I can pick up Maroney in the 6th to go with him easily.

 

But what do you think of Palmer with 4.10.....again, I do not have a 5th rounder, and I can always get another decent QB with upside (Bledsoe, Brooks, Delhomme etc) to cover myself.

 

Thoughts on Palmer?