Real draft going on right now

[Da Bomb 0]

pretty crazy good trade-up for you. i dont know what moron dropped spots here to gain a few meaningless slots in the 10th really. you moved up and got a guy you had been vaguely considering with your two 4s... at almost no cost.

[Steel City Blues 0]

I got Dominic Rhodes with the trade up......

 

Da Bears (My team)

QB Carson Palmer CIN 0.00 4.07 5

RB Tiki Barber NYG 0.00 1.06 4

RB Curtis Martin NYJ 0.00 4.10 9

RB DeAngelo Williams FA 0.00 6.07 0

RB Dominic Rhodes IND 0.00 7.02 6

WR Randy Moss OAK 0.00 2.10 3

WR Darrell Jackson SEA 0.00 3.05 5

 

Team is shaping up nicely with DW and Rhodes. Thinking about getting Edge like production from your #4 RB will make the Mrs. pleasantly surprised tonight.

 

What are you looking at next?

TE (who is on the radar?)

nab a couple solid #3 WR types

backup QB with Palmer in rehab?

[Sweetness_34 0]

Team is shaping up nicely with DW and Rhodes. Thinking about getting Edge like production from your #4 RB will make the Mrs. pleasantly surprised tonight.

 

What are you looking at next?

TE (who is on the radar?)

nab a couple solid #3 WR types

backup QB with Palmer in rehab?

 

I can definitely wait for TE unless there is a run.....WR seems to be what I will target next (though Moose and Rod Smith are both gone.....my top 2 choices.....but I think I can get a Kennison, Terry Glenn, Joey Porter, Drew Bennett, Keenan McCardell, Mark Clayton, Mike Clayton etc as my #3)

 

Many many options left for back up QB too, though I fear my top choice (Kurt W) might not be there. In that case I may pick 2 back up Qbs in case Palmer misses a month.

[Steel City Blues 0]

I can definitely wait for TE unless there is a run.....WR seems to be what I will target next (though Moose and Rod Smith are both gone.....my top 2 choices.....but I think I can get a Kennison, Terry Glenn, Joey Porter, Drew Bennett, Keenan McCardell, Mark Clayton, Mike Clayton etc as my #3)

 

Many many options left for back up QB too, though I fear my top choice (Kurt W) might not be there. In that case I may pick 2 back up Qbs in case Palmer misses a month.

 

I like Warner this year too.

 

Edge will help him tremendously. Not only getting the running game going to take pressure off, but as an excellent blocker. Manning is gonna miss him.

 

It's also hard to ignore having two WR ranked in the top 10. Someone has to throw the ball to em.

[ratbastard1 0]

I like Bennett with Volek.

 

Well done on your last 2 picks now do the same with your wideouts!

 

There comes a time where you might take that best TE. Where's the drop off?

 

You need a durable QB to hold the fort.

[Sweetness_34 0]

Updated:

 

1.01 LJ

1.02 LT

1.03 Shaun Alexander

1.04 Edge

1.05 Steven Jackson

1.06 Tiki Barber (my pick)

1.07 Portis

1.08 Lamont Jordan

1.09 Rudi Johnson

1.10 Caddy

1.11 Ronnie Brown

1.12 Mcgahee

2.01 Westbrook

2.02 Dom Davis

2.03 Steve Smith

2.04 Chad Johnson

2.05 Peyton Manning

2.06 Torry Holt

2.07 TO

2.08 Fitzgerald

2.09 Harrison

2.10 Randy Moss (my pick after trade down from 2.07 => got up from 3.05=>3.06 & 4.10=>5.06 too)

2.11 Boldin

2.12 Julius Jones

3.01 Antonio Gates

3.02 Reggie Bush

3.03 Reggie Wayne

3.04 Jamal Lewis

3.05 Darrell Jackson (My Pick)

3.06 Chris Chambers

3.07 Chester Taylor (your boy scooter )

3.08 Hines Ward

3.09 Kevin Jones

3.10 Reuben Droughns

3.11 Roy Williams/WR

3.12 Willie Parker

4.01 Warrick Dunn

4.02 Santana Moss

4.03 Plaxico Burress

4.04 Joe Horn

4.05 Donald Driver

4.06 Houshmandzadeh

4.07 Carson Palmer (My Pick)

4.08 Jeremy Shockey

4.09 Javon Walker

4.10 Curtis Martin (My Pick)

4.11 Tony Gonzalez

4.12 Tom Brady

5.01 Tatum Bell

5.02 Andre Johnson

5.03 Todd Heap

5.04 Marc Bulger

5.05 Deion Branch

5.06 Cedric Benson

5.07 Joseph Addai

5.08 Thomas Jones

5.09 Corey Dillon

5.10 Matt Hasselback

5.11 Deuce McAllister

5.12 Eli Manning

6.01 Derrick Mason

6.02 Joey Galloway

6.03 Frank Gore

6.04 Alge Crumpler

6.05 Deshaun Foster

6.06 Donovan Mcnabb

6.07 DeAngelo W (my pick)

6.08 Lee Evans

6.09 Nate Burleson

6.10 Laverneous Coles

6.11 Ron Dayne

6.12 Ahman Green

7.01 Fred Taylor

7.02 Dominick Rhodes (My pick: Traded my 7.06, 8.07 and 10.07 for 7.02, 8.11 and 10.11)

7.03 Muhsin Muhammad

7.04 Laurence Maroney

7.05 Michael Vick

7.06 Rod Smith

7.07 Koren Robinson

7.08 Chris Brown

7.09 Mike Clayton

7.10 Reggie Brown

 

My next pick - 8.11

 

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Updated Rosters:

 

Angry Squirrels:

RB LaDainian Tomlinson SDC 0.00 1.02 3

RB Reggie Bush FA 0.00 3.02 0

RB Ron Dayne DEN 0.00 6.11 4

WR Anquan Boldin ARI 0.00 2.11 9

WR Andre Johnson HOU 0.00 5.02 5

WR Rod Smith DEN 0.00 7.06 4

TE Tony Gonzalez KCC 0.00 4.11 3

 

$teelerMike

QB Tom Brady NEP 0.00 5.01 6

RB Larry Johnson KCC 0.00 1.01 3

RB Julius Jones DAL 0.00 2.12 3

RB Tatum Bell DEN 0.00 4.12 4

RB Ahman Green GBP 0.00 6.12 6

RB Fred Taylor JAC 0.00 7.01 6

TE Antonio Gates SDC 0.00 3.01 3

 

Ohio River-Rats

QB Matt Hasselbeck SEA 0.00 5.10 5

RB Edgerrin James IND 0.00 1.04 6

RB Reuben Droughns CLE 0.00 3.10 6

RB Frank Gore SFO 0.00 6.03 7

WR Marvin Harrison IND 0.00 2.09 6

WR Javon Walker GBP 0.00 4.09 6

WR Reggie Brown PHI 0.00 7.10 9

 

Flying Ostriches (this guy traded out of 1.03 - the Shaun Alexander pick)

RB Willie Parker PIT 0.00 3.12 4

RB Warrick Dunn ATL 0.00 4.01 5

RB DeShaun Foster CAR 0.00 6.05 9

RB Chris Brown TEN 0.00 7.08 7

WR Terrell Owens PHI 0.00 2.07 9

WR Larry Fitzgerald ARI 0.00 2.08 9

WR Chris Chambers MIA 0.00 3.06 8

TE Todd Heap BAL 0.00 5.03 7

 

Prairie Oysters

QB Marc Bulger STL 0.00 5.04 7

RB Carnell Williams TBB 0.00 1.10 4

RB Jamal Lewis BAL 0.00 3.04 7

RB Laurence Maroney FA 0.00 7.04 0

WR Steve Smith CAR 0.00 2.03 9

WR Plaxico Burress NYG 0.00 4.03 4

WR Nate Burleson MIN 0.00 6.09 6

 

Keyser Soze

RB Ronnie Brown MIA 0.00 1.11 8

RB Domanick Davis HOU 0.00 2.02 5

RB Deuce McAllister NOS 0.00 5.11 7

WR Roy Williams DET 0.00 3.11 8

WR Santana Moss WAS 0.00 4.02 8

WR Joey Galloway TBB 0.00 6.02 4

 

BerthaC (this guy traded up for 1.03 by giving up the 2/3/4 rounders)

QB Michael Vick ATL 0.00 7.05 5

RB Shaun Alexander SEA 0.00 1.03 5

RB Steven Jackson STL 0.00 1.05 7

WR Deion Branch NEP 0.00 5.05 6

WR Lee Evans BUF 0.00 6.08 8

WR Laveranues Coles NYJ 0.00 6.10 9

WR Muhsin Muhammad CHI 0.00 7.03 7

 

Vipers

QB Eli Manning NYG 0.00 5.12 4

RB Willis McGahee BUF 0.00 1.12 8

RB Brian Westbrook PHI 0.00 2.01 9

WR Reggie Wayne IND 0.00 3.03 6

WR Derrick Mason BAL 0.00 6.01 7

TE Jeremy Shockey NYG 0.00 4.08 4

 

Feisty Ferrets

QB Donovan McNabb PHI 0.00 6.06 9

RB Clinton Portis WAS 0.00 1.07 8

RB Chester Taylor BAL 0.00 3.07 7

RB Joseph Addai FA 0.00 5.07 0

WR Torry Holt STL 0.00 2.06 7

WR TJ Houshmandzadeh CIN 0.00 4.06 5

WR Koren Robinson MIN 0.00 7.07 6

 

Godzilla

RB Rudi Johnson CIN 0.00 1.09 5

RB Kevin Jones DET 0.00 3.09 8

RB Corey Dillon NEP 0.00 5.09 6

WR Chad Johnson CIN 0.00 2.04 5

WR Joe Horn NOS 0.00 4.04 7

WR Michael Clayton TBB 0.00 7.09 4

TE Alge Crumpler ATL 0.00 6.04 5

 

Steagles

QB Peyton Manning IND 0.00 2.05 6

RB LaMont Jordan OAK 0.00 1.08 3

RB Cedric Benson CHI 0.00 5.06 7

RB Thomas Jones CHI 0.00 5.08 7

WR Hines Ward PIT 0.00 3.08 4

WR Donald Driver GBP 0.00 4.05 6

 

Da Bears (My team)

QB Carson Palmer CIN 0.00 4.07 5

RB Tiki Barber NYG 0.00 1.06 4

RB Curtis Martin NYJ 0.00 4.10 9

RB DeAngelo Williams FA 0.00 6.07 0

RB Dominic Rhodes IND 0.00 7.02 6

WR Randy Moss OAK 0.00 2.10 3

WR Darrell Jackson SEA 0.00 3.05 5

[Fumbleweed 547]

I know you've got your heart set on Warner, but I think Trent Green would be a nice pick-up before long. Seems like really good value here as WR value looks pretty much equal across the board for awhile........

[ratbastard1 0]

Cooley? Stallworth? Bennett? another RB?

 

At QB you might want to play it safe and Pick one you could live with all year right now. Just in case.

[Fumbleweed 547]

Cooley? Stallworth? Bennett? another RB?

 

At QB you might want to play it safe and Pick one you could live with all year right now. Just in case.

 

Exactly......like Trent Green.

[Sweetness_34 0]

Exactly......like Trent Green.

 

I am looking at Trent Green, Kurt Warner, Drew Bledsoe, Brett Favre and worst case Aaron Brooks....hopefully one of them fall to me.

 

The advantage of going with Warner or Favre is that they have relatively later bye weeks. If I go with Green or Bledsoe or Brooks, I may have to get a 3rd QB if Palmer cannot play the first month.

[football_scooter 0]

yeah sure, then boom he trades taylor for like a 5th round WR value, and now he still only has one WR, and that WR isnt even a sure thing.

 

theres drafting value, and theres overkill. steeler dude's season is over. he blew it.

 

This is the least insightful thing you've said in this topic. No offense intended, but while the guy is risking a lot, he DOES have several RBs who, IF they all pan out, will be trade bait - and in week 3 or 4 when several teams have taken hits to their RBs, he's going to be right there to scoop up WR2s who were taken in the 3rd-5th rounds fpor prospect RBs he took in the 4-8 rounds.

 

I'm not saying I'd use his strategy, but to completely discount it is foolish at this stage. He could end up dealing for Wayne/Housh for two of his prospects, while keeping his 1-2 punch intact. Then he owns the league.

 

There's many ways to the house next door. His season is in no way "over"...that's a dubious statement at best.

 

Rhodes was a great pull, and the guy who made that deal is a complete schmuck - it made no sense and he should have seen what you intended to do and made you pay more than the schwaggy pick "improvements" he received...he handed you Rhodes and got d!ck in return. I highly question that trade and your leaguemates should be ticked.

 

 

 

pretty crazy good trade-up for you. i dont know what moron dropped spots here to gain a few meaningless slots in the 10th really. you moved up and got a guy you had been vaguely considering with your two 4s... at almost no cost.

 

It's almost too good to be true....for the life of me I can't figure out what the other guy got.

[Da Bomb 0]

i do believe i can probably speak on trade tactics with as much experience and expertise as anyone on this message board. and i can tell you, ive tried many times to pull this sort of a strategy. load up on a position, then kill the rest of the league when they need your boys. well, it doesnt always work. in fact, it usually doenst. first, your leaguemates arent dumb -- they know exactly what youre doing and they know youre going to try to screw them over. also, people out there say dumb things like "well i drafted wayne in the 3rd and you drafted ahman in the 7th, theres no way im making that trade." while i disagree completely with taht logic when the season is 5 weeks in and its clear the two are equal in value, that doesnt mean that 90% of the fantasy world wouldnt swear by it. the fact is that with LJ and JJ, he needs to make sure he keeps a strong 3rd RB. and the fact is that hes not going to be able to trade fred taylor for reggie wayne unless wayne breaks his leg first. he'll eventually have to settle for someone like rod smith or lav coles or derrick mason, or someone else of equal caliber that he couldve just taken with his picks. instead, since he waited 5 weeks and didnt have any WRs, now hes 2-3 or 1-4 and still has only mediocre WRs and good but not amazing RBs, and his team doesnt have a great shot.

 

oh, its fantasy football. anyone can contend, and any player could boom or bust. no one is out until the games are played. but hes put himself in an awful position, and unless he gets very lucky or has some really dumb league mates, hes not going to have a good shot at pulling himself out of this one.

[football_scooter 0]

i do believe i can probably speak on trade tactics with as much experience and expertise as anyone on this message board. and i can tell you, ive tried many times to pull this sort of a strategy. load up on a position, then kill the rest of the league when they need your boys. well, it doesnt always work. in fact, it usually doenst. first, your leaguemates arent dumb -- they know exactly what youre doing and they know youre going to try to screw them over. also, people out there say dumb things like "well i drafted wayne in the 3rd and you drafted ahman in the 7th, theres no way im making that trade." while i disagree completely with taht logic when the season is 5 weeks in and its clear the two are equal in value, that doesnt mean that 90% of the fantasy world wouldnt swear by it. the fact is that with LJ and JJ, he needs to make sure he keeps a strong 3rd RB. and the fact is that hes not going to be able to trade fred taylor for reggie wayne unless wayne breaks his leg first. he'll eventually have to settle for someone like rod smith or lav coles or derrick mason, or someone else of equal caliber that he couldve just taken with his picks. instead, since he waited 5 weeks and didnt have any WRs, now hes 2-3 or 1-4 and still has only mediocre WRs and good but not amazing RBs, and his team doesnt have a great shot.

 

oh, its fantasy football. anyone can contend, and any player could boom or bust. no one is out until the games are played. but hes put himself in an awful position, and unless he gets very lucky or has some really dumb league mates, hes not going to have a good shot at pulling himself out of this one.

 

You can't know any of this. It's all speculation. Until the season is under way, and his risk has either paid or flopped, all you can do is speculate.

 

You make interesting points, but it's a lot of smoke and hot air unless and until his strategy fails.

 

You don't know how his leaguemates will react - a team that took a hit to his top RB who has a strong WR corps will gladly deal a WR2 for a RB2 - every day of the week, regardless of where they're drafted.

 

That entire argument is bogus, IMO. FFBers know a players value after 3 weeks of the season and it matters not one iota that the player was taken in the 7th or 10th round or wherever. Two years back, I took Gates in the 10th in 2 leagues. By the 4th week of the season, I was getting offered 2nd and 3rd round WRs for him.

 

Anyway, I'm not defending his strategy - far from it. I'm just pointing out, to both of you now, that to discount his chances of even competing and to say "his season is over" is completely ridiculous. For all you know, he'll have 5 STUD RBs, and 4 teams in the league will lose top 10 starters. FFB is a funny thing...

[Da Bomb 0]

youre right, i dont know any of this. neither does anyone. fantasy football is a game of speculation. but some people can use logic, stats, and experience to "speculate" better than others.

 

no, i dont know exactly how it will work out. maybe he'll have the top 5 RBs in the league. maybe theres a moron in his league who will trade him torry holt for fred taylor after week one. maybe the other 11 owners will forfeit out of sheer fear for his impeccable RB corps. the point is that, in my very experienced drafting and trading opinion, he has set himself up for failure, and he now needs those ever elusive fantasy gods to bail him out if he is to have any shot.

[Sweetness_34 0]

Scooter

 

The guy who traded down and handed me Rhodes is the Commish himself. He wanted Rod Smith and he still got him by trading down. Also, he had no faith in Rhodes. He feels Addai will start and dominate

[SoloMatisse 0]

Scooter

 

The guy who traded down and handed me Rhodes is the Commish himself. He wanted Rod Smith and he still got him by trading down. Also, he had no faith in Rhodes. He feels Addai will start and dominate

 

 

thats funny....he said start and dominate. It just goes to show how overrated Joe Addai is right now. The guy starts on his collegiate team for about half a season his last year, and now he's gonna dominate in the NFL? Thats good. Good for you that other owner sees it that way, and he'll be feeling like a schmoe at the end of the season when Addai ends up with Stephen Jackson rookie #s.....450yds and 4TDs. You defintely stole Rhodes in this draft, 34, but lets stay focused on those WRs....you need 2 in the next 2 rounds. Kurt Warner would be the one guy Id consider in the 9th round, but even then, if he makes it to the 9th, he's probably floating until the 10th. Id disagree with the optimism about Trent Green. his TD #s took a major dip last year, and I dont see those or his yardage #s taking any kind of increase with conservative Herm at the helm. Arizona will still be in the top 3 this year in yds passing.

[SoloMatisse 0]

If you wanted Rod Smith, you can still get him.....he's changed his name to Eddie Kennison. Nab him ,and you may as well be nabbing Smith. He's how Id tier off the remaining receivers....

 

 

 

DStallworth - with new QB in NO, Brees, who's to say Stallworth doesnt now become the #1?

ABryant - a clear cut #1 in SF with a proven history of production. Should be a 1000/7 player this year.

 

TGlenn - a #2 on his own team, but wont see a double all year.

JJurevicius - clear cut #1 on Cleveland now with high TD potential and upside now that he'll be the man.

 

 

EKennison - #1 on KC....1000/7 would be expected....he was born to be a #3 fantasy receiver.

JPorter - you already have Moss, or I might place him higher...but Id still rather the other guys.

 

Jacksonville WRs - the dilemna....which one? Matt Jones? Wilford? Williams? Take your pick. The guys above are better choices right now. One of the Jax guys might be a nice #4 if you take a QB with one of your next picks.

 

 

 

You could end up with any 2 of these guys and probably feel good about it at this point.

[stonecoldsoonerfan 0]

i would think that you should go ahead and pick up warner now. if he fits into your plays and is going to start 1/4 of your season or so, i would think you should pick him up pretty darn quick. a guy in a ppr league that was on the top passing team with 2 good wr's and one good rb that will catch out of the backfield against a favorable schedule is a good pick here. especially with his history of getting hurt, you should play him in the first part of the season before he does get hurt. anyone else have some thoughts on that?

[SoloMatisse 0]

There havent been too many QBs drafted so far, and Warner is a guy sliding alot in drafts.....Im guessing his ADP is probably around 15, so I think he can take a WR now, and look at him with one of his next 2 picks.

[ellisonb11 0]

if you can wait on QB, grab a WR and i would try to land bledsoe later. bledsoe i believe will have a great season with the addition of TO. he had a decent fantasy season last year with terry glenn as his number 1. i would think his numbers would improve.

[Belushi 9]

if you can wait on QB, grab a WR and i would try to land bledsoe later. bledsoe i believe will have a great season with the addition of TO. he had a decent fantasy season last year with terry glenn as his number 1. i would think his numbers would improve.

 

I agree. I don't see a huge difference between Warner and Bledsoe. Both have great WR's, and Warner is injury-prone and his replacement is sitting on the bench. I don't think Leinhart will steal the job this year, but if Warner loses a few games and looks bad then Leinhart may be given a chance late in the season.

 

WR, then Bledsoe later is a good strategy IMO. Of the WR's left, I'd go with Glenn. I'd stay away from Kennison; I think that KC offence will be pretty conservative. Glenn had great success last year, and with TO to take some coverage away I think he'll do very well this year.

[Steel City Blues 0]

There havent been too many QBs drafted so far, and Warner is a guy sliding alot in drafts.....Im guessing his ADP is probably around 15, so I think he can take a WR now, and look at him with one of his next 2 picks.

 

Good information dat! Maybe with fresh blood in the wings, people won't want to invest in Kurt.

 

He could be this year's Warner to come from no where putting up top 5 numbers. Not bad for a grocery boy.

 

 

 

As for Trent Green, he should be gone by your next pick anyhow. Good value for the teams that waited this long for their gun slinger.

[Sweetness_34 0]

I have to go WR next pick (8.11), because SteelerMike has 2 picks after mine (the guy with 5 RBs, 1 QB and 1 TE).....there will be more WRs picked than QB before my next pick (9.06)......I can target TE or back up QB with that 9th pick (will see who is left and who falls), and then go opposite the next pick probably

 

If some more WR value falls to my next pick, I might go WR back to back. The good thing with TEs is that I am very comfortable with LJ SMith or Heath Miller or Randy McMichael as my starter, so I can wait. I can always get a high upside back up like Vernon Davis or Soldja

 

 

3 TEs just got picked (Witten, LJ Smith, Cooley).....I will get to choose between Randy M, Heath Miller, Dallas Clark etc

[Steel City Blues 0]

i do believe i can probably speak on trade tactics with as much experience and expertise as anyone on this message board. and i can tell you, ive tried many times to pull this sort of a strategy. load up on a position, then kill the rest of the league when they need your boys. well, it doesnt always work. in fact, it usually doenst. first, your leaguemates arent dumb -- they know exactly what youre doing and they know youre going to try to screw them over. also, people out there say dumb things like "well i drafted wayne in the 3rd and you drafted ahman in the 7th, theres no way im making that trade." while i disagree completely with taht logic when the season is 5 weeks in and its clear the two are equal in value, that doesnt mean that 90% of the fantasy world wouldnt swear by it. the fact is that with LJ and JJ, he needs to make sure he keeps a strong 3rd RB. and the fact is that hes not going to be able to trade fred taylor for reggie wayne unless wayne breaks his leg first. he'll eventually have to settle for someone like rod smith or lav coles or derrick mason, or someone else of equal caliber that he couldve just taken with his picks. instead, since he waited 5 weeks and didnt have any WRs, now hes 2-3 or 1-4 and still has only mediocre WRs and good but not amazing RBs, and his team doesnt have a great shot.

 

oh, its fantasy football. anyone can contend, and any player could boom or bust. no one is out until the games are played. but hes put himself in an awful position, and unless he gets very lucky or has some really dumb league mates, hes not going to have a good shot at pulling himself out of this one.

 

 

That kind of thinking is truely moronic. There are WW pickups like Boldin a couple years back that put up #1 WR numbers consistently. Are you suggesting that same moron, after scooping up Boldin, would insist Boldin is only worth trading for my kicker or team D? I didn't think so.

 

Next time you try to pull off a trade make a joke about this with your buddy and say c'mon the draft is out the window. It's good timing for us to trade (joe for smoe) so we can make both of our teams better & I'll see you in the Beer Buster League Super Bowl.

[Da Bomb 0]

i know i was saying earlier that finding a very good backup would be key. however, with the caliber of QBs still left, i am wondering now if you arent better suited using these next two picks on a WR and a TE -- both starters for your team. im not sure how much the dropoff will be at QB. seems there are a multitude of backup options available who will be decent for a few weeks if you need them. and at this point, you have to be planning on having palmer for at least 14 games, otherwise it was dumb to pick him that high. id rather secure a good TE that i can start 16 times than wait and use a pick on a QB who will get me an extra 1-2 ppg in the 3 games he plays.

 

guys to be considering at those three positions, in my order of pref:

 

qb

kurt warner - we've said what needs to be said about him

drew bledsoe - 3600 and 23 last year and was a top 5 QB in some formats, now add in owens

jake plummer - all he did last year was throw for 3400, 18 TDs, 7 picks, and make the pro bowl. add in 150 and 2 on the ground. very safe backup.

aaron brooks - if you dont get negatives, you know he'll get you stats. a normal 16 game season from him is 3500 yards, 20+ TDs, and 200/2 on the ground. great backup qb.

brad johnson - had 1800 and 12 TDs last year in half a season

steve mcnair - a good option for someone like you who needs a passer for the first few weeks. thats when mcnairs healthy. whether baltimore or tennessee, he'll be had much later and he'll put up decent stats

drew brees - no reason to think he wont put up solid numbers with good receiving options in new orleans

byron leftwich - still coming around as a passer but had a 15/5 TD/int ratio in 11 games last year

chris simms - coming around as an nfl starter, and still has gruden in his favor

philip rivers - should be what brees was, but not nice to have him at the beginning of the season

david carr - would be a better option if you didnt need the qb for the first few weeks of the season

billy volek - really struggled last year, but remember the year before when he got into a rhythm with 8 starts, he had 2500 yards and 18 TDs. double that for a whole season and hes a superstar. worth a shot at least.

 

wr

drew bennett - i dont know how everyones sleeping on this guy. had 60/700/4 in 12 games last year, so thats more like 80/950/6. in ppr thats a very valuable 3rd WR. plus lest we forget, he will probably have billy volek throwing the ball to him. remember the end of 2004?

donte stallworth - had 70/950/7 last year and started to replace horn as the top dog there, excellent option

jerry porter - quietly had 75 catches last year, for 950 and 5. on a year where people thought he sucked. even if he only equals that, hes a good WR3 in ppr

eddie kennison - meet rod smith jr. 70/1100/5 last year in a bad year passing for the chiefs

terry glenn - had 60/1100/7 last year and should benefit from owens, plus already has good rapport with bledsoe

keyshawn johnson - another new team, but keys has transitioned twice already and done fine each time. easy bet for 70/900/6 and not much more or less

keenan mccardell - another rod smith jr. had 70/900/9 last year. dont expect the 9, and wouldnt be surprised to see rivers favor the younger parker, but you know keenan will get catches and yards

koren robinson - upside guy, but stats were never good last year, so a big gamble still even as the #1 WR

ernest wilford - looks like the jag WR you want for now. 40/700/7 last year and is the clear red zone threat esp with jimmy gone now

braylon edwards - looked like a stud when he played last year, but i dont know how that injury business is with him

eric moulds - i dont expect a lot from him in houston, but worth mentioning

david givens - worth mentioning, but has never been great for fantasy and WRs on new teams arent happy

antonio bryant - 70/1000/4 last year but on a new team with an awful offense

michael clayton - awful last year but 80/1200/7 the year before so a terrific bounce back WR4 type

 

te

jason witten - people are sleeping on him in a ppr league. averaged 75/850/6 the last two years. he may lose a few catches with owens around, but should be more open in the redzone because of him too. best TE left and its not close

chris cooley - had 70/775/7 last year and now they gave him the best OC in the league who happens to love TEs. hmm...

lj smith - had 60/700/3 last year and is the real WR1 in philly, potential ppr stud

dallas clark - everyones favorite breakout guy last year. didnt quite breakout but still had 40/500/4 in an offense that scored a lot less than expected. with no good 2nd TE and no edge, those numbers should increase this year

randy mcmichael - daunte uses his TE often, and mcmichael has put up good stats a few years in a row

heath miller - rookie season had 40 catches, 450 yards, and 6 TDs and became more and more of a threat as the season went on. could easily be looking at a 55/650/8 sort of upside.

ben troupe - huge upside at TE. had 55/530/4 last year, and thats as the #2 TE. if kinney ever went down, troupe could catch 70 or 80 passes.

jermaine wiggins - any TE who catches 70 passes a year will be worth looking at in ppr

jerramy stevens - had 45/550/5 last year and you could see their confidence in him in the playoffs

marcus pollard - had 45/500/3 last year in first year with lions and should improve with better qb

 

seems to me that there are about 6 or 7 QBs there that you could feel pretty comfortable with starting for a few weeks. there are a lot of TEs that you can be comfortable with too, but i think witten cooley and lj smith are potential TE studs and should be taken (esp witten) if they somehow slip. otherwise i think its time to take WRs. there are about 8 pretty good ones worth having in my lists, and the top few have potential to still be excellent picks this late.

 

ideally you could get witten/lj/cooley and one of the WRs like bennett/stallworth/porter. that would REALLY round out that starting lineup, wow.

[Ilov80s 0]

I would target Drew Bennett without even thinking twice. His potential with Volek under center is incredibly high.

[football_scooter 0]

That kind of thinking is truely moronic. There are WW pickups like Boldin a couple years back that put up #1 WR numbers consistently. Are you suggesting that same moron, after scooping up Boldin, would insist Boldin is only worth trading for my kicker or team D? I didn't think so.

 

Next time you try to pull off a trade make a joke about this with your buddy and say c'mon the draft is out the window. It's good timing for us to trade (joe for smoe) so we can make both of our teams better & I'll see you in the Beer Buster League Super Bowl.

 

Exactly. I think Da Bomb just tries way too hard to disagree sometimes - this is clearly one of those times. He's just pulling stuff out of his arse to support the erroneous contention that the team who went RB heavy has "lost the league already".

 

I think that whole line of reasoning is bogus.

 

Depth at RB in FFB where RB is still king is never a bad thing. Ever.

 

And here's a scary thought: what if that RB heavy team is the one lucky enough to scoop up this year's Boldin. Is he still toast before the season has even started?

 

It's just so foolish to write off a team's chances when they have so many RBs that they can eventually deal to get stud WRs or whatever other position they're short on. A RB3 is worth a WR2 regardless of where they were drafted. Why? Because you can always pick up a WR, whereas RBs are far more rare and the WW is barron of RBs.

 

Bomb, you may have all kinds of experience - I won't dispute that. But you're pretty short on wisdom for all that experience. Sometimes practice doesn't make perfect, and I think you're the perfect example...your statements on this one prove that. If you picked up a backup RB off the WW, and the starter got hurt and your guy became the starter, do you honestly think he'd have no value to someone in the league who simultaneously had a starter go down just because you grabbed him up off the WW? Please. His value is exactly what the starter's value was, and where you got him becomes 100% irrelevant. You said you need to use "logic, stats and experience"? Congrats - you used none of the 3 in making these ridiculous statements.

 

Like I said - maybe it won't pan out for this guy - but you're being really shortsighted here and stubbornly so.

[jocstrap 8]

I still like the flying 0's the best

 

& what is going on with the STeeler mike guy??? I think you guys forgot to tell him that you have to start wr's in this league. His WR corps will look like Engram, Booker, Troy Williamson, Rashuan Woods. His rb's aren't even good enough to trade .

[Da Bomb 0]

I think Da Bomb just tries way too hard to disagree sometimes

 

pretty funny coming from your mouth scooter.

 

anyways, i guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. ive tried to load up on a position and prepare to trade, and ive had a team very much like this guys before and figured of course i can get WRs later, but im just telling you it doesnt work out that easy. its fun to point out anquan boldin, but how many top 10 WRs have been on waivers in the last 5 years? who else other than boldin?

 

like i said, this is fantasy football so anything can happen. but the point remains that this guys starting WRs are going to be like keenan mccardell, donte stallworth, and samie parker... and he has a good but not stud QB, and a good pair but not a sick pair of RBs. many of his league mates should be close to him in RB points any given matchup, and many QBs should be close to him as well. sure, hes going to gain a few points at gates every week, but is that and the potential LJ explosion really going to carry him past the several ppg at WR hes losing at all three spots every week? some weeks, sure. but enough to carry him all season? enough to give him a shot at winning the playoffs? highly doubtful.

 

i have no doubt he can finish 500 with that team... LJ alone could get him close to there. but unless bell and jones both become stud top 10 RB in the first few weeks, he just doenst have that much trade bait to get him any top shelf WRs. like i said, he could always get lucky with the once-in-every-few-years boldin type, or he could just find a really retarded owner to make a dumb trade like holt for freddy t... but its going to take something like that for him to actually contend for the title.

 

in a PPR league, a good WR will get you 5 catches, 80 yards each week and a TD every other week. thats 16 ppg. steelermike's gonna have WRs where that will be a very nice week for them, and other weeks they'll disappear for like 1 catch and 13 yards. that type of disappearing act is going to cost him all season long imo. when you start 3 WRs, you absolutely must have at least two very good starters, or you wont win no matter how good the rest of your team is. in a PPR, that logic is double or triple true. i have to re-convince myself of that every year while my teams flounder at the start because im loaded at qb/rb/te but dont have great WRs. im speaking from a heckuva lot of experience here. and yes, its awful logic for someone to say they wont trade a guy because of draft position, but from my expereicne, most fantasy players wont give up on a high draft pick for at least 6 weeks... and by then, by the time you get the taylor/holt sick deal, it might be too late anyways.

 

I still like the flying 0's the best

 

& what is going on with the STeeler mike guy??? I think you guys forgot to tell him that you have to start wr's in this league. His WR corps will look like Engram, Booker, Troy Williamson, Rashuan Woods. His rb's aren't even good enough to trade .

 

[Steel City Blues 0]

If you wanted Rod Smith, you can still get him.....he's changed his name to Eddie Kennison. Nab him ,and you may as well be nabbing Smith. He's how Id tier off the remaining receivers....

DStallworth - with new QB in NO, Brees, who's to say Stallworth doesnt now become the #1?

ABryant - a clear cut #1 in SF with a proven history of production. Should be a 1000/7 player this year.

 

TGlenn - a #2 on his own team, but wont see a double all year.

JJurevicius - clear cut #1 on Cleveland now with high TD potential and upside now that he'll be the man.

EKennison - #1 on KC....1000/7 would be expected....he was born to be a #3 fantasy receiver.

JPorter - you already have Moss, or I might place him higher...but Id still rather the other guys.

 

Jacksonville WRs - the dilemna....which one? Matt Jones? Wilford? Williams? Take your pick. The guys above are better choices right now. One of the Jax guys might be a nice #4 if you take a QB with one of your next picks.

You could end up with any 2 of these guys and probably feel good about it at this point.

 

 

Many options to choose from at WR here. Maybe you could find out which round these guys are going. I'd link several will be there in the double digit rounds.

 

I've never been a big fan of Stallworth or Glenn, so don't let my short sighted view deter you here.

 

Antonio Bryant should be a solid ff producer. SF will see plenty of garbage time to pad the stats. Probably won't score much though. I just haven't put the pieces together as to why he keeps getting booted from team to team. Maybe he's a solid player on the field but a cancer in the locker room? I dunno.

 

Joe Jurevicius I've always loved as a player, but I wouldn't take him this high. Especially as a Brown.

 

Eddie Kennison has been pretty solid. I'd be happy with him as my #3/4.

 

Don't care for Porter here. If Oakland implodes again, you will have two rotten chalupas in your pocket.

 

The "honest" guy in Jacksonville is going to be on all of my teams this season. I'm seeing high potential for #2 WR production from him. He probably isn't even getting drafted before Matt Jones, which makes it sweet when you pluck that cherry late.

 

 

 

You might want to find out where these guys are being drafted in mocks and figure out which players you want to target. Just don't pass on Wilford when the time is right.

[Sweetness_34 0]

Only 2 more teams need Qbs so I can probably wait for the back up and still get great value there. WR or TE is where I will be looking at depending on what falls.....one with the 1st pick, one with the 2nd. Also, I need to see what others need between my 8.11 and 9.06. At this time, looking at other rosters is what will help me decide. Everyone is trying to round up their rosters.

 

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Updated:

 

1.01 LJ

1.02 LT

1.03 Shaun Alexander

1.04 Edge

1.05 Steven Jackson

1.06 Tiki Barber (my pick)

1.07 Portis

1.08 Lamont Jordan

1.09 Rudi Johnson

1.10 Caddy

1.11 Ronnie Brown

1.12 Mcgahee

2.01 Westbrook

2.02 Dom Davis

2.03 Steve Smith

2.04 Chad Johnson

2.05 Peyton Manning

2.06 Torry Holt

2.07 TO

2.08 Fitzgerald

2.09 Harrison

2.10 Randy Moss (my pick after trade down from 2.07 => got up from 3.05=>3.06 & 4.10=>5.06 too)

2.11 Boldin

2.12 Julius Jones

3.01 Antonio Gates

3.02 Reggie Bush

3.03 Reggie Wayne

3.04 Jamal Lewis

3.05 Darrell Jackson (My Pick)

3.06 Chris Chambers

3.07 Chester Taylor (your boy scooter )

3.08 Hines Ward

3.09 Kevin Jones

3.10 Reuben Droughns

3.11 Roy Williams/WR

3.12 Willie Parker

4.01 Warrick Dunn

4.02 Santana Moss

4.03 Plaxico Burress

4.04 Joe Horn

4.05 Donald Driver

4.06 Houshmandzadeh

4.07 Carson Palmer (My Pick)

4.08 Jeremy Shockey

4.09 Javon Walker

4.10 Curtis Martin (My Pick)

4.11 Tony Gonzalez

4.12 Tom Brady

5.01 Tatum Bell

5.02 Andre Johnson

5.03 Todd Heap

5.04 Marc Bulger

5.05 Deion Branch

5.06 Cedric Benson

5.07 Joseph Addai

5.08 Thomas Jones

5.09 Corey Dillon

5.10 Matt Hasselback

5.11 Deuce McAllister

5.12 Eli Manning

6.01 Derrick Mason

6.02 Joey Galloway

6.03 Frank Gore

6.04 Alge Crumpler

6.05 Deshaun Foster

6.06 Donovan Mcnabb

6.07 DeAngelo W (my pick)

6.08 Lee Evans

6.09 Nate Burleson

6.10 Laverneous Coles

6.11 Ron Dayne

6.12 Ahman Green

7.01 Fred Taylor

7.02 Dominick Rhodes (My pick: Traded my 7.06, 8.07 and 10.07 for 7.02, 8.11 and 10.11)

7.03 Muhsin Muhammad

7.04 Laurence Maroney

7.05 Michael Vick

7.06 Rod Smith

7.07 Koren Robinson

7.08 Chris Brown

7.09 Mike Clayton

7.10 Reggie Brown

7.11 Culpepper

7.12 Lendale White

8.01 Jason Witten

8.02 Cooley

8.03 LJ Smith

8.04 Drew Bledsoe

8.05 On the clock

 

My next pick - 8.11

 

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Updated Rosters:

 

Angry Squirrels:

RB LaDainian Tomlinson SDC 0.00 1.02 3

RB Reggie Bush FA 0.00 3.02 0

RB Ron Dayne DEN 0.00 6.11 4

WR Anquan Boldin ARI 0.00 2.11 9

WR Andre Johnson HOU 0.00 5.02 5

WR Rod Smith DEN 0.00 7.06 4

TE Tony Gonzalez KCC 0.00 4.11 3

 

$teelerMike

QB Tom Brady NEP 0.00 5.01 6

RB Larry Johnson KCC 0.00 1.01 3

RB Julius Jones DAL 0.00 2.12 3

RB Tatum Bell DEN 0.00 4.12 4

RB Ahman Green GBP 0.00 6.12 6

RB Fred Taylor JAC 0.00 7.01 6

TE Antonio Gates SDC 0.00 3.01 3

 

Ohio River-Rats

QB Matt Hasselbeck SEA 0.00 5.10 5

RB Edgerrin James IND 0.00 1.04 6

RB Reuben Droughns CLE 0.00 3.10 6

RB Frank Gore SFO 0.00 6.03 7

WR Marvin Harrison IND 0.00 2.09 6

WR Javon Walker GBP 0.00 4.09 6

WR Reggie Brown PHI 0.00 7.10 9

TE L.J. Smith PHI 0.00 8.03 9

 

Flying Ostriches (this guy traded out of 1.03 - the Shaun Alexander pick)

RB Willie Parker PIT 0.00 3.12 4

RB Warrick Dunn ATL 0.00 4.01 5

RB DeShaun Foster CAR 0.00 6.05 9

RB Chris Brown TEN 0.00 7.08 7

WR Terrell Owens PHI 0.00 2.07 9

WR Larry Fitzgerald ARI 0.00 2.08 9

WR Chris Chambers MIA 0.00 3.06 8

TE Todd Heap BAL 0.00 5.03 7

 

Prairie Oysters

QB Marc Bulger STL 0.00 5.04 7

RB Carnell Williams TBB 0.00 1.10 4

RB Jamal Lewis BAL 0.00 3.04 7

RB Laurence Maroney FA 0.00 7.04 0

WR Steve Smith CAR 0.00 2.03 9

WR Plaxico Burress NYG 0.00 4.03 4

WR Nate Burleson MIN 0.00 6.09 6

 

Keyser Soze

QB Daunte Culpepper MIN 0.00 7.11 6

RB Ronnie Brown MIA 0.00 1.11 8

RB Domanick Davis HOU 0.00 2.02 5

RB Deuce McAllister NOS 0.00 5.11 7

WR Roy Williams DET 0.00 3.11 8

WR Santana Moss WAS 0.00 4.02 8

WR Joey Galloway TBB 0.00 6.02 4

TE Chris Cooley WAS 0.00 8.02 8

 

BerthaC (this guy traded up for 1.03 by giving up the 2/3/4 rounders)

QB Michael Vick ATL 0.00 7.05 5

RB Shaun Alexander SEA 0.00 1.03 5

RB Steven Jackson STL 0.00 1.05 7

WR Deion Branch NEP 0.00 5.05 6

WR Lee Evans BUF 0.00 6.08 8

WR Laveranues Coles NYJ 0.00 6.10 9

WR Muhsin Muhammad CHI 0.00 7.03 7

 

Vipers

QB Eli Manning NYG 0.00 5.12 4

RB Willis McGahee BUF 0.00 1.12 8

RB Brian Westbrook PHI 0.00 2.01 9

RB Lendale White FA 0.00 7.12 0

WR Reggie Wayne IND 0.00 3.03 6

WR Derrick Mason BAL 0.00 6.01 7

TE Jeremy Shockey NYG 0.00 4.08 4

 

Feisty Ferrets

QB Donovan McNabb PHI 0.00 6.06 9

RB Clinton Portis WAS 0.00 1.07 8

RB Chester Taylor BAL 0.00 3.07 7

RB Joseph Addai FA 0.00 5.07 0

WR Torry Holt STL 0.00 2.06 7

WR TJ Houshmandzadeh CIN 0.00 4.06 5

WR Koren Robinson MIN 0.00 7.07 6

 

Godzilla

QB Drew Bledsoe DAL 0.00 8.04 3

RB Rudi Johnson CIN 0.00 1.09 5

RB Kevin Jones DET 0.00 3.09 8

RB Corey Dillon NEP 0.00 5.09 6

WR Chad Johnson CIN 0.00 2.04 5

WR Joe Horn NOS 0.00 4.04 7

WR Michael Clayton TBB 0.00 7.09 4

TE Alge Crumpler ATL 0.00 6.04 5

 

Steagles

QB Peyton Manning IND 0.00 2.05 6

RB LaMont Jordan OAK 0.00 1.08 3

RB Cedric Benson CHI 0.00 5.06 7

RB Thomas Jones CHI 0.00 5.08 7

WR Hines Ward PIT 0.00 3.08 4

WR Donald Driver GBP 0.00 4.05 6

TE Jason Witten DAL 0.00 8.01 3

 

Da Bears (My team)

QB Carson Palmer CIN 0.00 4.07 5

RB Tiki Barber NYG 0.00 1.06 4

RB Curtis Martin NYJ 0.00 4.10 9

RB DeAngelo Williams FA 0.00 6.07 0

RB Dominic Rhodes IND 0.00 7.02 6

WR Randy Moss OAK 0.00 2.10 3

WR Darrell Jackson SEA 0.00 3.05 5

[Da Bomb 0]

well the bad news is that you missed the potential stars at TE. the good news is that i guess you can wait now for a few rounds, since there are about 8 or so with decent potential and a few of them will be around in the 11th and 12 still im sure.

 

i think you need to look hard at drew bennett, donte stallworth, jerry porter, and eddie kennison at WR -- in that order.

 

also, be aware that even though 10 teams have QBs now, this is also the area coming up where people start taking backup QBs. so you need to decide how important it is for you to get a good backup QB. if you want to be sure you get a solid one, you probably need to do it in the 9th. if youre willing to wait and accept a lesser qb, then you have a chance to pick up two very solid WRs here. and again if you go the 2 WR route, i would try to get one steadier type (kennison, keenan, keyshawn, etc) and one upside type (bennett, stalls, porter, krob, wilford, etc). that would round out your WRs very nicely.

[Sweetness_34 0]

Actually I see Randy M to have the same kind of #s as a Witten, Cooley, LJ SMith especially with Culpepper throwing the rock

 

If he falls to me, I will consider it. The guy is good for 60 catches at least and that is very good value in a PPR league.

 

Updated:

 

1.01 LJ

1.02 LT

1.03 Shaun Alexander

1.04 Edge

1.05 Steven Jackson

1.06 Tiki Barber (my pick)

1.07 Portis

1.08 Lamont Jordan

1.09 Rudi Johnson

1.10 Caddy

1.11 Ronnie Brown

1.12 Mcgahee

2.01 Westbrook

2.02 Dom Davis

2.03 Steve Smith

2.04 Chad Johnson

2.05 Peyton Manning

2.06 Torry Holt

2.07 TO

2.08 Fitzgerald

2.09 Harrison

2.10 Randy Moss (my pick after trade down from 2.07 => got up from 3.05=>3.06 & 4.10=>5.06 too)

2.11 Boldin

2.12 Julius Jones

3.01 Antonio Gates

3.02 Reggie Bush

3.03 Reggie Wayne

3.04 Jamal Lewis

3.05 Darrell Jackson (My Pick)

3.06 Chris Chambers

3.07 Chester Taylor (your boy scooter )

3.08 Hines Ward

3.09 Kevin Jones

3.10 Reuben Droughns

3.11 Roy Williams/WR

3.12 Willie Parker

4.01 Warrick Dunn

4.02 Santana Moss

4.03 Plaxico Burress

4.04 Joe Horn

4.05 Donald Driver

4.06 Houshmandzadeh

4.07 Carson Palmer (My Pick)

4.08 Jeremy Shockey

4.09 Javon Walker

4.10 Curtis Martin (My Pick)

4.11 Tony Gonzalez

4.12 Tom Brady

5.01 Tatum Bell

5.02 Andre Johnson

5.03 Todd Heap

5.04 Marc Bulger

5.05 Deion Branch

5.06 Cedric Benson

5.07 Joseph Addai

5.08 Thomas Jones

5.09 Corey Dillon

5.10 Matt Hasselback

5.11 Deuce McAllister

5.12 Eli Manning

6.01 Derrick Mason

6.02 Joey Galloway

6.03 Frank Gore

6.04 Alge Crumpler

6.05 Deshaun Foster

6.06 Donovan Mcnabb

6.07 DeAngelo W (my pick)

6.08 Lee Evans

6.09 Nate Burleson

6.10 Laverneous Coles

6.11 Ron Dayne

6.12 Ahman Green

7.01 Fred Taylor

7.02 Dominick Rhodes (My pick: Traded my 7.06, 8.07 and 10.07 for 7.02, 8.11 and 10.11)

7.03 Muhsin Muhammad

7.04 Laurence Maroney

7.05 Michael Vick

7.06 Rod Smith

7.07 Koren Robinson

7.08 Chris Brown

7.09 Mike Clayton

7.10 Reggie Brown

7.11 Culpepper

7.12 Lendale White

8.01 Jason Witten

8.02 Cooley

8.03 LJ Smith

8.04 Drew Bledsoe

8.05 Jake Delhomme

8.06 Marion Barber

8.07 Sam Gado

8.08 Kevan Barlow

8.09 Prairie Oyster

8.10 Vipers

8.11 My Pick

 

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Updated Rosters:

 

Angry Squirrels:

RB LaDainian Tomlinson SDC 0.00 1.02 3

RB Reggie Bush FA 0.00 3.02 0

RB Ron Dayne DEN 0.00 6.11 4

RB Sam Gado GBP 0.00 8.07 6

WR Anquan Boldin ARI 0.00 2.11 9

WR Andre Johnson HOU 0.00 5.02 5

WR Rod Smith DEN 0.00 7.06 4

TE Tony Gonzalez KCC 0.00 4.11 3

 

$teelerMike

QB Tom Brady NEP 0.00 5.01 6

RB Larry Johnson KCC 0.00 1.01 3

RB Julius Jones DAL 0.00 2.12 3

RB Tatum Bell DEN 0.00 4.12 4

RB Ahman Green GBP 0.00 6.12 6

RB Fred Taylor JAC 0.00 7.01 6

TE Antonio Gates SDC 0.00 3.01 3

 

Ohio River-Rats

QB Matt Hasselbeck SEA 0.00 5.10 5

RB Edgerrin James IND 0.00 1.04 6

RB Reuben Droughns CLE 0.00 3.10 6

RB Frank Gore SFO 0.00 6.03 7

WR Marvin Harrison IND 0.00 2.09 6

WR Javon Walker GBP 0.00 4.09 6

WR Reggie Brown PHI 0.00 7.10 9

TE L.J. Smith PHI 0.00 8.03 9

 

Flying Ostriches (this guy traded out of 1.03 - the Shaun Alexander pick)

QB Jake Delhomme CAR 0.00 8.05 9

RB Willie Parker PIT 0.00 3.12 4

RB Warrick Dunn ATL 0.00 4.01 5

RB DeShaun Foster CAR 0.00 6.05 9

RB Chris Brown TEN 0.00 7.08 7

WR Terrell Owens PHI 0.00 2.07 9

WR Larry Fitzgerald ARI 0.00 2.08 9

WR Chris Chambers MIA 0.00 3.06 8

TE Todd Heap BAL 0.00 5.03 7

 

Prairie Oysters

QB Marc Bulger STL 0.00 5.04 7

RB Carnell Williams TBB 0.00 1.10 4

RB Jamal Lewis BAL 0.00 3.04 7

RB Laurence Maroney FA 0.00 7.04 0

WR Steve Smith CAR 0.00 2.03 9

WR Plaxico Burress NYG 0.00 4.03 4

WR Nate Burleson MIN 0.00 6.09 6

 

Keyser Soze

QB Daunte Culpepper MIN 0.00 7.11 6

RB Ronnie Brown MIA 0.00 1.11 8

RB Domanick Davis HOU 0.00 2.02 5

RB Deuce McAllister NOS 0.00 5.11 7

WR Roy Williams DET 0.00 3.11 8

WR Santana Moss WAS 0.00 4.02 8

WR Joey Galloway TBB 0.00 6.02 4

TE Chris Cooley WAS 0.00 8.02 8

 

BerthaC (this guy traded up for 1.03 by giving up the 2/3/4 rounders)

QB Michael Vick ATL 0.00 7.05 5

RB Shaun Alexander SEA 0.00 1.03 5

RB Steven Jackson STL 0.00 1.05 7

RB Kevan Barlow SFO 0.00 8.08 7

WR Deion Branch NEP 0.00 5.05 6

WR Lee Evans BUF 0.00 6.08 8

WR Laveranues Coles NYJ 0.00 6.10 9

WR Muhsin Muhammad CHI 0.00 7.03 7

 

Vipers

QB Eli Manning NYG 0.00 5.12 4

RB Willis McGahee BUF 0.00 1.12 8

RB Brian Westbrook PHI 0.00 2.01 9

RB Lendale White FA 0.00 7.12 0

WR Reggie Wayne IND 0.00 3.03 6

WR Derrick Mason BAL 0.00 6.01 7

TE Jeremy Shockey NYG 0.00 4.08 4

 

Feisty Ferrets

QB Donovan McNabb PHI 0.00 6.06 9

RB Clinton Portis WAS 0.00 1.07 8

RB Chester Taylor BAL 0.00 3.07 7

RB Joseph Addai FA 0.00 5.07 0

RB Marion III Barber DAL 0.00 8.06 3

WR Torry Holt STL 0.00 2.06 7

WR TJ Houshmandzadeh CIN 0.00 4.06 5

WR Koren Robinson MIN 0.00 7.07 6

 

Godzilla

QB Drew Bledsoe DAL 0.00 8.04 3

RB Rudi Johnson CIN 0.00 1.09 5

RB Kevin Jones DET 0.00 3.09 8

RB Corey Dillon NEP 0.00 5.09 6

WR Chad Johnson CIN 0.00 2.04 5

WR Joe Horn NOS 0.00 4.04 7

WR Michael Clayton TBB 0.00 7.09 4

TE Alge Crumpler ATL 0.00 6.04 5

 

Steagles

QB Peyton Manning IND 0.00 2.05 6

RB LaMont Jordan OAK 0.00 1.08 3

RB Cedric Benson CHI 0.00 5.06 7

RB Thomas Jones CHI 0.00 5.08 7

WR Hines Ward PIT 0.00 3.08 4

WR Donald Driver GBP 0.00 4.05 6

TE Jason Witten DAL 0.00 8.01 3

 

Da Bears (My team)

QB Carson Palmer CIN 0.00 4.07 5

RB Tiki Barber NYG 0.00 1.06 4

RB Curtis Martin NYJ 0.00 4.10 9

RB DeAngelo Williams FA 0.00 6.07 0

RB Dominic Rhodes IND 0.00 7.02 6

WR Randy Moss OAK 0.00 2.10 3

WR Darrell Jackson SEA 0.00 3.05 5

[Steel City Blues 0]

its fun to point out anquan boldin, but how many top 10 WRs have been on waivers in the last 5 years? who else other than boldin?

 

 

There are guys every year that come from nowhere. Realisticly you won't land more than 1 of them unless you get very lucky.

 

I only have the last 3 years handy, but there were definitely the same results in 02 & 01.

 

Last year, Kevin Curtis (got him) was the no name that flew up the charts. Barring injury, he'd have been top 10 material. He might be a sleeper again this year as no one has recommended him to Sweetness yet. One injury on that roster to Holt or old man Bruce & he's an instant star.

Glenn #6 and GoAway #11 were also nice surprises. (Who knows, Glenn could be the WR he is targeting with his next pick along with Bennett / Keenan / Porter / Kennison / etc etc etc) Plenty of solid guys left.

 

2004

Mush

Drew Bennett

Nate Burleson

Stokely (got him)

 

2003

Javon Walker (got him)

Santana Moss

McCardell (got him)

 

Can't remember the years for these guys, but I had them in their respective breakout years.

Joe Horn

Donald Driver

TJ Housh

 

Not all of these WR were top 10, but definitely top 20 and were generally projected much worse if at all.

 

 

 

I feel like I'm defending SteelerMike here, which is not what I'm trying to do. It's all speculation. This guy could just be a moron that heard RB win championships & took it too far.

 

Like Scooter said, if this guy lands a top 10 value receiver off the WW or @ the end of the draft, his team has a contender smell to it. SM could also pull it off by packaging a Kennison type receiver with a starting RB to get a good WR. Or do BOTH!

 

 

 

Soooo, best case scenario...SM lands a "Boldin" off the WW or at the end of the draft & trades one of his bottom 3 RB with a #4 WR for a #2 WR. This is definitely the hard way, but realistic if he's good at finding one stud WR for nothing. *choughWilfodcough*

Then his team will be:

 

#1 FF tight end will gain ground most weeks here

Top 5 QB, won't lose ground here & usually grade out on the +

RB tandem will out perform most other teams every week with LJ alone. RB2 numbers are just icing.

WR core that can hold it's own. May not win the matchup most weeks, but won't kill him either.

 

 

I wouldn't recommend doing it this way, but it could pay off for the man.

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I went ahead and picked up Jerry Porter. Only 2 more teams need TEs and with Clark, Vernon Davis, Heath Miller still there, I can get one of them and still back him up with a Jeremy Stevens, Ben Troupe, Ben Watson or Kellen Winslow

 

I might target another WR next pick and then go TEs and QB crazy to round off the team. I will need one more WR too (5th WR) since Jerry and Randy will have same bye week.

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Steeler Mike finally picked some WRs.....Stallworth and Drew Bennett as his #1 and #2 WRs

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Steeler Mike finally picked some WRs.....Stallworth and Drew Bennett as his #1 and #2 WRs

 

man, thats actually not a bad 1-2 punch at all. one of them shouldve been on your roster imo. thank God the guy with the two great RBs didnt get that combo this late. makes me wonder though......

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Steeler Mike finally picked some WRs.....Stallworth and Drew Bennett as his #1 and #2 WRs

 

why the dancing banana? Those are both breakout possibilities IMO. I totally respect those picks. If he gets Wilford too, I'd take those 3 as solid options every week with the stud RB tandem carrying the load. Teams like that often get these =>

 

That team just became dangerous as hell. Now he may not have to deal, unless he really wants an upgrade if somethingon his roster isn't working out.

 

Far from your suggestion that "his season is over", I think his team is somewhat better than yours. Given the choice, I'd take his every time.

 

Hey, one man's opinion. No offense.

 

man, thats actually not a bad 1-2 punch at all. one of them shouldve been on your roster imo. thank God the guy with the two great RBs didnt get that combo this late. makes me wonder though......

 

My god - I agree with Da Bomb on something! :::gasp!:::

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In Norm Chow's offense, the TEs get a lot of passes. Then add to that the fact that their 2 2nd year WRs, Brandon Jones and someone else will be also taking a lot of the targets, Drew Bennett just does not strike any fear in me. See his #s last year. Yes, he had those crazy 4 weeks 2 years back with Volek, but that was with Mason taking the double teams on the other side. With Mason gone, Bennett is useless.

 

Just my 2 cents.....

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So you actually chose JERRY PORTER ahead of all those others everyone suggested? Youve got to be kidding me. Before even Stallworth or Terry Glenn or Kennison or basically anyone else on another team besides Moss' team??? Ive got to tell you, I wasnt crazy about either of those WR picks up to that point thru 3 rounds because they are both an injury risk imo, but then you waited nearly 6 rounds to pick up a mediocre guy on the same team as your lead guy?? In a start 3 WR league?? Im shaking my head right now.....