Electric Uncle Sam 0 Posted June 6, 2006 12 team H2H league. 6 pts all TD's 1 per 10 rushing/recieving .5 per recp Each keeper costs their draft round. So for example by keeping LT I will lose my 2nd round draft pick. So which 3 of these 5 would you keep??? RB LT........2 RB Tiki......1 RB Parker.....6 WR Chambers...5 TE Gates........9 Gates as a 9 is a no brainer LT as 2 is also pretty much a sure thing The big question for me is the 3rd keeper...Tiki is awesome, but I lose my 1st pick 8th overall for him. Should I keep Parker as a 6 instead? My thinking is Paker & say a top teir WR would outproduce Tiki & a 6th round pick, unless I got lucky in the 6th. Hell maybe I need to keep Chambers as a 5th. Need some input here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carmo911 2 Posted June 6, 2006 Depending on how many owners are drafting in the first round and who other keepers are. If there are a lot of owners drafting in the first round then I would keepr Tiki because he won't make it to you and especially if all other running back talent in being kept. You can pick up the other guys later in the draft. If you think Tiki will make it to you at eight overall then I would keep Chambers. But IMO I would keep Tiki no matter the situation. LT, Tiki and Gates is a solid start to a productive team. Good Luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WoodDuck2003 0 Posted June 6, 2006 No Brainer IMO. LT, Gates, and Parker. If you really want Tiki you might still be able to get him with your first pick. However, by doing this you solidify 3 key positions and might be able to land a top tier WR with your 1st pick and look for a value pick for your RB3. Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildman 0 Posted June 6, 2006 I'm on the other side of the fence. Keep Barber. If your league has savvy players, there's no way Tiki Barber falls to the #8 spot in the first round. You'd be lucky to get him at the 5 or 6 spot in this league becuase I doubt there will be as valuable a back as Barber on the market! FWP is not even in the same class as Tiki Barber and will likely be ceding time to Haynes and Staley in the red zone. It's much easier to find a stud WR deeper in the draft than a true stud RB. If you can keep Barber, Gates, and LT...I'd be much happier with that combo and picking in the 3rd round rather than FWP, getting a possible stud WR in the 1st round (while ignoring a likely better RB that's available to get that WR), and then hoping you strike gold later on a back. Especially in a point per reception league were Barber's value goes up as well... Unles you want to take the bigger risk and believe with a 3rd pick you can get Bush or Addai and with your first get a true stud receiver: Fitz, Owens, Boldin, Johnson, Holt, S. Smith, R. Moss(?). Then maybe it's good to consider. If none of those guys are going to be on the market...forget about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electric Uncle Sam 0 Posted June 6, 2006 Tiki would go #1 or #2 overall in the draft. No doubt. With my 8th pick overall I would have WRs like Moss & maybe TO or Holt available. It's just is FWP + TO > Tiki & someone like Keyshawn is the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Money 4 Posted June 6, 2006 considering there's 36 total keepers i don't think you'll be able to get a 2nd rb of tiki's value with your #8 overall pick, if you're lucky you'd be able to get him back but i doubt it. I'd keep LT, Tiki, and Gates and laugh all the way to the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gangles 0 Posted June 7, 2006 considering there's 36 total keepers i don't think you'll be able to get a 2nd rb of tiki's value with your #8 overall pick, if you're lucky you'd be able to get him back but i doubt it. I'd keep LT, Tiki, and Gates and laugh all the way to the playoffs. LT and Tiki can carry your team. Assuming other people in your league are in love with RBs and hold on to them you might find some decent WR talent in the 2nd and 3rd round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted June 7, 2006 LT for a 2nd Rounder = No brainer Gates for a 9th Rounder = Even bigger no brainer Parker is coming off most boards about 4th round, so he's a bargain for a 6th rounder Chambers is coming off most boards in the 3rd round as a top 10 WR, again a bargain Tiki as #1 is right on...and there's NO WAY he'll be hanging around at the #8 spot (unless you play w/ idiots) So your decision boils down to this...do you hang on to two #1 backs (LT and Tiki) and weaken yourself at WR (by not getting a crack at one until 3rd round) in the process OR keep #1 RB (LT), a chance at #2 RB/WR (at #8 spot) and borderline #1 WR (Chambers, who i'm not sold on) I say keep the two #1 RB and look for the best available WR in Rounds 3 & 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chao22mien 0 Posted June 8, 2006 LT for a 2nd Rounder = No brainerGates for a 9th Rounder = Even bigger no brainer Parker is coming off most boards about 4th round, so he's a bargain for a 6th rounder Chambers is coming off most boards in the 3rd round as a top 10 WR, again a bargain Tiki as #1 is right on...and there's NO WAY he'll be hanging around at the #8 spot (unless you play w/ idiots) So your decision boils down to this...do you hang on to two #1 backs (LT and Tiki) and weaken yourself at WR (by not getting a crack at one until 3rd round) in the process OR keep #1 RB (LT), a chance at #2 RB/WR (at #8 spot) and borderline #1 WR (Chambers, who i'm not sold on) I say keep the two #1 RB and look for the best available WR in Rounds 3 & 4. HOw did Gates go in the 9th round..w/e league it is i m confused Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treewarden 1 Posted June 9, 2006 HOw did Gates go in the 9th round..w/e league it is i m confused More importantly, how did LT go in the 2nd round? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electric Uncle Sam 0 Posted June 9, 2006 Why does everyone assume keeper leagues are one year old is the better question???? I drafted Gates 2 years ago, b4 he exploded on the scene as a hunch in the 9th round & obviously I kept him. Thats how he is a 9th rounder. LT was drafted in the 2nd round as a rookie as has been kept ever since. That is how LT is a 2nd rounder. Think b4 you type, it really does help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cblue 0 Posted June 12, 2006 Why does everyone assume keeper leagues are one year old is the better question???? I drafted Gates 2 years ago, b4 he exploded on the scene as a hunch in the 9th round & obviously I kept him. Thats how he is a 9th rounder. LT was drafted in the 2nd round as a rookie as has been kept ever since. That is how LT is a 2nd rounder. Think b4 you type, it really does help. I thin..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eo11 0 Posted June 14, 2006 It is almost impossible to give you a perfect call with out a little more information but I personally would be inclined to lean toward Parker who gives you the value of him and a better pick. The Steelers look to be very much in a situation where they will have to use Willie Parker more, especially if Ben's recovery is slow. The Giants will ahve to open up the passing offense a little bit this year if for no other reason than to accomidate Eli's progression. Add to that the pretty much certainy of Brandon Jacobs cutting into Tiki's touches and vulturing his TDs. It depends a lot on whom you have a chance to get in the first, but if you have a shot at a proven #1 WR or a younger #1 running back with the higher pick, then Parker seems the easy choice to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete2432 0 Posted June 15, 2006 I definately go LT, Tiki, and Gates You have 2 first round rbs and the best te your 3rd round pick will get you a pretty decent #1 wr because wont many other people be giving up there 1st and 2nd round picks too? Parker scares me because you dont know if he will get TDs so i think hes a very low #2 rb but a good #3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHill84006 0 Posted June 16, 2006 I'd keep LT, Chambers, and Gates. Parker worries me in PIT. Sure he'll get yards, but what bothers me is the goal line carries, and the TDs he'll lose. Chambers should flourish this year with Culpepper at QB. He is pretty young, and should have many more productive seasons. He did pretty good with the sub par QBs he had there last year, could you imagine what he can do with a good QB?? (think C-Pep/Moss in MIN). And I agree LT and Gates are no-brainers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eo11 0 Posted June 19, 2006 I'd keep LT, Chambers, and Gates. Parker worries me in PIT. Sure he'll get yards, but what bothers me is the goal line carries, and the TDs he'll lose. Chambers should flourish this year with Culpepper at QB. He is pretty young, and should have many more productive seasons. He did pretty good with the sub par QBs he had there last year, could you imagine what he can do with a good QB?? (think C-Pep/Moss in MIN). And I agree LT and Gates are no-brainers. The oft injured Chambers is a ? no matter who is playing QB, already this year he has sprained his ankle. Not sayign he cannot be something and extend on his season last year but the flip side is you never know when he will just disappear because of some mistery injury that lingers longer than it should. I would be careful building to much around Chambers. I also question is Culpepper a good QB? Minnesota was quick to jetison him and he certainly looked ordinary with out Randy. While I cannot claim to be the biggest Fast Willie fan at least with Parker you know; he is on a team that has a good Oline (Miami does not), a defense that can stop the run and get them the ball back (to be seen in Miami), and an offensive system that invents ways to get the ball into guys hands. Not to come down too hard on Miami but I certainly feel Parker is much safer bet than Chambers at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electric Uncle Sam 0 Posted June 20, 2006 Thanks for all the input so far.... I am leaning away from Chambers at this point & still debating the Tiki vs FWP decision. I have less than 10 days to make my decision. Please keep the opinions coming it really does help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WoodDuck2003 0 Posted June 20, 2006 I am going to go against the grain a little here. I say keep LT for sure, Parker and Chambers. With your 8th pick you can get a stud WR then starting with your 3rd rd pick you can start picking the best player. Look at it this way: Keep LT/Parker/Chambers your team may look like this: LT/Parker/Harrison/Chambers Keep LT/Tiki/Chambers your team may look like this: LT/Tiki/Chambers/Porter I personally like the first scenerio the best. Since the the bus is gone and PIT is a run team I can see Willie having for sure a top 10 year and will have very similar stats to Tiki. However, the drop off from Harrison to Chambers is a little bigger and if Chambers does come through in scenerio on you could even have 2 #1 RBs and 2 #1 WRs. This is JMO, good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electric Uncle Sam 0 Posted June 20, 2006 I am going to go against the grain a little here. I say keep LT for sure, Parker and Chambers. With your 8th pick you can get a stud WR then starting with your 3rd rd pick you can start picking the best player. Look at it this way: Keep LT/Parker/Chambers your team may look like this: LT/Parker/Harrison/Chambers Keep LT/Tiki/Chambers your team may look like this: LT/Tiki/Chambers/Porter I personally like the first scenerio the best. Since the the bus is gone and PIT is a run team I can see Willie having for sure a top 10 year and will have very similar stats to Tiki. However, the drop off from Harrison to Chambers is a little bigger and if Chambers does come through in scenerio on you could even have 2 #1 RBs and 2 #1 WRs. This is JMO, good luck. So just to get this straight you rather I keep Chambers as a 5th round pick instead of Antonio Gates as a 9th round pick??? I appreciate the advice but Gates as a 9th rounder is an absolute must keeper for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jackson Biggs 0 Posted June 21, 2006 another vote for tiki, Lt, Gates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 0 Posted June 21, 2006 wow this is tough because Tiki, LT, and Gates is a trio that would likely carry your team to the playoffs BUT an injury to anyone would seriously hamper your team. Do you have any idea what wideouts might be available? In the end, I feel that keeping Tiki is the right move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electric Uncle Sam 0 Posted June 21, 2006 wow this is tough because Tiki, LT, and Gates is a trio that would likely carry your team to the playoffs BUT an injury to anyone would seriously hamper your team. Do you have any idea what wideouts might be available? In the end, I feel that keeping Tiki is the right move. I wish I knew, but I wont until all the keepers are turned in, & you cant make changes after that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erb047 0 Posted June 21, 2006 Gates, LT2, and Chambers. Chambers is going to have a good year. Tiki....Im not feelin it and I think you could grab a better choice with the 8th pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notJames 0 Posted June 21, 2006 One more vote for LT, Gates, and Tiki. Barber's got another good year in him, in an offense that is improving every day. Now, maybe you can help me out… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cntblah 0 Posted June 23, 2006 Gates, LT, Chambers - assuming Culpepper continues to progress in MIA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timinator 0 Posted June 23, 2006 WRs are much easier to uncover than RBs are. Chambers is out before this thread even starts. And LT and Gates are in before the post is made. The question is: Tiki #1 vs FWP #6. My head says Tiki, but my gut says Parker. The value is amazing for a starting RB on top team. Parker could be on your squad for years as a #6. Tiki is good, but he's getting older and I don't like the NYG schedule. It's a gamble I would be excited to try. What will be the feast at 1.8?! You'd have a helluva team and still have the luxury to get all jicky-jacked over the draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electric Uncle Sam 0 Posted June 23, 2006 Dman this is one of the hardest decisions I have ever had to make in fantasy sports career..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electric Uncle Sam 0 Posted June 30, 2006 Last day...I have to make my keeper selections by 3 pm tomarrow....any last thoughts??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biglou 2 Posted July 1, 2006 Is there anybody who might be available in the first round worth losing Tiki. If LJ, Alexander, TO, or Moss won't be there, it wont be worth it. I think Tiki will put up great numbers this year, although I'm looking for him to lose goaline touches to their big bruiser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites