Why is Ronnie Brown's ADP higher than Caddy's?

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Glenn?....what you talking about?

 

I believe he's talking about 62-1136-7

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1254

 

 

i believe he's talking about Galloway (which would be 83-1287-10), unless TB and DAL pulled off a trade we all missed...

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Caddy last year had 3 good games to start the year -- the first 2 of which were actually averge at best except for 1 big run in both games.

you can't say that. it's silly. "well, he wouldn't have had a big game without that 1 big TD run" - please. Obviously it wouldn't have been, but he did so it was. Reality gets in the way of reasoning like this Moz.

 

He had one great game against Carolina which was impressive but looked quite average against almost everyone elese save Atlanta who was a running back doormat anyway.

 

Ronnie Brown when he was allowed to get in a groove proved to have the makings of a really solid RB and maybe even top 3 in a few years. The guy is big , can fly , and runs with power to break tackles and run strong at the stripe. He is also maybe the Dolphins 3rd grestest reciever which helps also.

 

I just think Ronnie B got a lot larger upside than Caddy

 

JMO

 

I think both backs have talent. I think Caddy is a slightly better power runner while Rb is more of a speed threat to the outside.

 

I just looked over schedules, and while normally not an SOS guy, since I think these two are close I decided to check. Caddy faces the Bears & Steelers in 15 and 16. Ouch.

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you can't say that. it's silly. "well, he wouldn't have had a big game without that 1 big TD run" - please. Obviously it wouldn't have been, but he did so it was. Reality gets in the way of reasoning like this Moz.

 

Agreed.

 

I just looked over schedules, and while normally not an SOS guy, since I think these two are close I decided to check. Caddy faces the Bears & Steelers in 15 and 16. Ouch.

 

Tampa faces Cleveland week 16, not Pittsburgh. The Bears can be run on. What you don't want to do against Chicago is throw a lot. If Simms turns out better than Grossman, Tampa should control the game and Caddy would have a solid day against the Bears. vNew England week 14 could be a tough game for Ronnie, but weeks 15 and 16 (@Buf, vNYJ) are ok matchups. I don't think the playoff SOS is different enough to break a tie between these two players.

[listen2me 23 1,972]

Glenn?....what you talking about?

 

I believe he's talking about 62-1136-7

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1254

 

If he was talking about Terry Glenn then why would he be putting him in with Caddy's supporting cast?....

 

unless you both think Glenn plays for the Bucs....

 

[t.j 35]

If he was talking about Terry Glenn then why would he be putting him in with Caddy's supporting cast?....

 

unless you both think Glenn plays for the Bucs....

 

 

Earth to l2m23: He didn't put Glenn in with Caddy's supporting cast. I think he was saying Clayton will up numbers like Glenn did as an in-between #1/#2 WR last year (same role as Clayton should have this year, albeit with a different team). Read it again: "I think he proves last year was an aberration and actually steps up w/ #'s similar to Glenn this year."

[listen2me 23 1,972]

Earth to l2m23: He didn't put Glenn in with Caddy's supporting cast. I think he was saying Clayton will up numbers like Glenn did as an in-between #1/#2 WR last year (same role as Clayton should have this year, albeit with a different team). Read it again: "I think he proves last year was an aberration and actually steps up w/ #'s similar to Glenn this year."

 

EARTH to TJ......he also said...."I think I take RB's supporting cast (CPep, Chambers, McMichael and Booker) over Caddy's (Simms, Glenn, Clayton and Smith)"

 

come on dude read it all....its not that hard...you may want to read it again...unless your drunk and can't see clearly...

 

I mean it's not this big of a deal...but actually look at his post, before you comment back....you most likely didn't even read his whole post to begin with...

[famousb 11]

You can have Booker, I'll take Clayton. I think he proves last year was an aberration and actually steps up w/ #'s similar to Glenn this year. All things considered, I think I take RB's supporting cast (CPep, Chambers, McMichael and Booker) over Caddy's (Simms, Glenn, Clayton and Smith) at this point until Clayton wipes away last year, Glenn goes another season and AlexSmith (TE) proves himself. I just think Caddy is the better pure RB, while RBrown is the more physically gifted back. Again though, I think you can't go wrong w/ either of them sitting late 1st round early 2nd.

 

 

Earth to l2m23: He didn't put Glenn in with Caddy's supporting cast. I think he was saying Clayton will up numbers like Glenn did as an in-between #1/#2 WR last year (same role as Clayton should have this year, albeit with a different team). Read it again: "I think he proves last year was an aberration and actually steps up w/ #'s similar to Glenn this year."

 

w/ the first sentence i think you can possibly say he meant Glenn. but then when he puts "(Simms, Glenn, Clayton, Smith) at this point until Clayton wipes away last year, Glenn goes another season and AlexSmith (TE) proves himself. "

it's pretty hard to think he didn't just mistate who he was talking about...

 

unless your drunk and can't see clearly...

i wish i was drunk right now.

[Texansfan 0]

1) Mike Alstott steals TDs

2) Michael Pittman steals 3rd downs & catches

3) Chris Simms sucks

 

 

Any other questions?

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w/ the first sentence i think you can possibly say he meant Glenn. but then when he puts "(Simms, Glenn, Clayton, Smith) at this point until Clayton wipes away last year, Glenn goes another season and AlexSmith (TE) proves himself. "

it's pretty hard to think he didn't just mistate who he was talking about...

i wish i was drunk right now.

 

me too

[t.j 35]

EARTH to TJ......he also said...."I think I take RB's supporting cast (CPep, Chambers, McMichael and Booker) over Caddy's (Simms, Glenn, Clayton and Smith)"

 

I missed that part. Ok, then it's quite obvious he meant Galloway. Thus, no need for your smartass "Glenn?....what you talking about? " post to begin with.

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I missed that part. Ok, then it's quite obvious he meant Galloway. Thus, no need for your smartass "Glenn?....what you talking about? " post to begin with.

 

ok...

 

sorry....i didnt know if he thought Glenn played for them or if in fact he was talking about Galloway.....

 

I apologize greatly....

[famousb 11]

1) Mike Alstott steals TDs

2) Michael Pittman steals 3rd downs & catches

3) Chris Simms sucks

Any other questions?

 

1. Alstott had a total of 7 tds. Alstott had a total of 16 carries from inside the 20 and only 34 total carries all year. Caddy had 32 redzone carries. Caddy also got 13 of the "and goal to go" carries while Alstott only had 11.

 

2. Exactly what games are you referring to Pittman stealing 3rd downs? as i previously posted w/ Pittman:

with Pittman, he doesn't worry me at all considering the highest number of carries he had in any game last year was 15 in wk6, and 13 in wk5 - the two weeks Caddy was injured... The only other time he had over 5 carries was week 2 when he got a whopping 7 carries after Caddy had already put up 24 for 128 and 1td in a 19-3 win over BUF...

Those #s show me that Gruden didn't have a whole lot of love for Pittman last year, and i haven't heard of that changing much this year...

also, only 9 of Pittman's carries actually came on 3rd down alomg w/ a whopping 13 rec's...

 

3. Brees sucked for 2 years w/ LT, and that ruined LT's fantasy numbers too, right?

 

 

my final question is do you really think you contributed to this thread w/ any intelligent information?

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You can have Booker, I'll take Clayton. I think he proves last year was an aberration and actually steps up w/ #'s similar to Glenn this year. All things considered, I think I take RB's supporting cast (CPep, Chambers, McMichael and Booker) over Caddy's (Simms, Glenn, Clayton and Smith) at this point until Clayton wipes away last year, Glenn goes another season and AlexSmith (TE) proves himself. I just think Caddy is the better pure RB, while RBrown is the more physically gifted back. Again though, I think you can't go wrong w/ either of them sitting late 1st round early 2nd.

I'm not arguing taking Booker over Clayton in a draft, just stating Booker offered more to his squad last season, and has done it longer. I too feel Clayton could bounce back. That changes this arguement, if and when that occurs.

[Gepetto 1,488]

If you pick toward the end of round 1 just hope either Caddy or Brown are available. I like each of them about equally. Concern is the Alstott factor at the goaline as has been discussed and the injury concerns for Caddy, but RB could get injured just as easily with the workload he is going to get this year. What's great about both these backs is 1. talent, 2. speed, 3. number of carries.

 

I'd rather have Caddy OR Ronnie over Lamont Jordan or Steven Jackson (just my personal preference).

 

I'm in a 10 team keeper league (1st year it will be a keeper league) and if I don't get a pick between 4 and 8, I will strongly consider trading down to the 9th or 10th spot in hopes of getting both Caddy and Ronnie.

 

As for Joey Galloway, he has not lost a step. He is fast as hell, runs good routes, and made a lot of big plays to keep their offense moving and he scored some long touchdowns. He was a big part of the reason Tampa Bay made the playoffs.