Confrederate Flags At Public High Schools

[torridjoe 48]

reow!

 

get the tools ready for when I come home....!

[Fervid Ro 0]

get the tools ready for when I come home....!

I have a meeting tonight.

 

Wow.

 

Taking words totally out of context and twisting them to fit your own agenda runs in the family.

your best post.

[torridjoe 48]

I have a meeting tonight.

 

 

afta!

[wiffleball 4,790]

while "those" may ignore taxation and representation, the founders did not. Which was exactly my point--in that war there was a full declaration of the reasons and causes for separation. So too is that true for the Civil War--those that separated, spelled out exactly why they were doing so. If you find a theme that dominates the Declaration of Independence as much as the word "slave" dominates the individual secession declarations, I'd be pretty likely to agree with you that it was the primary rationale for that war.

 

 

Again, using an example. I'm willing to wager that we can find other reasons why the Revolutionary War happened that weren't so eloquently outlined in the declaration of independence, but were nonetheless salient. But, I get your point on the Civil War deal; It's kind of like when GWB mentioned "terror" "terrorist" and/or "weapon (of MD)" 97 times in the speech justifying his call to war in Iraq - but then turned around and said - that's not the ONLY reason......I said "liberate" once!"

[itsbigmoni 1]

Gotcha B!tch.

 

Nothing personal but love that chapelle quote, plus he did throw a nice one at you with the bush and WMD comment.

[torridjoe 48]

Again, using an example. I'm willing to wager that we can find other reasons why the Revolutionary War happened that weren't so eloquently outlined in the declaration of independence, but were nonetheless salient. But, I get your point on the Civil War deal; It's kind of like when GWB mentioned "terror" "terrorist" and/or "weapon (of MD)" 97 times in the speech justifying his call to war in Iraq - but then turned around and said - that's not the ONLY reason......I said "liberate" once!"

 

you made it out of the rabbit hole!

 

I don't deny for a minute that there were a whole raft of issues that rankled the South. But it seems clear from the documents I've read, that preserving slavery was the one they were most committed to fighting and dying for, while agricultural tarriffs--not so much.

[itsbigmoni 1]

I think he raises a good point. Why couldn't they just use slavery the same way bush used WMD's. Just becuase one thing is said, it doesn't make it true otherwise we'd be dismantling WMD's and disposing of deadly gasses in Iraq.

[gocolts 300]

Colored friends huh? Way to make a foolish point even worse by use of a term not recognized as anything civil in many years.

 

Should it be banned? Not so sure about that.

Should it be ridiculed as flying a flag of a vanquished enemy of the United States of America? Most certainly.

Even more absurd is blacks calling themselves African-Americans. Most have never been to Africa, much less been born there.

 

Plus, there a white people who are really African Americans.

 

What is wrong with Blacks??? It still reads white when you apply for anything and they want your race.

[RLLD 4,230]

afta!

 

Sweet Jesus, I just threw up in my mouf

[VikesFan 1]

First and foremost, the Civil War was not fought over slavery. Was it a big issue? Yes. Was it the main issue? No. Consider this. The emancipation proclamation didn't free slaves in border states. The Civil War was plainly fought over money. Do some research on the Morrill tariffs. This tariff was crippling the southern economy. Money was being bled out of the South and sent into the North. The South had no other recourse when Lincoln, a huge supporter, got elected. It was about money.... Just like every other war.

 

 

Second, so the Confederate flag is racist... So what? I don't consider myself racist, but so what if there are racists in this country. Isn't the beatiful thing about the USofA the simple fact that we can all hold our own opinions/thoughts? Do we need the government telling us what to think and what not to think? The free market will sort so much of this out. Racists will get left behind if we simply let them die. Instead, we choose to combat them, which serves only to make more racists, create more hate, and give legitimate reasons for many non-racists to become them.

[Snoopy1 0]

First and foremost, the Civil War was not fought over slavery. Was it a big issue? Yes. Was it the main issue? No. Consider this. The emancipation proclamation didn't free slaves in border states. The Civil War was plainly fought over money. Do some research on the Morrill tariffs. This tariff was crippling the southern economy. Money was being bled out of the South and sent into the North. The South had no other recourse when Lincoln, a huge supporter, got elected. It was about money.... Just like every other war.

Second, so the Confederate flag is racist... So what? I don't consider myself racist, but so what if there are racists in this country. Isn't the beatiful thing about the USofA the simple fact that we can all hold our own opinions/thoughts? Do we need the government telling us what to think and what not to think? The free market will sort so much of this out. Racists will get left behind if we simply let them die. Instead, we choose to combat them, which serves only to make more racists, create more hate, and give legitimate reasons for many non-racists to become them.

 

 

If the confederate flag is "racist" should public tax dollars be used so that it can fly and be maintained in public schools?

[GobbleDog 996]

The Confederate flag offends most blacks and some whites. Wrong or right, they percieve it that way and preception is reality. So it's understandable why they're removing it from a public school.

 

However, it's unfortunate that the flag symbolizes racism to so many people. It doesn't to me, and I bet it didn't symbolize racism to my great-great grandfather who fought and died in the Civil War.