MLCKAA 586 Posted May 4, 2007 i have a bottle of these, I just don't get how people get addicted to this stuff. its fun for a day, but then its a drag. sometimes i'll take one and sit on the porch and have a couple beers but its really nothing special. I'd much rather have some X or shrooms, even bud. It takes all kinds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted May 5, 2007 i have a bottle of these, I just don't get how people get addicted to this stuff. its fun for a day, but then its a drag. sometimes i'll take one and sit on the porch and have a couple beers but its really nothing special. I'd much rather have some X or shrooms, even bud. 'shrooms are awesome. Although last time I took 'em, I think I overdid it a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 586 Posted May 5, 2007 'shrooms are awesome. Although last time I took 'em, I think I overdid it a bit. Oddly, I never tried them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted May 5, 2007 Oddly, I never tried them. I consider it one of those things that everyone should do once. It really opens up the mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted May 10, 2007 I thought this story in the New York Times today was interesting: May 10, 2007In Guilty Plea, OxyContin Maker to Pay $600 Million By BARRY MEIER ABINGDON, Va., May 10 — The company that makes the narcotic painkiller OxyContin and three current and former executives pleaded guilty today in federal court here to criminal charges that they misled regulators, doctors and patients about the drug’s risk of addiction and its potential to be abused. To resolve criminal and civil charges related to the drug’s “misbranding,” the parent of Purdue Pharma, the company that markets OxyContin, agreed to pay some $600 million in fines and other payments, one of the largest amounts ever paid by a drug company in such a case. Also, in a rare move, three executives of Purdue Pharma, including its president and its top lawyer, pleaded guilty today as individuals to misbranding, a criminal violation. They agreed to pay a total of $34.5 million in fines. OxyContin is a powerful, long-acting narcotic that provides relief of serious pain for up to 12 hours. Initially, Purdue Pharma contended that OxyContin, because of its time-release formulation, posed a lower threat of abuse and addiction to patients than do traditional, shorter-acting painkillers like Percocet or Vicodin. That claim became the linchpin of the most aggressive marketing campaign ever undertaken by a pharmaceutical company for a narcotic painkiller. Just a few years after the drug’s introduction in 1996, annual sales reached $1 billion. Purdue Pharma heavily promoted OxyContin to doctors like general practitioners, who had often had little training in the treatment of serious pain or in recognizing signs of drug abuse in patients. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,881 Posted May 10, 2007 OxyContin is built to give you a slow dose of powerful pain killer over a 24-hour period. I'm pretty sure the people using it recreationally are altering the drug to give you the entire dosage in one shot. I'd be careful either way but I doubt it's a huge deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted May 10, 2007 OxyContin is built to give you a slow dose of powerful pain killer over a 24-hour period. I'm pretty sure the people using it recreationally are altering the drug to give you the entire dosage in one shot. I'd be careful either way but I doubt it's a huge deal. Did you read the article? This is exactly what the drug company was saying when they marketed OxyContin, only it turned out to be entirely untrue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted May 10, 2007 Did you read the article? This is exactly what the drug company was saying when they marketed OxyContin, only it turned out to be entirely untrue. No, it says the exact things that MDC is contending. That is was designed to give you a slow dose of the drug over time, but that recreational users quickly found that by chewing or crushing the tablet the entire dose could be taken immediately. What the company was saying, that was shown to be fabrication, was that the time release design had proven to be less addictive than alternatives. They had fake scientific charts as part of their marketing campaign. Whether it's false because people are able to alter it to get around the time release, or whether it is false when the product is used as intended wasn't really established in the article. It may even be true, but they just don't have actual studies to demonstrate it and aren't legally allowed to present fabricated ones for obvious reasons... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted May 10, 2007 No, it says the exact things that MDC is contending. That is was designed to give you a slow dose of the drug over time, but that recreational users quickly found that by chewing or crushing the tablet the entire dose could be taken immediately. What the company was saying, that was shown to be fabrication, was that the time release design had proven to be less addictive than alternatives. They had fake scientific charts as part of their marketing campaign. Whether it's false because people are able to alter it to get around the time release, or whether it is false when the product is used as intended wasn't really established in the article. It may even be true, but they just don't have actual studies to demonstrate it and aren't legally allowed to present fabricated ones for obvious reasons... I suppose that technically you are correct, but if they were using fabricated evidence to establish the claim, can't you pretty much assume that they couldn't come up with any real evidence in support of it? I'm sure they tried to do that and failed. Probably because its not actually true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 827 Posted May 10, 2007 They gave me 50 of them and I have 36 left in the bottle. I think I'll be flushing the remainders within a few days. I'll bet money you don't flush them. But if you decide to, PM me first Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recidivist 1 Posted May 10, 2007 OxyContin is built to give you a slow dose of powerful pain killer over a 24-hour period. I'm pretty sure the people using it recreationally are altering the drug to give you the entire dosage in one shot. I'd be careful either way but I doubt it's a huge deal. You scrape off the time release coating, mash up the uncoated pill, cut up lines as if it were blow, and snort. I got some 80mg OCs and am going to do exactly this in about 15 minutes I recommend a chilled quality vodka to wash the drip down with Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
