Guest tiki_gods Posted June 20, 2007 June 19, 2007 Iowans for Tax Relief and Iowa Christian Alliance will host a presidential candidates forum on Saturday, June 30th in Des Moines. Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Sam Brownback, Jim Gilmore, Mike Huckabee, Tommy Thompson, and Tom Tancredo will participate. Ron Paul, however, will not participate. Why? Because he wasnt invited. We heard about this forum from numerous supporters in Iowa who asked why Dr. Paul was not going to participate. Those supporters assumed that Dr. Paul was invited. The campaign office had not received an invitation so we called this morning; thinking we might have misplaced the invitation or simply overlooked it. Lew Moore, our campaign manager, called Mr. Edward Failor, an officer of Iowans for Tax Relief, to ask about it. To our shock, Mr. Failor told us Dr. Paul was not invited; he was not going to be invited; and he would not be allowed to participate. And when asked why, Mr. Failor refused to explain. The call ended. John McCain = Too busy Rudy= won't have someone on hand to answer for him. Ron Paul= excluded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted June 20, 2007 Probably because he's not a Republican. http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins...gainst_ron_paul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted June 20, 2007 He should show up and hold a press conference during the debate, in which he answers questions from the media and from ordinary people via email or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyTom 0 Posted June 20, 2007 Probably because he's not a Republican. http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins...gainst_ron_paul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted June 20, 2007 Probably because he's not a Republican. http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins...gainst_ron_paul yikes. #1) Ron Paul is a libertarian, not a conservative: #2) Ron Paul is one of the people spreading the North American Union conspiracy: #3) Ron Paul encourages "truther" conspiracy nuts: Even though Ron Paul admits that he does not believe in a 9/11 government conspiracy #4) Ron Paul's racial views: #5) A lot of Ron Paul's supporters are incredibly irritating that's it! that's all this guy's got to hate Ron Paul!? #1. don't vote for him because he's the wrong party (i.e. partisanship) #2. he spreads rumors #3. NO REALLY! he spreads rumors #4. He's a racist (which if he is, is the only point worth discussing) #5. His supporters are annoying. Look, Ron Paul is too "out there" to win the Presidency. But he does make some fantastic points and it's hilarious to watch all you party-line clowns scrambling to discredit Ron Paul. I want to see him involved in this election train wreck because if nothing else, he's gonna' make all the "politics as usual" jackasses answer some tough questions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tiki_gods Posted June 21, 2007 Probably because he's not a Republican. http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins...gainst_ron_paul Funny. Ron Paul is more conservative then this group of "conservatives" who have spent us into another 4 trillion dollars in debt. Libertarians believe in the Constitution, something Bush and Guiliani use as toilet paper when it suits their needs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyTom 0 Posted June 21, 2007 Funny. Ron Paul is more conservative then this group of "conservatives" who have spent us into another 4 trillion dollars in debt. Libertarians believe in the Constitution, something Bush and Guiliani use as toilet paper when it suits their needs. Libertarians also believe in legalizing all drugs, prostitution, and all forms of abortion. What's "conservative" about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted June 21, 2007 Libertarians also believe in legalizing all drugs, prostitution, and all forms of abortion. What's "conservative" about that? He's a RINO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted June 21, 2007 Libertarians also believe in legalizing all drugs, prostitution, and all forms of abortion. What's "conservative" about that? First of all the article above is not only factually incorrect, but it's extremely biased. Everybody knows Paul didn't blame Americans or forgive Al-Queda for 9/11. He simply spoke the truth. We've been messing in their sh!t for years, and they wanted some payback. WHY can't people see that we can't push everyone around forever?? Sooner or later, you're going to get swung at. 2nd Paul is NOT as isolationist, which is just another pisspoor, rubberstamp attack on a guy who's record is impeccable towards being conservative. He simply believes we need to stay out of other countries business, especially when it's for monetary gains (big oil, etc). The money we'd save would fix our debt, and our borders. 3rd Paul is NOT a racist. He never wrote those articles, but they were published in his periodical, so he assumed responsiblity for them, because he has integrity. The man who wrote them was fired because he was a disgruntled worker. 4th Paul is NOT for legalizing abortion. Do your fuckin homework you liberal, line-towing, GOP wanna be. He's a RINO. Kinda like you're a SFD? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted June 21, 2007 Also, one of his potential VP running mates has a fat pig of a campaign advisor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted June 21, 2007 Also, one of his potential VP running mates has a fat pig of a campaign advisor. Really, who is his VP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted June 21, 2007 Really, who is his VP? Do your own research. I actually care about where my vote goes, so I like to know things about the potential candidates, and I do the work to find out about them. If others choose to be lazy bums, that's not my problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted June 21, 2007 Do your own research. I actually care about where my vote goes, so I like to know things about the potential candidates, and I do the work to find out about them. If others choose to be lazy bums, that's not my problem. it's quite obvious I know more about him than you do. he hasn't even inkled at who his running mate would be. Also, you're entitled to your opinion, so I likely won't bother trying to convince you to use your brain and research all the candidates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 620 Posted June 21, 2007 #4) Ron Paul's racial views: From the Houston Chronicle, Texas congressional candidate Ron Paul's 1992 political newsletter highlighted portrayals of blacks as inclined toward crime and lacking sense about top political issues. Under the headline of "Terrorist Update," for instance, Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and commented, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be." Paul, a Republican obstetrician from Surfside, said Wednesday he opposes racism and that his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time." ..."Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal," Paul said. ...He added, "We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." Paul also asserted that "complex embezzling" is conducted exclusively by non-blacks. "What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn't that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?" he wrote." I agree in principle with all of the above, but I don't feel like a racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tiki_gods Posted June 22, 2007 Libertarians also believe in legalizing all drugs, prostitution, and all forms of abortion. What's "conservative" about that? Yeah, lets throw more and more money at problems like Republicans and Democrats do, which only makes the problems worse and more expensive. I believe in civil rights and the Constitution not God and self righteous Christians. Libertarians > all others Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyTom 0 Posted June 22, 2007 Yeah, lets throw more and more money at problems like Republicans and Democrats do, which only makes the problems worse and more expensive. I believe in civil rights and the Constitution not God and self righteous Christians. Libertarians > all others From what I have read, I hope you are not wanting to excercise your civil right to smoke in New Hampshire. "Live free or die." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tiki_gods Posted June 22, 2007 From what I have read, I hope you are not wanting to excercise your civil right to smoke in New Hampshire. "Live free or die." Our great state has no laws that infringe on our civil liberties, which includes smoking and mandatory seat belt laws left for possay liberal states. We're also the only state that is free of income and sales tax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyTom 0 Posted June 22, 2007 Our great state has no laws that infringe on our civil liberties, which includes smoking.... http://www3.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO55358/ We're also the only state that is free of income and sales tax. I guess that's still not good enough for some people. http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?...070621084301995 On a side note - my wife and I do love traveling there. We honeymooned in North Conway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tiki_gods Posted June 22, 2007 http://www3.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO55358/ As soon as the Republicans gain control of the House this fall it will be repealed...just like the old seat belt law. Unfortunately, this last election (and the Massachusetts messians who border jump) handed the State House to the libs...it will be short lived. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites