montana 89 Posted July 6, 2007 I will not leave a link because it comes from another FF site & I will NOT promote another site on here in respect to Mike....but here it goes........ Rumors Rumbling Jul 5, 2007 Let's look at one of the rumors floating around.... (imagine this as tomorrows headline) Jerry Jones makes the move.... Reports are coming in from the ranch that the owner of the Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones made a deal to move Julius Jones and Marion Barber III as well as Dallas's 1st round pick in 2008 to KC forAll-Pro Running Back Larry Johnson. Jones has just made another bold move at a very good time, following a draft were they got what could be a top 5 pick in 2008 in many peoples eyes. Thenhe pulls off this trade during the offseason, where it's been rumored that Larry Johnson would be holding out. This leaves them with Clevelands 1st round pick in 2008 and Larry Johnson. Nota bad offseason for the Cowboys and their fans. I'm sure many people will be changing somepreseason predictions based on this transaction. Let's Analyze this trade from a this angle: First, Jerry Jones wants to win and he wants to win now. He knows that in Dallas, Larry Johnsonwould be a dominant force, that is surrounded by a highly talented team. That being said all this talentshould push the Cowboys closer to the Super Bowl and a showdown with pre-trade favorite the New England Patriots. When the Cowboys acquired Larry Johnson, HC Wade Phillips knew he only needed to get Larry 20-25 carries a game to be effective within this offense. An offense that includes Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Jason Whitten and Tony Romo. All of these players just got a major boost when they walk onto the field with this guy. LJ is a game breaker like his partner on the field TO, with these 2 guys on the field together, all I need to say is get some rest now all you DC's your gonnaneed it. Now the good stuff for us Fantasy Football guys, this trade is huge for us I believe this would make LJ and even better back then he already is, and it shouldn't have a major affect the value of JJ or MBIII. Beyond that it impacts everyone else on this offense making them a more viable weapon. The main thing it does is it takes carries away from LJ without limiting his performance. The reduced workload should prolong his career and increase his chances to win a Super Bowl. He had a average offense in KC with a few good weapons and a solid line, but no where near the talent level he will play with in Dallas. What he moves into in Dallas is much more high-powered offense with a growing line. This should increase the overall stats for each of these players since the defenses cant be key in on 1 guy. It should also give us a few more options at key points in this years draft. In my opinion Tony Romo gets a huge boost from this addition and could be the one that sees the biggest increase out of anyone on either team. With the addition of LJ he takes this takes alot of pressure off of Romo's shoulders and allows him a fiercerunning attack to go with a lethal passing game. LJ and Owens will be the main focal points for most defensesto try and contain. That should leave alot of openings for the likes of Glenn and Whitten to see some good matchups in coverage. Romo Prediction 3900 yards 30tds/10 ints and another trip to the pro bowl. Owens Predictions 80 rec. 1250 yards 14 TD's Glenn Predictions 70 rec 1100 yards 7 TD's Whitten 60 rec 800 yards 3 TD's LJ 1700 yards 17 TD's 35 rec 500 yards 4 TD's This trade still leaves Dallas, with the pick they got from Cleveland so they have a very good shot at a top prospect in next years draft to add to this team. So this trade doesn't handcuff them next yearon draft day. Now, this is all a rumor but it leaves something for us to look at and pick apart... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texansfan 0 Posted July 6, 2007 I just heard this rumor too so apparently it's growing legs. I don't know what was offered though, but JJ, Barber, and one of their two 1st round picks next year makes sense for both sides. Dallas is much closer to a Super Bowl than KC and LJ is a huge upgrade over those 2 backs. And we all know Jerry Jones has never been bashful about making BOLD moves! And as an LJ owner I would LOVE for this to happen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted July 6, 2007 man... fire... wheel... that rumor is probably already on at least the 2nd page of this forearm it's been so beaten to death... but at least this one has a little more substance... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted July 6, 2007 Romo Prediction 3900 yards 30tds/10 ints and another trip to the pro bowl. Owens Predictions 80 rec. 1250 yards 14 TD's Glenn Predictions 70 rec 1100 yards 7 TD's Whitten 60 rec 800 yards 3 TD's LJ 1700 yards 17 TD's 35 rec 500 yards 4 TD's Only 30 TDs for Romo and 14 TDs for Owens? Why so conservative? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjarch86 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Dallas homer here... That rumor has been discussed for several days now on the radio shows here. Kudos to you though for getting it right and laying out the details. Here is something to consider with that trade...the numbers between MBIII and JJ as a RBBC are slightly better than LJ from last season. So why would you mess with it? If you take LJ, you a running the risk of one injury and out. With an RBBC that produces the same amount, if you get one injury, you still have half of that production going. You also have much fresher legs throughout the season. So yeah, LJ is a stud, and as a Dallas homer I would like to see him here....but I'm not necessarily sure it would be the best move. It seems safer to me to keep the RBBC that is producing that get rid of it and bank on the legs of one man....legs break to easily. ***on edit....this is obviously strictly from a "non fantasy" aspect*** **Second edit...does saying "non fantasy" mean reality?** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,118 Posted July 6, 2007 Two dogs and a late 1st for Johnson? I can't see how KC would do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted July 6, 2007 again, this was found on another ff web site - i wrote none of this (including the stats). i just found this to be interesting so i posted it. any new news on this dallas/kc homers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foghorn Leghorn 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Romo Prediction 3900 yards 30tds/10 ints and another trip to the pro bowl. Owens Predictions 80 rec. 1250 yards 14 TD's Glenn Predictions 70 rec 1100 yards 7 TD's Whitten 60 rec 800 yards 3 TD's LJ 1700 yards 17 TD's 35 rec 500 yards 4 TD's I know this is from another site so no shot at you, montana. That being said, I have to ask: Would the Cowboys be using three balls simultaneously to reach these projections? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 133 Posted July 7, 2007 As an LJ owner in multiple leagues I'm , and hoping it's true! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onejayhawk 3 Posted July 7, 2007 Is this tripe still floating around? Its a rumor from a sport talk show in Dallas. There has never been any substance that I can find. J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
z00g 0 Posted July 7, 2007 man... fire... wheel... that rumor is probably already on at least the 2nd page of this forearm it's been so beaten to death... but at least this one has a little more substance... I've seen people talk about this 'bored' so many times I've lost count, but that's the first time I've seen 'forearm.' Not trying to pick anything, but just wondering things like 'bored' are intentional? If so, what's the history behind it? I'm curious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Day Old Doughnut 0 Posted July 7, 2007 I've seen people talk about this 'bored' so many times I've lost count, but that's the first time I've seen 'forearm.' Not trying to pick anything, but just wondering things like 'bored' are intentional? If so, what's the history behind it? I'm curious. Relates to past poor spellings on the geek board. For instance, instead of porn it's called pron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted July 7, 2007 Relates to past poor spellings on the geek board. For instance, instead of porn it's called pron. actually, that's 1/2 correct... it is all about bad spelling, but people typically mispell things like pron and ghey because alot of message boards block those words.... kinda like when you try to talk about ###### Vermeil... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onejayhawk 3 Posted July 8, 2007 Two dogs and a late 1st for Johnson? I can't see how KC would do that. That was bad reporting. It was MB III or JJ and BOTH 1st round picks, with the possibility of a later 1st day pick as change. It is believed (rumored) that GB offered the 16th pick and a 3rd rounder on draft day, with Hall and Ross, not to mention Harrell, still on the board, and KC turned it down. Dallas pick and a RB clearly will not do it. Clevelands pick and a RB, plus something else would be needed. BTW, KC has 10 2008 picks at this time. J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edytwinky 1 Posted July 9, 2007 As a Dallas fan, that is way too much to give up for Larry Johnson. I'd love to have him but that's a big risk in giving up both first round draft picks. I saw this thing posted up on ESPN.com in a question session with one of their analyst so it could pick up some steam. I doubt it'll happen though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted July 9, 2007 The Kansas City Chiefs haven't won a playoff game since ???? Anyone? Anyone? Bueler? 1993 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasypete 0 Posted July 9, 2007 barber, jones, and cleveland's pick makes sense for both sides. BOTH 1st r picks are too much, and just dallas's is too little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
