WR Chris Henry...still an idiot

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Dumbass... it was a joke. I was actually considering picking him up if he made it through waivers, but was going to wait until the end of the week to get news on CJ.

 

Essentially, I was saying that if this resulted in his not being able to play, that would suck for those who picked him up.

 

Stop focking crying.

 

I like crying. And I'm still a genius. So there.

 

lol

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Put away your 'jump to conclusions' mat

 

This reference very nearly makes up for your many moons of douchebaggery...nearly. A few more Office Space references and I might even back you up in a topic or 2.

[hines86rules 0]

Sounds like this may be nothing at all.

Put away your 'jump to conclusions' mat

That's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life, Tom.

Yes, this is horrible, this idea.

 

[OuttaLuck 0]

He was reinstated by the NFL and will play Sunday. He was not arrested and this is all based on heresay by a parking attendant.

 

topic over.

 

I'm sure I'm at risk here of being accused of engaging in "heresy" about the accuracy of a comment made by you, but it's not "hearsay"--it's the eyewitness account of someone who was at the location, not someone who heard about the incident from someone else. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the possible implications or results of this situation, given how NFL Commissioner Goodall has handled behavior problems this year.

And just for the record, I preferred both Bailey and Mary Ann.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

I'm sure I'm at risk here of being accused of engaging in "heresy" about the accuracy of a comment made by you, but it's not "hearsay"--it's the eyewitness account of someone who was at the location, not someone who heard about the incident from someone else. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the possible implications or results of this situation, given how NFL Commissioner Goodall has handled behavior problems this year.

And just for the record, I preferred both Bailey and Mary Ann.

 

my apologies oh illustrious spelling police.

 

it is an uncorroborated account - no witnesses, no video, nothing. Then it becomes he said/she said and no one has ever been convicted based on that. sorry.

[jakeman24 0]

Chris Henry, WR CIN

News: Receiver Chris Henry allegedly was involved in an altercation with a parking attendant on the eve of rejoining the Cincinnati Bengals from his eight-game suspension. On Tuesday night, police in Newport, Ky., a suburb on the other side of the Ohio River within view of Paul Brown Stadium, were called to an entertainment district following a dispute over a parking fee. A parking attendant told police that Henry and another man parked their sport utility vehicle without paying. According to an incident report, the attendant said Henry argued loudly with him and said, "Don't you know who I am?" The attendant told police that Henry threw a $5 bill on the ground, but it was returned to him and police were called. No charges have been filed.

 

 

 

 

This is almost as funny as Pacman visiting a stripclub less than 24 hours before his meeting with Roger Godell to discuss his involvement in crimes committed in stripclubs.

 

How stupid could you be??

[pimptastic69 0]

my apologies oh illustrious spelling police.

 

it is an uncorroborated account - no witnesses, no video, nothing. Then it becomes he said/she said and no one has ever been convicted based on that. sorry.

 

It's not about your spelling prowess, it's about the fact that a witness/complaintant gave a signed statement to the police.

 

Hearsay would be the Hooters waitress next door recapping the fiasco.

 

I wonder what the look on Goodell's face was when he heard about this.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Chris Henry, WR CIN

News: Receiver Chris Henry allegedly was involved in an altercation with a parking attendant on the eve of rejoining the Cincinnati Bengals from his eight-game suspension. On Tuesday night, police in Newport, Ky., a suburb on the other side of the Ohio River within view of Paul Brown Stadium, were called to an entertainment district following a dispute over a parking fee. A parking attendant told police that Henry and another man parked their sport utility vehicle without paying. According to an incident report, the attendant said Henry argued loudly with him and said, "Don't you know who I am?" The attendant told police that Henry threw a $5 bill on the ground, but it was returned to him and police were called. No charges have been filed.

This is almost as funny as Pacman visiting a stripclub less than 24 hours before his meeting with Roger Godell to discuss his involvement in crimes committed in stripclubs.

 

How stupid could you be??

 

1. it sounds like he tried to pay. lol

 

2. atleast he waited until after he was reinstated to act the fool?

 

3. This is all alleged. No one knows what really happened in that parking garage except Henry, his lackey, the $5 bill and the parking lot attendant. And the only one talking is the attendant - you'd have a better chance getting a statement from the $5-er than Henry or his pal, so case closed.

 

I seriously doubt this amounts to anything. Think about it - Henry had a STOLEN CAR that was stolen from a rental car agency parked in his driveway and was caught...he got reinstated yesterday without comment about that, so you really think Henry popping off to a parking garage attendant is going to keep him off the field?

 

Finally, how do we know that parking lot attendant didn't deserve to be belittled like that? Maybe the guy's a disgruntled Bengals fan and said something stupid, like, "man, if it wasn't for your dumb ass we'd be 6-2 instead of 2-6!"

 

but we don't know....and we'll never know. So there it is. All I know is that Chris Henry will help my fantasy team if he plays, so I say cut the brotha some slack. He came from a broken home! (yeah, we was broke...so what? - brownie points to anyone who gets that reference)

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

It's not about your spelling prowess, it's about the fact that a witness/complaintant gave a signed statement to the police.

 

A complaintant and a witness would be two separate people, Einstien.

 

You have a complaintant and no witness. You cannot be your own witness unless you are schitzophrenic. Please leave your internet bar exam results and fake internet lawyer plaque with the webmaster on your way out. Thank you.

 

This just in:

Joe Kay, of The Associated Press, reports Cincinnati Bengals WR Chris Henry was involved in an altercation Tuesday, Nov. 6. Henry allegedly parked his car in a parking lot without paying and then argued loudly with the parking attendant who was trying to retrieve the parking fee. Henry said to the attendant, "Don't you know who I am?" The attendant said Henry threw a $5 bill on the ground, but the money was returned to Henry and the police were called. No charges have been filed, but the attendant can file a complaint with prosecutors against Henry.

Fantasy Impact: Wow, this guy really doesn't get it. He shouldn't get suspended from this, but the Bengals might not rush him back to the field. Henry has upside, but is a risk because of all the off the field stuff.

 

Ok, so it will likely be up to the Bengals. Right - they won't rush him back with CJ having a sprained neck and every other WR on the roster having hands of stone. I fully expect to see Henry starting as the WR3 on Sunday.

[pimptastic69 0]

A complaintant and a witness would be two separate people, Einstien.

 

You have a complaintant and no witness. You cannot be your own witness unless you are schitzophrenic. Please leave your internet bar exam results and fake internet lawyer plaque with the webmaster on your way out. Thank you.

 

This just in:

Ok, so it will likely be up to the Bengals. Right - they won't rush him back with CJ having a sprained neck and every other WR on the roster having hands of stone. I fully expect to see Henry starting as the WR3 on Sunday.

 

You got me there.

 

 

Go ahead and start him with confidence, I guess.

[ROCKET 0]

A complaintant and a witness would be two separate people, Einstien.

 

You have a complaintant and no witness. You cannot be your own witness unless you are schitzophrenic. Please leave your internet bar exam results and fake internet lawyer plaque with the webmaster on your way out. Thank you.

 

This just in:

Ok, so it will likely be up to the Bengals. Right - they won't rush him back with CJ having a sprained neck and every other WR on the roster having hands of stone. I fully expect to see Henry starting as the WR3 on Sunday.

 

 

The one thing you fail to understand is Roger Goodell is no fool and has had enough of Henry's b.s. If you don't think this doesn't piss him off you're fooling yourself. Can he suspend him for this incident?, probably not but it's just another nail in his coffin and shows Goodell he's the same immature punk he always was. If you're banking on him helping your fantasy team out I wish you luck. To waste a roster spot on the guy in a competitive league is a huge gamble.

[jocstrap 8]

Jocstrap jumped early on bashing Henry, I kind of take it back. Sounds like this might not even be an issue. Not too long ago, I too was hoping he was on the waiver wire - - no luck though. Talk about a huge upside with little to lose. These are the type of guys that win you the . What a great gamble as a #3 receiver or at least roster spot.

 

 

 

My_2_Cents - - - your reactions and responses were Scooterish. I thought there was a new leaf turned over with this name. I am one of your anger management recovery sponsors just looking out for you

 

You could either drop a F.S. post (and we all love those)

 

or keep it calm as 2 cents

 

I personally like the split personality, and would love to see the dark guy throw in some posts from time to time.

 

...and where the hell is that hot sauce

[art schlichter's bookie 0]

"You better pick that up ######..."

 

God, I love Thuglife.

[Parkers99 0]

"F-you ... F-this ... don't you know who I am?" Henry allegedly also threw a $5 bill on the ground in front of the attendant and added "You better pick that up b----".

 

 

I know it's generally considered very bad form to root for injury, but c'mon!! Can't I get an exception?

 

What a petty, cruel little thug.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Jocstrap jumped early on bashing Henry, I kind of take it back. Sounds like this might not even be an issue. Not too long ago, I too was hoping he was on the waiver wire - - no luck though. Talk about a huge upside with little to lose. These are the type of guys that win you the . What a great gamble as a #3 receiver or at least roster spot.

My_2_Cents - - - your reactions and responses were Scooterish. I thought there was a new leaf turned over with this name. I am one of your anger management recovery sponsors just looking out for you

 

You could either drop a F.S. post (and we all love those)

 

or keep it calm as 2 cents

 

I personally like the split personality, and would love to see the dark guy throw in some posts from time to time.

 

 

I have been relatively calm. Didn't drop any F-Bombs or insult anyone.

 

So I had a rough day - I'm not perfect.

...and where the hell is that hot sauce

 

 

I have it bottled and ready to send. Just need to get time to get to the #$@(*^$#@!*&(^ post office. Likely will happen on Saturday, I swear. It's worth the wait...this is one of my best recipes to date.

[ccb123 0]

"Henry reportedly saying "don't you know who I am." " Yes I think we do. A FN overpaid idiot. It will be nice to see him suffer the same fate as Vick in the future.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

The one thing you fail to understand is Roger Goodell is no fool and has had enough of Henry's b.s. If you don't think this doesn't piss him off you're fooling yourself. Can he suspend him for this incident?, probably not but it's just another nail in his coffin and shows Goodell he's the same immature punk he always was. If you're banking on him helping your fantasy team out I wish you luck. To waste a roster spot on the guy in a competitive league is a huge gamble.

 

Meh - I think if anything were to happen it would have over the stolen car parked in Henry's driveway.

 

No charges filed, no league issue. I am pretty sure the CBA has some limits as to what Goodell can act on. Wealthy athletes get accussed of crap all the time. Look at Kobe Bryant - how do we know this parking lot attendant didn't tell Henry, "gimme $100 or I'll tell the cops you assaulted me!" - stranger things have happened.

 

Now, do I think Henry acted the fool again? Probably. Do I think it's a "huge gamble" to bank on him helping my fantasy team? Hardly - 17th round pick out of 20 rounds, he's sat innocently on my roster while waiting for his return. With injuries to other starters, my last viable WRs are Housh, Jennings and a choice between Marty Booker, Brandon Jones or Mark Clayton. Chris Henry can't get back to the field soon enough! No gamble at all - if he doesn't work out, no loss. If he works out, huge gain. You do know he had as many TDs as Housh last year in several fewer game, right? The guy is a punk, a thug, and probably a complete d!ckhead, but he sure can catch him some footballs for TDs. And that has a place on my team.

[OuttaLuck 0]

my apologies oh illustrious spelling police.

 

it is an uncorroborated account - no witnesses, no video, nothing. Then it becomes he said/she said and no one has ever been convicted based on that. sorry.

 

It wasn't my intention to be a spelling Nazi--I was making a bad pun about the word.

People are convicted all the time based upon the testimony of a single witness, who by the way CAN be the same as the complainant (in response to another of your posts here). Suppose someone gets the crap beaten out of him by someone else--are you really taking the position that the guy who got mugged can't register a complaint and then testify against the mugger? I realize that type of conduct is not involved in this incident involving Henry, but if Goodall believes the account of the parking lot attendant (and I see no reason why he should be criticized for that job or that having that job reduces his credibility, which you implied) I think it's something Goodall may take into account as far as dealing with Henry.

[Dr. Octopus 0]

A complaintant and a witness would be two separate people, Einstien.

 

You have a complaintant and no witness. You cannot be your own witness unless you are schitzophrenic. Please leave your internet bar exam results and fake internet lawyer plaque with the webmaster on your way out. Thank you.

 

 

I took a the real BAR exam and I have a real lawyer certificate. He can certainly be both. Not that this would ever come to trial, but at that point the State would take over the role of "complaintant" by prosecuting the case and the attendant would surely be a witness and anything he testified to would not be "hearsay" since Henry would be there to rebut any words that the attendant put in his mouth.

 

Not that any of this matters and I hate to step into another's pissing conetst, but just trying to spread the knowledge and make the world a better place.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

I took a the real BAR exam and I have a real lawyer certificate. He can certainly be both. Not that this would ever come to trial, but at that point the State would take over the role of "complaintant" by prosecuting the case and the attendant would surely be a witness and anything he testified to would not be "hearsay" since Henry would be there to rebut any words that the attendant put in his mouth.

 

Not that any of this matters and I hate to step into another's pissing conetst, but just trying to spread the knowledge and make the world a better place.

 

Interesting. I'm sure you are correct, but isn't it equally true that without evidence, witnesses to corroborate the account, or any evidence that such a case would be weak and extremely unlikely to result in sentencing?

 

[Dr. Octopus 0]

Interesting. I'm sure you are correct, but isn't it equally true that without evidence, witnesses to corroborate the account, or any evidence that such a case would be weak and extremely unlikely to result in sentencing?

 

 

 

Well it would come down to credibility of the witness and which side a jury believed. My guess is that the State would have alot of ammo to attack Henry's credibility.

Of course this is only a misdemeanor he is being "charged" with (I beleive) so it wouldn't even go to trial. The police will investigate the complaint and likely not find enough to go on and it will be dropped.

 

Going back to the original jist of this thread though, this does show that Henry is still a punk (if true) and that he better get his head straight or he'll be out of the league for good soon.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Well it would come down to credibility of the witness and which side a jury believed. My guess is that the State would have alot of ammo to attack Henry's credibility.

Of course this is only a misdemeanor he is being "charged" with (I beleive) so it wouldn't even go to trial. The police will investigate the complaint and likely not find enough to go on and it will be dropped.

 

Going back to the original jist of this thread though, this does show that Henry is still a punk (if true) and that he better get his head straight or he'll be out of the league for good soon.

Agreed about the punk part - he's not been charged yet though.

[Phurfur 70]

He was reinstated by the NFL and will play Sunday. He was not arrested and this is all based on heresay by a parking attendant.

 

topic over.

 

 

Henry owner??

 

 

Again - all based on the statements from a parking lot attendant, who may have had his own motives in calling the police....like, being a parking lot attendant.

 

but without witnesses to these alleged events, it's just one guy telling the cops that these things were said. Nothing will come of this. News media will jump on it because that's what the news media does. Cops will speak with Henry, who will deny it, they will speak to his friend, who will also deny it, and nothing will happen.

 

If and when Henry is suspended again, come on back and start a topic about it. For now this isn't even news. It's one parking lot attendant telling tall tales to the police. Now, Henry may or may not have said or done any of this - but what matters here is that without witnesses, it didn't happen.

 

No, Henry is a moron and will be suspended at sometime in the future for some reason. Now the thread is over!

[Dr. Octopus 0]

Agreed about the punk part - he's not been charged yet though.

 

 

Yes, that's why I put "charged" in quotes. Techincally he hasn't been charged but if he is, I belive its only a misdemeanor.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Henry owner??

No, Henry is a moron and will be suspended at sometime in the future for some reason. Now the thread is over!

 

Thank you, Mrs Cleo. can you give me this week's winning lotto numbers next?

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Yes, that's why I put "charged" in quotes. Techincally he hasn't been charged but if he is, I belive its only a misdemeanor.

 

In thew article posted by the OP it states that both alleged offenses are misdemeanors.

[Phurfur 70]

"Henry reportedly saying "don't you know who I am." " Yes I think we do. A FN overpaid idiot. It will be nice to see him suffer the same fate as Vick in the future.

 

 

No, there is a difference. Henry is "small time" and Vick is "big time".

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

What I always find fascinating is that when something like this comes out, you all take the media's report as gospel, even when it's pretty much just something that an attendant in a parking lot claimed.

 

If you were in the parking lot that day and that same attendant told you he had a hot stock tip, would you believe it and go invest?

 

If you were in the parking lot that day and that same attendant told you the same story about an athlete you liked, would you believe it?

 

No and no. But this is an athlete with a terrible track record who you all despise so you're perfectly willing to accept the attendant's version as gospel and Henry is guilty until proven innocent.

 

I think Henry is an idiot and a dirtbag - but I don't think there's enough here to judge this particular incident.

[ccb123 0]

No, there is a difference. Henry is "small time" and Vick is "big time".

 

Was big time!!!!

[OuttaLuck 0]

What I always find fascinating is that when something like this comes out, you all take the media's report as gospel, even when it's pretty much just something that an attendant in a parking lot claimed.

 

If you were in the parking lot that day and that same attendant told you he had a hot stock tip, would you believe it and go invest?

 

If you were in the parking lot that day and that same attendant told you the same story about an athlete you liked, would you believe it?

 

No and no. But this is an athlete with a terrible track record who you all despise so you're perfectly willing to accept the attendant's version as gospel and Henry is guilty until proven innocent.

 

I think Henry is an idiot and a dirtbag - but I don't think there's enough here to judge this particular incident.

 

All of us have not taken the reports in the media as gospel. You were trying to claim that the parking lot attendant's version of what happened is completely insufficient for any prosecution to occur or for any action to be taken against Henry. A couple of us disagreed with your assessment. You also seem to have implied in other posts that a parking lot attendant's word is not very worthy of consideration--I'm not sure why you apparently believe that a person's income level or employment status has substantial bearing upon credibility.

 

In my opinion, you're also trying to change the issue here. No, I wouldn't immediately "go invest" in a stock that a parking lot attendant recommended, but I wouldn't summarily dismiss it out of hand either. I would immediately dismiss your analogy as being relevant in any way.

 

If that attendant "told a story" about an athlete I respected, I probably would consider the reasons I respect that athlete in considering the version of the witness. However, it doesn't appear there's a lot of respect for Henry here, so once again I don't think your analogy is an apt one.

 

As far as your comment that "I don't think there's enough here to judge this particular incident", that position seems to be inconsistent with your earlier comments to the effect of "no one ever has been convicted" etc. and "topic over".

 

I'm not trying to pick a fight here--simply noting my belief that I think you've made unwarranted, categorical statements that were and are inaccurate.

 

to your 49ers (except whenever they go up against the Jints, of course).

[wiffleball 4,790]

Wow. I thought the Chris Henry altercation was pretty stupid.

 

...Until I wandered into the discussion about Chris Henry and walked smack-dab into the middle of a huge internet 'tard cripple fight.

[OuttaLuck 0]

Wow. I thought the Chris Henry altercation was pretty stupid.

 

...Until I wandered into the discussion about Chris Henry and walked smack-dab into the middle of a huge internet 'tard cripple fight.

 

Thanks for joining in with the rest of us 'tards, Wiffle! Glad to have ya here slinging some mud!

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

All of us have not taken the reports in the media as gospel. You were trying to claim that the parking lot attendant's version of what happened is completely insufficient for any prosecution to occur or for any action to be taken against Henry.

No, I was stating that without witnesses to corroborate the report, or an evidence of a transgression whatsoever, that it becomes the parking lot attendant's word against Henry's. As such a conviction would be extremely difficult. No one disagreed with that aspect.

 

I further added that since no one really knows what happened that it's unfair to make assumptions that Henry is in fact guilty of what allegedly happened.

 

A couple of us disagreed with your assessment. You also seem to have implied in other posts that a parking lot attendant's word is not very worthy of consideration--I'm not sure why you apparently believe that a person's income level or employment status has substantial bearing upon credibility.

 

I made no statement even resembling this. This is totally off base and frankly, out of line. I have no personal beef with you, but certainly will if you maintain this crap. What I was saying was that often celebrities are victims of thier rep or status. And I asked a hypothetical question - how do we know that this attendant isn't making the whole thing up? The point was this: since we weren't there and since there are no witnesses, we don't know what happened and there is equal chance that either version could be true. it wasn't a statement to any class or social standing or any generalization - it pointed to THIS SPECIFIC INCIDENT AND QUESTIONED THE VALIDITY. Neither you, I, nor the general public knows what really happened in that parking lot that day, and it is possible that there are aspects to this story that we do not know. Do you deny this?

 

Either quote me stating that I believe that a person's income level or employment status has substantial bearing upon credibility or apologize, because this is horsesh!t.

 

I'm not sure why you'd blatently make sh!t up like that - perhaps that's your thing. I'll await your pending apology.

 

 

In my opinion, you're also trying to change the issue here. No, I wouldn't immediately "go invest" in a stock that a parking lot attendant recommended, but I wouldn't summarily dismiss it out of hand either. I would immediately dismiss your analogy as being relevant in any way.

The point is that you wouldn't take his word as gospel on other subjects, so why would you accept his allegations against Henry as gospel? The relevance should have been obvious.

 

If that attendant "told a story" about an athlete I respected, I probably would consider the reasons I respect that athlete in considering the version of the witness. However, it doesn't appear there's a lot of respect for Henry here, so once again I don't think your analogy is an apt one.

 

Actually it wasn't an analogy - it was a comparison of opposite extremes. What I said was exactly what you're supporting with this statement: that if you respected Henry you'd be less inclined to believe the attendant, but because you do not respect Henry you would be more inclined to believe the attendant. Thanks for backing me up on that, really.

 

 

As far as your comment that "I don't think there's enough here to judge this particular incident", that position seems to be inconsistent with your earlier comments to the effect of "no one ever has been convicted" etc. and "topic over".

Hardly - I am saying exactly the same thing - totally consistent. That I am NOT willing to be judge, jury and executioner as some of you obvuously are judging by the hateful comments towards Henry based solely on the word of one parking garage attendant. Sorry, was that derogatory? I mean, that's his job, right? Maybe it's you who assigns negative connotations. If I said you worked at Burger King, but you worked in a bank, that's derogatory. Calling a parking lot attendant a parking lot attendant is not.

 

Personally, baed on his track record, I think Henry is an idiot and a thug, but baed on ONE GUY'S account that Henry allegedly said something mean to him, I don't think it's enough to state that he should be suspended from the NFL. Last I checked I'm entitled to that opinion, no?

 

And the "topic ovah" comment was in reference to my opinion of the likelyhood of Henry being suspended over this, which I think is low.

 

I'm not trying to pick a fight here--simply noting my belief that I think you've made unwarranted, categorical statements that were and are inaccurate.

 

No? Then why are you posting lies about things I've said? Please search the entire FFT site and find a single example of classism from me. One statement indicating that I believe that someone of lower income isn't credible based on thier income or social standing. You can't because there aren't any, yet there you are making that asinine and insulting statement nonetheless. If you don't want to pick a fight then don't make statements painting me in the light of a racist or classist - then I won't have any reason to fight with you.

 

What I said had to do with one guy in one specific circumstance - and the point was that he may or may not be telling the truth - it has NOTHING to do with his job, income level or social status - but it is a FACT that Chris Henry is a millionaire athlete, and that as such he could well be a target for this sort of thing. Especially because of his track record. Hell, if I saw Henry on the street I'd probably pop off to him hoping he'd lose his cool and punch me so I could sue for millions. Not really, but bet your ass there's a hell of a lot of people who would.

 

What I said was intended to show that the allegations are not the only possible thing that could have happened in that parking garage that day, and that perhaps the attendent (one specific person, who happens to be in that income/employment level) could have had alterior motives for calling the police. Maybe he wanted attention, or maybe he who said something stupid to Henry with the hope that he'd get punched and have a lawsuit. Again - not saying those were his motives, but that one has to consider the possibility.

 

But hey - way to judge me, assume things that aren't true and call me out on it based on your own misconceptions. Very decent of you.

 

 

As an aside, I think it's quite likely that the garage attendant was telling the truth, and that Henry is actually a thug jerkoff asshat who should be kicked in the nuts for his transgressions...but I try to be fair and put my personal bias aside when reading an allegation like this - one where no witnesses are thre to support it, and where no charges have been filed, yet the media is blowing it up. The more someone gets thrown under the bus without evidence the more inclined I am to defend that person regardless of how I personally feel about them because I don't think that's fair.

[ROCKET 0]

Meh - I think if anything were to happen it would have over the stolen car parked in Henry's driveway.

 

No charges filed, no league issue. I am pretty sure the CBA has some limits as to what Goodell can act on. Wealthy athletes get accussed of crap all the time. Look at Kobe Bryant - how do we know this parking lot attendant didn't tell Henry, "gimme $100 or I'll tell the cops you assaulted me!" - stranger things have happened.

 

Now, do I think Henry acted the fool again? Probably. Do I think it's a "huge gamble" to bank on him helping my fantasy team? Hardly - 17th round pick out of 20 rounds, he's sat innocently on my roster while waiting for his return. With injuries to other starters, my last viable WRs are Housh, Jennings and a choice between Marty Booker, Brandon Jones or Mark Clayton. Chris Henry can't get back to the field soon enough! No gamble at all - if he doesn't work out, no loss. If he works out, huge gain. You do know he had as many TDs as Housh last year in several fewer game, right? The guy is a punk, a thug, and probably a complete d!ckhead, but he sure can catch him some footballs for TDs. And that has a place on my team.

 

 

A 20 player roster? I guess even rostering Barry Sanders and waiting for his triumphant return would be no big deal in that league. For the rest of us with a typical 14- 16 player league sitting on a guy like Henry for 9 weeks means we likely wasted a valuable roster spot. I'd rather have used that spot and grabbed a guy off waivers like Engram or even a TE like Olsen .

[OuttaLuck 0]

No, I was stating that without witnesses to corroborate the report, or an evidence of a transgression whatsoever, that it becomes the parking lot attendant's word against Henry's. As such a conviction would be extremely difficult. No one disagreed with that aspect.

 

I further added that since no one really knows what happened that it's unfair to make assumptions that Henry is in fact guilty of what allegedly happened.

I made no statement even resembling this. This is totally off base and frankly, out of line. I have no personal beef with you, but certainly will if you maintain this crap. What I was saying was that often celebrities are victims of thier rep or status. And I asked a hypothetical question - how do we know that this attendant isn't making the whole thing up? The point was this: since we weren't there and since there are no witnesses, we don't know what happened and there is equal chance that either version could be true. it wasn't a statement to any class or social standing or any generalization - it pointed to THIS SPECIFIC INCIDENT AND QUESTIONED THE VALIDITY. Neither you, I, nor the general public knows what really happened in that parking lot that day, and it is possible that there are aspects to this story that we do not know. Do you deny this?

 

Either quote me stating that I believe that a person's income level or employment status has substantial bearing upon credibility or apologize, because this is horsesh!t.

 

I'm not sure why you'd blatently make sh!t up like that - perhaps that's your thing. I'll await your pending apology.

The point is that you wouldn't take his word as gospel on other subjects, so why would you accept his allegations against Henry as gospel? The relevance should have been obvious.

Actually it wasn't an analogy - it was a comparison of opposite extremes. What I said was exactly what you're supporting with this statement: that if you respected Henry you'd be less inclined to believe the attendant, but because you do not respect Henry you would be more inclined to believe the attendant. Thanks for backing me up on that, really.

Hardly - I am saying exactly the same thing - totally consistent. That I am NOT willing to be judge, jury and executioner as some of you obvuously are judging by the hateful comments towards Henry based solely on the word of one parking garage attendant. Sorry, was that derogatory? I mean, that's his job, right? Maybe it's you who assigns negative connotations. If I said you worked at Burger King, but you worked in a bank, that's derogatory. Calling a parking lot attendant a parking lot attendant is not.

 

Personally, baed on his track record, I think Henry is an idiot and a thug, but baed on ONE GUY'S account that Henry allegedly said something mean to him, I don't think it's enough to state that he should be suspended from the NFL. Last I checked I'm entitled to that opinion, no?

 

And the "topic ovah" comment was in reference to my opinion of the likelyhood of Henry being suspended over this, which I think is low.

No? Then why are you posting lies about things I've said? Please search the entire FFT site and find a single example of classism from me. One statement indicating that I believe that someone of lower income isn't credible based on thier income or social standing. You can't because there aren't any, yet there you are making that asinine and insulting statement nonetheless. If you don't want to pick a fight then don't make statements painting me in the light of a racist or classist - then I won't have any reason to fight with you.

 

What I said had to do with one guy in one specific circumstance - and the point was that he may or may not be telling the truth - it has NOTHING to do with his job, income level or social status - but it is a FACT that Chris Henry is a millionaire athlete, and that as such he could well be a target for this sort of thing. Especially because of his track record. Hell, if I saw Henry on the street I'd probably pop off to him hoping he'd lose his cool and punch me so I could sue for millions. Not really, but bet your ass there's a hell of a lot of people who would.

 

What I said was intended to show that the allegations are not the only possible thing that could have happened in that parking garage that day, and that perhaps the attendent (one specific person, who happens to be in that income/employment level) could have had alterior motives for calling the police. Maybe he wanted attention, or maybe he who said something stupid to Henry with the hope that he'd get punched and have a lawsuit. Again - not saying those were his motives, but that one has to consider the possibility.

 

But hey - way to judge me, assume things that aren't true and call me out on it based on your own misconceptions. Very decent of you.

As an aside, I think it's quite likely that the garage attendant was telling the truth, and that Henry is actually a thug jerkoff asshat who should be kicked in the nuts for his transgressions...but I try to be fair and put my personal bias aside when reading an allegation like this - one where no witnesses are thre to support it, and where no charges have been filed, yet the media is blowing it up. The more someone gets thrown under the bus without evidence the more inclined I am to defend that person regardless of how I personally feel about them because I don't think that's fair.

 

You stated "it is an uncorroborated account - no witnesses, no video, nothing. Then it becomes he said/she said and no one has ever been convicted based on that. sorry." You also stated in another message "topic over". Since the topic was about Henry being in trouble again, you initially were trying to indicate that there was virtually NO possibility of any action against Henry, not that a conviction would be difficult or that any action by the NFL would be difficult.

You stated "Again - all based on the statements from a parking lot attendant, who may have had his own motives in calling the police....like, being a parking lot attendant" and "the only one talking is the attendant - you'd have a better chance getting a statement from the $5-er than Henry or his pal, so case closed." You don't think those comments are derogatory about being a parking lot attendant, and imply (as I said) that his word is somehow less worthy than others? Right. Perhaps you'll at least concede that those comments of yours easily could've been viewed as less than flattering, if not downright insulting.

I specifically said I didn't accept the attendant's allegations as gospel. Why would you compare someone's observations about something he witnessed to a stock market suggestion? Utterly ridiculous.

I didn't say I'd be less inclined to believe the witness (and thank you for finally admitting he IS a witness). I said I'd take it into account. Huge difference. I probably should've been more accurate in saying that I'd consider my respect for the athlete in assessing the overall credibility of each.

Also, I don't agree that you've been consistent. Initially, you were taking the position that an uncorroborated statement provided no basis whatsoever for any sanctions against Henry. Now, you've changed that position to one that you're not the judge or jury.

I didn't post any lies about you, as is demonstrated by the above comments. You frequently post messages or comments as if they're incontrovertible when they are not. You post some good information here, but when a poster makes comments I believe to be inaccurate, I see no reason why I shouldn't respond.

[DC 10]

"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!!!"

 

Gordon Jump's best work this side of Diff'rent Strokes

 

 

here you go:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o5L9jiIfbY

 

perhaps the funniest clip from WKRP. Great show. Very underrated. For those of you unfamiliar with it, check it out.

 

And.... Bailey > Jennifer for sure!

[OuttaLuck 0]

here you go:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o5L9jiIfbY

 

perhaps the funniest clip from WKRP. Great show. Very underrated. For those of you unfamiliar with it, check it out.

 

And.... Bailey > Jennifer for sure!

 

Very good show, for those of us old enough to remember it...and Bailey it is!

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

here you go:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o5L9jiIfbY

 

perhaps the funniest clip from WKRP. Great show. Very underrated. For those of you unfamiliar with it, check it out.

 

And.... Bailey > Jennifer for sure!

 

Bailey > Jennifer.

 

And the turkey drop was indeed the single funniest episode of a very funny & underrated show.

 

FWIW, Bailey => http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp...an_Smithers.jpg - very pretty woman.

 

Jennifer was no slouch though => http://www.cfhf.net/lyrics/images/wkrp2.jpg Yum. Hell of a body, but her face and quaffed hair always bugged me.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

A 20 player roster? I guess even rostering Barry Sanders and waiting for his triumphant return would be no big deal in that league. For the rest of us with a typical 14- 16 player league sitting on a guy like Henry for 9 weeks means we likely wasted a valuable roster spot. I'd rather have used that spot and grabbed a guy off waivers like Engram or even a TE like Olsen .

 

all about perspective.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

You stated "Again - all based on the statements from a parking lot attendant, who may have had his own motives in calling the police....like, being a parking lot attendant" and "the only one talking is the attendant - you'd have a better chance getting a statement from the $5-er than Henry or his pal, so case closed." You don't think those comments are derogatory about being a parking lot attendant, and imply (as I said) that his word is somehow less worthy than others? Right. Perhaps you'll at least concede that those comments of yours easily could've been viewed as less than flattering, if not downright insulting.

 

No, I do not, so no, I will not concede any such thing.

 

Neither of the statements were derogatory - the statements were indicating that it's a parking lot attendant Vs a millionaire athlete.

 

Saying he could have had his own motives based on the fact that he is a lower income person making allegations against a significantly higher income person was just that - saying that often celebrities are victims of thier celebrity. I most certainly did NOT state in any way shape or form that a person lacks credibility because they are a parking lot attendant.

 

There's a huge focking difference. Smart as you seem, not sure how you drew the conclusions above, but you're way out of line.