Chris Johnson vs. Minn - Week 4

[karmarooster 0]

Ok this week the Tennessee Titans play Minnesota at home. Minn has very good defensive stats vs. RBs this season... 45 points allowed all season, 15 pts per game average.

 

This is an interesting matchup. Minn has a huge defensive front esp at DT, so i figure LenDale White might be less effective and used only for goal line carries. CJ3 has such speed, will he be effective against this tough matchup? I've heard that the Vikings defense can be exploited on the outside. The game is at home, so that should be some benefit.

 

In week 1, someone posted to predict that the Titans would feature Johnson bc of Jacksonville's physical defense, and it proved to be true. However now Jacksonville gives up the 9th most RB points, so they clearly aren't as good as Minnesota.

 

So this week, is johnson worth a start because of his skill set in this matchup, or does he go the bench because of the stingy Minnesota defense?

 

I think Lendale white is good for around 40 yards and a TD, but CJ3 is much trickier...

[FeelingMN 273]

CJ is the better bet to put up points against the Vikes this weekend, though if you have other backs I would use them instead.

 

Lendale should be benched regardless.

[lambert58 71]

CJ is the better bet to put up points against the Vikes this weekend, though if you have other backs I would use them instead.

 

Lendale should be benched regardless.

 

 

 

 

 

Lendale could easily get the ball on the 1 yard line. Remember that the Titans have the topped ranked defense in the league. One Frerrote interception or poor field position can easily set up White. I have a hard time believing that if the Titans score it will always be from 10+ yards. Lendale is as good as a choice as Johnson every week until proven otherwise. I know the season is early but he is tied for 3rd most rushing touchdowns in the league with 4. I would play him until he proves that he is not the goal line back.

[jocstrap 8]

Minnesota will feel the pain of a real rushing attack this weekend. I can't wait to play CJ with confidence in the two leagues I own him.

 

You will see ball control/ clock control domination from the Titan's. C.J is going to break a long screen pass or long run. I just feel it

[holamolla 0]

Minnesota will feel the pain of a real rushing attack this weekend. I can't wait to play CJ with confidence in the two leagues I own him.

 

You will see ball control/ clock control domination from the Titan's. C.J is going to break a long screen pass or long run. I just feel it

its a terrible matchup no matter how you slice it with what we've seen over the last year. The only way cj does do good is if he breaks a long one, which is a long shot imo. If you have other options I would look there myself.

[Guest BernardPollardFan]

Lendale could easily get the ball on the 1 yard line.

EXACTLY, his success depends on whether his teammates can get inside the red zone, but not all the way into the end zone. This makes him too unreliable to start in fantasy football.

[jocstrap 8]

its a terrible matchup no matter how you slice it with what we've seen over the last year. The only way cj does do good is if he breaks a long one, which is a long shot imo. If you have other options I would look there myself.

 

 

Didn't All Day as a rookie last year demolish a top rated defense? It could happen, you never know

[Guest BernardPollardFan]

Didn't All Day as a rookie last year demolish a top rated defense? It could happen, you never know

Top rated defense minus their best tackler in the secondary and their best defensive end. AllDayrian Peterson was getting nothing until Castillo went out.

[CookieG 4]

CJ3 will finally break off a long score cause i'm finally gonna sit him this weekend.

[lambert58 71]

EXACTLY, his success depends on whether his teammates can get inside the red zone, but not all the way into the end zone. This makes him too unreliable to start in fantasy football.

 

 

 

uhm, aren't most rushing touchdowns scored from the red-zone? Do you not watch the Titans games and see that Lendale splits carries and series with Johnson? He is not just waiting on the sidelines like Michael Pittman waiting for a chance at the 2. On the season, Lendale has 1 less carry than Johnson. The upside of this is even when Johnson gets the ball down within the 5 they pull him for White. On the season White has 4 touchdowns compared to Johnson's 1. What part of that do you not get besides the fact you own Johnson?

[karmarooster 0]

look i wasn't trying to make this into a LenDale White vs. CJ3 thread. i know lendale gets the goal line carries, but i don't expect much more than 25-50 yards and maybe a TD this week.

 

specifically, can CJ3 burn the vikings Defense? they are tough against the run, but maybe not against a speedster ike CJ3.

 

some seem to say no... anyone want to disagree?

[lambert58 71]

look i wasn't trying to make this into a LenDale White vs. CJ3 thread. i know lendale gets the goal line carries, but i don't expect much more than 25-50 yards and maybe a TD this week.

 

specifically, can CJ3 burn the vikings Defense? they are tough against the run, but maybe not against a speedster ike CJ3.

 

some seem to say no... anyone want to disagree?

 

 

No one knows. You would have thought that C.J. would have burned the Texans but he didn't. It depends on a lot of factors like play calling and defensive alignment. If the Vikes call a blitz and C.J. receives a hand off or screen pass then it is possible. A long run can be had on any team at any time. There is no way to predict it.

 

 

Use your gut feeling and go with it.

 

 

Good Luck.

[FantasyChick 0]

I drafted Kevin Smith as my second back becuse this site had him so high and grabbed White as my 4th. I have started White the last 2 weeks as my 2nd RB and have no regrets. He is the 14th ranked back in my leage trailing Chris Johnson at 13 by 1 freaking point. With bye weeks here, start White and don't look back.

[lambert58 71]

I drafted Kevin Smith as my second back becuse this site had him so high and grabbed White as my 4th. I have started White the last 2 weeks as my 2nd RB and have no regrets. He is the 14th ranked back in my leage trailing Chris Johnson at 13 by 1 freaking point. With bye weeks here, start White and don't look back.

 

 

Obviously we have different scoring systems but in my league White is the 8th ranked running back and Chris Johnson is 26th.

 

We give 1 point for every 30 yards of rushing or receiving and no PPR.

[sirwinzalot 1]

I'm sitting CJ, it's just a bad matchup, and that's pretty much all you can go on. Predicting he'll break a long one, is a long shot. I started him with confidence against the texans, and I got burnt. I'm gonna sit him, even in favor of LJ against Denver.

[dreadlocks34 0]

Minnesota will feel the pain of a real rushing attack this weekend. I can't wait to play CJ with confidence in the two leagues I own him.

 

You will see ball control/ clock control domination from the Titan's. C.J is going to break a long screen pass or long run. I just feel it

 

Being the Vikings gave up less than 60 yards per game rushing last season and are better this season, I would think that is pretty bold. They completely and totally shut down Addai, shut down Carolina and they missed one tackle on Ryan Grant which sucked but the other 25 or so attempts the Packers ran went for about 50 yards.

 

Lenwhale is probably a better bet like Stewart was last week scoring short range but keep in mind the Vikings have been really really stout on the goal line so far this season.

 

I personally think that Kerry Collins is going to have to beat the Vikings because I don't believe there is a team in the league at this moment that is going to beat the Vikings by running them over.

[Guest BernardPollardFan]

I'm a ######

ok

[karmarooster 0]

I don't believe there is a team in the league at this moment that is going to beat the Vikings by running them over.

 

yes i agree 100% here. but running over is lendale white's job, and running around is chris johnson's job.

 

Addai, Ryan Grant, JStewart and DeAngelo williams are very different backs from CJ3. you cannot run between the tackles on Minnesota.

 

Does anyone know if the vikings have slow LBs?

[BLS 314]

yes i agree 100% here. but running over is lendale white's job, and running around is chris johnson's job.

 

Addai, Ryan Grant, JStewart and DeAngelo williams are very different backs from CJ3. you cannot run between the tackles on Minnesota.

 

Does anyone know if the vikings have slow LBs?

 

 

No. I'm a Vikes homer, but a FF player first.

 

EJ Henderson is a freaking tackling machine and is EVERYWHERE outside the tackles.

Leber and Greenway are both fast and sure tacklers, but not near as good IMO as EJ.

 

You can't run on the Vikes.

 

But if you were to manage to do it...it would ONLY be with a speed back who makes a solid cutback and can outrun Sharper.

That would be CJ3. Although I do own him in all 3 leagues, I'm not real impressed with his cutbacks and field vision yet. He's yet to show me he can make the quick read/cut in the open field. He's used to his speed being enough, and in the NFL, that ain't gonna cut it.

 

Go back and watch the run vs. Cincy (51 yarder).

Had he cut back inside and blasted the jets, he's in for a score.

instead he takes on the safety, and while he may get another 7 yards for it, he misses the hole for the score. He has some learning to do.

He's a bit raw....but his speed and hopefully football saavy will pay dividends.

 

Anybody is a fool to bank on anyone running vs. the Vikes. BUT...I could see him busting a long one.

I'm just not banking on it. The Vikes are stifling on defense, especially up front...but if he gets past the LB's it's all over.

[jocstrap 8]

Being the Vikings gave up less than 60 yards per game rushing last season and are better this season, I would think that is pretty bold. They completely and totally shut down Addai, shut down Carolina and they missed one tackle on Ryan Grant which sucked but the other 25 or so attempts the Packers ran went for about 50 yards.

 

Lenwhale is probably a better bet like Stewart was last week scoring short range but keep in mind the Vikings have been really really stout on the goal line so far this season.

 

I personally think that Kerry Collins is going to have to beat the Vikings because I don't believe there is a team in the league at this moment that is going to beat the Vikings by running them over.

 

 

They are now playing one of the greatest running teams in the league. Tennessee has been playing in a much tougher division the past couple of years. They will get their rushing yards this weekend.

 

Minny has played

week 1 - GB ranked 15th rushing Grant does not impress me sorry - plus wasn't he injured preseason or something

week 2 - Indy ranked 31st- this team has been clobbered with injuries - addai was great last year - this is a different year

week 3 - Carolina ranked 22nd - Dwilly and Jstewart are good, but not Lendale and CJ good!

 

Tough to get a real gage on Minny's rush defense so far this year. They have not played a true rushing team yet. We will find out this weekend.

 

Tennesse is ranked #7 in the league in rushing this year

1 - Atlanta

2 - Baltimore

3 - Oakland

4 - Seattle

5 - Minnesota

6 - Giants

7 - Tennessee

 

Apparently, I'll be the only one on this board starting Chris Johnson. I don't play the match up game.

[karmarooster 0]

i'm debating between CJ3 and DeAngelo Williams vs. Atlanta...

 

terrible matchup vs. excellent matchup...

 

stud vs. scrub...

[sanders 0]

I've got CJ but I'm sitting him this week and starting Perry at home against Clevland.

 

Good call?

[Guest BernardPollardFan]

I've got CJ but I'm sitting him this week and starting Perry at home against Clevland.

 

Good call?

I like it.

[The Next Generation 10]

I've got CJ but I'm sitting him this week and starting Perry at home against Clevland.

 

Good call?

 

Me too in 1 league, however, I'll be starting CJ3 in 2 other leagues as my flex.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,281]

now you guys are making me think of Benching him for Roddy White or Dwayne Bowe in my flex

[Guest BernardPollardFan]

now you guys are making me think of Benching him for Roddy White or Dwayne Bowe in my flex

I wouldn't do that. I almost always start a RB if I'm given a flex spot. Receivers, especially Bowe and White, are typically feast or famine.

 

Chris Johnson will get his touches, guaranteed.

[Stopper 0]

CJ3 will finally break off a long score cause i'm finally gonna sit him this weekend.

 

Thanks, I appreciate it! Due to injuries and bye weeks, I HAVE to start him this week!

[9-Route 0]

this game will be a heavyweight slugfest between 2 teams that resemble themselves.

 

actually, minnesota mimiced tennessee after watching the titans allow polished veteran kerry collins run their offense and utilize a power rush attack backed up by monster defense. now, the gus frerotte streak is 1-0, and the vikes are back on the high expectation playoff track.

 

i think the game will resemble the chargers-titans wildcard playoff game from last yr. running will be tough, defenses staunch, and field position at a premium. the team whose quarterback makes the least mistakes and most big throws to gain big chunks of yardage will have the big advantage to win.

 

that said, im playing lendale as my hb3, since even 30/1 is 9pts from that spot; id play johnson as he may catch more passes and have a chance late to break his usual long run. peterson should be played regardless.