Blockbuster trade completed, opinions wanted!

[Texansfan 0]

OK first of all this is not a help forum question. This deal is done already.

 

As commish of the league & considering the magnitude of the deal and players involved, I wanted to get some outsiders opinions.

 

Before trade.

 

Team A:

 

Cutler

AJ, S.Smith, Calvin, Housh, L.Moore

Bush, MJD, Chris Johnson

 

Team B:

 

Rodgers

R.Brown, S.Morris, L.Maroney, F.Taylor

Marshall, Chambers, A.Randel El, I.Hilliard

 

 

Team A traded: Reggie Bush, Steve Smith, Calvin Johnson

 

Team B traded: Ronnie Brown, Brandon Marshall, Chris Chambers

 

This league has standard scoring with .5 PPR.

 

Opinions?

[FantasyKing 4]

Clearly Team A is a moron.

[Your Playing 4 Second 0]

Clearly Team A is a moron.

 

 

Can I ask how Team A drafted all those players?

[DexterMorgan 5]

Clearly Team A is a moron.

 

An argument could be make for team A, i don't think it's that far off. I actually like Ronnie Brown/Marshall better than Reggie/SS. And without Roy and Kitna Calvin could be garbage

[Texansfan 0]

An argument could be make for team A, i don't think it's that far off. I actually like Ronnie Brown/Marshall better than Reggie/SS. And without Roy and Kitna Calvin could be garbage

 

When I evaluate a trade first I look at the best player in the trade. Because usually that's who has the edge in the deal.

 

In this instance I think the best player is Brandon Marshall which favors team A. Then if you break it down player by player.

 

Marshall > Smith

 

Bush > Brown but not by much and an argument could be made for Brown

 

Calvin = Chambers

 

So I see it as a pretty even deal with a slight edge to team A getting the best player overall.

[DexterMorgan 5]

Ah, i was mistaken in who got which players. I agree that the Marshall/Ronnie side got the better. But seems pretty even

[mambokings 0]

OK first of all this is not a help forum question. This deal is done already

 

Rate my Team, Rate my Trade...it's all the same

[washers 0]

Can I ask how Team A drafted all those players?

Team A:

Cutler

AJ, S.Smith, Calvin, Housh, L.Moore

Bush, MJD, Chris Johnson

 

REALLY? must you cut down a remotely good team... this follows preseason adp fairly well...

not sure who would be the 1st rounder actually, bush?or mjd? AJ in the 3rd, Cutler/Housh 4th/5th

Calvin 6th, Smith 7th... not like this is proposterous.

 

Just because hes got a pretty good lineup now, it may have looked like sh!t week 1... with all the bradys, mannings, owenses, mosses, tomlinsons, and petersons out there, but this is a solid drafted team

[Cuse9 129]

Team A:

Cutler

AJ, S.Smith, Calvin, Housh, L.Moore

Bush, MJD, Chris Johnson

 

REALLY? must you cut down a remotely good team... this follows preseason adp fairly well...

not sure who would be the 1st rounder actually, bush?or mjd? AJ in the 3rd, Cutler/Housh 4th/5th

Calvin 6th, Smith 7th... not like this is proposterous.

 

Just because hes got a pretty good lineup now, it may have looked like sh!t week 1... with all the bradys, mannings, owenses, mosses, tomlinsons, and petersons out there, but this is a solid drafted team

The guy wasn't "cutting down a good team". He was simply asking how he drafted those guys. Simple question. I don't see how he is bashing him at all? If it's a small league I'll agree he could draft those players. If it's a bigger league it would be tough to get them all. In any event, it was only a question.

 

And those are merely the guys he's trading, you would assume he has a couple better players that he kept. So, asking how he acquired/drafted the players is a valid question. You are assuming he's trading his first seven picks. Which I find amazing, never seen it before?

[washers 0]

The guy wasn't "cutting down a good team". He was simply asking how he drafted those guys. Simple question. I don't see how he is bashing him at all? If it's a small league I'll agree he could draft those players. If it's a bigger league it would be tough to get them all. In any event, it was only a question.

 

And those are merely the guys he's trading, you would assume he has a couple better players that he kept. So, asking how he acquired/drafted the players is a valid question. You are assuming he's trading his first seven picks. Which I find amazing, never seen it before?

it just sounded like everyones post of "hope you win your four man league" they just get annoying. and i am a bitter person

(and hes only trading 3, thats their teams)

[Cuse9 129]

it just sounded like everyones post of "hope you win your four man league" they just get annoying. and i am a bitter person

(and hes only trading 3, thats their teams)

 

Ah, didn't realize that was their entire team. I agree with you. Definitly possible that he drafted them. I also I agree with you on people are always ready to rip on someone for drafting a great team.

 

There are only two ways to have a great team in here:

 

1..."You're in a league with idiots" or "Two man league"

 

2..."You" drafted the team. Of course if "I" draft/assemble a great team it's because I'm a genius, but if anyone else does it it's because they play in a league of idiots.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Rate my Team, Rate my Trade...it's all the same

 

+1

[ROCKET 0]

Ah, didn't realize that was their entire team. I agree with you. Definitly possible that he drafted them. I also I agree with you on people are always ready to rip on someone for drafting a great team.

 

There are only two ways to have a great team in here:

 

1..."You're in a league with idiots" or "Two man league"

 

2..."You" drafted the team. Of course if "I" draft/assemble a great team it's because I'm a genius, but if anyone else does it it's because they play in a league of idiots.

 

 

Maybe he's just pointing out the obvious fact that anyone in a redraft league who has 5/6 guys on his roster that normally go in the first 2 1/2-3 rounds was involved in a very weak draft. I don't think that's bashing anyone, it is was it is. And yes I agree with him that it's ridiculous to even give advice to anyone who can play in a league where you can draft a team like that.

 

It's like shooting fish in a barrell. Are you saying there is a logical answer as to how he assembled that team if he's in a league of competent owners? I can't see it.

[Cuse9 129]

Maybe he's just pointing out the obvious fact that anyone in a redraft league who has 5/6 guys on his roster that normally go in the first 2 1/2-3 rounds was involved in a very weak draft. I don't think that's bashing anyone, it is was it is. And yes I agree with him that it's ridiculous to even give advice to anyone who can play in a league where you can draft a team like that.

 

It's like shooting fish in a barrell. Are you saying there is a logical answer as to how he assembled that team if he's in a league of competent owners? I can't see it.

My guess assuming it's a 10 team league:

1. Maurice Jones-Drew......early, but this is all I can figure?

2. Andre Johnson....went 2nd round in my 14 teamer

3. TJ Houshmand....solid #1 wr, reasonable he goes here.

4. Reggie Bush...not alot of hype around him going into this year.

5. Steve Smith...with the two game suspension he seemed to go later this year.

6. Calvin Johnson...ten team league, I can see him going around here.

7. Chris Johnson....Lendale was the starter, so CJ could have easily fell here.

8. Jay Cutler....QB's can alwasy be had later.

 

Safe to assume Lance Moore was a fa pick up.

 

It's conceivable that this is how he drafted? But, I'm only guessing?!

[49ers_suck 0]

when i looked at the original teams, i wondered why did team A even mess with his team?

[kmbryant09 1]

When I evaluate a trade first I look at the best player in the trade. Because usually that's who has the edge in the deal.

 

In this instance I think the best player is Brandon Marshall which favors team A. Then if you break it down player by player.

 

Marshall > Smith

 

Bush > Brown but not by much and an argument could be made for Brown

 

Calvin = Chambers

 

So I see it as a pretty even deal with a slight edge to team A getting the best player overall.

 

 

Really?!?!? you couldnt be any wronger here....

 

best player in a 1/2 ppr league is Reggie Bush - he has 107.5 points, and Marshall has 67.5. Even when you break it down by game, Bush is averaging roughly 18 ppg, while Marshall is at 13 ppg. So how is Marshall the best player??

 

Regardless, Marshall is better than Smith, I grant you that much...but not by as much as people would think...Smith is averaging 10 ppg, so a few behind Marshall, but Calvin has a few more points than Chambers, who is injured and missing time.

 

So one team is giving up the best player, averaging by far the most points, and gives up two solid top15 WRs for a rb averaging less points, a slightly better receiver, and a slightly worse wr who is currently not even playing...

[ChazzyCelotts 1]

Team A got the old "Screw You" on that one

[FrankRizzo 0]

It's simple ....

 

Team A wanted the QB/WR hook ... that way when Team A played Team B every week, Team B doesn't cancel out Cutler.

[DanXIII 8]

Clearly Team A is a moron.

 

This. Not even close.

 

I'd veto the trade simply because Team B won't win with that lineup and Team A is probably too dumb to win.

[washers 0]

Maybe he's just pointing out the obvious fact that anyone in a redraft league who has 5/6 guys on his roster that normally go in the first 2 1/2-3 rounds was involved in a very weak draft. I don't think that's bashing anyone, it is was it is. And yes I agree with him that it's ridiculous to even give advice to anyone who can play in a league where you can draft a team like that.

 

It's like shooting fish in a barrell. Are you saying there is a logical answer as to how he assembled that team if he's in a league of competent owners? I can't see it.

ADP- 10 team 12 team 14 team

Maurice Jones-Drew 3.01 2.09 2.06

Andre Johnson 2.08 2.06 2.05

TJ Housh 3.03 2.11 2.10

Reggie Bush 4.01 3.06 3.02

Steve Smith 3.10 3.07 3.03

Calvin Johnson 5.01 4.05 4.03

Chris Johnson 9.09 8.01 7.06

Jay Cutler 9.09 8.06 7.06

 

this could be a Brady team, early first round pick focked, get mjd and AJ on the 2/3 turn, get Bush and Housh on the 4/5 turn, Calvin and smith on the 6/7 turn

(in a 10-team) this is also barring any potential trades

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

It's simple ....

 

Team A wanted the QB/WR hook ... that way when Team A played Team B every week, Team B doesn't cancel out Cutler.

 

at the 'cancel out' theory which is garbage. I have Warner and absolutely spanked the Fitz owner several weeks ago when Boldin (on my team as well) caught the 2 or 3 TDs.

 

 

This. Not even close.

 

I'd veto the trade simply because Team B won't win with that lineup and Team A is probably too dumb to win.

 

Never veto anything. If it's obvious collusion, just kill them but never veto anything. If you think they're exceptionally stupid work out a deal with him then boot him next year.

[wild_and_crazy_guy 5]

Don't really care about your team. Since the trade "already happened", you should also move on with your life.