Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 14, 2009 You had every oppurtunity to make this team better. Totally screwed the pooch. You need to just send him what you want. If he declines he declines. If he sends a counter just keep sending him the same trade everytime he counters. Negotiating a deal is obviously too much for you at this time. I do I send Portis/Betts, Choice and Ginn and a 1st rounder for Gates, Gonzo, Hightower, Collins and Galloway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krizay 0 Posted June 14, 2009 I do I send Portis/Betts, Choice and Ginn and a 1st rounder for Gates, Gonzo, Hightower, Collins and Galloway I still don't see why you want Portis while you're in rebuild mode. If you was position to win this year, i'd take Portis. Considering you're rebuilding i'd take Rice. Then do the Brady trade to get DeAngelo Williams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 14, 2009 I still don't see why you want Portis while you're in rebuild mode. If you was position to win this year, i'd take Portis. Considering you're rebuilding i'd take Rice. Then do the Brady trade to get DeAngelo Williams. So you are saying Rice, Choice, Vernon Davis, Ginn Jr or Steve Smith and a first for Gates, Hightower, Gonzo, and Collins? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krizay 0 Posted June 14, 2009 So you are saying Rice, Choice, Vernon Davis, Ginn Jr or Steve Smith and a first for Gates, Hightower, Gonzo, and Collins? If it were me I'd take Rice, Ginn Jr & Steve Smith and a first If wanted to to sub Choice and Steve Smith so be it. If he's willing to throw in Vernon Davis in any of those deals. Cool. Let's be honest , you're really only giving up Gates and Gonzo. A Potential stud RB when he finally gets the nod and a 1st round pick more than makes up for them. IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 14, 2009 If it were me I'd take Rice, Ginn Jr & Steve Smith and a first If wanted to to sub Choice and Steve Smith so be it. If he's willing to throw in Vernon Davis in any of those deals. Cool. Let's be honest , you're really only giving up Gates and Gonzo. A Potential stud RB when he finally gets the nod and a 1st round pick more than makes up for them. IMO Yeah potential stud rb is what scares me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,136 Posted June 14, 2009 You have to get Ginn (not Steve Smith Giants) if you give up Anthony Gonzalez. You're receivers are pathetic and giving up Anthony Gonzalez is a bad idea unless you get back a somewhat equal WR. Make sure to get a first next year and Vernon Davis too. I like krizays' idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krizay 0 Posted June 14, 2009 Yeah potential stud rb is what scares me. Harbaugh already stated that Rice is ready to become the man in Baltimore. It's just a matter of time. I'm gauranteeing no later than the halfway point this year. regardless he'll be the starter in 2010. Which is basically your starting point with this squad you got going on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 14, 2009 Harbaugh already stated that Rice is ready to become the man in Baltimore. It's just a matter of time. I'm gauranteeing no later than the halfway point this year. regardless he'll be the starter in 2010. Which is basically your starting point with this squad you got going on here. I am just going to say Rice, Ginn Jr, Choice, Davis and a 1st rounder.. for Gates, Gonzo, Hightower and Kerry Collins Seams like I am giving up too much though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krizay 0 Posted June 14, 2009 I am just going to say Rice, Ginn Jr, Choice, Davis and a 1st rounder.. for Gates, Gonzo, Hightower and Kerry Collins Seams like I am giving up too much though. Unless you are raping the other owner it almost always seems like you give up too much. Like I said it's only Gates and Gonzo. You were willing to trade Gates for Lendale and Robiskie. Rice and Ginn has better value than White and Robiskie. Steve Smith or Choice (and Davis if he throws him in there) Plus a 1st round pick for Gonzo. Collins and Hightower you'd only start if you absolutely had to. In which case you're already going to lose anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 14, 2009 Unless you are raping the other owner it almost always seems like you give up too much. Like I said it's only Gates and Gonzo. You were willing to trade Gates for Lendale and Robiskie. Rice and Ginn has better value than White and Robiskie. Steve Smith or Choice (and Davis if he throws him in there) Plus a 1st round pick for Gonzo. Collins and Hightower you'd only start if you absolutely had to. In which case you're already going to lose anyway. I offered: Gates, Gonzalez, Hightower, and Collins (told him i would throw in ( Galloway too) for Rice, Steve Smith, Ginn Jr, Vernon Davis and a number 1 Here is what he said?: Wow, I can't believe you actually think I would do that. I am done. Apparently my guys are not worth his guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krizay 0 Posted June 14, 2009 I offered: Gates, Gonzalez, Hightower, and Collins (told him i would throw in ( Galloway too) for Rice, Steve Smith, Ginn Jr, Vernon Davis and a number 1 Here is what he said?: Wow, I can't believe you actually think I would do that. I am done. Apparently my guys are not worth his guys. Well, I can't say I blame him. I wouldn't have made that deal if I was him either. But he'll come calling again with a similar offer. Which he'll likely try to replace Ginn with Choice and remove Davis(maybe). In which case if I was you i'd then replace Smith for Ginn. He'll be back. But make sure you get Rice/Ginn and his 1st at the very least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 15, 2009 Well, I can't say I blame him. I wouldn't have made that deal if I was him either. But he'll come calling again with a similar offer. Which he'll likely try to replace Ginn with Choice and remove Davis(maybe). In which case if I was you i'd then replace Smith for Ginn. He'll be back. But make sure you get Rice/Ginn and his 1st at the very least. So I just sent him this I give Gates, Gonzalez, Hightower I get Rice, Ginn Jr and number 1 pick next year I also have a trade offer from another team I give Brady, Maclin, Collins I get Romo, Dwilliams and Massaqui Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lionsjunkie 1 Posted June 15, 2009 Replace Josh Freeman with Larry Johnson and I'd say pull the trigger. YOu are in a tough spot cause you have absolutely no RB's. How did this happen? You don't even have one starter at RB. And a very, very suspect WR Corps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,136 Posted June 15, 2009 So I just sent him thisI give Gates, Gonzalez, Hightower I get Rice, Ginn Jr and number 1 pick next year I also have a trade offer from another team I give Brady, Maclin, Collins I get Romo, Dwilliams and Massaqui 1. Good offer. 2. Accept immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 15, 2009 1. Good offer. 2. Accept immediately. My team before Brady, Ryan, Collins Washington, Hightower, Rashad Jennings, Bernard Scott/Brian Leonard, Andre Brown/Danny Ware Gonzalez, Breaston, Galloway, Higgins, Maclin, Britt, Devry Henderson, Dillard, Barden Gates, Boss, Ingram My team after: Ryan, Romo DWilliams, Rice, Washington, Jennings, the rest Breaston, Ginn Jr, Galloway, Higgins, Britt, Henderson, Barden, Massaqui (here is where i take a hit) Boss, Ingram I also have 2 first rounders, 2 2nd rounders for next year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,136 Posted June 15, 2009 You got those two trades completed now, then? Also, you might try to trade for Vernon Davis for cheap. He is going to be used extensively by Raye, the new Offensive Coordinator in San Francisco. Vernon Davis is immensely talented. He was thrown the ball 10 times in practice the other day and caught 8 of them. I listened to their G.M. on Sirius Satellite radio on Friday and he said Vernon Davis has been the standout player on the team at practices. Then you can work on getting a good WR to start. Kenny Britt could hopefuly come up big this year and you have Ginn now so that is at least a start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 15, 2009 You got those two trades completed now, then? Also, you might try to trade for Vernon Davis for cheap. He is going to be used extensively by Raye, the new Offensive Coordinator in San Francisco. Vernon Davis is immensely talented. He was thrown the ball 10 times in practice the other day and caught 8 of them. I listened to their G.M. on Sirius Satellite radio on Friday and he said Vernon Davis has been the standout player on the team at practices. Then you can work on getting a good WR to start. Kenny Britt could hopefuly come up big this year and you have Ginn now so that is at least a start. Still waiting on replies. One I will get tomorrow (the Brady trade) the other trade i have been going back and forth on He wants to send me Rice, Choice and Davis and a number 1 for Gonzo, Gates, and Hightower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quickolas1 80 Posted June 15, 2009 maybe i play in some kind of wacky other dimension or universe... but usually when an owner sends me an offer and i want to accept, i hit "accept" and dont have to wait for a response Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 15, 2009 maybe i play in some kind of wacky other dimension or universe... but usually when an owner sends me an offer and i want to accept, i hit "accept" and dont have to wait for a response It is all handled thru a different website until we transfer our stuff to our Yahoo site Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,136 Posted June 15, 2009 I also have a trade offer from another teamI give Brady, Maclin, Collins I get Romo, Dwilliams and Massaqui I thought you wanted to accept this? If he offered it and you accept it, it's a done deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,136 Posted June 15, 2009 Still waiting on replies. One I will get tomorrow (the Brady trade) the other trade i have been going back and forth on He wants to send me Rice, Choice and Davis and a number 1 for Gonzo, Gates, and Hightower You are pathetic if you receive an offer, accept it, and then still let the guy that offered you the trade back out of it. Regardless, I think you should get the original offer to include Vernon Davis and you throw some meaningless player back at him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 15, 2009 You are pathetic if you receive an offer, accept it, and then still let the guy that offered you the trade back out of it. Regardless, I think you should get the original offer to include Vernon Davis and you throw some meaningless player back at him. I said i would throw in Galloway for Vernon Davis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,136 Posted June 15, 2009 I said i would throw in Galloway for Vernon Davis Cool. Good Luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 15, 2009 So I just sent him thisI give Gates, Gonzalez, Hightower I get Rice, Ginn Jr and number 1 pick next year I also have a trade offer from another team I give Brady, Maclin, Collins I get Romo, Dwilliams and Massaqui I give Gates, Devry Henderson, Gonzalez, Hightower I get Rice, Choice, Ginn Jr, Vernon Davis and a second rounder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krizay 0 Posted June 15, 2009 I give Gates, Devry Henderson, Gonzalez, HightowerI get Rice, Choice, Ginn Jr, Vernon Davis and a second rounder Doesn't look nearly as enticing with out that 1st. But still a fair deal IMO. Giving your state. I'd do it and hope for the best. What kind of WR's are available in your league? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 15, 2009 Not really too much out there as far as wrs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,136 Posted June 15, 2009 I give Gates, Devry Henderson, Gonzalez, HightowerI get Rice, Choice, Ginn Jr, Vernon Davis and a second rounder I like it. I think he would be overpaying if he gives up a first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krizay 0 Posted June 15, 2009 Not really too much out there as far as wrs. This is crazy. You don't have a limit on how long you can keep a player? You can pretty much keep them as long as you want? Or did you have the auction already? Which I couldn't imagine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 15, 2009 This is crazy. You don't have a limit on how long you can keep a player? You can pretty much keep them as long as you want? Or did you have the auction already? Which I couldn't imagine. nope you can keep a player forever unless you are over your roster limit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krizay 0 Posted June 15, 2009 nope you can keep a player forever unless you are over your roster limit Well then, you're a better man than me. No way I take over that team with no telling of when things are going to turn around. Then to spend all this time trying..... F*** that! Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matts Eagles 25 Posted June 16, 2009 Well then, you're a better man than me. No way I take over that team with no telling of when things are going to turn around. Then to spend all this time trying..... F*** that! Good luck! It is a hobby and 16 team league deep rosters. You have to stock people on the bench to play during bye week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,136 Posted June 16, 2009 Let us know when you actually make a trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 0 Posted June 16, 2009 Hightower will at least start half the year. At best Hightower will be the 3rd down/GL back which does give him some value, but Wells will be the starter from day one. He's much more talented than Hightower and RBs don't need the dajustement period that WRs and QBs do. Wells is a big boy himself so its not even a given that Hightower will get GL carries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites