The Hood 9 Posted January 17, 2012 Caldwell fired. http://blogs.colts.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted January 17, 2012 I am excited, yet not happy because Fisher already signed with the Rams! I just don't know who else I would want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted January 17, 2012 I am excited, yet not happy because Fisher already signed with the Rams! I just don't know who else I would want. I'd think they'd have guys lining up for that job, seeing as Andrew Luck is in this draft and Indy has the #1 overall pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 67 Posted January 17, 2012 This leads me to believe there's a better chance of Manning being gone now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 67 Posted January 17, 2012 I am excited, yet not happy because Fisher already signed with the Rams! I just don't know who else I would want. While I don't want him gone, Zimmer would do you guys some good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 67 Posted January 17, 2012 While I don't want him gone, Zimmer would do you guys some good. Fox59 just mentioned Zimmer as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullog 12 Posted January 17, 2012 I don't know...I didn't follow the Indy situation very closely so I'm no expert but I think its hard to blame the guy for what happened this season. Its not his fault the team consisted of Peyton Manning, bailing wire and duct tape. I assumed that's why the Polians were canned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 67 Posted January 17, 2012 I don't know...I didn't follow the Indy situation very closely so I'm no expert but I think its hard to blame the guy for what happened this season. Its not his fault the team consisted of Peyton Manning, bailing wire and duct tape. I assumed that's why the Polians were canned. Well said. My only problem with Caldwell was his inability to adjust when Manning went down. Complete deer in the headlights look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted January 17, 2012 I don't know...I didn't follow the Indy situation very closely so I'm no expert but I think its hard to blame the guy for what happened this season. Its not his fault the team consisted of Peyton Manning, bailing wire and duct tape. I assumed that's why the Polians were canned. Personally most of us feel his game planning and questionable calls the last three years have been what has done it. He was completely outcoached and the team was not ready for that SB loss to the Saints. I truely believe, had Dungy been the coach, we would have won that game. Caldwell this year, we gotta get better. That is all he would say. I just don't think a HC job was what he is good at. He is a great guy and maybe a good QB coach, but that might be about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted January 18, 2012 Personally most of us feel his game planning and questionable calls the last three years have been what has done it. He was completely outcoached and the team was not ready for that SB loss to the Saints. I truely believe, had Dungy been the coach, we would have won that game. Caldwell this year, we gotta get better. That is all he would say. I just don't think a HC job was what he is good at. He is a great guy and maybe a good QB coach, but that might be about it. I think Zimmer would be a good hire for you guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted January 18, 2012 YES!!! Great news. THis guy had no business being head coach. Complete embarrassment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,564 Posted January 18, 2012 Manning's next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 67 Posted January 18, 2012 Manning's next. I think so. I'll dig it up if it happens, but my prediction was... - sign Flynn - trade Manning - trade the pick - rebuild completely in 2 years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gregzeetheking 0 Posted January 18, 2012 I think so. I'll dig it up if it happens, but my prediction was... - sign Flynn - trade Manning - trade the pick - rebuild completely in 2 years That is too smart and obvious of a decision to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted January 18, 2012 I think so. I'll dig it up if it happens, but my prediction was... - sign Flynn - trade Manning - trade the pick - rebuild completely in 2 years Trading Manning I don't believe is possible. If they pay him the signing bonus, I believe most of it counts against our salary cap, which would not help us at all. If we pay him, he stays and plays. Irsay takes Luck to sit behind Manning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
420allstars 13 Posted January 18, 2012 Caldwell was a disaster! its like he was just a face to speak to the media and let peyton run the team. problem being when peyton wasnt there the team was running itself.. what the colts need is a hard nosed defensive minded coach to come in a clean up this mess, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted January 18, 2012 Caldwell was a disaster! its like he was just a face to speak to the media and let peyton run the team. problem being when peyton wasnt there the team was running itself.. what the colts need is a hard nosed defensive minded coach to come in a clean up this mess, If they can actually get a good DC, then the HC could be more offensive minded. It just depends on the DC. Now, if they don't get a strong person for it, I agree, a defensive minded HC would make a lot more sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,741 Posted January 19, 2012 If they can actually get a good DC, then the HC could be more offensive minded. It just depends on the DC. Now, if they don't get a strong person for it, I agree, a defensive minded HC would make a lot more sense. They tried that when they hired dungee. Their defense still sucked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted January 19, 2012 Manning's next. Not going to happen. If Manning plays, he is a Colt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted January 19, 2012 They tried that when they hired dungee. Their defense still sucked. I was excited when we got Dungy, but was glad to see him go. After his son's death, he should have retired. He was clearly not the same coach/man after that and it showed and I think he cost us another SB because of it. Maybe they can get Bill cowher. Maybe he is tired of waiting for the Carolina gig to open up. I know, I know, wishful thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted January 19, 2012 I was excited when we got Dungy, but was glad to see him go. After his son's death, he should have retired. He was clearly not the same coach/man after that and it showed and I think he cost us another SB because of it. Maybe they can get Bill cowher. Maybe he is tired of waiting for the Carolina gig to open up. I know, I know, wishful thinking. They won the Superbowl 1 year after his son died and he only coached 2 more years after he won so what the hell are you talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted January 19, 2012 I was excited when we got Dungy, but was glad to see him go. After his son's death, he should have retired. He was clearly not the same coach/man after that and it showed and I think he cost us another SB because of it. Maybe they can get Bill cowher. Maybe he is tired of waiting for the Carolina gig to open up. I know, I know, wishful thinking. I used to want Cowher, but he has done nothing but bash the Colts. Granted, a lot of his losses came from Manning when playing us, but he has never said anything good. Honestly, I want a person that will come in liking what we have to work with and doing something with it. And I assumed gocolts was talking about that year his son died, we had a team that should have went to the SB. But I also agreed, it changed him. I completely understand why it changed him, but his heart just wasn't there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 67 Posted January 19, 2012 They won the Superbowl 1 year after his son died and he only coached 2 more years after he won so what the hell are you talking about? LMAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted January 19, 2012 I used to want Cowher, but he has done nothing but bash the Colts. Granted, a lot of his losses came from Manning when playing us, but he has never said anything good. Honestly, I want a person that will come in liking what we have to work with and doing something with it. And I assumed gocolts was talking about that year his son died, we had a team that should have went to the SB. But I also agreed, it changed him. I completely understand why it changed him, but his heart just wasn't there. His son died like week 16 of that season. So Dungy should have retired then? You would have had Caldwell as coach then and never have won a Superbowl. Don't deny losing his son must have changed him but since Dungy went 12-4 and won the Superbowl, 12-4 and 13-3 after his son's death, I don't see where that reflects how it hurt the Colts. Both before and after Dungy's kid died the Colts failed miserably in the playoffs. I just don't see where that had anything to do with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted January 19, 2012 His son died like week 16 of that season. So Dungy should have retired then? You would have had Caldwell as coach then and never have won a Superbowl. Don't deny losing his son must have changed him but since Dungy went 12-4 and won the Superbowl, 12-4 and 13-3 after his son's death, I don't see where that reflects how it hurt the Colts. Both before and after Dungy's kid died the Colts failed miserably in the playoffs. I just don't see where that had anything to do with it. Lose a son and see how it affects not only your life but the others around you. But that is ok, I guess you are all knowing and we should just all respect that? Have a good day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted January 19, 2012 Lose a son and see how it affects not only your life but the others around you. But that is ok, I guess you are all knowing and we should just all respect that? Have a good day. So let me get this straight.......you guys actually blame Dungy for not winning enough Superbowls because his son died........... but now I'm the bad guy for saying the facts don't support it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted January 19, 2012 So let me get this straight.......you guys actually blame Dungy for not winning enough Superbowls because his son died........... but now I'm the bad guy for saying the facts don't support it? No, you are perfect and know everything. I am conceeding that to you, to stroke your ego that you must need stroked. It is ok. You are RIGHT. I conceed it! You are the man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted January 19, 2012 No, you are perfect and know everything. I am conceeding that to you, to stroke your ego that you must need stroked. It is ok. You are RIGHT. I conceed it! You are the man. DUMB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted January 20, 2012 And I assumed gocolts was talking about that year his son died, we had a team that should have went to the SB. But I also agreed, it changed him. I completely understand why it changed him, but his heart just wasn't there. :thumbsup: Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted January 20, 2012 His son died like week 16 of that season. So Dungy should have retired then? You would have had Caldwell as coach then and never have won a Superbowl. Don't deny losing his son must have changed him but since Dungy went 12-4 and won the Superbowl, 12-4 and 13-3 after his son's death, I don't see where that reflects how it hurt the Colts. Both before and after Dungy's kid died the Colts failed miserably in the playoffs. I just don't see where that had anything to do with it. I watched every game. Most every week there was something questionable that made think he is not the same man since his son died, and I can see why. Who would be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites