This economy is so bad

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 hour ago, Horseman said:

Because you have to go back and include the zero growth year during 2020 to cherry pick that data.

To answer their question it's an issue because prices have outpaced wages under the Biden administration. A lot.  It's not been good in 2021 or 2022 or 2023 or 2024.  Like it or not he wasn't president in 2020 or 2019.

For sure some lemmings will see this and say "that seems good". Der.  But it's clearly picking the only data set that works.  Go back to the start of the Biden administration and it's not good.  

The reason they’re going back to 2019 is because Covid screwed up all the stats.

Here is median real wages (wages adjusted for inflation): 

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q

They actually peaked in May 2020.  But it’s misleading because the spike exactly correlates with when unemployment spiked:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE/

And we know lower paid workers were hit hardest by unemployment at the start of the pandemic, so the “median” actually increased.

So basically you have to compare to pre-covid for a more accurate comparison.  And real wages were exactly the same in Q4 2021 as they were in Q4 2019, and have mostly gone up since.  They did go up faster under Trump however.  So Trump’s economy was better which is the main reason I’m voting for him, but to the subject of the thread, Biden’s economy is not nearly as bad as many are making it out to be.

[TimHauck 2,931]

45 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Dow Jones is 49 to 52 in favor of Joe. 

I know you dummies like to repeat what Trump tells you but the economy is doing well.

There was that whole pandemic issue. When fatfock left office the place was a shetshow. Biden patched it all up. A thank you would be nice.

Place your dumbass tweet right here.

The Trump vaccine that the idiots here think is killing everyone was the biggest factor in getting the economy going again.

[Horseman 2,493]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Dow Jones is 49 to 52 in favor of Joe. 

I know you dummies like to repeat what Trump tells you but the economy is doing well.

There was that whole pandemic issue. When fatfock left office the place was a shetshow. Biden patched it all up. A thank you would be nice.

Place your dumbass tweet right here.

Economy is great for me. I don’t even mind inflation because that means I get to lend money at a high interest rates. That more than offsets the price of eggs for me. I love it. 
 

Sucks for poor people. But I don’t care. 

[Horseman 2,493]

28 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The reason they’re going back to 2019 is because Covid screwed up all the stats.

Blah blah blah  

That’s what I said dummy. And why you DON’T include it. If it’s political you start on Biden’s first day on the job not some hit piece that uses years from Trump. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

8 minutes ago, Horseman said:

 

Sucks for poor people. But I don’t care. 

Poor people are seeing wage growth too.

 

[Horseman 2,493]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Poor people are seeing wage growth too.

 

It’s like you can’t even read.  

[TimHauck 2,931]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

That’s what I said dummy. And why you DON’T include it. If it’s political you start on Biden’s first day on the job not some hit piece that uses years from Trump. 

Lol what a dumb post.  You do realize “Biden’s first day on the job” was literally the peak of covid deaths of the entire pandemic?

[thegeneral 3,269]

6 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Economy is great for me. I don’t even mind inflation because that means I get to lend money at a high interest rates. That more than offsets the price of eggs for me. I love it. 
 

Sucks for poor people. But I don’t care. 

I have been enjoying. All my friends and family doing well.

Economy isn’t bad, it’s quite good. A large number of people didn’t work for about a year. We floated them. There were going to be issues. 

To claim this is the worst economy is just dumb.

[Horseman 2,493]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Lol what a dumb post.  You do realize “Biden’s first day on the job” was literally the peak of covid deaths of the entire pandemic?

So go back and include the Trump deaths too!  Der.      
 

Just stop. I’m not interested in educating you on economics. You’re not up to it.  I’m a self made multi millionaire.  You live off welfare.  

[Horseman 2,493]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

To claim this is the worst economy is just dumb.

Link to me ever saying that or STFU.  

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

So go back and include the Trump deaths too!  Der.      
 

Trump deaths?  Wtf are you talking about?

My point is the Covid pandemic screwed up the stats.  It spanned parts of both the Trump and Biden terms.  So comparing economic stats to anything during the pandemic doesn’t really make sense.  But comparing now (when covid is mostly an afterthought) to before it started does make sense.  It’s not cherry picking, it’s comparing apples to apples.

[thegeneral 3,269]

7 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Link to me ever saying that or STFU.  

It’s what your dumbass orange king says every waking minute

[Horseman 2,493]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

It’s what your dumbass orange king says every waking minute

He doesn’t speak for me. HTH. 
 

Boy it really is thick in here with you and metal helmet both   

 

 

[thegeneral 3,269]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Trump deaths?  Wtf are you talking about?

My point is the Covid pandemic screwed up the stats.  It spanned parts of both the Trump and Biden terms.  So comparing economic stats to anything during the pandemic doesn’t really make sense.  But comparing now (when covid is mostly an afterthought) to before it started does make sense.  It’s not cherry picking, it’s comparing apples to apples.

Trump fans like to count everything up to Covid…then it all stops counting…but then it begins again as soon as Biden takes over.

[thegeneral 3,269]

Just now, Horseman said:

He doesn’t speak for me. HTH. 
 

Boy it really is thick in here with you and metal helmet both   

 

 

I didn’t say you said this dope. I don’t know if you did and don’t really give a shet if you did or didn’t. 

[TrailGuy 554]

2 hours ago, Horseman said:

Because you have to go back and include the zero growth year during 2020 to cherry pick that data.

To answer their question it's an issue because prices have outpaced wages under the Biden administration. A lot.  It's not been good in 2021 or 2022 or 2023 or 2024.  Like it or not he wasn't president in 2020 or 2019.

For sure some lemmings will see this and say "that seems good". Der.  But it's clearly picking the only data set that works.  Go back to the start of the Biden administration and it's not good.  

You don't understand.  You have more buying power now than before COVID.  More buying power now than during the so called greatest economy in the history of the world. Does that make sense to you?

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Trump fans like to count everything up to Covid…then it all stops counting…but then it begins again as soon as Biden takes over.

Yup.  But Harris has also repeatedly blamed Trump for the unemployment caused by Covid which is equally dumb.

[Horseman 2,493]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

I didn’t say you said this dope. I don’t know if you did and don’t really give a shet if you did or didn’t. 

This is the post you responded to. 

13 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Link to ME ever saying that or STFU.  

Whats wrong with you. Drunk on wine coolers or something?  

[thegeneral 3,269]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Yup.  But Harris has also repeatedly blamed Trump for the unemployment caused by Covid which is equally dumb.

What anyone running against Trump on this topic should just leave it at when we took the keys the place was wrecked. We got it fixed up. Our economy is the best in the world, as it should be.

[Horseman 2,493]

12 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

You don't understand.  You have more buying power now than before COVID.  More buying power now than during the so called greatest economy in the history of the world. Does that make sense to you?

Of course it does, and what you said is true. 

But my buying power increased more under Trump than it did under Biden. That’s just fact.  

If youre just arbitrarily making a statement in reference to 2019 and not making a political point. Fine.

 But your linked article is wondering why inflation is an issue with people. If that their point go back to the beginning of Bidens  term for the numbers. That’s answers their question.  

[thegeneral 3,269]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

This is the post you responded to. 

Whats wrong with you. Drunk on wine coolers or something?  

Look dumbass. I’m watching the game, I’m grilling, this isn’t my life’s work.

I just explained what I meant. If you don’t understand now that’s your problem

[Horseman 2,493]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Look dumbass. I’m watching the game, I’m grilling, this isn’t my life’s work.

Noted. Your knee jerk posts are basically meaningless. Got it.  

[TimHauck 2,931]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

But my buying power increased more under Trump than it did under Biden. That’s just fact.  

I specifically agreed with this statement earlier and you claimed you “didn’t want to educate me on economics.”

[Horseman 2,493]

Just now, TimHauck said:

I specifically agreed with this statement earlier and you claimed you “didn’t want to educate me on economics.”

Still don’t. 

[thegeneral 3,269]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Noted. Your knee jerk posts are basically meaningless. Got it.  

I’m sorry you can’t follow along and need it all spoon fed to you

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Still don’t. 

Says the guy that doesn’t think January 2021 was part of the Covid pandemic

[TrailGuy 554]

13 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Of course it does, and what you said is true. 

But my buying power increased more under Trump than it did under Biden. That’s just fact.  

If youre just arbitrarily making a statement in reference to 2019 and not making a political point. Fine.  

It's not arbitrary.  See people say that under Biden you can't afford anything anymore.  But the truth is you can afford more now than under trump.

[Horseman 2,493]

2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

It's not arbitrary.  See people say that under Biden you can't afford anything anymore.  But the truth is you can afford more now than under trump.

That equivocally not true. You had to go back to 2019, during the Trump years to get numbers that give you more buying power. It doesn’t work  just “under Biden”.  

[TrailGuy 554]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

That equivocally not true. You had to go back to 2019, during the Trump years to get numbers that give you more buying power. It doesn’t work  just “under Biden”.  

You simply don't understand.  I didn't have to back to 2019.  I chose to go back to 2019 to compare buying power now vs then.  2024 is better.  Facts not feels.

[TimHauck 2,931]

58 minutes ago, Horseman said:

That’s what I said dummy. And why you DON’T include it. If it’s political you start on Biden’s first day on the job not some hit piece that uses years from Trump. 

Horseman:  don’t include the covid pandemic in the stats

also Horseman:  start in January 2021

lololol

 

 

[Horseman 2,493]

5 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

You simply don't understand.  I didn't have to back to 2019.  I chose to go back to 2019 to compare buying power now vs then.  2024 is better.  Facts not feels.

You have to. “Under Biden”, your words, doesn’t work.  

Buying power increased more under Trump than Biden. Buying power isn’t even positive under Biden. FACTS. 

[TrailGuy 554]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You have to. “Under Biden”, your words, doesn’t work.  

Buying power increased more under Trump than Biden. Buying power isn’t even positive under Biden. FACTS. 

Not the argument...but...

1) show your work.

2) buying power now is greater than during the greatest economy in the world final year. Fact.  I shared my work.  You can't deny.

[Horseman 2,493]

Just now, TrailGuy said:

Not the argument...but...

1) show your work.

2) buying power now is greater than during the greatest economy in the world final year. Fact.  I shared my work.  You can't deny.

I could explain it to you again, but, I can’t make you understand it. That’s on you. I don’t think you’re up for it.  

1) No math required, it’s a fairly simple concept. 
2) It is, including 2 years of the greatest economy in the world.*

* There have been greater economies, those are your words.  

[Strike 5,601]

7 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Not the argument...but...

1) show your work.

2) buying power now is greater than during the greatest economy in the world final year. Fact.  I shared my work.  You can't deny.

Are you talking about the MarketWatch article you posted earlier?   If so, it doesn't not show what you're asserting here.  it specifically focused ONLY on groceries.  Groceries are only one part of a person's budget. 

[TrailGuy 554]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

Are you talking about the MarketWatch article you posted earlier?   If so, it doesn't not show what you're asserting here.  it specifically focused ONLY on groceries.  Groceries are only one part of a person's budget. 

Yes we're talking about groceries.

[TimHauck 2,931]

9 minutes ago, Strike said:

Are you talking about the MarketWatch article you posted earlier?   If so, it doesn't not show what you're asserting here.  it specifically focused ONLY on groceries.  Groceries are only one part of a person's budget. 

I wasn’t.  I was talking about wages adjusted for inflation. 

[Strike 5,601]

13 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Yes we're talking about groceries.

Then don't say buying power. 

[Strike 5,601]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I wasn’t.  I was talking about wages adjusted for inflation. 

Did I quote you?

[Horseman 2,493]

JFC.

[TimHauck 2,931]

8 hours ago, Strike said:

Did I quote you?

Never said you did.  Idiot Horseman who thinks January 2021 wasn’t part of the Covid pandemic also used the phrase “buying power,” why did you only try to gotcha Trailguy?