seafoam1 3,618 Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Your mistake is you think Trump is conservative. Call him whatever you want. He's delivering on what I voted for.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 898 Posted 2 hours ago 40 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Yes, Pookie to combat this idea that he somehow was a conservative that you guys are trying to claim. I believe the OP was that Trump is hyper-obsessed with the Nobel Peace Prize, then someone compared that to an average politics forum commenter. The difference is one affects the global economy & carries risks right up to nuclear war & the other just annoys overly emotional maga supporters. Case in point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,618 Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I believe the point was that Trump is hyper-obsessed with the Nobel Peace Prize, then someone compared that to an average politics forum commenter. The difference is one affects the global economy & carries risks right up to nuclear war & the other just annoys overly emotional maga supporters. Case in point. So you think he's going to start a nuclear war. Now what are you gonna do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 898 Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: So you think he's going to start a nuclear war. Now what are you gonna do? =>”up to”<= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,987 Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I believe the OP was that Trump is hyper-obsessed with the Nobel Peace Prize, then someone compared that to an average politics forum commenter. The difference is one affects the global economy & carries risks right up to nuclear war & the other just annoys overly emotional maga supporters. Case in point. I know this is hard to believe but after 67 pages the topic moves around. I know that shocking but it happens. So you liberals have decided he’s super obsessed about this thing that he already now has and then related that obsession to people talking on a message board to get to some veil accusation that maybe he’s not taking things seriously enough? I’m really trying to think that liberals are just good people we disagree with, but some of you are so painfully stupid it makes that very difficult Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,618 Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: =>”up to”<= =>"gonna do""<= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 898 Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: I know this is hard to believe but after 67 pages the topic moves around. I know that shocking but it happens. So you liberals have decided he’s super obsessed about this thing that he already now has and then related that obsession to people talking on a message board to get to some veil accusation that maybe he’s not taking things seriously enough? I’m really trying to think that liberals are just good people we disagree with, but some of you were so painfully stupid it makes that very difficult Before we carry on - why wouldn’t a conservative think he’s obsessed here? We have his emotional midnight letter to Norway, the vague derivation of this whole crackpot idea, & his own commentary on it. Meanwhile there’s nothing conservative about breaking a treaty, rocking global markets, threats to friends or encouraging China & Russia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,987 Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Before we carry on - why wouldn’t a conservative think he’s obsessed here? We have his emotional midnight letter to Norway, the vague derivation of this whole crackpot idea, & his own commentary on it. Meanwhile there’s nothing conservative about breaking a treaty, rocking global markets, threats to friends or encouraging China & Russia. 1. Russia and China were both far more powerful under Biden. We literally have to redraw maps. 2. I’m OK with any president breaking a treaty, deal, relationship if it means that relationship is purely one-sided, either financially, military or trade. Not one deal should ever not favor us. 3.”Rocked global markets” is there literally one market not doing well? Ours is doing well and I could argue that the global ones are doing even better. 4. The Nobel prize is sort of like the Epstein list. You care about it but for completely opposite reasons. You don’t really care you just hope he’s on one list and not on the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,820 Posted 1 hour ago 35 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: JFC. Do you wanna go down that path? I’m fine with it. It’ll make liberals look even more ridiculous. But nice deflect There is nothing conservative about higher taxes, government taking ownership in private business, removal of checks and balances, loss of personal freedoms and liberties and alienating our global allies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 898 Posted 1 hour ago 20 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: 1. Russia and China were both far more powerful under Biden. We literally have to redraw maps. 2. I’m OK with any president breaking a treaty, deal, relationship if it means that relationship is purely one-sided, either financially, military or trade. Not one deal should ever not favor us. 3.”Rocked global markets” is there literally one market not doing well? Ours is doing well and I could argue that the global ones are doing even better. 4. The Nobel prize is sort of like the Epstein list. You care about it but for completely opposite reasons. You don’t really care you just hope he’s on one list and not on the other. Thank you. Has it occurred to you that perhaps you are not conservative? There are other ideologies besides conservative & liberal btw. For instance Xi is a communist & he could agree with point 2 especially. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,987 Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Thank you. Has it occurred to you that perhaps you are not conservative? There are other ideologies besides conservative & liberal btw. For instance Xi is a communist & he could agree with point 2 especially. We all get lost in different threads and topics, but so I’m not holding this against you by any means but I’ve always said I vote Republican, but I am anti-gun anti-religion, pro gay marriage. Be nice if we had either one of these dip shiit sides to say you know what they’ve got a good idea let’s do that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,282 Posted 58 minutes ago 1 hour ago, cyclone24 said: I know this is hard to believe but after 67 pages the topic moves around. I know that shocking but it happens. So you liberals have decided he’s super obsessed about this thing that he already now has and then related that obsession to people talking on a message board to get to some veil accusation that maybe he’s not taking things seriously enough? I’m really trying to think that liberals are just good people we disagree with, but some of you are so painfully stupid it makes that very difficult 6-7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,282 Posted 56 minutes ago 47 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Thank you. Has it occurred to you that perhaps you are not conservative? There are other ideologies besides conservative & liberal btw. For instance Xi is a communist & he could agree with point 2 especially. Conservatives have moved much closer to the middle than liberals. Liberals went further left. This is not up for debate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,987 Posted 48 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: 6-7 You sonofabitch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 898 Posted 32 minutes ago 24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Conservatives have moved much closer to the middle than liberals. Liberals went further left. This is not up for debate That’s partisan alignment, not ideology. Conservatism as ideology stands for preservation of institutions, liberalism stands for societal progress, both agree that treaties, norms & laws must be adhered to. It’s nationalists, socialists & other ideologies (communist, Islamist, etc) which argue that such laws & norms must be overturned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites