Mike FF Today 721 Posted April 21, 2024 Franklin today, Xavier Worthy coming tomorrow... WR Troy Franklin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 474 Posted April 21, 2024 Looks like a potential slot/PPR monster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted April 21, 2024 No thanks "Nine drops and a 10 percent drop rate in 2023 are among the highest marks at receiver in this draft class; focus drops and hand positioning were the cause of several of them, however". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted April 21, 2024 3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: No thanks "Nine drops and a 10 percent drop rate in 2023 are among the highest marks at receiver in this draft class; focus drops and hand positioning were the cause of several of them, however". yeah, but if playing out of the slot, you are also taking a lot more hits at the same time as or right after making your catch. So the drop rate for a slot guy will always be higher than your outside WR. Still.... not a stat you like to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted April 22, 2024 10 hours ago, Ray_T said: yeah, but if playing out of the slot, you are also taking a lot more hits at the same time as or right after making your catch. So the drop rate for a slot guy will always be higher My point exactly. And that's in College, he'll get killed in the pro game. A 10 percent drop rate is God Awful, it doesn't get much worse. If that's not a red flag for a WR then nothing is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 559 Posted April 22, 2024 I'm gonna agree with M O. Franklin's probably the highest projected wr pick. That I want no part of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted April 22, 2024 1 hour ago, Kopy said: I'm gonna agree with M O. Franklin's probably the highest projected wr pick. That I want no part of. the scouting report suggests focus drops and hand positioning were the cause of several of the drops focus is a hard thing to coach, but hand positioning is something that is coachable for sure. so it may not be as bad as advertised. that said, assuming this remains an issue hes a good field stretching #4 WR (floor). Hes still smallish, so there will always be physical issues with DB's bullying him and knocking him off his route. likely his max upside is that of a #2 WR. While he does have the potential to be a #1 WR I think the odds of him getting that far is slim given the deficiencies we already know. if he can fix the hands issue, that likely makes him a WR3 or better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted April 22, 2024 3 hours ago, Ray_T said: focus is a hard thing to coach, but hand positioning is something that is coachable for sure. so it may not be as bad as advertised. Agree, but why take the risk when this class is loaded with much better prospects who offer very similar or better production? I would take anyone in that tier over Franklin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted April 22, 2024 32 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Agree, but why take the risk when this class is loaded with much better prospects who offer very similar or better production? I would take anyone in that tier over Franklin. well, hes not a first round pick. but maybe round 2. intitially I didnt like the drops but then I looked at a couple and specifically the one noted at 0:00 of his tape. that was listed as an example of bad hands but I think that ball was overthrown. I'm not 100% sure it was catchable. I note that the video quality on some of this tape wasnt great but I dont see enough on this play to blame his hands. but at the same time you look at a guy like Marvin Harrison who has a superb catch radius this kid is definitely inferior. but a couple of his so called drops were high balls. the one looked uncatchable, the other was high also but might have been catchable if his technique was a little better. even so he was jumping to get at that ball. I dont necessarily blame him for dropping it. one was an over the shoulder catch, and I think that was more a tracking issue than a hands issue (though could be both) and there are a couple that he just plain dropped. but the tape wasnt as bad as I thought. this guy likely makes a good WR2 but has some WR1 potential. hes likely a 2nd round pick. maybe third? but not round 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted April 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Ray_T said: well, hes not a first round pick. I wouldn't rule it out. It only takes 1 team to fall in love with the next Jalen Reagor . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted April 22, 2024 22 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: I wouldn't rule it out. It only takes 1 team to fall in love with the next Jalen Reagor . possibly. personally I think pro level coaching can fix some of his route running and resolve at least a portion of his drops. there are a couple where I think he just lost focus plain and simple. I'm not sure if that can be fixed with coaching but plenty of good WRs at the pro level will, on occasion have drops like this. but given the amount of depth there is at the position I'd be surprised if this kid went on day 1 of the draft. I think hes likely a day 2 pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaChup 228 Posted April 25, 2024 He'll be ass in the pros. Taxi squad at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted April 25, 2024 Cadaverous Toney type drops Share this post Link to post Share on other sites