Elon musk shuts down govt

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7 minutes ago, Strike said:

Trump and Elon have no authority.  The Dems killed this spending bill. 

Have you not read the actual news coverage of this?

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5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Well I guess we can put the "you don't care about the disaster relief" narrative to rest.  This bill had it.  Just goes to show the Dems don't care about disater relief.  I am waiting patiently for @The Real timschochet to denounce the Dems for voting against disaster relief.  The GOP cares about disaster relief.  You don't.  Laughing that disaster relief failed.  Such a clown.

I’m not laughing about it. 
 

The Democrats opposed it because they oppose extending the debt ceiling at this time. If they do that it makes it easier for Trump to get his new tax cut next year and the Democrats don’t want that to happen. 

I understand that reasoning but personally I would have voted for it anyhow because of the disaster aid. So no I’m not going to denounce the Democrats, but I don’t agree with them. 

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8 minutes ago, Strike said:

The Dems killed this spending bill. 

38 Republicans voted against. Republicans have the majority. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

I’m not laughing about it. 
 

The Democrats opposed it because they oppose extending the debt ceiling at this time. If they do that it makes it easier for Trump to get his new tax cut next year and the Democrats don’t want that to happen. 

I understand that reasoning but personally I would have voted for it anyhow because of the disaster aid. So no I’m not going to denounce the Democrats, but I don’t agree with them. 

Then you shouldn't have denounced Trump/Elon/Vivek/GOP for opposing last night's bill.  They opposed all the pork in the bill.  Be consistent.  If you understand why the Dems opposes this simply extension of the status quo then you should understand why the GOP opposed the bill last night.  That's why you're a hack.  Your bias is clear and you look for any reason to denounce Trump/GOP and any reason to excuse the same behavior from the Dems.

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The fact that this vote failed is more evidence of the ineptness of the GOP run House. Say what you want about Pelosi but she never allowed a bill to be voted on unless she knew it would pass. She counted the votes beforehand and if it was likely to fail she tabled the bill. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

38 Republicans voted against. Republicans have the majority. 

How many Dems voted against it, and what percentage of each party voted for/against?

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4 minutes ago, Death said:

Have you not read the actual news coverage of this?

Are you upset that the Commanders aren't getting their stadium built with taxpayers money?  

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

The fact that this vote failed is more evidence of the ineptness of the GOP run House. Say what you want about Pelosi but she never allowed a bill to be voted on unless she knew it would pass. She counted the votes beforehand and if it was likely to fail she tabled the bill. 

Wrong.  The GOP KNEW this would fail, as I posted earlier.   It just shows that the Dems don't care about the "disaster relief" that you used to denounce Elon/Trump/GOP all day.  It was never about that.  Now the GOP gets to tout how the Dems voted against disaster relief.  This was an actual CR as opposed to the pork laden bill that was proposed last night.  It SHOULD have passed. 

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

Then you shouldn't have denounced Trump/Elon/Vivek/GOP for opposing last night's bill.  They opposed all the pork in the bill.  Be consistent.  If you understand why the Dems opposes this simply extension of the status quo then you should understand why the GOP opposed the bill last night.  That's why you're a hack.  Your bias is clear and you look for any reason to denounce Trump/GOP and any reason to excuse the same behavior from the Dems.

I didn’t exactly denounce Trump. I mocked him for working with Johnson the whole time and then deciding to kill the bill at the last second, not because of any principle but because Elon was unhappy. And now surrendering a day later and ultimately surrendering even more in a few days when Republicans cave and go back to the original deal which is now inevitable. Trump is an inept clown IMO. 

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Look maga lovers…embrace that the government is perhaps getting shutdown tomorrow. It’s what you voted for.

The shtick that Elon / Trump didn’t kill the bill that was ready to pass is good stuff

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

I didn’t exactly denounce Trump. I mocked him for working with Johnson the whole time and then deciding to kill the bill at the last second, not because of any principle but because Elon was unhappy. And now surrendering a day later and ultimately surrendering even more in a few days when Republicans cave and go back to the original deal which is now inevitable. Trump is an inept clown IMO. 

As @supermike80 posted earlier, you show on a daily basis how little you understand.  I notice you haven't posted in the Fani Willis thread today after your prediction that she'd be taking Trump to trial was proven wrong.  As usual. 

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WINNING  

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1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Look maga lovers…embrace that the government is perhaps getting shutdown tomorrow. It’s what you voted for

 

I am fine with the government shutting down.  Won't change my life much, if at all.  How will it change yours?

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1869865296376303763

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4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Are you upset that the Commanders aren't getting their stadium built with taxpayers money?  

The Point <=================================|================================> You are here.

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

I am fine with the government shutting down.  Won't change my life much, if at all.  How will it change yours?

Who knows? If it occurs I just assume it will end up costing more down the line when they eventually come to some agreement. 

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4 minutes ago, Strike said:

I am fine with the government shutting down.  Won't change my life much, if at all.  How will it change yours?

Yeah, as long as it doesn't affect your life ... 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-december-2024-social-security-tsa-donald-trump-what-to-know/

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Just now, thegeneral said:

Who knows? If it occurs I just assume it will end up costing more down the line when they eventually come to some agreement. 

Calm your tittties, Government Shutdowns are nothing new and somehow we survived. 

You're gonna live, it's ok  

[thegeneral 3,209]

14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

38 Republicans voted against. Republicans have the majority. 

Was this on the latest “clean bill”?

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1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Calm your tittties, Government Shutdowns are nothing new and somehow we survived. 

You're gonna live, it's ok  

Exactly.  We've had them before.  And without consequences these idiots, and I mean on both sides, will just keep doing the same sh*t every time.

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8 minutes ago, Strike said:

As @supermike80 posted earlier, you show on a daily basis how little you understand.  I notice you haven't posted in the Fani Willis thread today after your prediction that she'd be taking Trump to trial was proven wrong.  As usual. 

Because I don’t care about Fani Willis. I care about that case. Trump deserves to be prosecuted, and put in jail, for what he said on that phone call. It’s too bad that it’s now delayed for reasons that have nothing to do with what Trump did. Hopefully someday he’ll face the music. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Because I don’t care about Fani Willis. I care about that case. Trump deserves to be prosecuted, and put in jail, for what he said on that phone call. It’s too bad that it’s now delayed for reasons that have nothing to do with what Trump did. Hopefully someday he’ll face the music. 

It's not delayed.  It's dead.   Show us again how clueless you are

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Headed on a plane. Catch you guys after the new year! Happy holidays to all. 

[thegeneral 3,209]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Calm your tittties, Government Shutdowns are nothing new and somehow we survived. 

You're gonna live, it's ok  

I’m kind of enjoying the show TBH. That Congress goes through this every year or so isn’t the best however.

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2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Exactly.  We've had them before.  And without consequences these idiots, and I mean on both sides, will just keep doing the same sh*t every time.

There you go. This was what Trump wanted when he, and Elon, scuttled the deal. I knew we’d get there!

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I’m kind of enjoying the show TBH. That Congress goes through this every year or so isn’t the best however.

How did the Commanders new stadium sneak into that bill?? Who's idea was that? 

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Just now, thegeneral said:

There you go. This was what Trump wanted when he, and Elon, scuttled the deal. I knew we’d get there!

No.  The GOP offered a viable CR.  I mean, this wasn't supposed to be a budget bill.  It was a 3 month budget extension to avoid shutting the government down.  And, other than the debt ceiling extension and things everyone wanted like disaster relief, that's all this had in it.   Considering how many times the Dems have raised the debt limit that shouldn't be a deal breaker.  The only reason they voted against it is that it didn't include all their pork.  If they cared about keeping government open they would have voted for it. 

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2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

How did the Commanders new stadium sneak into that bill?? Who's idea was that? 

Not sure what you are referring to,  but I’d guess something like this is usually some rich fock framing it as a jobs thing or good for business and generating taxes. 

Ask Elon he knows all about government shilling for business!

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6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

There you go. This was what Trump wanted when he, and Elon, scuttled the deal. I knew we’d get there!

Poor guy. TDS must really hurt. 

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Just now, thegeneral said:

Not sure what you are referring to,  but I’d guess something like this is usually some rich fock framing it as a jobs thing or good for business and generating taxes. 

Ask Elon he knows all about government shilling for business!

Regardless, it was a Republican bill that had bipartisan support, and the world's richest person torpedoed it.

This is not how America is supposed to work. 

This country is headed to the rocks.

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3 minutes ago, Strike said:

No.  The GOP offered a viable CR.  I mean, this wasn't supposed to be a budget bill.  It was a 3 month budget extension to avoid shutting the government down.  And, other than the debt ceiling extension and things everyone wanted like disaster relief, that's all this had in it.   Considering how many times the Dems have raised the debt limit that shouldn't be a deal breaker.  The only reason they voted against it is that it didn't include all their pork.  If they cared about keeping government open they would have voted for it. 

38 republicans voted against this “clean bill” along with all the Dems. No clue why but that’s what happens when it’s all last minute.

The original spending bill was shitcanned by Don.

 

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1 minute ago, Death said:

Regardless, it was a Republican bill that had bipartisan support, and the world's richest person torpedoed it.

This is not how America is supposed to work. 

This country is headed to the rocks.

You know how else it's not supposed to work?  Congress springing a 1500 page "Continuing Resolution" late in the day with no time for the people voting on it to read it or debate it. 

On another note, private citizens are allowed to voice their opinions.   That's called the 1st amendment.  It's unfortunate for you that the people voting on this POS bill give credence to certain opinions but unless your stance is private citizens can't have an opinion on a POS bill, that's actually exactly how it's supposed to work.   Am I not allowed to call my congressman any more to try to influence them?  

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3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

38 republicans voted against this “clean bill” along with all the Dems. No clue why but that’s what happens when it’s all last minute.

The original spending bill was shitcanned by Don.

 

Tim said the same thing.  Here's what I asked him.  Maybe you'll actually answer me since he was too chicken sh*t to do so:

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How many Dems voted against it, and what percentage of each party voted for/against?

 

And did you really bring up the bill being last minute?  WTF was the bill they rolled out last night?????? 

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8 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Poor guy. TDS must really hurt. 

Fart noises

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5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Not sure what you are referring to,  but I’d guess something like this is usually some rich fock framing it as a jobs thing or good for business and generating taxes. 

Ask Elon he knows all about government shilling for business!

Don't be a hippie. Elon Musk provides thousands of good paying jobs for AMERICAN citizens. A stadium is a friggin stadium 

I'd rather give my money to an Elon Musk 

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Just now, Strike said:

Tim said the same thing.  Here's what I asked him.  Maybe you'll actually answer me since he was too chicken sh*t to do so:

 

And did you really bring up the bill being last minute?  WTF was the bill they rolled out last night?????? 

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/12/19/congress/government-shutdown-house-vote-00195479

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44 minutes ago, Strike said:

Well I guess we can put the "you don't care about the disaster relief" narrative to rest.  This bill had it.  Just goes to show the Dems don't care about disater relief.  I am waiting patiently for @The Real timschochet to denounce the Dems for voting against disaster relief.  The GOP cares about disaster relief.  You don't.  Laughing that disaster relief failed.  Such a clown.

You're such a child

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1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/12/19/congress/government-shutdown-house-vote-00195479

You didn't answer any of my questions.  Not surprised.

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1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

You're such a child

Banned alias says what?

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46 minutes ago, Strike said:

Trump and Elon have no authority.  The Dems killed this spending bill. 

Actually the Republicans did since they have the majority.  30 Republicans voted against it.