Joe Biden pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and the Jan. 6 committee

[Hardcore troubadour 15,483]

Just now, Death said:

Do you support the pardons of those convicted and clearly shown on video assaulting cops Jan. 6?

Nope

[TimHauck 2,901]

12 hours ago, jerryskids said:

That would be better for the country, but part of me wants Trump to pardon his entire extended family and all of his friends and staff for all time for anything, and watch the Lefties go apoplectic explaining how it's different$#@!

If he does this will all the righties here saying these pardons are an admission of guilt say the same about Trump’s family?

[TimHauck 2,901]

13 hours ago, RLLD said:

But what is the value?

I mean, sure they have the details on the LLC's associated with the Biden family members, and maybe they could get them on tax evasion or something, but meh......

Is this you admitting that there isn’t evidence that “the Biden crime family” is really a thing, even if there were no pardons?

[RLLD 4,239]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Is this you admitting that there isn’t evidence that “the Biden crime family” is really a thing, even if there were no pardons?

No the evidence is there, they have all they need to investigate, as they would with any other such crime....you start with the simple evidence, then you investigate....but will they? nah, and frankly why bother......though.....these people have harvested millions from our adversaries....it would be nice to recover that for the american people....

[TrailGuy 554]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No the evidence is there, they have all they need to investigate, as they would with any other such crime....you start with the simple evidence, then you investigate....but will they? nah, and frankly why bother......though.....these people have harvested millions from our adversaries....it would be nice to recover that for the american people....

They did investigate. They spent years investigating and we had sham impeachment hearings but no charges.  Tell me why there were never any charges boyo.  Say it.

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Is this you admitting that there isn’t evidence that “the Biden crime family” is really a thing, even if there were no pardons?

There's always been evidence. Do you think Biden is going to investigate his own Family??  

Trump is going forth with the investigations of the Briben Crime Family's dealings in Ukraine and Fauci's responsibility for unleashing the deadly virus, then making Billions off of it. 

[TimHauck 2,901]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

There's always been evidence. Do you think Biden is going to investigate his own Family??  

Trump is going forth with the investigations of the Briben Crime Family's dealings in Ukraine and Fauci's responsibility for unleashing the deadly virus, then making Billions off of it. 

But @RLLD says “maybe they could have got them on tax evasion.”  If the claims were true then surely they could pin them with more than that.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,483]

Just think how this looks to the rest of the world. It’s basically confirmation that the first family are crooks that sold out our country and that the rest of them did crimes. This is third world/ communist block stuff.  Biden has left a stain on the map.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

then surely they could pin them with more than that.  

"They" was Joe Biden.  

Joe Biden isn't throwing his own Son in jail and he's certainly not investigating himself. That Hunter Biden lapdog thing was a sham from the get go and everyone knew it. 

Hopefully now we can get some answers regarding the Biden Crime Family. We know what happened with Biden and the DuPont's in Delaware. He's a crook 

[RLLD 4,239]

13 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

They did investigate. They spent years investigating and we had sham impeachment hearings but no charges.  Tell me why there were never any charges boyo.  Say it.

No they didnt, they focused on the imporant element which was to try to determine what was sold to our adversaries by Biden for them to provide those millions to his family through the fake LLC's.   he effectively protected all that money, and his accomplices in his family,  through the pardons.

Still, if they can at least put all the details together for the millions they harvested, and put it on public display, I would welcome that.

They are no longer in power, there is no longer any need to protect them, you really can drop the facade....

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

But @RLLD says “maybe they could have got them on tax evasion.”  If the claims were true then surely they could pin them with more than that.  

Biden's Family and their associates created over 20 shell companies, raked in over $24 million dollars from China and other foreign countries, identified nine members of the Biden family who have participated or benefited from the business schemes, and confirmed that Joe Biden interacted with his family’s business associates at least two dozen times.

[RLLD 4,239]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

But @RLLD says “maybe they could have got them on tax evasion.”  If the claims were true then surely they could pin them with more than that.  

I would hope they could,  But lets see what an improved DOJ decides.  If they decide to move on from it, and focus on other things, then fine I guess.....but at least the DOJ will no longer protect them.

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

18 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

They did investigate. They spent years investigating and we had sham impeachment hearings but no charges.  Tell me why there were never any charges boyo.  Say it.

Biden's Family and their associates created over 20 shell companies, raked in over $24 million dollars from China and other foreign countries, identified nine members of the Biden family who have participated or benefited from the business schemes, and confirmed that Joe Biden interacted with his family’s business associates at least two dozen times.

[TrailGuy 554]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No they didnt, they focused on the imporant element which was to try to determine what was sold to our adversaries by Biden for them to provide those millions to his family through the fake LLC's.   he effectively protected all that money, and his accomplices in his family,  through the pardons.

Still, if they can at least put all the details together for the millions they harvested, and put it on public display, I would welcome that.

They are no longer in power, there is no longer any need to protect them, you really can drop the facade....

If you're going to deny that comer and house oversight committee never happened then I don't know what else to say

[TrailGuy 554]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Biden's Family and their associates created over 20 shell companies, raked in over $24 million dollars from China and other foreign countries, identified nine members of the Biden family who have participated or benefited from the business schemes, and confirmed that Joe Biden interacted with his family’s business associates at least two dozen times.

If this was true then why didn't they bring articles of impeachment against Biden?

[RLLD 4,239]

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

If you're going to deny that comer and house oversight committee never happened then I don't know what else to say

Hmmm, that is an odd way to misrepresent what I posted.  I do wonder what would compel you to continue to defend this man and his family, there is no longer any need to pretend this all away.  You can move on now, focus on pretending other Democrats are not also corrupt.

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

If this was true then why didn't they bring articles of impeachment against Biden?

Democrats BOYO,. Democrats. They aren't going to lock up one of their own. C'mon, you're better than that. 

[TimHauck 2,901]

8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I would hope they could,  But lets see what an improved DOJ decides.  If they decide to move on from it, and focus on other things, then fine I guess.....but at least the DOJ will no longer protect them.

I assume they won’t go after them now with the pardons.  But your post seemed like a hypothetical without the pardons but saying that their best hope was tax evasion

[TrailGuy 554]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Hmmm, that is an odd way to misrepresent what I posted.  I do wonder what would compel you to continue to defend this man and his family, there is no longer any need to pretend this all away.  You can move on now, focus on pretending other Democrats are not also corrupt.

I have this off predilection towards the truth.  But you're right he's not president any more so no need to talk about this or keep the Biden thread at the top of the page.

Let's just focus on trump.  Now about those pardons...

[TrailGuy 554]

3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Democrats BOYO,. Democrats. They aren't going to lock up one of their own. C'mon, you're better than that. 

The house was run by the Republicans boyo.

Here are the facts of why they never impeached him because there was no case boyo.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/13/politics/fact-check-mccarthy-biden-impeachment-claims/index.html

[RLLD 4,239]

Just now, TimHauck said:

I assume they won’t go after them now with the pardons.  But your post seemed like a hypothetical without the pardons but saying that their best hope was tax evasion

I do not see a way to hold them accountable given the pardons.  My hope is that perhaps they can put out as much detail about what transpired that eventually public outcry compels some action, but that is a long shot. It would still be nice to take away their criminal funds, give them to the American people.

[RLLD 4,239]

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

I have this off predilection towards the truth.  But you're right he's not president any more so no need to talk about this or keep the Biden thread at the top of the page.

Let's just focus on trump.  Now about those pardons...

Perhaps your inclination is less about "truth" so much as what your liberal masters have directed you to think.  Maybe.

Since i have already voiced my objections to BOTH sets of pardons, I infer we may have encountered one of those rare situations where your malleable morality temporarily aligns with my position

[Hardcore troubadour 15,483]

Just another case of democrats actually doing all the things they accuse Trump of thinking about doing. Plenty of tape out there of left wing democrats and pundits saying Trump was going to pardon his family and political allies in 2020 and how that would prove they did crimes and could not be let happen.  He never did. Biden did though, in spades. I bet he does it this time.  No more Mr. Nice Guy. 

[jerryskids 6,820]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

If he does this will all the righties here saying these pardons are an admission of guilt say the same about Trump’s family?

No, the righties will rightfully say that Biden started the precedent of preemptively pardoning your family, your inner circle, your postal carrier, and anyone you may have come in contact with during your time in office.

Besides, you may have noticed that lawfare was already used by the Left non-stop for the past 4+ years on Trump.  He actually has a reason to pardon people.  The Left, as is often the case, is afraid Trump might do what they've already done to him, so Biden pardoned everyone, and you Leftie simpletons blame Trump.  Sad, really.

[TimHauck 2,901]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

No, the righties will rightfully say that Biden started the precedent of preemptively pardoning your family, your inner circle, your postal carrier, and anyone you may have come in contact with during your time in office.

Besides, you may have noticed that lawfare was already used by the Left non-stop for the past 4+ years on Trump.  He actually has a reason to pardon people.  The Left, as is often the case, is afraid Trump might do what they've already done to him, so Biden pardoned everyone, and you Leftie simpletons blame Trump.  Sad, really.

I’m not blaming Trump since he hasn’t actually done it yet.  And even if he did pre-emptively pardon his family no I wouldn’t automatically assume they were guilty, just like I’m not assuming Biden’s family is.  But funny how righties assume the Biden family is guilty but not Trump’s.

And it’s not just “fear,” the right absolutely did go after Joe Biden, they just came up empty.

[jerryskids 6,820]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’m not blaming Trump since he hasn’t actually done it yet.  And even if he did pre-emptively pardon his family no I wouldn’t automatically assume they were guilty, just like I’m not assuming Biden’s family is.  But funny how righties assume the Biden family is guilty but not Trump’s.

And it’s not just “fear,” the right absolutely did go after Joe Biden, they just came up empty.

They didn't come up empty:  this article from Leftie NPR explains how a combination of timing (with Biden dropping out) and general lack of willingness from all Republicans to go through with it, led the effort to fizzle out.  But they didn't come up empty.

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WASHINGTON — House Republicans have released their initial impeachment inquiry report on President Joe Biden, alleging an abuse of power and obstruction of justice in the financial dealings of his son Hunter Biden and family associates.

The nearly yearlong investigation by Republicans stops short of alleging any criminal wrongdoing by the president. Instead, the almost 300-page report out Monday, the opening day of the Democratic National Convention, covers familiar ground, asserting the Biden family traded on its "brand" in business ventures in corrupt ways that rise to the Constitution's high bar for impeachment.

With Biden no longer running for reelection, next steps are highly uncertain. House Republicans have not had support from their own ranks to actually impeach the president, and removal by the Senate is even further afield. Many Republicans prefer to focus attention on the Democratic Party's presumptive presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris, with some probes getting underway.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/19/nx-s1-5081313/biden-impeachment-report-house-republicans

This is why folks feel Biden's family is guilty.  What even does "Trump's family being guilty" mean?  

Regardless, I said earlier this week that I don't care about the family money laundering stuff; that spigot is largely closed, so Hunter, James, and the rest of the second-handers need to find a new grift.

I'm more interested in Fauci funding gain-of-function research, and what exactly the J6 committee did or didn't do.

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

The Trump Team is now saying that the pardons were unconstitutional and mean nothing because they were never charged with anything, there's nothing to pardon. 

He intends to go after each one of them regardless. Paybacks are a Biatch. 

[seafoam1 3,056]

5 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

The Trump Team is now saying that the pardons were unconstitutional and mean nothing because they were never charged with anything, there's nothing to pardon. 

He intends to go after each one of them regardless. Paybacks are a Biatch. 

He should. And he should go after creepy joe as well. Why the fock do you pardon people who were never charged with anything other than random speculation of criminal activity? Oh wait. It's because you know for a fact they are criminals. 

What if Trump came into office and officially pardoned his whole family as his first presidential move? What the fock would liberals be saying about that?

[TimHauck 2,901]

27 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

They didn't come up empty:  this article from Leftie NPR explains how a combination of timing (with Biden dropping out) and general lack of willingness from all Republicans to go through with it, led the effort to fizzle out.  But they didn't come up empty.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/19/nx-s1-5081313/biden-impeachment-report-house-republicans

This is why folks feel Biden's family is guilty.  What even does "Trump's family being guilty" mean?  

Regardless, I said earlier this week that I don't care about the family money laundering stuff; that spigot is largely closed, so Hunter, James, and the rest of the second-handers need to find a new grift.

I'm more interested in Fauci funding gain-of-function research, and what exactly the J6 committee did or didn't do.

Per what you quoted, they came up empty on implicating Joe.  And if Joe wasn’t involved then there wasn’t the giant conspiracy that many seem to think.

I said if people are assuming the Biden family is guilty because they have been preemptively pardoned, then those same people need to assume the Trump family is guilty if they get preemptively pardoned too.  It’s called being consistent, I know that’s a foreign concept to many righties here.

[seafoam1 3,056]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Per what you quoted, they came up empty on implicating Joe.  And if Joe wasn’t involved then there wasn’t the giant conspiracy that many seem to think.

I said if people are assuming the Biden family is guilty because they have been preemptively pardoned, then those same people need to assume the Trump family is guilty if they get preemptively pardoned too.  It’s called being consistent, I know that’s a foreign concept to many righties here.

Why did he pardon them if they didn't do anything wrong?

[TimHauck 2,901]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Why did he pardon them if they didn't do anything wrong?

If Trump pardons his family will you assume they did something wrong?

[seafoam1 3,056]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

If Trump pardons his family will you assume they did something wrong?

Yes.

Especially if the family is traveling on their own to China and Ukraine to make deals. 

Unless there are more death threats from liberals. Trump got shot by you focks. He needs to be wary. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

said if people are assuming the Biden family is guilty because they have been preemptively pardoned, then those same people need to assume the Trump family is guilty if they get preemptively pardoned too.

Again with the false narratives?

If, if, if. TRUMP HASN'T PARDONED HIMSELF OR HIS FAMILY. THERE'S NO REASON TO. 

BIDEN IS A CROOK, ALWAYS HAS BEEN. 

[TimHauck 2,901]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

Again with the false narratives?

If, if, if. TRUMP HASN'T PARDONED HIMSELF OR HIS FAMILY. THERE'S NO REASON TO. 

BIDEN IS A CROOK, ALWAYS HAS BEEN. 

I was replying to @jerryskids creating that scenario

[TimHauck 2,901]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Yes.

Especially if the family is traveling on their own to China and Ukraine to make deals. 

Fair enough, that might be your best post ever on here.

I don’t assume the Bidens are guilty just because there is the concern for a witch hunt.   Just like I wouldn’t assume the Trumps are guilty for the same reason if they get preemptively pardoned too.

[jerryskids 6,820]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Fair enough, that might be your best post ever on here.

I don’t assume the Bidens are guilty just because there is the concern for a witch hunt.   Just like I wouldn’t assume the Trumps are guilty for the same reason if they get preemptively pardoned too.

Would Fauci be a witch hunt?  J6 committee?

[seafoam1 3,056]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Fair enough, that might be your best post ever on here.

I don’t assume the Bidens are guilty just because there is the concern for a witch hunt.   Just like I wouldn’t assume the Trumps are guilty for the same reason if they get preemptively pardoned too.

C'mon. Hunter's laptop was not fake. WTF did they not reveal the evidence? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,483]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

The Trump Team is now saying that the pardons were unconstitutional and mean nothing because they were never charged with anything, there's nothing to pardon. 

He intends to go after each one of them regardless. Paybacks are a Biatch. 

Good. Let the SC decide. At least make those m-fing perverts pay through the ass for lawyers.  

[TimHauck 2,901]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Would Fauci be a witch hunt?  J6 committee?

Fauci yes IMO.  I don’t believe he was involved in the shady sh1t.  Not sure if you saw this, from before Trump took office, acknowledging that Peter Daszak’s violated his company’s agreement with the government:

https://oversight.house.gov/release/breaking-hhs-formally-debars-ecohealth-alliance-dr-peter-daszak-after-covid-select-reveals-pandemic-era-wrongdoing/
 

[jerryskids 6,820]

24 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Fauci yes IMO.  I don’t believe he was involved in the shady sh1t.  Not sure if you saw this, from before Trump took office, acknowledging that Peter Daszak’s violated his company’s agreement with the government:

https://oversight.house.gov/release/breaking-hhs-formally-debars-ecohealth-alliance-dr-peter-daszak-after-covid-select-reveals-pandemic-era-wrongdoing/
 

Wow, thanks.

I mean, wow.

So we are to believe that 3 days before the inauguration, a committee headed by Comer concluded that Daszak and EcoHealth were rogue actors, and nobody from the government told them to invest it in GOF research?  Put another way, Fauci and/or others told them not to invest in GOF, but they said "ya know what, fock it, we're going to do it anyway because..."  [please fill in this blank, why would they do that?]

I'll give you a counter theory:  there was enough bad PR on all sides of the aisle that they decided Daszak and EcoHealth had to be the fall guys.  I presume that they assured them that they would be made whole in the end.