Engorgeous George 1,977 Posted January 22 16 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Very cool. The difficult thing was giving up the hunting we had on that land. As one might imagine corn fields immediately adjacent to a large marsh in the middle of the Great Lakes Flyway migration route yeilded some outstanding hunting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,290 Posted January 22 Just now, Engorgeous George said: The difficult thing was giving up the hunting we had on that land. As one might imagine corn fields immediately adjacent to a large marsh in the middle of the Great Lakes Flyway migration route yeilded some outstanding hunting. I'm sure. At least it's still a beautiful area, full of wildlife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,874 Posted January 22 15 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Why do liberals speak so loudly about conserving our wildlife when the majority of them don't live near wildlife areas? I guess the opposite could be said about conservatives. Why are they so eager to drill and destroy our land when the majority of them are surrounded by wildlife. Maybe I'm not accurate in this thinking. Because I want to visit there and care about land and animals even if I don’t interact with it directly. With that logic why care about Ukraine or Israel? https://wildmontana.org/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,750 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said: Maybe then support licensing of nuclear facilities. Yes!! https://www.iea.org/news/a-new-era-for-nuclear-energy-beckons-as-projects-policies-and-investments-increase This article calls for an investment of 240 billion. But that’s cheap compared to the potential return. Why isn’t Trump talking about this? Why hasn’t he said one word about it? I and many other liberals would support him if he did. (Well at least I would.) I would also love to see a Manhattan Project like effort to pursue nuclear fusion. What is more important? Nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,977 Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm sure. At least it's still a beautiful area, full of wildlife. I wonder if the land supported more wildlife as a farm than as fallow land. During the migration the farm was very quiet and the sileage and the corm cobs which did not get harvested suported a lot of geese. maybe more than fallow land. it might have been a feeding station. Who knows whether as fallow land it has more food than as farmland. i understand they did try to encourage some berries adn wild roses to grow so there would be rosehips for the geese to eat, along with the berries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,977 Posted January 22 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Yes!! https://www.iea.org/news/a-new-era-for-nuclear-energy-beckons-as-projects-policies-and-investments-increase This article calls for an investment of 240 billion. But that’s cheap compared to the potential return. Why isn’t Trump talking about this? Why hasn’t he said one word about it? I and many other liberals would support him if he did. (Well at least I would.) I would also love to see a Manhattan Project like effort to pursue nuclear fusion. What is more important? Nothing. Those opposed to nukes are opposed to first generation facilities adn the examples they can come up with from those facilities. They seem blissfully unaware of the reactors the navy has had shipboard and subboard these last 60 years or so. Reactors are incredibly safe now, and if constructed as small;er sized ones, like the ones on subs, fairly easy to shut down. Ii would suggest they can even be built on barges which can be rapidly sunk if the need arises. There is no reason they have to be land based, particularly near fault lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,290 Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, peenie said: Because I want to visit there and care about land and animals even if I don’t interact with it directly. With that logic why care about Ukraine or Israel? https://wildmontana.org/ I know why people should care. I think everyone should care like you do. We need to take care of ourselves before we can take care of other countries. Listen to the flight attendant, put your mask on first and then help then person beside you. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,290 Posted January 22 7 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I wonder if the land supported more wildlife as a farm than as fallow land. During the migration the farm was very quiet and the sileage and the corm cobs which did not get harvested suported a lot of geese. maybe more than fallow land. it might have been a feeding station. Who knows whether as fallow land it has more food than as farmland. i understand they did try to encourage some berries adn wild roses to grow so there would be rosehips for the geese to eat, along with the berries. I'm a firm believer that it's more beneficial to wildlife in it's natural state in most cases. The geese are not the only thing that benefit from it. There are multiple animals, insects and plant species that will thrive more in that environment compared to farmland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,642 Posted January 22 25 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: This reminds me of what some have said to me about the liberal culture and how far left they have gone. I have heard people like yourself say that it's important to stop the liberal agenda, not because it's going to affect us tomorrow, but that it will affect us further down the road. Slowly losing our traditional culture. Similar to giving up certain aspects of our rights. Give into them now and what else will they take? If you start saying it's ok destroy one area of our natural habitat, won't that just lead to more areas being destroyed? Once we get to a certain point, might as well keep going. I mean, we've already gone this far. I think that's a reasonable comparison. No. I said the liberal agenda is affecting us NOW. And will continue to affect us negatively if they stay in power. So you started off on the wrong premise here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,290 Posted January 22 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: No. I said the liberal agenda is affecting us NOW. And will continue to affect us negatively if they stay in power. So you started off on the wrong premise here. How is it affecting you now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,642 Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: How is it affecting you now? You have posted in probably 30-40 threads of how liberal agendas are negatively affecting us and at times even agreed, and now you are asking me this? Check out this forum for the past 4 years. Then maybe move onto the obama years race baiting and identity politics years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,290 Posted January 22 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: You have posted in probably 30-40 threads of how liberal agendas are negatively affecting us and at times even agreed, and now you are asking me this? Chick out this forum for the past 4 years. Then maybe move onto the obama years race baiting and identity politics years. How is it affecting you personally is what I'm asking. It's not really affecting me personally, it's just not the direction I want our country going. I assume you feel the same way, unless you do have some personal, negative experiences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,642 Posted January 22 29 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: How is it affecting you personally is what I'm asking. It's not really affecting me personally, it's just not the direction I want our country going. I assume you feel the same way, unless you do have some personal, negative experiences. Inflation isn't affecting you? You don't have to take mandatory DEI training for hours a year? You don't see how simply bringing up Trump's name doesn't send some people into flames at the store or wherever? You don't see the identity sensitivity in the work place, and basically everywhere else? You don't see the wild fires in LA that were mis-managed by liberal defunding? You don't see the massive crap spending by our government that is paid for by our taxes? You don't see the murder rates in liberal run cities going crazy? You don't see black people crying for reparations? Did they do this as much pre obama? This country is a ticking time bomb when liberals are in power. About 6 months after I retired I got a little stir crazy and took a job delivering mail for a rural office about 12 miles from where I live. I don't work much but it keeps me in shape and active. Anyway, for one thing, you don't dare say the word Trump at the office because 75% of them will focking hound you on it. And another, one guy got pissed at another dude and told him off once. Instead of just telling the guy to chill out, they suspended him for a couple weeks, then when he came back they forced him to go up to each person in the building and tell them "Hi, it's a new year and I'm just trying to self improve. So what's your name again? Oh, ok "Seafoam1" I'm sorry if I ever offended you in any way and I promise to work on my ways and please let me know directly if I hurt your feelings in any way." It was more than awkward. I have got along with the guy fine. And talk about swearing, the postmaster and the manager cuss like there is no end to the use of the word "fock". So what's their problem? Treating adults like children is liberalism. All of this is liberalism and I am 100% sure I'm leaving out about 500 other things but don't want this to drag on so long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,290 Posted January 22 Inflation isn't affecting you? Yes, but I don't put that solely on the liberal agenda. You don't have to take mandatory DEI training for hours a year? No. I own my own business in rural Iowa. You don't see how simply bringing up Trump's name doesn't send some people into flames at the store or wherever? No. I don't live in the city, full of nutjobs. You don't see the identity sensitivity in the work place, and basically everywhere else? No. You don't see the wild fires in LA that were mis-managed by liberal defunding? That doesn't personally affect me so it doesn't apply. You don't see the massive crap spending by our government that is paid for by our taxes? I've seen crap spending by every political group. You don't see the murder rates in liberal run cities going crazy? Once again, this doesn't affect me and doesn't apply. You don't see black people crying for reparations? See above. Did they do this as much pre obama? You've gone off track. Regardless of all that not affecting me personally, I don't care for the liberal agenda. I don't want our country to continue going down that road. That's why I'm not a democrat and didn't vote that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,642 Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Inflation isn't affecting you? Yes, but I don't put that solely on the liberal agenda. You don't have to take mandatory DEI training for hours a year? No. I own my own business in rural Iowa. You don't see how simply bringing up Trump's name doesn't send some people into flames at the store or wherever? No. I don't live in the city, full of nutjobs. You don't see the identity sensitivity in the work place, and basically everywhere else? No. You don't see the wild fires in LA that were mis-managed by liberal defunding? That doesn't personally affect me so it doesn't apply. You don't see the massive crap spending by our government that is paid for by our taxes? I've seen crap spending by every political group. You don't see the murder rates in liberal run cities going crazy? Once again, this doesn't affect me and doesn't apply. You don't see black people crying for reparations? See above. Did they do this as much pre obama? You've gone off track. Regardless of all that not affecting me personally, I don't care for the liberal agenda. I don't want our country to continue going down that road. That's why I'm not a democrat and didn't vote that way. Well sorry to tell you this, but most people don't live in rural areas. Nr do most people own their own businesses in rural areas. So, let's keep this discussion to the common man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,290 Posted January 22 8 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Well sorry to tell you this, but most people don't live in rural areas. Nr do most people own their own businesses in rural areas. So, let's keep this discussion to the common man. I’m pretty sure the only businesses around here that go through that crap are pretty large. Most of those large businesses are in cities. Small town USA is not as liberal but you already know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,642 Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I’m pretty sure the only businesses around here that go through that crap are pretty large. Most of those large businesses are in cities. Small town USA is not as liberal but you already know that. Well, either way, I never feel restrained in saying my thoughts on things if asked but in the work place, I don't bring up some things because I know it will absolutely trigger some people. So what's the point? And all legal American people do have to pay taxes and I have a moral compass that tells me it has been spent incorrectly and in bad faith to my contributions at my jobs and in my community. I do not like funding foreign wars, I do not like like funding bumbling embarrassing military actions. I don't like being represented by people who don't have my interests and I don't like law enforcement hate mongering that has been a trademark of the liberal government for years now. And I absolutely hate the race baiting agenda that obama put into motion and is still moving onward by evidence of another thread peenie was in earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,977 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm a firm believer that it's more beneficial to wildlife in it's natural state in most cases. The geese are not the only thing that benefit from it. There are multiple animals, insects and plant species that will thrive more in that environment compared to farmland. Certainly there will be greater biodiversity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites