Thanks to illegal alien dbags we all pay more for insurance

[jbycho 756]

43 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Or perhaps it’s a testament to you and others making it about me? You’re the one who always wants to bring up my personal life and psychoanalyze me. Me, I just talk about the issues. 

No you don't just talk about issues. You talk about your personal problems in life.

You said you are fat.

You said your wife is a drunk.

You said you are gay.

You said you don't care people are getting killed and raped by illegals. Keep them coming. Make them legal. 

You said you are a liberal. 

 

This is a you problem. Stop trying to blame your problems on other people. You made your bed, now go lie in it.  And stop your useless trolling. 

 

[easilyscan 1,010]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

The main reason that many choose not to do it is because they are terrified of becoming part of the system. They don’t want to be noticed. So they stay in the shadows, pay everything in cash, and avoid all government if they can. Despite this they pay millions to our government every year in sales taxes alone. 

The Cost of Illegal Immigration to Taxpayers

Prepared Testimony of Steven A. Camarota Director of Research Center for Immigration Studies

 

For

Immigration integrity, security, and enforcement subcommittee of the house judiciary committee

Hearing entitled “the impact of illegal immigration on social services

Thursday, January 11, 2024

 

 

Key Points

• The current surge of illegal immigration is unprecedented. Some 2.7 million inadmissible aliens have been released into the country by the administration since January 2021. There have also been 1.5 million “got-aways” — individuals observed entering illegally but not stopped. Visa overstays also seem to have hit a record in FY 2022.

 

• We preliminarily estimate that the illegal immigrant population grew to 12.8 million by October of 2023, up 2.6 million since January 2021, when the president took office. This is the net increase in the illegal population based on monthly Census Bureau data, not the number of new arrivals.

 

• Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

 

• Using the National Academies’ estimate of immigrants’ net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000, although this estimate comes with some caveats.

 

• Illegal immigrants make extensive use of welfare. Based on government data, we estimate that 59 percent of households headed by illegal immigrants use one or more major welfare programs, compared to 39 percent of households headed by the U.S.-born.

 

• Based on their use rate of major welfare programs, we estimate that illegal immigrants receive $42 billion in benefits, or about 4 percent of the total cost of the cash, Medicaid, food and housing programs examined in our study. However, this is only a rough approximation due to limitations in the data.

 

• Illegal immigrants can receive welfare on behalf of U.S.-born children. Also, illegal immigrant children can receive school lunch/breakfast and WIC directly. A number of states provide Medicaid to some illegal immigrants, and a few provide SNAP. Several million illegal immigrants also have work authorization (e.g. DACA, TPS and some asylum applicants), allowing receipt of the EITC.

 

• The high welfare use of illegal immigrant households is not explained by an unwillingness to work. In fact, 94 percent of illegal immigrant households have at least one worker, compared to only 73 percent of U.S.-born households. But the nation’s welfare system is design to help low-wage workers with children, which describes a very large share of illegal immigrant households.

 

• In addition to consuming welfare, illegal immigration makes significant use of public education. Based on average costs per student, the estimated 4 million children of illegal immigrants in public schools created $68.1 billion in costs in 2019. The vast majority of these children are U.S.-born.

 

• Use of emergency medical services is another area in which illegal immigrants create significant fiscal costs. Prior research indicates that there are 5.8 million uninsured illegal immigrants in the country in 2019, accounting for a little over one-fifth of the total population without health insurance. The costs of providing care to them likely totals some $7 billion annually.

 

• Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate that illegal immigrants in 2019 paid roughly $5.9 billion in federal income tax, $16.2 billion in Social Security tax and $3.8 billion in Medicaid taxes. However, as the net fiscal drain of $68,000 per person cited above indicates, these taxes are not nearly enough to cover the cost of the services they receive.

 

• Illegal immigrants do add perhaps $321 billion to the nation’s GDP, but this is not a measure of their tax contributions or the benefits they create for the U.S.-born. Almost all the increase in economic activity goes to the illegal immigrants themselves in the form of wages.

 

I only read about 1/8 of this report, so it might be mentioned later, but something that wasn't covered is the cost absorbed by US citizens for those that are criminal types.

https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf

[WhiteWonder 2,906]

6 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

Explain to me, in detail, how our auto insurance would go up without illegal immigrants being here in the country operating motor vehicles with no insurance.  It's a subject I am very familiar with so I look forward to your answer. 

 

6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Al prices would go up as a result of grocery prices going up. 

 

Still waiting.

I assume he meant "All" and not Artificial Intelligence. I would LOVE to hear how rising grocery prices will have a direct impact on Auto Insurance policy quotes... especially a greater impact than an increased number of under or in this case uninsured motorists....   and this is pretending grocery prices will go up because of deportation, even though well all know illegal immigration will always exist in some form, and the industries who most use it for their workforce will still find a way. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Kids get raped by transgender ones too. 

[shadrap 253]

7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Al prices would go up as a result of grocery prices going up. 

now you are just making things up.  go back to Trump and everything he does is bad.

[jonnyutah 531]

13 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Why would it raise the cost of homeowner's insurance if an illegal alien's house burned down without coverage?

That is the wrong question. You should be asking when illegal immigrants start wildfires does that raise our insurance? 

When illegal immigrants go to emergency rooms and by law have to receive treatment and then skip out on the bill does that raise our insurance?

When they drink and drive and kill people does that raise our insurance?

When they come into our country and steal does that raise our insurance? 

When hector and juan start fires with their lawnmowers does that raise our insurance?

[TrailGuy 554]

Cultists just love to blame everything on illegal aliens

Anything to justify your hatred.

The truth is there are many reasons why auto insurance has increased so much the past couple of years the least of which is illegal aliens. Anyone in the industry will tell you the same.  Primarily Covid supply chain issues and inflation raised the price of autos and auto parts.

Facts not feels boyo.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/14/cars/car-insurance-expensive-inflation/index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/select/average-cost-of-full-car-insurance-went-up-in-2024/

https://eu.floridatoday.com/story/news/2025/02/13/why-car-insurance-expensive-florida-cheap-insurance-rates/78452091007/

 

[jbycho 756]

31 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Cultists just love to blame everything on illegal aliens

Anything to justify your hatred.

The truth is there are many reasons why auto insurance has increased so much the past couple of years the least of which is illegal aliens. Anyone in the industry will tell you the same.  Primarily Covid supply chain issues and inflation raised the price of autos and auto parts.

Facts not feels boyo.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/14/cars/car-insurance-expensive-inflation/index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/select/average-cost-of-full-car-insurance-went-up-in-2024/

https://eu.floridatoday.com/story/news/2025/02/13/why-car-insurance-expensive-florida-cheap-insurance-rates/78452091007/

 

More liberal meltdown material. 

[jonnyutah 531]

5 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

Cultists just love to blame everything on illegal aliens

Anything to justify your hatred.

The truth is there are many reasons why auto insurance has increased so much the past couple of years the least of which is illegal aliens. Anyone in the industry will tell you the same.  Primarily Covid supply chain issues and inflation raised the price of autos and auto parts.

Facts not feels boyo.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/14/cars/car-insurance-expensive-inflation/index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/select/average-cost-of-full-car-insurance-went-up-in-2024/

https://eu.floridatoday.com/story/news/2025/02/13/why-car-insurance-expensive-florida-cheap-insurance-rates/78452091007/

 

Cars are getting safer yet accidents are increasing. 

Hit and run accidents rising like crazy.

Hispanic pedestrian fatalities rising and are even higher than black rates now.  

Latino fatal car crash rates rising like crazy.

Flat annual charges for uninsured motorist coverage all spiking in areas with heavy illegal immigrant populations. 

This stuff is all so obvious if you could just part the maddow bush hair and see straight ahead. 

 

 

[The Real timschochet 7,388]

Again all of these problems are far outweighed by the positives of having these people in our society. The solution to most of these issues is to give them amnesty. We will eventually arrive at that solution when the American public discover that Trump has failed to kick them out and that it’s simply not possible. That realization may take a few years but it will come. 

[CaptainObvious1 368]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Again all of these problems are far outweighed by the positives of having these people in our society. The solution to most of these issues is to give them amnesty. We will eventually arrive at that solution when the American public discover that Trump has failed to kick them out and that it’s simply not possible. That realization may take a few years but it will come. 

Biden and Obama didn't do that.   

Let's just get rid of all crimes and let people do whatever they want as long as they paint and pick fruit

[The Real timschochet 7,388]

Just now, CaptainObvious1 said:

Biden and Obama didn't do that.   

Let's just get rid of all crimes and let people do whatever they want as long as they paint and pick fruit

Biden and Obama were scared of voters like you. 

 

[CaptainObvious1 368]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden and Obama were scared of voters like you. 

 

Career politicians that don't care about doing the right thing other than lining their own pockets

[HB Localboy 122]

Original Poster is CORRECT!

 

I used to pay $3000 a year for my car insurance, and then one day I said "FUK IT!"

 

If illegal aliens don't pay for car insurance then why should I pay for it?

 

Now I use that $3000 to buy lottery tickets!  

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Again all of these problems are far outweighed by the positives of having these people in our society. The solution to most of these issues is to give them amnesty. We will eventually arrive at that solution when the American public discover that Trump has failed to kick them out and that it’s simply not possible. That realization may take a few years but it will come. 

Liar. You just want your side to win more elections.  Garbage. 

[purdygood 355]

19 minutes ago, HB Localboy said:

Original Poster is CORRECT!

 

I used to pay $3000 a year for my car insurance, and then one day I said "FUK IT!"

 

If illegal aliens don't pay for car insurance then why should I pay for it?

 

Now I use that $3000 to buy lottery tickets!  

 

 

I've been paying Car Insurance since i turned 16.  Never had a claim.  If i could have just invested that money instead id be driving a Ferrari by now. 

[HB Localboy 122]

2 minutes ago, purdygood said:

I've been paying Car Insurance since i turned 16.  Never had a claim.  If i could have just invested that money instead id be driving a Ferrari by now. 

TRUTH IZ TRUTH!

 

If everyone stopped paying for car insurance we would all be rich by now!  

[The Real timschochet 7,388]

22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Liar. You just want your side to win more elections.  Garbage. 

Of all the arguments against amnesty this one is the dumbest. The truth is exactly the opposite of what you think: Latino voters are much more inclined to vote for conservative candidates. The last two elections should have showed you that. Eliminate the undocumented issue and there is really no particular reason for Latinos to vote Democrats. 
 

Personally if you offered me amnesty for most of these folks in exchange for a guarantee that they would have to vote Republican for the rest of their lives, I would gladly accept such a deal. 

[purdygood 355]

33 minutes ago, HB Localboy said:

TRUTH IZ TRUTH!

 

If everyone stopped paying for car insurance we would all be rich by now!  

I should at least get a gold watch at my 30 year zero claims ceremony. 

[seafoam1 3,404]

59 minutes ago, purdygood said:

I should at least get a gold watch at my 30 year zero claims ceremony. 

You should sit by your mailbox and wait. I'm sure it will be coming very soon. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of all the arguments against amnesty this one is the dumbest. The truth is exactly the opposite of what you think: Latino voters are much more inclined to vote for conservative candidates. The last two elections should have showed you that. Eliminate the undocumented issue and there is really no particular reason for Latinos to vote Democrats. 
 

Personally if you offered me amnesty for most of these folks in exchange for a guarantee that they would have to vote Republican for the rest of their lives, I would gladly accept such a deal. 

Bullshitt. You were all bragging that Texas was gonna turn blue due to demographics. Plus packing them in the blue states in order to get more congressional seats. Ain’t no berries getting picked in NYC and Chicago.  Why do they still need money to put them up in hotels? Everything you say is debunked with a casual glance. 

[WhiteWonder 2,906]

15 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

Cultists just love to blame everything on illegal aliens

Anything to justify your hatred.

The truth is there are many reasons why auto insurance has increased so much the past couple of  (yes, correct) years the least of which is illegal aliens. Anyone in the industry will tell you the same. (Nope) Primarily Covid supply chain issues and inflation raised the price of autos and auto parts.

Facts not feels boyo.