Trial of Karen Read - Thoughts?

[artista928 17]

Defense attorney Runkle & Mark Bederow are summing up the trial thus far..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CodTgf4RP2o

 

[Gepetto 1,326]

1 hour ago, artista928 said:

If you haven't watched the whole trial, just watch the defense on cross for all the cw's witnesses..

Remember too the Defense doesn't have to prove a thing. She needs to be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. They just need to have poked one hoĺe..This sloppy investigated case screams reasonable doubt...

Here's a big one. The cw's medical examiner could not even say there was a homocide!

I've watched the trial. I think they need to prove she's innocent or have actual evidence proving she was framed to get the trial dismissed by the judge, otherwise she'll let the jury decide.

[artista928 17]

19 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

I've watched the trial. I think they need to prove she's innocent or have actual evidence proving she was framed to get the trial dismissed by the judge, otherwise she'll let the jury decide.

Defense doesn't need to prove anything. Bev will let it go to the end. She' ruled heavily for cw. She's biased as hell. There are huge holes in their lauhable case so she's not going to end it. I can't wait for Defense to call now fired because of this case in pt 1 & for Aarca to come on again.

 

 

[TheNewGirl 1,420]

So I saw that the state/commonwealth rested today, and I've been sort of tracking what's been happening this time around. 

The Judge has been awful, from what I've seen/heard. She gives small gestures or cues to the Prosecution to stop or whatever. 

 

 

[Maximum Overkill 1,842]

What Biden did to her was horrible 

 

[TheNewGirl 1,420]

Absolutely NOTHING to do with this trial. 

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1 minute ago, TheNewGirl said:

Absolutely NOTHING to do with this trial. 

Oooops 

[HellToupee 1,649]

Imagine the prosecution not calling the lead investigator and the state crash reconstruction guy but pay at least 400k for a hired gun to do a reconstruction who cosplayed the deceased in his report

 

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[artista928 17]

I am soooo enjoying master Alessi & action Jackson desimate the cw witnesses. This case as more holes than swiss cheese along with shitty sloppy police procedures which screams corruption & cover up to me. The people reporting from inside the courtroom feel the jury isn't feeling cw. They are all in their 30s so imo more flexible in thought. Burgess was a major fail. All the lawyer channels I watch analyzing this case for us said they have never seen a bigger wtf ever. The fact that the defense lawyers are now pro bono on this case is very telling, especially Alessi who charges $1800 an hour. Hopefully the 12 deliberators see all the bs the cw has shown!

[artista928 17]

On 5/29/2025 at 10:27 AM, HellToupee said:

Imagine the prosecution not calling the lead investigator and the state crash reconstruction guy but pay at least 400k for a hired gun to do a reconstruction who cosplayed the deceased in his report

 

Mr paint was hilarious. No science, just reinactments. I can't wait for Aarca to blast Aperture's ass with real science & math like they did in the first trial.

[artista928 17]

As far as Proctor, if I was on the jury I'd be wonding where the hell is he. Cw not calling him, Higgins, trooper Paul... I would be thinking Proctor must be dead!

[artista928 17]

If you haven't watched the interview of one of the jurors after the 1st trial, google it. Everyone thought it was a slam dunk for the defense.

[Gepetto 1,326]

The defense just proved Karen Read was framed, in my mind. A sergeant in a police force testified that he was called to arrive at Karen Read's parents' house by her father. He was from a different jurisdiction and did not know any of the police involved in the investigation. He was contacted by Michael Proctor (the disgraced and fired lead investigator in the case that was fired for bias in this case), that Proctor was going to seize the black Lexus SUV at the Read (parents) residence) sometime around or after 3:30 pm the day John O'Keefe died. He testified that he saw the tail light and it was missing one piece about the size of a dollar bill. They showed him a picture in court of the tail light that was photographed after it was in police custody and his response, his testimony, is that picture depicts way more damage than he saw and that it had obviously been busted out.

[HellToupee 1,649]

34 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

The defense just proved Karen Read was framed, in my mind. A sergeant in a police force testified that he was called to arrive at Karen Read's parents' house by her father. He was from a different jurisdiction and did not know any of the police involved in the investigation. He was contacted by Michael Proctor (the disgraced and fired lead investigator in the case that was fired for bias in this case), that Proctor was going to seize the black Lexus SUV at the Read (parents) residence) sometime around or after 3:30 pm the day John O'Keefe died. He testified that he saw the tail light and it was missing one piece about the size of a dollar bill. They showed him a picture in court of the tail light that was photographed after it was in police custody and his response, his testimony, is that picture depicts way more damage than he saw and that it had obviously been busted out.

Funny Brennan asked him why he didn’t take a photo of the vehicle but the state police who had the car towed neglected to take them.

[Gepetto 1,326]

If you click play, I have it set to start with Sergeant Nick Barros testimony which turns this case to point to framed and innocence.

[artista928 17]

9 hours ago, Gepetto said:

If you click play, I have it set to start with Sergeant Nick Barros testimony which turns this case to point to framed and innocence.

Yes! Brennan did a decent cross but it fell way short. This cop has no reason to lie, to go against the others. He was in an àccident from a dui driver. If anything he'd be on that point in back of his mind.

Aunti Bev didn't want to rule this case as a mistrial with prejudice as Alessi argued the fact that Brennan can't bring up dna in cross since the defense never brought it up. So here you go. Karma. The case that was set to be defended on the count of poor police investigation now has corruption on it too!

It's no wonder all 4 lawyers are working hard all pro bono, 2 from Cali, 1 from NY & 1 from MA. The fund raising being done is n̈ot to pay the defense lawyers...it's to cover the costs of bringing in their witnesses. If she gets convicted, it'll probably be the largest outrage in history I'd imagine.

Btw, Peter is one I watch too. It's great to watch him & his dad together do the weekly recaps. Peter also is definitely not hard on the eyes.

[artista928 17]

Court resumes tomorrow! It's been gold for the defense if there are no stupid jurors! Looks like Aarca is next!

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5 hours ago, artista928 said:

Court resumes tomorrow! It's been gold for the defense if there are no stupid jurors! Looks like Aarca is next!

I haven't even been following. I just read your recaps. Good stuff. 

[artista928 17]

If you want to know details on the jury & their reactions, Attorney Larry Forman is for sure going to be inside today tweeting.

His YT channel is @TheDuiGuy. His half hour reaction vids to each witness that is in this trial is consise in highlighting the key testimony of each & hella funny. He has over half a million subbers so...

His Twitter is @TheDuiGuyPlus.

He is live right now on YT walking with KR supporters, answering questions.

[artista928 17]

A local tells Larry KR et al usually arrive at 8:30 ET, which is in 20 min. He's on yt now. Many know Larry, acting like he's a celeb.

Former Canton police officer speaking now on Canton PD corruption. This older guy has been there outside in 20 below & above 100 temp with the KR supporters...

[artista928 17]

Karen et aĺ just drove by. Larry's cam is showing reverse so we saw Karen talking to fans with Alessi in the back of the car. Seems defense rests on Tues per her. Verdict watch next week unless there are a few rebutals.

Karen supporters have some pink on. Larry Forman has a light pink tie on.

 

We see the defense team group outside waiting to go in. Larry is up with them chatting. Just too far to hear them.

In they all go. Remember to check out @TheDuiGuyPlus on twitter for details of the day including detailed description of jury reactions & his yt channel @TheDuiGuy for his take.

[artista928 17]

Aarca Mr Wolfe up first. Second Aarca after him.

Jackson has these guys. Jackson has a physics / engineering background & had them in trial #1.

God's speed guys. #freeKarenRead

[artista928 17]

Hanky Panky's biggest nightmare starts now. He was trying to keep these accident reconstructionist Aarca guys out pre trial motions but now has said he has no problem with them testifying.. lol.

Looking forward yet again for Hank to be spanked!

[artista928 17]

I spy Attorney Larry Forman when they show Jackson. He's in the back row, gray suit one over from right by Jackson in KR supporters box.

[artista928 17]

@SueNBCBoston tweeting details & juror reactions.

@DrTurtleBoy inside as well tweeting.

Jurors are all writing notes, very engaged with Dr Wolfe. Night & Day testimony from Dr Welcher...the paint guy..

The potato canon experiment showing trajectory is historical.

Bev being a pos against Jackson of course.

[artista928 17]

I know 0 physics. This guy explains very well that I get it. There's a dude on the jury who is a physics geek smiling ear to ear agreeing with Dr Wolfe..

[artista928 17]

So Aunti Bev is full of sustaining Jackson et al as usual. She let's things go for Brennan. This is her way of helping the cw.

How worried are we that those taking great notes & look responsive to the defense will be "randomly" selected for deliberation...

[artista928 17]

Aperture spent 400K on their flimly high school experiments... Aarca 50K, & the optics are amazing & make sense with actual science.The geeks in the jury are riveted.

[artista928 17]

Very clear & fantastic presentation using a rescue dummy testing at 24mph, the speed KR was going in reverse vs Aperture 8 mph using Dr Welcher paint by colours presentation. Night & day. Even I can see it.

Hanky gonna get a big spanky trying to go up against this guy.

[artista928 17]

JOK arm would have been shattered. Gl Hanky convincing the jury that the tail light made those abrasions on his arm, that he was hit by a car. No bruising see on him too. 24 mph & no bruising. Just the obvious dog bites marks....Also no punctures in the sweatshirt. Big. They say Hanky looking tense there!

Jackson nailed it! Dayam. Haaaaa! Hanky needs time so court not back until after lunch at 1:30 ET for cross...

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Been watching this off and on at work today.  Cross should be fun.  But this guy pretty much put the prosecutions case in the crapper.

[artista928 17]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Been watching this off and on at work today.  Cross should be fun.  But this guy pretty much put the prosecutions case in the crapper.

Their case has been in the toilet since Jen McCabe & on. Biggest circus of wtf I've ever seen in all the live high profile trials I've watched. YSL is second.

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1 minute ago, artista928 said:

Their case has been in the toilet since Jen McCabe & on. Biggest circus of wtf I've ever seen in all the live high profile trials I've watched. YSL is second.

Oh I know.  It's a big crapper though.  Room for more prosecution manure.

[artista928 17]

Holy chit! Re-watching Hanky's cross from the voir dire of Dr Wolfe. If you haven't seen it, you should!

Rude & way in the useless weeds. Wolfe trying not to laugh at times.

[Gepetto 1,326]

51 minutes ago, artista928 said:

JOK arm would have been shattered. Gl Hanky convincing the jury that the tail light made those abrasions on his arm, that he was hit by a car. No bruising see on him too. 24 mph & no bruising. Just the obvious dog bites marks....Also no punctures in the sweatshirt. Big. They say Hanky looking tense there!

Jackson nailed it! Dayam. Haaaaa! Hanky needs time so court not back until after lunch at 1:30 ET for cross...

I know. That speed test shown at regular speed would have shattered the bones in his arm and forearm and bruised his arm beyond belief.

[Gepetto 1,326]

In this trial has the jury been told that Higgins and the Homeowner phones showed calls to each other at 2 something am (that each say were butt dials) and that they then disposed of their phones and got new phones?

[artista928 17]

Just now, Gepetto said:

In this trial has the jury been told that Higgins and the Homeowner phones should calls to each other at 2 something am and that they then disposed of their phones and got new phones?

No because Higgins wasn't called to testify. But yeah, more toward the cover up & setting up KR to take the fall..

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18 minutes ago, artista928 said:

Holy chit! Re-watching Hanky's cross from the voir dire of Dr Wolfe. If you haven't seen it, you should!

Rude & way in the useless weeds. Wolfe trying not to laugh at times.

Where would one find this?

[artista928 17]

Spanky getting schooled already! He's trying to pick at his credentials to no avail just like what he did to Dr Russel the dog bite expert.