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9 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

He’s governed as the most centrist President of our lifetime 

He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible.

Him being what you consider centrist doesn't make him any less of a narcissistic a-hole.

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37 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible.

Him being what you consider centrist doesn't make him any less of a narcissistic a-hole.

What planet is one living on if they consider Trump a centrist? 

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2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

 

Is this one of those cases where Trump is completely sane and rational, since he did something you Lefties like?  :dunno: 

I don't know why you quoted me.  

I do think that acting like a normal person is something nice to see from the president.  Call me a leftie I guess.

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1 hour ago, FrancieFootball said:

 He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible.

Because he's a King 

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Trump seemed sort of gay for Mamdani. :wub: 

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4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I’m no SJP expert but I know when things are a “chapter” of a larger organization, they don’t necessarily believe the same things that other chapters do, or even the organization as a whole.  Of course I’m skeptical of the claim that the national organization supports Hamas, looks like this claim is based largely on them receiving funding from other groups who may be “linked” to Hamas.  That is a stretch to definitively state they “support Hamas,” but please share something more concrete if you have it.

I would need to see that, or evidence of Mamdani’s chapter being pro-Hamas while he was a student there to make that determination

Here are specific links from SJP to Hamas.  Some local chapters, some national:

  • In November 2023, three universities (Brandeis, Columbia, and George Washington)  suspended their chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) due to violations of  campus policies,“chants and social media posts calling for violence against Jews,” and “openly support[ing] Hamas.” 
  • In November 2024, SJP at George Mason University was suspended the day after police raided the home of chapter’s president and former president, Jena and Noor Chanaa, in conjunction with a vandalism investigation. Police found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.” 
  • In October 2024, Columbia SJP published a statement titled, “Commemorating One Year of the Strategic and Anti-imperialist Al-Aqsa Flood.” Columbia SJP referred to the Oct 7th Hamas massacre as “a strategic counteroffensive of the oppressed against imperialist aggression.”
  • In March 2024, students from Columbia and Barnard University Apartheid Divest Coalition,1 of which SJP is a leading member, held an event titled “Resistance 101” – despite the university refusing to host the event on campus. The event was sponsored by Samidoun and Within our Lifetime. During the event, International Coordinator at Samidoun Charlotte Kates stated, “There is nothing wrong with being a member of Hamas, being a leader of Hamas, being a fighter in Hamas.”
  • In October 2023, in the aftermath of the brutal Hamas attack, SJP published a statement referring to the violence as a “historic win for the Palestinian resistance.” SJP additionally claimed, “This is what it means to Free Palestine: not just slogans and rallies, but armed confrontation with the oppressors.”
  • In June 2021, SJP activist Nerdeen Kiswani participated in a conference, “Challenging Apartheid in Palestine: Reclaiming the Narrative, Formulating A Vision,” hosted by the Istanbul Sabahattin Zaim University. Conference organizers and sponsors, as well as other participants, were linked to various terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).
  • In November 2024, police searched the house of SJP leaders at George Mason University, Jena and Noor Chanaa, and found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.”
  • In May 2023, SJP co-hosted events featuring Mohammad el-Mezain. El-Mezain, Holy Land Foundation’s (HLF) Director of Endowments, was one of five individuals arrested and convicted as part of the federal case against the Holy Land Foundation for funding Hamas. El-Mezain was found guilty of conspiracy for providing material support to Hamas and was sentenced to 15 years in prison.

https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/students-for-justice-in-palestine-sjp/

There are other links; I don't have time to go through them all now.  

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20 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Here are specific links from SJP to Hamas.  Some local chapters, some national:

  • In November 2023, three universities (Brandeis, Columbia, and George Washington)  suspended their chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) due to violations of  campus policies,“chants and social media posts calling for violence against Jews,” and “openly support[ing] Hamas.” 
  • In November 2024, SJP at George Mason University was suspended the day after police raided the home of chapter’s president and former president, Jena and Noor Chanaa, in conjunction with a vandalism investigation. Police found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.” 
  • In October 2024, Columbia SJP published a statement titled, “Commemorating One Year of the Strategic and Anti-imperialist Al-Aqsa Flood.” Columbia SJP referred to the Oct 7th Hamas massacre as “a strategic counteroffensive of the oppressed against imperialist aggression.”
  • In March 2024, students from Columbia and Barnard University Apartheid Divest Coalition,1 of which SJP is a leading member, held an event titled “Resistance 101” – despite the university refusing to host the event on campus. The event was sponsored by Samidoun and Within our Lifetime. During the event, International Coordinator at Samidoun Charlotte Kates stated, “There is nothing wrong with being a member of Hamas, being a leader of Hamas, being a fighter in Hamas.”
  • In October 2023, in the aftermath of the brutal Hamas attack, SJP published a statement referring to the violence as a “historic win for the Palestinian resistance.” SJP additionally claimed, “This is what it means to Free Palestine: not just slogans and rallies, but armed confrontation with the oppressors.”
  • In June 2021, SJP activist Nerdeen Kiswani participated in a conference, “Challenging Apartheid in Palestine: Reclaiming the Narrative, Formulating A Vision,” hosted by the Istanbul Sabahattin Zaim University. Conference organizers and sponsors, as well as other participants, were linked to various terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).
  • In November 2024, police searched the house of SJP leaders at George Mason University, Jena and Noor Chanaa, and found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.”
  • In May 2023, SJP co-hosted events featuring Mohammad el-Mezain. El-Mezain, Holy Land Foundation’s (HLF) Director of Endowments, was one of five individuals arrested and convicted as part of the federal case against the Holy Land Foundation for funding Hamas. El-Mezain was found guilty of conspiracy for providing material support to Hamas and was sentenced to 15 years in prison.

https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/students-for-justice-in-palestine-sjp/

There are other links; I don't have time to go through them all now.  

Man, I knew Mamdani was young, was he still in college in 2023/2024 when most of these things happened?   And again, different chapters within the same organization can believe different things.

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48 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Here are specific links from SJP to Hamas.  Some local chapters, some national:

  • In November 2023, three universities (Brandeis, Columbia, and George Washington)  suspended their chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) due to violations of  campus policies,“chants and social media posts calling for violence against Jews,” and “openly support[ing] Hamas.” 
  • In November 2024, SJP at George Mason University was suspended the day after police raided the home of chapter’s president and former president, Jena and Noor Chanaa, in conjunction with a vandalism investigation. Police found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.” 
  • In October 2024, Columbia SJP published a statement titled, “Commemorating One Year of the Strategic and Anti-imperialist Al-Aqsa Flood.” Columbia SJP referred to the Oct 7th Hamas massacre as “a strategic counteroffensive of the oppressed against imperialist aggression.”
  • In March 2024, students from Columbia and Barnard University Apartheid Divest Coalition,1 of which SJP is a leading member, held an event titled “Resistance 101” – despite the university refusing to host the event on campus. The event was sponsored by Samidoun and Within our Lifetime. During the event, International Coordinator at Samidoun Charlotte Kates stated, “There is nothing wrong with being a member of Hamas, being a leader of Hamas, being a fighter in Hamas.”
  • In October 2023, in the aftermath of the brutal Hamas attack, SJP published a statement referring to the violence as a “historic win for the Palestinian resistance.” SJP additionally claimed, “This is what it means to Free Palestine: not just slogans and rallies, but armed confrontation with the oppressors.”
  • In June 2021, SJP activist Nerdeen Kiswani participated in a conference, “Challenging Apartheid in Palestine: Reclaiming the Narrative, Formulating A Vision,” hosted by the Istanbul Sabahattin Zaim University. Conference organizers and sponsors, as well as other participants, were linked to various terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).
  • In November 2024, police searched the house of SJP leaders at George Mason University, Jena and Noor Chanaa, and found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.”
  • In May 2023, SJP co-hosted events featuring Mohammad el-Mezain. El-Mezain, Holy Land Foundation’s (HLF) Director of Endowments, was one of five individuals arrested and convicted as part of the federal case against the Holy Land Foundation for funding Hamas. El-Mezain was found guilty of conspiracy for providing material support to Hamas and was sentenced to 15 years in prison.

https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/students-for-justice-in-palestine-sjp/

There are other links; I don't have time to go through them all now.  

Your president pardoned and went into business with a guy who laundered $ for Hamas  and Palestine Islamic Jihad. :dunno: 

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