FrancieFootball 199 Posted 11 hours ago 9 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Heās governed as the most centrist President of our lifetimeĀ He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible. Him being what you consider centrist doesn't make him any less of a narcissistic a-hole. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,570 Posted 10 hours ago 37 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible. Him being what you consider centrist doesn't make him any less of a narcissistic a-hole. What planet is one living on if they consider Trump a centrist?Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,299 Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, jerryskids said: Ā Is this one of those cases where Trump is completely sane and rational, since he did something you Lefties like?Ā Ā I don't know why you quoted me.Ā Ā I do think that acting like a normal person is something nice to see from the president.Ā Call me a leftie I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,487 Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, FrancieFootball said:  He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible. Because he's a King Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,947 Posted 9 hours ago Trump seemed sort of gay for Mamdani. Ā 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,118 Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, TimHauck said: Iām no SJP expert but I know when things are a āchapterā of a larger organization, they donāt necessarily believe the same things that other chapters do, or even the organization as a whole. Ā Of course Iām skeptical of the claim that the national organization supports Hamas, looks like this claim is based largely on them receiving funding from other groups who may be ālinkedā to Hamas. Ā That is a stretch to definitively state they āsupport Hamas,ā but please share something more concrete if you have it. I would need to see that, or evidence of Mamdaniās chapter being pro-Hamas while he was a student there to make that determination Here are specific links from SJP to Hamas.Ā Some local chapters, some national: In November 2023, three universities (Brandeis,Ā Columbia, andĀ George Washington)Ā suspended their chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) due to violations ofĀ campus policies,āchants and social media posts calling for violence against Jews,ā and āopenly support[ing] Hamas.āĀ In November 2024, SJP at George Mason University wasĀ suspendedĀ the day after police raided the home of chapterās president and former president, Jena and Noor Chanaa, in conjunction with a vandalism investigation. PoliceĀ foundĀ firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read ādeath to Americaā and ādeath to Jews.āĀ In October 2024, Columbia SJP published a statement titled, āCommemorating One Year of the Strategic and Anti-imperialist Al-Aqsa Flood.ā Columbia SJP referred to the Oct 7th Hamas massacre as āa strategic counteroffensive of the oppressed against imperialist aggression.ā In March 2024, students from Columbia and Barnard University Apartheid Divest Coalition,1Ā of which SJP is a leading member, held an event titled āResistance 101ā ā despite the universityĀ refusingĀ to host the event on campus. The event wasĀ sponsored byĀ Samidoun and Within our Lifetime. During the event, International Coordinator at Samidoun Charlotte Kates stated, āThere is nothing wrong with being a member of Hamas, being a leader of Hamas, being a fighter in Hamas.ā In October 2023, in the aftermath of the brutal Hamas attack, SJPĀ published a statementĀ referring to the violence as a āhistoric win for the Palestinian resistance.ā SJP additionallyĀ claimed, āThis is what it means to Free Palestine: not just slogans and rallies, but armed confrontation with the oppressors.ā In June 2021, SJP activistĀ Nerdeen KiswaniĀ participated in a conference, āChallenging Apartheid in Palestine: Reclaiming the Narrative, Formulating A Vision,ā hosted by the Istanbul Sabahattin Zaim University. Conference organizers and sponsors, as well as other participants, wereĀ linked to various terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP). In November 2024, policeĀ searchedĀ the house of SJP leaders at George Mason University, Jena and Noor Chanaa, and found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read ādeath to Americaā and ādeath to Jews.ā In May 2023, SJPĀ co-hosted eventsĀ featuring Mohammad el-Mezain. El-Mezain, Holy Land Foundationās (HLF)Ā Director of Endowments, was one of five individuals arrested and convicted as part of the federal case against the Holy Land Foundation for funding Hamas. El-Mezain was foundĀ guiltyĀ of conspiracy for providing material support to Hamas and was sentenced to 15 years in prison. https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/students-for-justice-in-palestine-sjp/ There are other links; I don't have time to go through them all now.Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,336 Posted 7 hours ago 20 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Here are specific links from SJP to Hamas.Ā Some local chapters, some national: In November 2023, three universities (Brandeis,Ā Columbia, andĀ George Washington)Ā suspended their chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) due to violations ofĀ campus policies,āchants and social media posts calling for violence against Jews,ā and āopenly support[ing] Hamas.āĀ In November 2024, SJP at George Mason University wasĀ suspendedĀ the day after police raided the home of chapterās president and former president, Jena and Noor Chanaa, in conjunction with a vandalism investigation. PoliceĀ foundĀ firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read ādeath to Americaā and ādeath to Jews.āĀ In October 2024, Columbia SJP published a statement titled, āCommemorating One Year of the Strategic and Anti-imperialist Al-Aqsa Flood.ā Columbia SJP referred to the Oct 7th Hamas massacre as āa strategic counteroffensive of the oppressed against imperialist aggression.ā In March 2024, students from Columbia and Barnard University Apartheid Divest Coalition,1Ā of which SJP is a leading member, held an event titled āResistance 101ā ā despite the universityĀ refusingĀ to host the event on campus. The event wasĀ sponsored byĀ Samidoun and Within our Lifetime. During the event, International Coordinator at Samidoun Charlotte Kates stated, āThere is nothing wrong with being a member of Hamas, being a leader of Hamas, being a fighter in Hamas.ā In October 2023, in the aftermath of the brutal Hamas attack, SJPĀ published a statementĀ referring to the violence as a āhistoric win for the Palestinian resistance.ā SJP additionallyĀ claimed, āThis is what it means to Free Palestine: not just slogans and rallies, but armed confrontation with the oppressors.ā In June 2021, SJP activistĀ Nerdeen KiswaniĀ participated in a conference, āChallenging Apartheid in Palestine: Reclaiming the Narrative, Formulating A Vision,ā hosted by the Istanbul Sabahattin Zaim University. Conference organizers and sponsors, as well as other participants, wereĀ linked to various terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP). In November 2024, policeĀ searchedĀ the house of SJP leaders at George Mason University, Jena and Noor Chanaa, and found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read ādeath to Americaā and ādeath to Jews.ā In May 2023, SJPĀ co-hosted eventsĀ featuring Mohammad el-Mezain. El-Mezain, Holy Land Foundationās (HLF)Ā Director of Endowments, was one of five individuals arrested and convicted as part of the federal case against the Holy Land Foundation for funding Hamas. El-Mezain was foundĀ guiltyĀ of conspiracy for providing material support to Hamas and was sentenced to 15 years in prison. https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/students-for-justice-in-palestine-sjp/ There are other links; I don't have time to go through them all now.Ā Ā Man, I knew Mamdani was young, was he still in college in 2023/2024 when most of these things happened? Ā And again, different chapters within the same organization can believe different things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,947 Posted 6 hours ago 48 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Here are specific links from SJP to Hamas.Ā Some local chapters, some national: In November 2023, three universities (Brandeis,Ā Columbia, andĀ George Washington)Ā suspended their chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) due to violations ofĀ campus policies,āchants and social media posts calling for violence against Jews,ā and āopenly support[ing] Hamas.āĀ In November 2024, SJP at George Mason University wasĀ suspendedĀ the day after police raided the home of chapterās president and former president, Jena and Noor Chanaa, in conjunction with a vandalism investigation. PoliceĀ foundĀ firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read ādeath to Americaā and ādeath to Jews.āĀ In October 2024, Columbia SJP published a statement titled, āCommemorating One Year of the Strategic and Anti-imperialist Al-Aqsa Flood.ā Columbia SJP referred to the Oct 7th Hamas massacre as āa strategic counteroffensive of the oppressed against imperialist aggression.ā In March 2024, students from Columbia and Barnard University Apartheid Divest Coalition,1Ā of which SJP is a leading member, held an event titled āResistance 101ā ā despite the universityĀ refusingĀ to host the event on campus. The event wasĀ sponsored byĀ Samidoun and Within our Lifetime. During the event, International Coordinator at Samidoun Charlotte Kates stated, āThere is nothing wrong with being a member of Hamas, being a leader of Hamas, being a fighter in Hamas.ā In October 2023, in the aftermath of the brutal Hamas attack, SJPĀ published a statementĀ referring to the violence as a āhistoric win for the Palestinian resistance.ā SJP additionallyĀ claimed, āThis is what it means to Free Palestine: not just slogans and rallies, but armed confrontation with the oppressors.ā In June 2021, SJP activistĀ Nerdeen KiswaniĀ participated in a conference, āChallenging Apartheid in Palestine: Reclaiming the Narrative, Formulating A Vision,ā hosted by the Istanbul Sabahattin Zaim University. Conference organizers and sponsors, as well as other participants, wereĀ linked to various terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP). In November 2024, policeĀ searchedĀ the house of SJP leaders at George Mason University, Jena and Noor Chanaa, and found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read ādeath to Americaā and ādeath to Jews.ā In May 2023, SJPĀ co-hosted eventsĀ featuring Mohammad el-Mezain. El-Mezain, Holy Land Foundationās (HLF)Ā Director of Endowments, was one of five individuals arrested and convicted as part of the federal case against the Holy Land Foundation for funding Hamas. El-Mezain was foundĀ guiltyĀ of conspiracy for providing material support to Hamas and was sentenced to 15 years in prison. https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/students-for-justice-in-palestine-sjp/ There are other links; I don't have time to go through them all now.Ā Ā Your president pardoned and went into business with a guy who laundered $ for Hamas Ā and Palestine Islamic Jihad. Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,336 Posted 6 hours ago 20 minutes ago, MDC said: Your president pardoned and went into business with a guy who laundered $ for Hamas Ā and Palestine Islamic Jihad. Ā True, Trump is an antisemite! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,118 Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, MDC said: Your president pardoned and went into business with a guy who laundered $ for Hamas Ā and Palestine Islamic Jihad. Ā Our president?Ā Or has Fishtown seceded from the union? Regardless, I don't know enough of the details regarding the reason of the pardon to comment.Ā If he pardoned the guy because of his ties to Hamas, then yes, I would agree that that is as antisemitic as founding an SJP group.Ā Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,299 Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Our president?Ā Or has Fishtown seceded from the union? Regardless, I don't know enough of the details regarding the reason of the pardon to comment.Ā If he pardoned the guy because of his ties to Hamas, then yes, I would agree that that is as antisemitic as founding an SJP group.Ā Ā Ā He said he didn't know who he was or why he pardoned him. Is that any better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,947 Posted 4 hours ago 7 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Our president?Ā Or has Fishtown seceded from the union? Regardless, I don't know enough of the details regarding the reason of the pardon to comment.Ā If he pardoned the guy because of his ties to Hamas, then yes, I would agree that that is as antisemitic as founding an SJP group.Ā Ā Ā Trump pardoned ZhaoĀ so he could go into business with him. Made an estimated $4.5B on his crypto venture, just by partnering with a guy whose clients included Al Qaida, Isis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and child pornographers. Ā Thought youād be interested sinceĀ youāre highly sensitive to Calls for the Extermination of All Jews on college campuses. Reeeee!!! Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,336 Posted 3 hours ago 30 minutes ago, MDC said: Trump pardoned ZhaoĀ so he could go into business with him. Made an estimated $4.5B on his crypto venture, just by partnering with a guy whose clients included Al Qaida, Isis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and child pornographers. Ā Thought youād be interested sinceĀ youāre highly sensitive to Calls for the Extermination of All Jews on college campuses. Reeeee!!! Ā TBF, Iād be more concerned about hosting the Syrian dude, who wasĀ literally in Al-Qaida. But then again, Mamdani started a chapter of a club in college and then 10 years later the national office of that club but not all chapters supported October 7!Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,571 Posted 3 hours ago 7 hours ago, squistion said: What planet is one living on if they consider Trump a centrist?Ā every policy trump has enacted has been what democrats ran on for decades, thats how Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 199 Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: every policy trump has enacted has been what democrats ran on for decades, thats how Ā Be more specific. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,118 Posted 3 hours ago 46 minutes ago, MDC said: Trump pardoned ZhaoĀ so he could go into business with him. Made an estimated $4.5B on his crypto venture, just by partnering with a guy whose clients included Al Qaida, Isis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and child pornographers. Ā Thought youād be interested sinceĀ youāre highly sensitive to Calls for the Extermination of All Jews on college campuses. Reeeee!!! Ā Thanks.Ā I oppose that pardon.Ā Thanks also for pointing out the pardon was for crypto selfish reasons, not Hamas support. Sorry you don't accept Trump as your president.Ā Remember when I pointed out that you are a woman who votes for guaranteed loser POTUS candidates so that you can complain about them here like a little girl?Ā Reeee!!! 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: TBF, Iād be more concerned about hosting the Syrian dude, who wasĀ literally in Al-Qaida. But then again, Mamdani started a chapter of a club in college and then 10 years later the national office of that club but not all chapters supported October 7!Ā And here is metal helmet guy saying SJP doesn't hate Jews or support Hamas.Ā Well, just their national and a bunch of chapters, but not 10 years ago when Mamdani founded that chapter!Ā Link to a chapter opposing October 7?Ā Bless your heart, get some life experience young man.Ā Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,571 Posted 3 hours ago 13 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: Be more specific. abortion should be safe legal and rare- bill clinton tariffs are a good thing- lizzy warren enter the country illegally and you will be removed -Obama and Hillary hes also the only president that was pro gay marriage hes also anti-war which used to be a liberal thing Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,571 Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, FrancieFootball said: He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible. Him being what you consider centrist doesn't make him any less of a narcissistic a-hole. derp derp derp, Trump is the most authoritarian ever.Ā No that was Lincoln but you support Newsoulini who shut down small business, locked down our schools, and closed down parks and beaches Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,299 Posted 3 hours ago 21 minutes ago, TimHauck said: TBF, Iād be more concerned about hosting the Syrian dude, who wasĀ literally in Al-Qaida. But then again, Mamdani started a chapter of a club in college and then 10 years later the national office of that club but not all chapters supported October 7!Ā I'd also be concerned about accepting a plane bribe from a guy that funded Hamas, but yeah that college club, oof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,947 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Thanks.Ā I oppose that pardon.Ā Thanks also for pointing out the pardon was for crypto selfish reasons, not Hamas support. My pleasure. SomeoneĀ who is Very Concerned about anti-Semitic āhate speechā on campus shouldĀ know that Donās new business partner actually helps terrorists kill Jews. But if itās just for the money thatās okay! Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,118 Posted 2 hours ago 22 minutes ago, MDC said: My pleasure. SomeoneĀ who is Very Concerned about anti-Semitic āhate speechā on campus shouldĀ know that Donās new business partner actually helps terrorists kill Jews. But if itās just for the money thatās okay! Ā Not OK, but not indicative that he hates Jews.Ā Like Mamdani does, ma'am.Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,947 Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Not OK, but not indicative that he hates Jews.Ā Like Mamdani does, ma'am.Ā Ā No, it doesnāt mean Trump hates Jews. ItĀ means his Deep Concern about āhate speechā is entirely fake and designed to rile up rubes. I think your concern is real though, rube. Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,336 Posted 21 minutes ago 3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:  but you support Newsoulini who shut down small business ⦠and closed down parks and beaches  Trump did this too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites