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9 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

He’s governed as the most centrist President of our lifetime 

He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible.

Him being what you consider centrist doesn't make him any less of a narcissistic a-hole.

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37 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible.

Him being what you consider centrist doesn't make him any less of a narcissistic a-hole.

What planet is one living on if they consider Trump a centrist? 

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2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

 

Is this one of those cases where Trump is completely sane and rational, since he did something you Lefties like?   

I don't know why you quoted me.  

I do think that acting like a normal person is something nice to see from the president.  Call me a leftie I guess.

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1 hour ago, FrancieFootball said:

 He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible.

Because he's a King 

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Trump seemed sort of gay for Mamdani.  

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4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I’m no SJP expert but I know when things are a “chapter” of a larger organization, they don’t necessarily believe the same things that other chapters do, or even the organization as a whole.  Of course I’m skeptical of the claim that the national organization supports Hamas, looks like this claim is based largely on them receiving funding from other groups who may be “linked” to Hamas.  That is a stretch to definitively state they “support Hamas,” but please share something more concrete if you have it.

I would need to see that, or evidence of Mamdani’s chapter being pro-Hamas while he was a student there to make that determination

Here are specific links from SJP to Hamas.  Some local chapters, some national:

• In November 2023, three universities (Brandeis, Columbia, and George Washington)  suspended their chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) due to violations of  campus policies,“chants and social media posts calling for violence against Jews,” and “openly support[ing] Hamas.” 
• In November 2024, SJP at George Mason University was suspended the day after police raided the home of chapter’s president and former president, Jena and Noor Chanaa, in conjunction with a vandalism investigation. Police found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.” 
• In October 2024, Columbia SJP published a statement titled, “Commemorating One Year of the Strategic and Anti-imperialist Al-Aqsa Flood.” Columbia SJP referred to the Oct 7th Hamas massacre as “a strategic counteroffensive of the oppressed against imperialist aggression.”
• In March 2024, students from Columbia and Barnard University Apartheid Divest Coalition,¹ of which SJP is a leading member, held an event titled “Resistance 101” – despite the university refusing to host the event on campus. The event was sponsored by Samidoun and Within our Lifetime. During the event, International Coordinator at Samidoun Charlotte Kates stated, “There is nothing wrong with being a member of Hamas, being a leader of Hamas, being a fighter in Hamas.”
• In October 2023, in the aftermath of the brutal Hamas attack, SJP published a statement referring to the violence as a “historic win for the Palestinian resistance.” SJP additionally claimed, “This is what it means to Free Palestine: not just slogans and rallies, but armed confrontation with the oppressors.”
• In June 2021, SJP activist Nerdeen Kiswani participated in a conference, “Challenging Apartheid in Palestine: Reclaiming the Narrative, Formulating A Vision,” hosted by the Istanbul Sabahattin Zaim University. Conference organizers and sponsors, as well as other participants, were linked to various terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).
• In November 2024, police searched the house of SJP leaders at George Mason University, Jena and Noor Chanaa, and found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.”
• In May 2023, SJP co-hosted events featuring Mohammad el-Mezain. El-Mezain, Holy Land Foundation’s (HLF) Director of Endowments, was one of five individuals arrested and convicted as part of the federal case against the Holy Land Foundation for funding Hamas. El-Mezain was found guilty of conspiracy for providing material support to Hamas and was sentenced to 15 years in prison.

https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/students-for-justice-in-palestine-sjp/

There are other links; I don't have time to go through them all now.  

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20 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Here are specific links from SJP to Hamas.  Some local chapters, some national:

• In November 2023, three universities (Brandeis, Columbia, and George Washington)  suspended their chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) due to violations of  campus policies,“chants and social media posts calling for violence against Jews,” and “openly support[ing] Hamas.” 
• In November 2024, SJP at George Mason University was suspended the day after police raided the home of chapter’s president and former president, Jena and Noor Chanaa, in conjunction with a vandalism investigation. Police found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.” 
• In October 2024, Columbia SJP published a statement titled, “Commemorating One Year of the Strategic and Anti-imperialist Al-Aqsa Flood.” Columbia SJP referred to the Oct 7th Hamas massacre as “a strategic counteroffensive of the oppressed against imperialist aggression.”
• In March 2024, students from Columbia and Barnard University Apartheid Divest Coalition,¹ of which SJP is a leading member, held an event titled “Resistance 101” – despite the university refusing to host the event on campus. The event was sponsored by Samidoun and Within our Lifetime. During the event, International Coordinator at Samidoun Charlotte Kates stated, “There is nothing wrong with being a member of Hamas, being a leader of Hamas, being a fighter in Hamas.”
• In October 2023, in the aftermath of the brutal Hamas attack, SJP published a statement referring to the violence as a “historic win for the Palestinian resistance.” SJP additionally claimed, “This is what it means to Free Palestine: not just slogans and rallies, but armed confrontation with the oppressors.”
• In June 2021, SJP activist Nerdeen Kiswani participated in a conference, “Challenging Apartheid in Palestine: Reclaiming the Narrative, Formulating A Vision,” hosted by the Istanbul Sabahattin Zaim University. Conference organizers and sponsors, as well as other participants, were linked to various terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).
• In November 2024, police searched the house of SJP leaders at George Mason University, Jena and Noor Chanaa, and found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.”
• In May 2023, SJP co-hosted events featuring Mohammad el-Mezain. El-Mezain, Holy Land Foundation’s (HLF) Director of Endowments, was one of five individuals arrested and convicted as part of the federal case against the Holy Land Foundation for funding Hamas. El-Mezain was found guilty of conspiracy for providing material support to Hamas and was sentenced to 15 years in prison.

https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/students-for-justice-in-palestine-sjp/

There are other links; I don't have time to go through them all now.  

Man, I knew Mamdani was young, was he still in college in 2023/2024 when most of these things happened?   And again, different chapters within the same organization can believe different things.

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48 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Here are specific links from SJP to Hamas.  Some local chapters, some national:

• In November 2023, three universities (Brandeis, Columbia, and George Washington)  suspended their chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) due to violations of  campus policies,“chants and social media posts calling for violence against Jews,” and “openly support[ing] Hamas.” 
• In November 2024, SJP at George Mason University was suspended the day after police raided the home of chapter’s president and former president, Jena and Noor Chanaa, in conjunction with a vandalism investigation. Police found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.” 
• In October 2024, Columbia SJP published a statement titled, “Commemorating One Year of the Strategic and Anti-imperialist Al-Aqsa Flood.” Columbia SJP referred to the Oct 7th Hamas massacre as “a strategic counteroffensive of the oppressed against imperialist aggression.”
• In March 2024, students from Columbia and Barnard University Apartheid Divest Coalition,¹ of which SJP is a leading member, held an event titled “Resistance 101” – despite the university refusing to host the event on campus. The event was sponsored by Samidoun and Within our Lifetime. During the event, International Coordinator at Samidoun Charlotte Kates stated, “There is nothing wrong with being a member of Hamas, being a leader of Hamas, being a fighter in Hamas.”
• In October 2023, in the aftermath of the brutal Hamas attack, SJP published a statement referring to the violence as a “historic win for the Palestinian resistance.” SJP additionally claimed, “This is what it means to Free Palestine: not just slogans and rallies, but armed confrontation with the oppressors.”
• In June 2021, SJP activist Nerdeen Kiswani participated in a conference, “Challenging Apartheid in Palestine: Reclaiming the Narrative, Formulating A Vision,” hosted by the Istanbul Sabahattin Zaim University. Conference organizers and sponsors, as well as other participants, were linked to various terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).
• In November 2024, police searched the house of SJP leaders at George Mason University, Jena and Noor Chanaa, and found firearms, ammunition, foreign passports and pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read “death to America” and “death to Jews.”
• In May 2023, SJP co-hosted events featuring Mohammad el-Mezain. El-Mezain, Holy Land Foundation’s (HLF) Director of Endowments, was one of five individuals arrested and convicted as part of the federal case against the Holy Land Foundation for funding Hamas. El-Mezain was found guilty of conspiracy for providing material support to Hamas and was sentenced to 15 years in prison.

https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/students-for-justice-in-palestine-sjp/

There are other links; I don't have time to go through them all now.  

Your president pardoned and went into business with a guy who laundered $ for Hamas  and Palestine Islamic Jihad.  

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20 minutes ago, MDC said:

Your president pardoned and went into business with a guy who laundered $ for Hamas  and Palestine Islamic Jihad.  

True, Trump is an antisemite!

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2 hours ago, MDC said:

Your president pardoned and went into business with a guy who laundered $ for Hamas  and Palestine Islamic Jihad.  

Our president?  Or has Fishtown seceded from the union?

Regardless, I don't know enough of the details regarding the reason of the pardon to comment.  If he pardoned the guy because of his ties to Hamas, then yes, I would agree that that is as antisemitic as founding an SJP group.    

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10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Our president?  Or has Fishtown seceded from the union?

Regardless, I don't know enough of the details regarding the reason of the pardon to comment.  If he pardoned the guy because of his ties to Hamas, then yes, I would agree that that is as antisemitic as founding an SJP group.    

He said he didn't know who he was or why he pardoned him.

Is that any better?

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7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Our president?  Or has Fishtown seceded from the union?

Regardless, I don't know enough of the details regarding the reason of the pardon to comment.  If he pardoned the guy because of his ties to Hamas, then yes, I would agree that that is as antisemitic as founding an SJP group.    

Trump pardoned Zhao so he could go into business with him. Made an estimated $4.5B on his crypto venture, just by partnering with a guy whose clients included Al Qaida, Isis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and child pornographers.  

Thought you’d be interested since you’re highly sensitive to Calls for the Extermination of All Jews on college campuses.

Reeeee!!!  

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30 minutes ago, MDC said:

Trump pardoned Zhao so he could go into business with him. Made an estimated $4.5B on his crypto venture, just by partnering with a guy whose clients included Al Qaida, Isis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and child pornographers.  

Thought you’d be interested since you’re highly sensitive to Calls for the Extermination of All Jews on college campuses.

Reeeee!!!  

TBF, I’d be more concerned about hosting the Syrian dude, who was literally in Al-Qaida.

But then again, Mamdani started a chapter of a club in college and then 10 years later the national office of that club but not all chapters supported October 7! 

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7 hours ago, squistion said:

What planet is one living on if they consider Trump a centrist? 

every policy trump has enacted has been what democrats ran on for decades, thats how

 

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2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

every policy trump has enacted has been what democrats ran on for decades, thats how

 

Be more specific.

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46 minutes ago, MDC said:

Trump pardoned Zhao so he could go into business with him. Made an estimated $4.5B on his crypto venture, just by partnering with a guy whose clients included Al Qaida, Isis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and child pornographers.  

Thought you’d be interested since you’re highly sensitive to Calls for the Extermination of All Jews on college campuses.

Reeeee!!!  

Thanks.  I oppose that pardon.  Thanks also for pointing out the pardon was for crypto selfish reasons, not Hamas support.

Sorry you don't accept Trump as your president.  Remember when I pointed out that you are a woman who votes for guaranteed loser POTUS candidates so that you can complain about them here like a little girl?  Reeee!!!

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

TBF, I’d be more concerned about hosting the Syrian dude, who was literally in Al-Qaida.

But then again, Mamdani started a chapter of a club in college and then 10 years later the national office of that club but not all chapters supported October 7! 

And here is metal helmet guy saying SJP doesn't hate Jews or support Hamas.  Well, just their national and a bunch of chapters, but not 10 years ago when Mamdani founded that chapter!  Link to a chapter opposing October 7?  Bless your heart, get some life experience young man.   

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13 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

Be more specific.

abortion should be safe legal and rare- bill clinton

tariffs are a good thing- lizzy warren

enter the country illegally and you will be removed -Obama and Hillary

hes also the only president that was pro gay marriage

hes also anti-war which used to be a liberal thing

 

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8 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible.

Him being what you consider centrist doesn't make him any less of a narcissistic a-hole.

derp derp derp, Trump is the most authoritarian ever.  No that was Lincoln

but you support Newsoulini who shut down small business, locked down our schools, and closed down parks and beaches

 

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21 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

TBF, I’d be more concerned about hosting the Syrian dude, who was literally in Al-Qaida.

But then again, Mamdani started a chapter of a club in college and then 10 years later the national office of that club but not all chapters supported October 7! 

I'd also be concerned about accepting a plane bribe from a guy that funded Hamas, but yeah that college club, oof.

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1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Thanks.  I oppose that pardon.  Thanks also for pointing out the pardon was for crypto selfish reasons, not Hamas support.

My pleasure. Someone who is Very Concerned about anti-Semitic “hate speech” on campus should know that Don’s new business partner actually helps terrorists kill Jews.

But if it’s just for the money that’s okay!  

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22 minutes ago, MDC said:

My pleasure. Someone who is Very Concerned about anti-Semitic “hate speech” on campus should know that Don’s new business partner actually helps terrorists kill Jews.

But if it’s just for the money that’s okay!  

Not OK, but not indicative that he hates Jews.  Like Mamdani does, ma'am.   

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2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Not OK, but not indicative that he hates Jews.  Like Mamdani does, ma'am.   

No, it doesn’t mean Trump hates Jews. It means his Deep Concern about “hate speech” is entirely fake and designed to rile up rubes.

I think your concern is real though, rube.  

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3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

 

but you support Newsoulini who shut down small business … and closed down parks and beaches

 

Trump did this too

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4 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

derp derp derp, Trump is the most authoritarian ever.  No that was Lincoln

but you support Newsoulini who shut down small business, locked down our schools, and closed down parks and beaches

 

What the hell are you talking about?

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48 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

What the hell are you talking about?

You love California and the governor I’m sure. Who had more lockdowns and authoritarian actions than any other governor 

Lincoln was the most authoritarian president and it’s not even close.  He also won the lowest % of votes of any president 

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Trump did this too

Which areas did Trump close down?  He gave all the power to each governor 

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5 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Which areas did Trump close down?  He gave all the power to each governor 

National parks and museums 

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He gave all the power.  Exactly.

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

National parks and museums 

National parks were not fully shut down by the Trump administration due to COVID-19, but many individual parks implemented closures of roads, facilities, and campgrounds on a park-by-park basis, often in March 2020, in response to the pandemic

. While the Trump administration did not issue a blanket shutdown order for all national parks during the COVID-19 pandemic, the National Park Service (NPS) closed many individual parks and their facilities to the public to prevent the spread of the virus. 

• Park-by-park closures: Instead of a single federal order, individual national parks began to close at different times, starting around March 2020.

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50 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

National parks were not fully shut down by the Trump administration due to COVID-19, but many individual parks implemented closures of roads, facilities, and campgrounds on a park-by-park basis, often in March 2020, in response to the pandemic

. While the Trump administration did not issue a blanket shutdown order for all national parks during the COVID-19 pandemic, the National Park Service (NPS) closed many individual parks and their facilities to the public to prevent the spread of the virus. 

• Park-by-park closures: Instead of a single federal order, individual national parks began to close at different times, starting around March 2020.

Thanks for confirming Trump’s government closed national parks 

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13 hours ago, jerryskids said:

 

And here is metal helmet guy saying SJP doesn't hate Jews or support Hamas.  Well, just their national and a bunch of chapters, but not 10 years ago when Mamdani founded that chapter!  Link to a chapter opposing October 7?  Bless your heart, get some life experience young man.   

I’m sure you’ll be mad that they listed mourning the loss of innocent Palestinian Ives before Israeli, but this is not supporting October 7.  

https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/when-florida-officials-tried-to-silence-our-pro-palestinian-student-group-we-sued

On October 8, our SJP chapter issued its own statement, saying that we “mourned the loss of innocent Palestinian and Israeli life,” and made clear that “the killing of any life is always undignified and heartbreaking.” Later, we issued another statement urging the University of Florida to condemn all violence, antisemitism, Islamophobia, Palestinian erasure, and anti-Palestinian sentiment.

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22 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

He has governed as history's most authoritarian U.S. president, hording power as much as possible.

Him being what you consider centrist doesn't make him any less of a narcissistic a-hole.

You're not a Woman so it makes perfect sense that you'd want a Muslim as Mayor of a US City. 

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7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You're not a Woman so it makes perfect sense that you'd want a Muslim as Mayor of a US City. 

What's wrong with being Muslim? Those Christians who called themselves Branch Davidians didn't have a problem with a cult leader, pedophilia, violence and murder. By your logic we need to condemn all of Christianity for the actions of a few.

 

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16 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

What's wrong with being Muslim? Those Christians who called themselves Branch Davidians didn't have a problem with a cult leader, pedophilia, violence and murder. By your logic we need to condemn all of Christianity for the actions of a few.

 

Read the Quran. That may help you understand 

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9 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Read the Quran. That may help you understand 

Yeah, I'm sure you're a real Rhodes scholar when it comes to the Quran.

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1 minute ago, FrancieFootball said:

Yeah, I'm sure you're a real Rhodes scholar when it comes to the Quran.

Read it and tell me what it says about Woman AND GAYS 

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8 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

Yeah, I'm sure you're a real Rhodes scholar when it comes to the Quran.

Does anyone here seriously believe that he has actually read the Quran outside of some anti-Muslim translation and interpretation? 

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18 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Read it and tell me what it says about Woman AND GAYS 

Why don't you bring all your scholarly ways to bear and shower us with your extensive Quran knowledge.

 

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2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Does anyone here seriously believe that he has actually read the Quran outside of some anti-Muslim translation and interpretation? 

It's all there for everyone to see. Fill me in please. 

Let us know what it specifically says about Women and Gays. 

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Just now, FrancieFootball said:

Why don't you bring all your scholarly ways to bear and shower us with your extensive Quran knowledge.

 

Come back when you learn how to spell.