That time of year again: Camp injury news (Isaiah Likely, Xavier Worthy)

[WhiteWonder 2,762]

18 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I will edit to say in short Kincaid would be a fine backup.  I have no clue where guys are going off hand.   Just seems like some people are waiting on him. It definitely is a make or break year for him.  As of now highly doubt they do the 5th year option.  

off hand

Bowers
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McBride
Kittle
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LaPorta
Hockenson
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Kelce
Andrews (usually is closer to Kelce than the next group but sometimes falls with them)
Loveland (sometimes)
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Engram                  <
Njoku                      < in my opinion this is where you want to live after the top 3 are off the board
Kraft                       <
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Warren
Ferguson
Goedert
Pitts
Kincaid
Jonnu
Henry
Ertz

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Z Moss was released by the Bengals today, C Brown ADP to rise, darn it. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said:

I don't have any disagreements really with much of what you just posted, other than to say Josh Palmer and Elijah Moore are depth retreads at best. Also Keon Coleman is someone I have not been high on since he was drafted. I guess i'd also mention that Knox did next to nothing last year in 16 games despite whatever he is being paid.

Take my word for it. No one is drafting Kincaid as a top 10 fantasy TE right now. There is an area where Andrews, Engram, Njoku and Kraft go in no particular order (usually andrews first though) and while FantasyPros has Kincaid ranked 12th, lots of people are taking Loveland and Warren ahead of him. In the July Mock that is just wrapping up right now, Njoku is my TE1 and I was looking to grab Kincaid as my 2. Goedert shares the same bye as Njoku and Pitts popped before Kincaid. I settled on Ertz so I went with a higher floor but almost zero upside. 

Right on depth retreads.  But Moore did have 61 catches with the lowly Browns last year and isnt 26 yet.  No one is dominating targets there.  But to my point they keep adding WR3s which goes hand in.hand with their philosophy of "everybody eats".   Their phrase not mine.  They are comfortable having Allen, a good OL and waves of decent offensive players.  Hell its true in the RB room to a degree. Cook had 17 TDs last year and didnt play 50% of snaps.  Many times taken out on 3rd.   

Learning that Kincaid isnt really being drafted as a top 12 TE and starter then I guess I have little point.  

I was just pointing out his knee still isnt right and might just be one of these players that is never really that healthy.  I do know/hear of some people still waiting on Kincaid to break out basically just because he was a 1st round pick and entering year 3.  In that offense I just dont see it.  He may have been the oldest TE in his class to boot.   If hes comfortably outside the top 10 in most peoples rankings then that makes sense and maybe didnt realize it.  

It is a bit similar to the Packers pass catchers.  Have some solid talent overall.  They did draft Golden in the 1st.  But they love to spread it around and run the ball.  So Kraft's upside may be stunted as well.  I just think hes a better healthier player than Kincaid.   Allen is certainly plenty good enough, but Id guess Love has more yards and possibly more pass TDs.  Not to mention Bills will be playing a ton from in the lead.   Reasons why I would take Kraft over Kincaid.  

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57 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

off hand

Bowers
-----------------------
McBride
Kittle
-----------------------
LaPorta
Hockenson
------------------------
Kelce
Andrews (usually is closer to Kelce than the next group but sometimes falls with them)
Loveland (sometimes)
------------------------
Engram                  <
Njoku                      < in my opinion this is where you want to live after the top 3 are off the board
Kraft                       <
-------------------------
Warren
Ferguson
Goedert
Pitts
Kincaid
Jonnu
Henry
Ertz

We saw Laporta and Bowers do it in rookie seasons.  But is it a trend or an outlier?  Loveland has 3 WRs and Caleb Williams to contend with.   

I dont understand the Warren hype and I may be dead wrong but dont see it.  Not to mention he plays for the Colts.  I guess at least hes going to play a lot of snaps which could mean auto catches.   

I love the draft and follow prospects quite a bit.   I was sort of shocked with how Warren and Loveland were rated.   Are people chasing a Bowers?   Warren was absolutely force fed last season.  

[WhiteWonder 2,762]

1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

We saw Laporta and Bowers do it in rookie seasons.  But is it a trend or an outlier?  Loveland has 3 WRs and Caleb Williams to contend with.   

I dont understand the Warren hype and I may be dead wrong but dont see it.  Not to mention he plays for the Colts.  I guess at least hes going to play a lot of snaps which could mean auto catches.   

I love the draft and follow prospects quite a bit.   I was sort of shocked with how Warren and Loveland were rated.   Are people chasing a Bowers?   Warren was absolutely force fed last season.  

Could be people chasing Bowers but Warren is also not being drafted as a starting TE. I think people understand his situation on the Colts (not to say Bowers situation was any better). 
Loveland is the guy being drafted as a TE1. I can only assume this is because of Ben Johnson and the idea that Caleb will take a step forward. Plus no WR there has proven anything outside DJ as far as I’m concerned.