All lies and no truths.

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I agree that politicians lie, all of them of course.  What we really need is media that calls it out.  And right now we have a rather partisan media establishment.

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6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I agree that politicians lie, all of them of course.  What we really need is media that calls it out.  And right now we have a rather partisan media establishment.

The problem is. If someone were to start a true non partisan media outlet.

Each side would call them partisan when they attack the other side. 

I have had people call me a liberal here for attacking the right  

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Just now, edjr said:

The problem is. If someone were to start a true non partisan media outlet.

Each side would call them partisan when they attack the other side. 

I have had people call me a liberal here for attacking the right  

I think media, as we grew up with it, is currently failing.  And it might not come back.   The only outlet that seems to be doing well is Fox, due mostly to them lying less than any other outlet.

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MAGAs got a problem with lying now.  

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

MAGAs got a problem with lying now.  

And now I'm a maga     See what I mean? @RLLD

I detest MAGA's and Trump is a vile human being. He's not the worst POTUS we've ever had.

The wokies are the worst

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Just now, edjr said:

And now I'm a maga     See what I mean? @RLLD

I marvel that a liberal would dare to speak about anyone else lying after the Russian Collusion hoax, the impeachment hoax, the inflation denial and lies, the Biden is fine lies....on and on.....while both sides lie....liberals seem to lack any self control at all when it comes to lying, even on this forum.....liberals distinguish themselves as degenerate liars....

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3 minutes ago, edjr said:

And now I'm a maga     See what I mean? @RLLD

I detest MAGA's and Trump is a vile human being. He's not the worst POTUS we've ever had.

The wokies are the worst

Trump isn’t the worst POTUS we've ever had, but he’s the biggest liar and it’s not even close.

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

Trump isn’t the worst POTUS we've ever had, but he’s the biggest liar and it’s not even close.

Name a politician in 2025 that doesn't lie? Trump is an insecure narcissist . 

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Trump isn’t the worst POTUS we've ever had, but he’s the biggest liar and it’s not even close.

If y'all could stop crying long enough to open your eyes, you'd probably see that he's actually doing some really good things for the future of America. 

You'll never admit it of course but that's truth. 

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3 minutes ago, edjr said:

Name a politician in 2025 that doesn't lie? Trump is an insecure narcissist . 

Moreover, Biden was a worse liar than Trump.....

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3 minutes ago, edjr said:

Name a politician in 2025 that doesn't lie? Trump is an insecure narcissist . 

They all lie. Trump is just the world champion of liars. 

His supporters love Daddy anyway.  

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Just now, MDC said:

His supporters love Daddy anyway

You voted for Kamala   

You may want to look down and check yourself. 

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16 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think media, as we grew up with it, is currently failing.  And it might not come back.   The only outlet that seems to be doing well is Fox, due mostly to them lying less than any other outlet.

Fox is lying less than CBS, NBC, ABC? 

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3 minutes ago, squistion said:

Fox is lying less than CBS, NBC, ABC? 

100%  correct. Still lying, but not nearly as often or with as much impact as those others. 

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20 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think media, as we grew up with it, is currently failing.  And it might not come back.   The only outlet that seems to be doing well is Fox, due mostly to them lying less than any other outlet.

Hard to outlie the left. but fauxnews lies as well. 

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9 minutes ago, MDC said:

They all lie. Trump is just the world champion of liars. 

His supporters love Daddy anyway.  

It is very odd how much some people love him. I found it odd how much people loved the Messiah Obama too. As I always say, Both far left and far right are focked in the head

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I’ve noticed Newsom is becoming more and more a target of the extreme right. A good sign. 

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2 minutes ago, edjr said:

Hard to outlie the left. but fauxnews lies as well. 

They absolutely do, you have to check them on everything just as you do those other outlets, it just so happens they lie a little less.

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2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

100%  correct. Still lying, but not nearly as often or with as much impact as those others. 

I sure that is not close to being correct at all if one were to do a fact check of truth and accuracy in news reporting comparing Fox with the big three networks.

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2 minutes ago, edjr said:

It is very odd how much some people love him. 

Agreed. They call him Father, buy his high tops and cologne, and created a fantasy novel where he does battle with the Deep State. 

It’s so gay.  

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Just now, squistion said:

I sure that is not close to being correct at all if one were to do a fact check of truth and accuracy in news reporting comparing Fox with the big three networks.

It might be hard to do a study, but if we look at things like the russian hoax, inflation, bidens cognitive decline, crime....we see that on the big things that really matter.....Fox reports the truth more often. Not perfect, but more reliable than the others....for now....   still have to fact check them just as much

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

Agreed. They call him Father, buy his high tops and cologne, and created a fantasy novel where he does battle with the Deep State. 

It’s so gay.  

he 100% has a tiny peemus

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Just now, RLLD said:

It might be hard to do a study, but if we look at things like the russian hoax, inflation, bidens cognitive decline, crime....we see that on the big things that really matter.....Fox reports the truth more often. Not perfect, but more reliable than the others....for now....   still have to fact check them just as much

So if we cherry pick selected news items, Fox reports the truth more often, lol 

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1 minute ago, RLLD said:

It might be hard to do a study

Pointless too. Trump and MAGAs would say it’s fake news if the results weren’t what they wanted. Like he did with the BLS jobs report. 

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19 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think media, as we grew up with it, is currently failing.  And it might not come back.   The only outlet that seems to be doing well is Fox, due mostly to them lying less than any other outlet.

 Foxnews is off the charts with bias. Lies, who knows how many, lies of omission..endless. And just dumb coverage. Todays lead story is about a "Mob of 100 bikers in Dem run city". 20 yr olds or so on their bicycles. No one hurt, just some traffic nuisance. There is no reason to run this "story". It is not a story. Its Foxnews slapping a smearing headline so their moronic mouthbreathing readers can get some Dem bashing high. CNN at least has many R commentators, Fox has one.

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Just now, squistion said:

So if we cherry pick selected news items, Fox reports the truth more often, lol 

Conversely, we could do the same in the other direction.

But by way of example, I have no doubt you could pluck up some falsehood Trump has uttered, as we likely could with any politician.   But will I care?  Probably not, unless its something tangible....like the Russian Collusion hoax that cost us so much money and impacted the Trump presidency, or  inflation that we will spend the next decade fighting, or Bidens decline that appears to have allowed his staff to run amoke....

Look I get it, you want your ideological opponents to somehow be worse that your own, but so far.....they are not....

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2 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

 Foxnews is off the charts with bias.

They are the only right leaning network. They have a lot of work to do to catch up to all the others. 

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3 minutes ago, MDC said:

Pointless too. Trump and MAGAs would say it’s fake news if the results weren’t what they wanted. Like he did with the BLS jobs report. 

I cannot be sure it would be pointless, I have to assume you are lying....because you are a degenerate liar....so it is more than likely true that is would NOT be pointless, based purely on your inclination to lie.  And projecting what liberal media does every day toward Fox is not going to sway me.  I have called the jobs report absolute garbage and unreliable for years, but given your propensity to lie at every turn....now I have to question that as well

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3 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

 Foxnews is off the charts with bias. Lies, who knows how many, lies of omission..endless. And just dumb coverage. Todays lead story is about a "Mob of 100 bikers in Dem run city". 20 yr olds or so on their bicycles. No one hurt, just some traffic nuisance. There is no reason to run this "story". It is not a story. Its Foxnews slapping a smearing headline so their moronic mouthbreathing readers can get some Dem bashing high. CNN at least has many R commentators, Fox has one.

At no time did I suggest Fox news does not have a bias ,instead I affirmed it from the start.

They also lie as does the rest of media, it just so happens that in recent years, the rest of media has been worse.  Pretending otherwise is just lying to yourself.

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Just now, RLLD said:

At no time did I suggest Fox news does not have a bias ,instead I affirmed it from the start.

They also lie as does the rest of media, it just so happens that in recent years, the rest of media has been worse.  Pretending otherwise is just lying to yourself.

You have no proof of that whatsoever, but carry on with your delusion.

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2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I cannot be sure it would be pointless, I have to assume you are lying....because you are a degenerate liar....so it is more than likely true that is would NOT be pointless, based purely on your inclination to lie.  And projecting what liberal media does every day toward Fox is not going to sway me.  I have called the jobs report absolute garbage and unreliable for years, but given your propensity to lie at every turn....now I have to question that as well

If the study didn’t give you the results you wanted, you’d just say it’s fake and you were right anyway. Like you did with the 2 Biden investigations and Trump’s approval rating.  

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1 minute ago, RLLD said:

At no time did I suggest Fox news does not have a bias ,instead I affirmed it from the start.

They also lie as does the rest of media, it just so happens that in recent years, the rest of media has been worse.  Pretending otherwise is just lying to yourself.

no ray, if you don't believe what I tell you, you are just lying to yourself

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1 minute ago, squistion said:

You have no proof of that whatsoever, but carry on with your delusion.

That is a fair point, other than highlighting what I already have....some of the most prominent new items of the last 8 years or so....when the rest of media clearly lied while Fox clearly told the truth.....hell, remember when media was telling you tariffs was going to create all this damage....yeah, they lied to you....again.

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

If the study didn’t give you the results you wanted, you’d just say it’s fake and you were right anyway. Like you did with the 2 Biden investigations and Trump’s approval rating.  

I think lying about me, pretending what I would do, seems in line with your cowardice, so its somewhat predictable.  It you said the sky was blue, I would need to confirm with two more people....that is how much of a liar you are

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2 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

no ray, if you don't believe what I tell you, you are just lying to yourself

Of course, the liberal "rubber glue" argument......   I accept your surrender

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1 minute ago, RLLD said:

That is a fair point, other than highlighting what I already have....some of the most prominent new items of the last 8 years or so....when the rest of media clearly lied while Fox clearly told the truth.....hell, remember when media was telling you tariffs was going to create all this damage....yeah, they lied to you....again.

The jury is still out on the impact of the tariffs as Trump has kept postponing and advancing the effective dates. We should see if a few months if the media lied or exaggerated the impact of the tariffs.

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Just now, squistion said:

The jury is still out on the impact of the tariffs

Yeah, so you and @Ron_Artest & @Sandy Loam need to shut the F up and stop acting like toddlers. 

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1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Of course, the liberal "rubber glue" argument......   I accept your surrender

you had an argument? looked you just said other media is worse cause you said so.