U.S. Military and boat strikes thread - Was The Follow-Up Boat Strike a War Crime?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,944]

That idiot Mark Kelly out there spewing lies. He ought to be brought in front of a tribunal and stripped of rank and thrown in the Brig. 

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

That's all very subjective, you should know that. 

We have ongoing military operations within the borders of probably 20 countries right now that you have no idea about. 

This should not surprise anyone. 

We just struck Somalia. No one here or really much of America cares, but of course. There’s a report that just came out that we tried to implant eavesdropping on Kim Jong Un, & Koreans were killed….. etc. But every operation stems from an agency and/or military unit, and they all have lawyers & IGs, whom btw Trump has been firing as fast as they pop up. Yes even covert ops have legal justifications & memos, or at least they have since the Church Commission. At any rate, we’re talking war here, which isn’t some grey/black situation.

[Ron_Artest 2,348]

6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Shut up snowflake. 

Who defended child rape? 

You.

You support the trump cover up of Epstein.

[Ron_Artest 2,348]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That idiot Mark Kelly out there spewing lies. He ought to be brought in front of a tribunal and stripped of rank and thrown in the Brig. 

What lie?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,944]

15 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

We just struck Somalia. No one here or really much of America cares, but of course. There’s a report that just came out that we tried to implant eavesdropping on Kim Jong Un, & Koreans were killed….. etc. But every operation stems from an agency and/or military unit, and they all have lawyers & IGs, whom btw Trump has been firing as fast as they pop up. Yes even covert ops have legal justifications & memos, or at least they have since the Church Commission. At any rate, we’re talking war here, which isn’t some grey/black situation.

It just started in January I guess.

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It just started in January I guess.

The Church Commission was late 70s IIRC.

[Maximum Overkill 2,553]

21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You.

You support the trump cover up of Epstein.

No I don't. When did I say that?

You little lying biatch. 

[Ron_Artest 2,348]

23 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

No I don't. When did I say that?

You little lying biatch. 

From the Epstein thread...

On 11/19/2025 at 10:11 AM, Maximum Overkill said:

He's (Trump) amazing, an American Patriot. 

 

 

[Maximum Overkill 2,553]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

From the Epstein thread...

 

I don't know that he's a Pedo. 

Still never said it. Why did you lie???

[Maximum Overkill 2,553]

49 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You.

You support the trump cover up of Epstein.

You said that you like touching little boys. 

Since you wanna go there. 

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

Trump: “I wouldn’t have wanted a 2nd strike.”

[Maximum Overkill 2,553]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trump: “I wouldn’t have wanted a 2nd strike.”

There will be an internal investigation within the Department. There always is in these situations. 

Free from Trump or Hegseth. 

Just so you know how this works. 

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

There will be an internal investigation within the Department. There always is in these situations. 

Free from Trump or Hegseth. 

Just so you know how this works. 

Thank you, I agree. However iirc Trump/SOD fired the prior DOD lawyers & IG who were reviewing war planning. And also Iirc there’s already a legal memo about all this. And - Iirc - Chief of Southern Command resigned when all this was happening, which is a hell of a thing.

[Ron_Artest 2,348]

22 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I don't know that he's a Pedo. 

Still never said it. Why did you lie???

You said the guy that is covering up the pedo ring is an American Patriot.

[Ron_Artest 2,348]

13 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trump: “I wouldn’t have wanted a 2nd strike.”

Trump turning on Hegseth.  Good.  He has to go.

[Maximum Overkill 2,553]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You said the guy that is covering up the pedo ring is an American Patriot.

I said RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES. You're a kid toucher, you perv. 

[squistion 2,609]

From NYT subcriber content:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/30/us/politics/trump-boat-strikes-war-crime.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20251201&instance_id=167294&nl=the-morning&regi_id=125207237&segment_id=211615&user_id=14502a7228c5a9b835a15627514bfe28

Lawmakers Suggest Follow-Up Boat Strike Could Be a War Crime

A top Republican and Democrats in Congress suggested on Sunday that American military officials might have committed a war crime in President Trump’s offensive against boats in the Caribbean after a news report said that during one such attack, a follow-up strike was ordered to kill survivors.

The remarks came in response to a Washington Post report on Friday that said that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth had given a verbal order to kill everyone aboard boats suspected of smuggling drugs, and that this led a military commander to carry out a second strike to kill those who had initially survived an attack in early September.

“Obviously if that occurred, that would be very serious, and I agree that that would be an illegal act,” Representative Mike Turner, Republican of Ohio and a former chairman of the Intelligence Committee, said on “Face the Nation” on CBS.

Senator Tim Kaine, Democrat of Virginia, said on CBS that if the report was accurate, the attack “rises to the level of a war crime.” And on CNN, when asked if he believed a second strike to kill survivors constituted a war crime, Senator Mark Kelly, Democrat of Arizona, answered, “It seems to.”

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[Fnord 2,603]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

A top Republican and Democrats in Congress suggested on Sunday that American military officials might have committed a war crime...

“Obviously if that occurred, that would be very serious, and I agree that that would be an illegal act,” Representative Mike Turner, Republican of Ohio and a former chairman of the Intelligence Committee, said on “Face the Nation” on CBS.

Senator Tim Kaine, Democrat of Virginia, said on CBS that if the report was accurate, the attack “rises to the level of a war crime.” And on CNN, when asked if he believed a second strike to kill survivors constituted a war crime, Senator Mark Kelly, Democrat of Arizona, answered, “It seems to.”

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You'll notice the carefully hedged language being used here. Lots of "ifs" and "woulds" as opposed to "did's" and "are's"

This is how well-measured, balanced responses are worded. Then compare it to everything DJT says, which is typically worded in untrue absolutes, with no reference or deference to investigation, enforcement, or legality.

The Don is unfit. I look forward to the impeachment proceedings.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,944]

3 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Thank you, I agree. However iirc Trump/SOD fired the prior DOD lawyers & IG who were reviewing war planning. And also Iirc there’s already a legal memo about all this. And - Iirc - Chief of Southern Command resigned when all this was happening, which is a hell of a thing.

What was the outcome of the investigation into the Biden admin blowing that family up? 

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What was the outcome of the investigation into the Biden admin blowing that family up? 

Sorry in all seriousness- do you mean Awlaki? Or something else? TIA.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,944]

6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Sorry in all seriousness- do you mean Awlaki? Or something else? TIA.

I get it, there were so many. Some of them were even reported.  You must have missed it, didn’t matter then. 

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

I get it, there were so many. Some of them were even reported.  You must have missed it, didn’t matter then. 

Pick one, just trying to answer your question. Awlaki was under Obama.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,944]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Pick one, just trying to answer your question. Awlaki was under Obama.

I didn’t say Obama. I clearly wrote Biden. Wow, you just prove that you really DGAF, it’s just more TDS. Sad. 

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I didn’t say Obama. I clearly wrote Biden. 

I’m just asking for clarification. Glad to help.

The Obama administration did rely on a legal memo in the Awlaki strike.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,944]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I’m just asking for clarification. Glad to help.

The Obama administration did rely on a legal memo in the Awlaki strike.

Listen Walz, I didn’t mention Obama. You can go now. You clearly cannot converse. 

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Listen Walz, I didn’t mention Obama. You can go now. You clearly cannot converse. 

Ok so you raised something & you can’t recall what specific event it was. It’s not a problem.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,944]

3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok so you raised something & you can’t recall what specific event it was. It’s not a problem.

I can easily recall it. Yet you can’t.  Why is that? 

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I can easily recall it. Yet you can’t.  Why is that? 

Give me a location? Syria? Afghanistan? Europe?

[TimHauck 3,349]

2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok so you raised something & you can’t recall what specific event it was. It’s not a problem.

I assume he’s referring to this, which we admitted was a mistake then helped relocate the surviving victims to the US:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_2021_Kabul_drone_strike

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I assume he’s referring to this, which we admitted was a mistake then helped relocate the surviving victims to the US:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_2021_Kabul_drone_strike

Thank you.

1. There was a Defense Dept IG report.

2. There were 2 Congressional authorizations behind military action (Afghanistan & GWOT).

3. The commander apologized.

4. The US paid compensation.

5. The SecDef ordered a review & corrections in policy.

Instead of doing any of this (heh, dozen strikes, almost a hundred dead now, multiple countries affected) Hegseth said ‘Hell yes I ordered the code red.’

[Hardcore troubadour 15,944]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Thank you.

1. There was a Defense Dept IG report.

2. There were 2 Congressional authorizations behind military action (Afghanistan & GWOT).

3. The commander apologized.

4. The US paid compensation.

5. The SecDef ordered a review & corrections in policy.

Instead of doing any of this (heh, dozen strikes, almost a hundred dead now, multiple countries affected) Hegseth said ‘Hell yes I ordered the code red.’

 Boy you remembered that quick! All those details! What a fraud 

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Boy you remembered that quick! All those details! What a fraud 

Looked it up. Thanks for the comp though, I agree it’s a good example.

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

I do believe we are now at the TACO / not gonna TACO stage.

[Mike Honcho 5,493]

19 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I do believe we are now at the TACO / not gonna TACO stage.

 

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The meeting, which is expected to take place at 5 p.m. ET in the Oval Office, comes as the United States has increased pressure on Venezuela with strikes on drug vessels and a military asset buildup in the Caribbean. The US military has amassed more than a dozen warships and 15,000 troops in the region as part of what the Pentagon has branded “Operation Southern Spear.”

You know it's serious if DTJ is willing to work late. 

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

15K troops in the Caribbean. SMDH.

[SaintsInDome2006 730]

In which a Tomahawk had to protect itself from 2 men floating in the water.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,944]

How many posts in a row are you going to make? Go Outside.