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Regardless of what anyone may think of a certain team or conference, bottom line is that the BCS rankings take into account the current polls and strength of schedule, they do not inherantly count the year or two prior (USC's win streak) or up coming schedule (UT having their tough games done for the most part vs USC having Cal and UCLA).

 

Yes the BCS is a joke, but it has nothing to do with UT being higher. To this point they've had a much tougher schedule (USC's biggest win is vs a 2 loss team, ND whereas UT has also beaten a highly regarded 2 loss team as well as a one loss team that was ranked #7 at the time).

 

 

Oh, and by the way, make fun of OSU for losing to Penn St. all you want, but ND lost to MichState, so if you want to take that into account, it doesn't help the cause too much.

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Georgia or Alabama could beat USC. As a matter of fact, so could LSU and Auburn. If USC gets lucky, the BCS will fail again, and they will not have to play a SEC team like last year. Auburn would have waxed them, no doubt.

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Georgia or Alabama could beat USC.

are you kidding me? this is one of the dumbest things ive read on this board. georgia and bama can barely even beat arkansas and ole miss by a field goal each the last two weeks.

 

anyone who thinks that one of these teams is going to finish the season is only kidding themselves. also va tech is not making it through their next 3 games untouched, and i wouldnt be surprised at all to see them lose more than one game.

 

could be an interesting scenario if ucla somehow beat usc because imo usc with one loss would still be higher in the bcs and could be in the championship anyways. :wall:

 

what i think will happen though is that miami will win out and move up to #3 in the BCS -- and then when texas loses this season, which they will at some point probably to a&m, then miami will be in the championship. usc isnt losing again. even if they lose once, they'll be a one loss team in the championship.

 

my beef with the computer rankigns is the retarded computer polls. where do they get these anyways?! one poll has usc 5 and miami like 14. another poll has minnesota 14, as if those two teams are at all comprable (and im a gopher homer). throw out the computer bs, just let people vote if you cant do playoffs. now that MOV and SOS arent in the formula, the rest of it is crap.

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Texas has no good teams left on its schedule while USC still has Cal and UCLA. If USC wins out they'll jump in front of Texas. Of course as long as you're in the top two it doesn't matter if you're 1 or 2. I'm just hoping for 4 undefeated teams so college football looks like a joke yet again. <_<

Let's see, Texas beat #4 OSU and #7 Texas Tech and Oklahoma at a nuetral site.

 

The Pac 10 is a joke outside of USC.

 

 

 

 

TEXAS #1 :cheers:

Let's see..... USC has won the past 28 in a row including destroying a very good Michigan team 2 years ago in a BCS Bowl and Crushing the "best ever Oklahoma Team" (according to the college experts) in a BCS game last year.

 

Reality..... Young goes down and Texas folds like a Deck of Cards...seasons over!!!! :lol: If USC lost Leinert & Bush... they still have the depth & talent finish undefeated with Booty & White! :wall:

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other awful computer ranking jobs...

  • Florida State at #18 in one poll with only one loss in tough ACC
  • Oregon at #24 in one poll with only loss against USC, and at #6 in two other polls
  • Notre Dame #20 or lower in all six polls
  • Texas Tech #8, 9 and 10 in three computer polls even after that shallacking
  • Wisconsin with a gift win and a loss to northwestern at #5 in one poll above undefeated UCLA and Bama
  • TCU ranked #13 in three polls and #23 or lower in the other three
  • Michigan and its three losses at #15 in one poll

what a joke.

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and then when texas loses this season, which they will at some point probably to a&m

Now that's the dumbest thing I've read in this forum. a&m nearly lost to Southwest Texas (those from Texas can understand what that means). Texas will hang 50 on 'em at College Station.

 

I feel bad for Va. Tech. But anyone who thinks USC and Texas aren't playing for the championship is delusional. Seriously, quiet down.

 

Our defense is grown.

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Let's see..... USC has won the past 28 in a row including destroying a very good Michigan team 2 years ago in a BCS Bowl and Crushing the "best ever Oklahoma Team" (according to the college experts) in a BCS game last year.

 

Reality..... Young goes down and Texas folds like a Deck of Cards...seasons over!!!! :blink: If USC lost Leinert & Bush... they still have the depth & talent finish undefeated with Booty & White! :unsure:

What year is this? 2003? 2004?

 

Fear Texas. It's our year.

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here is one of the six computers' top 25 list...

 

1 - texas

2 - bama

3 - georgia

4 - va tech

5 - usc :unsure:

6 - psu

7 - ucla

8 - wisconsin

9 - oregon

10 - lsu

11 - wvu

12 - osu

13 - bc

14 - tcu :blink:

15 - miami

16 - fsu

17 - northwestern :lol:

18 - minn

19 - t tech

20 - stanford :blink:

21 - michigan

22 - colorado

23 - notre dame

24 - florida

25 - missouri :blink:

26 - utep :blink:

27 - oklahoma :blink:

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USC has won the past 28 in a row including destroying a very good Michigan team 2 years ago in a BCS Bowl and Crushing the "best ever Oklahoma Team" (according to the college experts) in a BCS game last year

 

That very good Michigan team was a joke if I remember correctly and didn't LSU beat that same OU team in the sugar bowl (the real championship game)?

 

Georgia or Alabama could beat USC. As a matter of fact, so could LSU and Auburn

 

I think what this guy meant to say was that if USC played Georgia, Bama, LSU and Auburn back to back (as they would in SEC play), they would lose at least one game. USC is good but they would not go undefeated in the SEC. People keep stating that one of the reasons why USC is good is because the beat Arizona St. LSU beat them in a second half come back just like USC did. A guy also pointed out that USC beat Arkansas by 70, big deal, they don't have an SEC win this year, they lost to Vandy, come on. Bottom line college football needs a playoff, every champion will be a paper champion until that happens.

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Georgia or Alabama could beat USC. As a matter of fact, so could LSU and Auburn. If USC gets lucky, the BCS will fail again, and they will not have to play a SEC team like last year. Auburn would have waxed them, no doubt.

You need to stick to hop-scotch because you know less about football than a retarded monkey.

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A guy also pointed out that USC beat Arkansas by 70, big deal, they don't have an SEC win this year, they lost to Vandy, come on.

vandy is a potential bowl team and started off undefeated. also georgia, the team that guy thinks could beat usc, just survived by 3 against arkansas this week.

 

3 or 70, you make the call.

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A guy also pointed out that USC beat Arkansas by 70, big deal, they don't have an SEC win this year, they lost to Vandy, come on.

vandy is a potential bowl team and started off undefeated. also georgia, the team that guy thinks could beat usc, just survived by 3 against arkansas this week.

 

3 or 70, you make the call.

Arkansas is bad. Vandy whipped 'em. Georgia and Bama are skating on thin ice.

 

Hard to say if the SEC is that tough or if all the teams are simply good, not great.

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Dudes, it is only 2nd week of BCS.

 

just remember that Texas virtually has faced 2 ranked teams (Ohio St.

and Texas tech) while USC has faced and will face several ranked teams

such as Cal and UCLA.

 

BCS will take care of itself at the end.

 

Beside, even USC get ranked 2nd, they will still get into Rose Bowl

and probably would beat the crap out of Texas. No team can match the

SHEER offensive firepowers of USC in Leinart, Bush, White, Smith,

Byrd, Jarrett, and their mammoth Offensive lines (One of the best in

the entire nation). Beside, Vince Young can't even pass well as

advertised.

 

I admitted that Texas has a better defense than USC but it can be change like Oklahoma last year (they were good defensive team until at the end, they collapsed!). And please dont give me the crap on Texas Tech's offensive firepower. USC's offense clearly IS a JUGGERNAUT. The only thing that stop them are dumb penalties (which is easily correctable with several practices per weeks).

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Beside, even USC get ranked 2nd, they will still get into Rose Bowl

and probably would beat the crap out of Texas. No team can match the

SHEER offensive firepowers of USC in Leinart, Bush, White, Smith,

Byrd, Jarrett, and their mammoth Offensive lines (One of the best in

the entire nation). Beside, Vince Young can't even pass well as

advertised.

 

I admitted that Texas has a better defense than USC but it can be change like Oklahoma last year (they were good defensive team until at the end, they collapsed!). And please dont give me the crap on Texas Tech's offensive firepower. USC's offense clearly IS a JUGGERNAUT. The only thing that stop them are dumb penalties (which is easily correctable with several practices per weeks).

Some inane comments in this thread but I will repond to the latest.

 

Vince Young is a very good passer, not sure which advertisement you are watching.

 

Texas' Defense is much better than ou's of last year, USC was on fire last year in the championship, guys catching balls on the ground.

 

Tech's offense, at least was #1 in the country. They can only play who is on their schedule.

 

Notre Dame all but matched usc's juggernut, as usc squeaked a win outta that one.

 

Are you saying they don't practice several times a week? Get real dude.

 

I am looking forward to a matchup on the field, I don't see usc stopping Texas a whole lot, I do see Texas stopping usc more than not. Lots of games to be played. As long as Texas and usc win out, they will be 1-2 in the BCS. They are obviously 1-2 best teams in the country. So it is working this year.

 

I would prefer to have a playoff system. But the only argument I can see valid for the bcs is that the whole season is a playoff, one loss and you are out. Unless everyone else has a loss, then it is a big mess again.

 

HOOK 'EM

 

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Unless USC or Texas stumbles, VT is gonna be on the outside looking in.

i doubt it...the quality wins will be on the side of VT.

 

the ACC is much tougher than either the little 12 and the wac-10 :thumbsup:

Sorry Hokies, but if Texas wins out and USC wins out, it's USC and Texas for the glass football. No way around it.

 

Yes, the Big XII is weak this year. Part of the problem is UT keeps beating teams so badly.

texas's schedule is as soft as they come... :unsure:

The Longhorns have beaten 5 current top-25 teams (only 1 in the top-15), more than the 5 other undefeated teams combined.

Waiting for the Texas haters to reply to this one.

 

Seems we're almost hurting ourselves by beating everyone so badly.

Its just like being a Cowboys fan, no one gives us credit for anything. When it comes down to game time, Young wins it.

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Unless USC or Texas stumbles, VT is gonna be on the outside looking in.

i doubt it...the quality wins will be on the side of VT.

 

the ACC is much tougher than either the little 12 and the wac-10 :blink:

Sorry Hokies, but if Texas wins out and USC wins out, it's USC and Texas for the glass football. No way around it.

 

Yes, the Big XII is weak this year. Part of the problem is UT keeps beating teams so badly.

texas's schedule is as soft as they come... :banana:

Exactly how many top 10 teams has VT beaten this year? That's what I thought. Texas has proven that they should be a top 2 team...period.

the season isn't over jackass...VT still has the canes and fsu on their schedule.

Actually, there is an outside chance that VT and Texas would be in the championship game even if USC finishes #1 in the human polls. Imagine the uproar.

 

VT will likely have the strongest stength of schedule for these 3 teams by year end (FSU, MIA, and BC on the schedule). Texas's SOS is better than USC's. So even if USC is #1 in the human polls, the computers and quality wins could easily overcome that amount.

 

I have a suspision that my beloved Hokies and USC will each lose a game. Late losses kill you in the human polls. So Texas might be meeting up with Bama or Georgia. :ph34r:

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The Pac 10 is a joke outside of USC.

Pac 10 a joke?!?!?!

Any team can beat anyone on any given day in the pac10.

USC- defending champs

Cal- one of the best in the nation at running- only two losses. One to undefeated UCLA, and one to underrated Oregon State

Oregon- Very balanced, good team. Hurts to say.

Oregon State- underrated. tough schedule

Arizona State- Lost to LSU, USC, and Oregon. That's tough.

UCLA- undefeated with one of the best players in the nation in Drew

 

How can you say Pac10 is a joke? Have you seen your own conference?

 

Pac-10 :thumbsdown:

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The computer polls are BS.

 

The BCS is stupid. They obviously know there is controversy regarding their rankings. Well where does this controversy come from? 2 things: 1, undefeated teams not getting a chance at a title, and 2, the BCS rankings come out different than what the public believes is right. Well where does the public, for the most part, base it's opinion on who deserves to play for the title? The two national polls.

 

Solution: get rid of the piece of crap, east-coast biased computer rankings, and just use the main 2 polls. The points awarded for those polls are not the rankings themselves, but are based on the actual votes, so it's already more exact. Also, does the BCS think that the coaches and writers are clueless and don't consider SOS and therefore include the computer rankings? That's just idiotic.

 

BTW, winner of UCLA and USC will play Texas in the Rose Bowl. Obviously if USC wins, they'll likely go, unfortunately because the BCS is BS, if UCLA goes undefeated and in doing so becomes the first team to beat the defending champs in 30+ games, they will likely get jacked out of an opportunity to win the national title.

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I love the pundits who pound their fist yelling that college football needs a four team playoff and use last year as an example and say after the bowls USC should have played Auburn. What happens when 1) there are five undefeated teams or 2) there are two or three undefeated teams and three or four one loss teams. Shipes. Do these people just yell to yell with no forsight to see that a four team playoff is NOT the answer. Shut the F*CK up already.

Whoever asks for a 4 team playoff isn't a true sports fan. In all of the great sports there is multiple rounds to build the hype. It is funny when you compare college football & college basketball. Everybody and their mother does a bracket for basketball. In football the only people who care are those who went to/lived near a school. In basketball there are dozens of small schools that the whole country is rooting for. Do you think you would have heard of Gonzaga if basketball followed the same rating system as football.

 

Until there is a real playoff I will lump college football in with all of the other sports that get their winners through voting- figure skating, gymnastics, diving...

 

But you won't get that because the money in the bowl games will always win out over the fans.

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Anyone remember last year when Mack Brown lobbied for Texas to get into the Rose Bowl. I said it then and I will say it now, if your coach don't take up for you who will? The Cal QB cried and everyone was in an uproar about it. The kicker is that Cal went to the Holiday Bowl and got smacked by a 2nd tier Big 12 team, Texas Tech. I made a killin on the money line, I saw that one comin from a mile away. I guess the Cal coach knew where he belonged. While Texas won the Rose Bowl. :cry: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Virgina Tech will lose a game before December, if they don't they will be in a top bowl. So long as usc and TEXAS, win out, which they should, they are obviously the top 2 teams in the country and deserve the title game. I do wish there was a playoff.

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The Pac 10 is a joke outside of USC.

Pac 10 a joke?!?!?!

Any team can beat anyone on any given day in the pac10.

USC- defending champs

Cal- one of the best in the nation at running- only two losses. One to undefeated UCLA, and one to underrated Oregon State

Oregon- Very balanced, good team. Hurts to say.

Oregon State- underrated. tough schedule

Arizona State- Lost to LSU, USC, and Oregon. That's tough.

UCLA- undefeated with one of the best players in the nation in Drew

 

How can you say Pac10 is a joke? Have you seen your own conference?

 

Pac-10 :wall:

;) :wub: :banana: :thumbsup: :clap: :cheers: :first:

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I love the pundits who pound their fist yelling that college football needs a four team playoff and use last year as an example and say after the bowls USC should have played Auburn. What happens when 1) there are five undefeated teams or 2) there are two or three undefeated teams and three or four one loss teams. Shipes. Do these people just yell to yell with no forsight to see that a four team playoff is NOT the answer. Shut the F*CK up already.

:( You have got to be the dumbest focktard ever. :angry:

Please tell me when was the last time there were 5 undefeated teams?

During that year, how many of those undefeated teams were from BS conferences (excluding the PAC-10)?

Why should I care that a one loss team gets left out of the 4 team playoff? Running the table in a major conference and getting left out is fundementally unfair. All of those one loss teams could have gone undefeated and left no doubt.

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You guys really miss the point. 5 undefeated teams does NOT make the BCS look bad. The BCS was created to help decide which two teams go if 5 are undefeated. If there are only two undefeated teams, and the BCS puts in a couple teams with 1 loss, THEN it looks stupid. But forcing it to pick between undefeated teams is what it is meant to do.

 

The lack of playoffs is dumb. If there were only two undefeated teams every year, we wouldn't need the BCS. The BCS is a stupid solution to a problem with a simple solution. PLAYOFFS.

 

It's not the computers, its the focktards who put in a 1-game postseason.

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Dudes, it is only 2nd week of BCS.

 

just remember that Texas virtually has faced 2 ranked teams (Ohio St.

and Texas tech) while USC has faced and will face several ranked teams

such as Cal and UCLA.

 

BCS will take care of itself at the end.

 

Beside, even USC get ranked 2nd, they will still get into Rose Bowl

and probably would beat the crap out of Texas. No team can match the

SHEER offensive firepowers of USC in Leinart, Bush, White, Smith,

Byrd, Jarrett, and their mammoth Offensive lines (One of the best in

the entire nation). Beside, Vince Young can't even pass well as

advertised.

 

I admitted that Texas has a better defense than USC but it can be change like Oklahoma last year (they were good defensive team until at the end, they collapsed!). And please dont give me the crap on Texas Tech's offensive firepower. USC's offense clearly IS a JUGGERNAUT. The only thing that stop them are dumb penalties (which is easily correctable with several practices per weeks).

If USC is so dominant, why the slow starts in some games and near defeat to a Notre Dame team that lost to Michigan State? Wouldn't a truly dominant team take care of business for four quarters? What's the best defense they've played so far?

 

We wouldn't even be having this discussion if Bush didn't shove old broken down Leinart into the endzone.

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Beside, even USC get ranked 2nd, they will still get into Rose Bowl

and probably would beat the crap out of Texas.  No team can match the

SHEER offensive firepowers of USC in Leinart, Bush, White, Smith,

Byrd, Jarrett, and their mammoth Offensive lines (One of the best in

the entire nation).  Beside, Vince Young can't even pass well as

advertised.

 

I admitted that Texas has a better defense than USC but it can be change like Oklahoma last year (they were good defensive team until at the end, they collapsed!).  And please dont give me the crap on Texas Tech's offensive firepower.  USC's offense clearly IS a JUGGERNAUT.  The only thing that stop them are dumb penalties (which is easily correctable with several practices per weeks).

Some inane comments in this thread but I will repond to the latest.

 

Vince Young is a very good passer, not sure which advertisement you are watching.

 

Texas' Defense is much better than ou's of last year, USC was on fire last year in the championship, guys catching balls on the ground.

 

Tech's offense, at least was #1 in the country. They can only play who is on their schedule.

 

Notre Dame all but matched usc's juggernut, as usc squeaked a win outta that one.

 

Are you saying they don't practice several times a week? Get real dude.

 

I am looking forward to a matchup on the field, I don't see usc stopping Texas a whole lot, I do see Texas stopping usc more than not. Lots of games to be played. As long as Texas and usc win out, they will be 1-2 in the BCS. They are obviously 1-2 best teams in the country. So it is working this year.

 

I would prefer to have a playoff system. But the only argument I can see valid for the bcs is that the whole season is a playoff, one loss and you are out. Unless everyone else has a loss, then it is a big mess again.

 

HOOK 'EM

 

:D

LMAO at EVERYBODY that talks trash about their "Big 10", "Big 12", "SEC", defenses stopping the Trojans. If I recall, Oklahoma's D was regarding as top 1 or 2 in the nation last year prior to USC hanging 55 on them and calling off the dogs late in the 3rd quarter (easily could have been 70).

 

Fight On!!

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Unless USC or Texas stumbles, VT is gonna be on the outside looking in.

i doubt it...the quality wins will be on the side of VT.

 

the ACC is much tougher than either the little 12 and the wac-10 :huh:

Sorry Hokies, but if Texas wins out and USC wins out, it's USC and Texas for the glass football. No way around it.

 

Yes, the Big XII is weak this year. Part of the problem is UT keeps beating teams so badly.

texas's schedule is as soft as they come... :headbanger:

Exactly how many top 10 teams has VT beaten this year? That's what I thought. Texas has proven that they should be a top 2 team...period.

the season isn't over jackass...VT still has the canes and fsu on their schedule.

Actually, there is an outside chance that VT and Texas would be in the championship game even if USC finishes #1 in the human polls. Imagine the uproar.

 

VT will likely have the strongest stength of schedule for these 3 teams by year end (FSU, MIA, and BC on the schedule). Texas's SOS is better than USC's. So even if USC is #1 in the human polls, the computers and quality wins could easily overcome that amount.

 

I have a suspision that my beloved Hokies and USC will each lose a game. Late losses kill you in the human polls. So Texas might be meeting up with Bama or Georgia. :ph34r:

Your kind've on the right track, but your a little wrong. At the end of the season it's not going to matter who was ranked where when you bet them in terms of the computers, it's going to matter where are they now when the computers do there rankings.

 

If VT wins out, and then win the ACC championship game, there is no doubt in my mind they will be #1 in the computer pools. They would have beaten GT, Miami, BC, and FSU. and at the end of the season I beleive all of thoes teams will have very repectable records and rankings.

 

As far as texas goes... There is noone of value left on their schedual meaning their computer rankings will only get lower. Also Texas Tech will probably lose atleast one more game to one of the oklahoma teams, being their cpu record down farther. Colorado has lost to any good team they've played, so i expected them to lose again a fall farther in the pools. So the main win they will have will be OSU... and texas needs OSU to win out the remainder of their big ten schedual. In the end... Texas computer value will fall, and after the ACC chapmionship if VT is undefeated they may even get jumped by VT in the human pools which would really mean goodnight for Texas.

 

Now USC I believe has no jepordy of not being in the rose bowl as long as they win out.. because

#1 They will not get jumped by any team in the humans pools, and if you think they will you don't know too much about how the writers and coaches vote.

#2 Understand that it is a very narrow margin between USC and Texas in the BCS poll, and some of the computer polls. So their remaing schedual will easily give them the nod over texas. They still have Fresno, Cal and UCLA, and wash st. is the only team with a losing record (3-4) they have left to play.

#3 If ND beats Tenn of the 5th, that will help USC out that much more in the polls, but bottom line is end the end, they will be #1 in the human polls, and may be #1, or #2 in the computer Polls, meaning their is no way texas finishes ahead of them.

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Beside, even USC get ranked 2nd, they will still get into Rose Bowl

and probably would beat the crap out of Texas.  No team can match the

SHEER offensive firepowers of USC in Leinart, Bush, White, Smith,

Byrd, Jarrett, and their mammoth Offensive lines (One of the best in

the entire nation).  Beside, Vince Young can't even pass well as

advertised.

 

I admitted that Texas has a better defense than USC but it can be change like Oklahoma last year (they were good defensive team until at the end, they collapsed!).  And please dont give me the crap on Texas Tech's offensive firepower.  USC's offense clearly IS a JUGGERNAUT.  The only thing that stop them are dumb penalties (which is easily correctable with several practices per weeks).

Some inane comments in this thread but I will repond to the latest.

 

Vince Young is a very good passer, not sure which advertisement you are watching.

 

Texas' Defense is much better than ou's of last year, USC was on fire last year in the championship, guys catching balls on the ground.

 

Tech's offense, at least was #1 in the country. They can only play who is on their schedule.

 

Notre Dame all but matched usc's juggernut, as usc squeaked a win outta that one.

 

Are you saying they don't practice several times a week? Get real dude.

 

I am looking forward to a matchup on the field, I don't see usc stopping Texas a whole lot, I do see Texas stopping usc more than not. Lots of games to be played. As long as Texas and usc win out, they will be 1-2 in the BCS. They are obviously 1-2 best teams in the country. So it is working this year.

 

I would prefer to have a playoff system. But the only argument I can see valid for the bcs is that the whole season is a playoff, one loss and you are out. Unless everyone else has a loss, then it is a big mess again.

 

HOOK 'EM

 

:headbanger:

LMAO at EVERYBODY that talks trash about their "Big 10", "Big 12", "SEC", defenses stopping the Trojans. If I recall, Oklahoma's D was regarding as top 1 or 2 in the nation last year prior to USC hanging 55 on them and calling off the dogs late in the 3rd quarter (easily could have been 70).

 

Fight On!!

That was last year. Texas' defense this year is better than ou's was last year. as I said before usc was on fire in the title game last year, making unbelievable plays, I didn't watch them before that game last year, this year I have watched them and haven't seen anything like the plays they had in that single game alone. If usc makes it, which I hope they do, and if Texas makes it, which they should, Texas will make plenty of stops, usc won't make as many. Understand posts before you quote them, I didn't say anything you referred to in yours. I am looking forward to settling it on the field.

 

:headbanger:

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Georgia or Alabama could beat USC. As a matter of fact, so could LSU and Auburn. If USC gets lucky, the BCS will fail again, and they will not have to play a SEC team like last year. Auburn would have waxed them, no doubt.

Nah, you're not a blinded SEC homer. :headbanger:

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