mfmise 0 Posted October 27, 2005 From Fanball: Wide receiver Chad Johnson said Packers cornerback Al Harris will offer his toughest challenge this season, but that didn't stop him from being… well, Chad Johnson. "There are two things for Brother Harris this week," Johnson told the Cincinnati Enquirer. "The bad thing is, he has to cover me. The good is, he can save 15 percent by switching his insurance to Geico." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoffdaddy 1 Posted October 27, 2005 He was pretty glowing in his review of Harris, saying he is similar to Champ Bailey. Not sure if he's setting him up or not, but Harris didn't sound like he was buying it. http://www.jsonline.com/packer/news/oct05/366064.asp Harris ready to check Johnson By TOM SILVERSTEIN tsilverstein@journalsentinel.com Posted: Oct. 26, 2005 Green Bay - The Green Bay Packers' Al Harris tried to act Wednesday like he was unaware of Cincinnati wide receiver Chad Johnson's famed "Who covered 85 in 2005?" checklist. As an actor, Harris makes a pretty good cornerback. Harris has known for a long time that his name is on the list, which Johnson - No. 85 - formulated when the schedule came out and taped on his locker in Cincinnati. The list includes those Johnson considers the best cornerback of the team the Bengals face that week and after each game he checks off the ones he feels he has outperformed. Not surprisingly, the brash and non-stop-talking Johnson feels he hasn't lost one yet. "Everyone has received a no," Johnson said. "I haven't been stopped yet. It is when opportunities and balls are thrown my way. If a ball is thrown my way and is knocked down or intercepted, that's all they have to do in four quarters." Johnson, who ranks third in the NFL in receptions with 43 for 655 yards and five touchdowns, has been a big part of the turnaround in Cincinnati. The 5-2 Bengals are in first place in the AFC North and rank fourth in the NFL in offense. Harris will be lined up against Johnson much of the game, but his wish to be locked up with the opposing team's top receiver regardless of where he lines up has been ignored since the season opener. It's possible it could be resurrected this season, but neither Harris nor defensive coordinator Jim Bates was saying. That doesn't mean, however, that Harris isn't excited about facing one of the top young receivers in the NFL. Or that he doesn't know that Johnson has singled him out as the guy who might get the check mark next to his name. "This is right up my alley," said Harris, who last year got to regularly line up against the opponents' top receiver and has gone toe-to-toe with the likes of Randy Moss, Terrell Owens and Torry Holt. "I just hope that I get the opportunities. I know I'm going to get some. I hope we all hold up." The match-up between Johnson and Harris is intriguing because both play hard, practice hard and relish physical play. The 6-1, 192-pound Johnson isn't as big as Owens or as fast as Moss, but when he gets around the ball there are few who attack it the way he does. He won't shy away from Harris' relentless bump coverage and won't be denied when he gets near the end zone. In a conference call with reporters, Johnson lavished praise on Harris. "I'm probably getting the second-best corner in the NFL this week," Johnson said. "His ability to win at the line of scrimmage and his ability to transition if he doesn't puts him in the same class as Champ (Bailey). He can do the same things Champ can do. Those are the only two who I've seen who are able to do that. "He doesn't get the notoriety he deserves, but I'm going to make sure he gets it this week." Johnson, who ranked Owens and Moss as better receivers than him, has been respectful in his challenge of opposing cornerbacks. He has used the list more as motivation for himself than anything else and hasn't used it to denigrate his opponents. His verbal bouquet for Harris might have been a bit of a setup, but Harris didn't see it that way. "I've never known him to butter anybody up," Harris said. "If he is, he doesn't know me because I'm never off my guard, no matter who we're playing." As much as Harris would like to match up with Johnson, who has taken the art of touchdown celebrations to another level, Bates isn't sure he wants to do it. Harris did it against Roy Williams in the season opener at Detroit, and it worked to shut down Williams but it also resulted in several blown assignments in the secondary. "When you match up, it limits you on some things you can do," Bates said. "You have to evaluate where you are, where we are with the rest of the secondary and with the coverage system that we want to carry into the ball game. It's a weekly decision." Speaking of decisions, Johnson wouldn't reveal his regarding what dance he'll break out this week if he reaches the end zone. In Week 3 against Chicago, it was a Riverdance routine. In Week 5 at Jacksonville, it was CPR on the football. Last week, it was a salsa dance. And this week? "I have something very good," he said. "You guys will enjoy it for sure." Harris might have something to say about that. But he wasn't about to get into a war of words with Johnson. "I don't get too wrapped up in that," Harris said. "I try to focus on my individual battles and try to win those. The guy is good. But you know what? I've been facing good receivers since 1997. I know who's good." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 27, 2005 Chad Johnson got shut down by Ike Taylor. Ike Taylor! Anyone outside of Pittsburgh ever hear of this guy before week #7? Chad is overrated. What did he do about his checklist last week? Pittsburgh's #1 corner wasn't even covering Chad. And Burgh didn't double team Chad or spy a safety. PRICELESS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 62 Posted October 27, 2005 Yes, but Ike Taylor, regardless of whether you've heard of him or not, is an exceptional talent. Due to not playing a lot of cornerback in college, he took some time adjusting to the pro game. But he's big, fast, and fluid, and his ability to cover receivers has improved immensely from last year to this. His covering Chad Johnson was no fluke. Against Jacksonville, he is the one who made the breakup of the pass to Jimmy Smith. A beautiful catch-up and perfectly timed leap to knock the ball away. This boy is the real deal. Don't knock Chad too much for being held in check by him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted October 27, 2005 Funny Chad also said how Harris was underrated and how this week he would change all of that. He's good with a quote but apparently dumb as a board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perennial Contender 18 Posted October 27, 2005 Chad is overrated. PRICELESS. 43 for 655 yards and five touchdowns is overrated? Priceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skanker 0 Posted October 27, 2005 From Fanball: Wide receiver Chad Johnson said Packers cornerback Al Harris will offer his toughest challenge this season, but that didn't stop him from being… well, Chad Johnson. "There are two things for Brother Harris this week," Johnson told the Cincinnati Enquirer. "The bad thing is, he has to cover me. The good is, he can save 15 percent by switching his insurance to Geico." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted October 27, 2005 Chad Johnson got shut down by Ike Taylor. Ike Taylor! Anyone outside of Pittsburgh ever hear of this guy before week #7? Chad is overrated. What did he do about his checklist last week? Pittsburgh's #1 corner wasn't even covering Chad. And Burgh didn't double team Chad or spy a safety. PRICELESS. And I still don't know, or care, who Ike Taylor is. I don't think I'm alone too. Anyone outside of Pittsburgh is the same, I'd guess. Chad is still Chad, out in front making news and Ike goes back to whatever corner he came out from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,613 Posted October 27, 2005 Johnson is getting up there with being just as big an ass as Terrell Owens... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niners_fan 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Chad is not overrated. He did get shut down (scoring wise) by Pitt though especially b/c he said he was gonna score a td on them WHICH HE DIDN'T. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 62 Posted October 27, 2005 Chad Johnson got shut down by Ike Taylor. Ike Taylor! Anyone outside of Pittsburgh ever hear of this guy before week #7? Chad is overrated. What did he do about his checklist last week? Pittsburgh's #1 corner wasn't even covering Chad. And Burgh didn't double team Chad or spy a safety. PRICELESS. And I still don't know, or care, who Ike Taylor is. I don't think I'm alone too. Anyone outside of Pittsburgh is the same, I'd guess. Chad is still Chad, out in front making news and Ike goes back to whatever corner he came out from. You'll know by the end of the year, and then you'll care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Chad is overrated. How can a guy with 5 TDs and 2nd in the league in receiving yards possibly be called overrated? And last week's TD should never have been reversed, so it should be 6 TDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexpketon 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Funniest thing I have seen all day......Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gacomeau 0 Posted October 27, 2005 "Everyone has received a no," Johnson said. "I haven't been stopped yet. It is when opportunities and balls are thrown my way. If a ball is thrown my way and is knocked down or intercepted, that's all they have to do in four quarters." I was wondering how his checkmark system works. So if there was excellent blanket coverage on him all day, Palmer only throws him two passes because he can't get open. But he manages to catch the two passes for 30 yards. Those corners would still get check marks because he'd say there were no balls thrown his way. He'd need to get open for the "opportunties and balls" to come his way. But his sytem only takes into account interceptions and knock downs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted October 27, 2005 "Everyone has received a no," Johnson said. "I haven't been stopped yet. It is when opportunities and balls are thrown my way. If a ball is thrown my way and is knocked down or intercepted, that's all they have to do in four quarters." I was wondering how his checkmark system works. So if there was excellent blanket coverage on him all day, Palmer only throws him two passes because he can't get open. But he manages to catch the two passes for 30 yards. Those corners would still get check marks because he'd say there were no balls thrown his way. He'd need to get open for the "opportunties and balls" to come his way. But his sytem only takes into account interceptions and knock downs. Yeah, he's "playing" as he puts it so the list is for entertainment purposes only. Why take him so seriously when he doesn't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rye & Leaf 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Yeah, he rules alright. Just one question: what the hell was that he did when he got into the endzone last week on that td that was called back? Not that I'm into making references from the 30's but it looked like some sort of Betty Boop dance. I dont usually agree with his takes, but Randy Cross's stunned silence pretty much summed up that celebration for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kitrick Taylor 0 Posted October 27, 2005 The report that I read after the Cin vs Jax game said Rashean Mathis also shut him down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hail to the Redskins 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Chad is overrated. How can a guy with 5 TDs and 2nd in the league in receiving yards possibly be called overrated? And last week's TD should never have been reversed, so it should be 6 TDs. That was the biggest focking blown call of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted October 27, 2005 Chad is overrated. How can a guy with 5 TDs and 2nd in the league in receiving yards possibly be called overrated? And last week's TD should never have been reversed, so it should be 6 TDs. That was the biggest focking blown call of the season. Holy , Batman! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted October 27, 2005 not to high jack this thread, but i was lookin at trading for him, do you think either caddy or t. jones coupled with jimmy smith is too high a price? This means i would be trading one of my 2nd RBs (2a or 2b) and my third startin reciever for CJ... is that too much? I just love the trash he talks, and that would create possibly the greatest trio of recivers ever formed in a 12 man league. what do you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 28, 2005 Chad was a non-factor vs. Pitt and Jags the only 2 real defenses he has faced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringBackBernie 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Chad was a non-factor vs. Pitt and Jags the only 2 real defenses he has faced. Agreed. All these WR's have ran their mouth so much and done so many outlandish, stupid things so often, that they have become boring. Yeah, yeah, good job, you run mouth, you score TD, you do some dance or mini-sketch. Way to go, you crazy.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MUGS Posted October 28, 2005 Chad was a non-factor vs. Pitt Who Dey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Chad is overrated. How can a guy with 5 TDs and 2nd in the league in receiving yards possibly be called overrated? And last week's TD should never have been reversed, so it should be 6 TDs. That was the biggest focking blown call of the season. Holy , Batman! Just saying - if the replay system is to be trusted, then they should really get their crap together. I've seen an awful lot of plays reversed where there was no "irrefutable" evidence. I thought that was the basic criteria. Boomer Esiason isn't exactly the most unbiased, but he did write that he watched that play from every camera angle available, and that clearly his feet touched in the end zone prior to his hand touching out of bounds. I saw several slow motion replays of that catch and it was pretty obvious that his feet came down. All they were saying in the booth was that there was some question as to whether the ball was moving on the way down, which they thought was what they were reviewing for. But the announcers were pretty shocked when they made the ruling they did - after seeing it so many times, it's impossible to believe that the right call was made there. Not because although I have both Palmer & CJohnson on a team, I won the week anyway. But as a general statement of fact, that TD should never have been overturned - instant replay is becomming something of a joke with the number of calls they've blown this year. My only feeling on this is that if they're going to blow calls anyway, then why have replay? They can blow the calls all on their own and not slow down the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MUGS Posted October 28, 2005 Not cry.gif because although I have both Palmer & CJohnson on a team, I won the week anyway. But as a general statement of fact, that TD should never have been overturned - instant replay is becomming something of a joke with the number of calls they've blown this year. If it makes you feel better Scooter, I'll give you the Td Outcome the same...Who Dey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FaithinEli 0 Posted October 28, 2005 From Fanball: Wide receiver Chad Johnson said Packers cornerback Al Harris will offer his toughest challenge this season, but that didn't stop him from being… well, Chad Johnson. "There are two things for Brother Harris this week," Johnson told the Cincinnati Enquirer. "The bad thing is, he has to cover me. The good is, he can save 15 percent by switching his insurance to Geico." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpcdds 26 Posted October 28, 2005 Chad is overrated. How can a guy with 5 TDs and 2nd in the league in receiving yards possibly be called overrated? And last week's TD should never have been reversed, so it should be 6 TDs. That was the biggest focking blown call of the season. Holy , Batman! Just saying - if the replay system is to be trusted, then they should really get their crap together. I've seen an awful lot of plays reversed where there was no "irrefutable" evidence. I thought that was the basic criteria. Boomer Esiason isn't exactly the most unbiased, but he did write that he watched that play from every camera angle available, and that clearly his feet touched in the end zone prior to his hand touching out of bounds. I saw several slow motion replays of that catch and it was pretty obvious that his feet came down. All they were saying in the booth was that there was some question as to whether the ball was moving on the way down, which they thought was what they were reviewing for. But the announcers were pretty shocked when they made the ruling they did - after seeing it so many times, it's impossible to believe that the right call was made there. Not because although I have both Palmer & CJohnson on a team, I won the week anyway. But as a general statement of fact, that TD should never have been overturned - instant replay is becomming something of a joke with the number of calls they've blown this year. My only feeling on this is that if they're going to blow calls anyway, then why have replay? They can blow the calls all on their own and not slow down the game. Agree Scooter...there was no camera angle to overturn the call on the field...which is the criteria that needs to be met to do so....terrible reversal IMO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XToday 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Quickly, quickly becoming TO... Both good and bad. For now, he's funny. Eventually... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttmonkey 8 Posted October 28, 2005 Hey retards, a receiver can't have a great game "every" game. Geez, get a clue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdsteve_2000 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Jebus. I feel a rant coming on......... Those of you saying Chad is starting to turn into another TO need to have your heads checked. TO is a complete ass. Chad doesnt berate other players, he never calls team mates names publicly, doesnt publicy criticize his coach....all the guy does is bring some entertainment to the table and has fun with it. Anyone who takes this stuff seriously needs to relax. Yes, on the sidelines sometimes he loses it and acts a bit childish, but thats just a bit of immaturity and competitiveness. He doesnt carry it into the press conference and make everyone in the organization cringe when he talks after a game. Hes a fierce competitor, and a rediculously talented receiver and athelete, and has a better work ethic than probably 90% of the league. All hes doing is having a little fun. And this may come as a surprise to some, but you will NEVER see a YES checked by ANY DB's name this year, no matter what happens. Its just the way he is. Hes confident as they come, and its just a show for the fans. Did anyone hear his comments on Ike Taylor after the game last week? While Palmer and others were saying "We're a better team than Pittsburgh", yadda yadda yadda, Chad had this to say afterwards: "On a serious note, he's very good," Johnson said. "I came into the game thinking it would be very easy. He made me go into my bag of tricks, therefore he's in a class of his own. He's good, fast and quick." Chad gives respect when it is deserved, but the checklist is just for fun. Some people think hes just drawing attention to himself and saying "Look at me!", but I see it another way. By doing the checklist, hes raising the level of play for the DBs hes going to face. He really wants them at their best. He knows the list will make his opponents bring their A game against him. What other WR in the league seriously wants to be challenged week in and week out like Chad? I dont think anything hes doing is detrimental to the league. He doesnt get into trouble off the field, hes humbled and emotional after a loss, not a jerk to the media, he ALWAYS gives credit where credit is due (aside from the checklist, which is JUST FOR FUN), and hes just plain good for football and great for the city of Cincinnati. He is electric, and while he cant get 100 and a TD every week, the guy is indeed great. We're watching a legend in the making. If he can stay healthy, he will break alot of receiving records and will be Canton bound when all is said and done. So he has a silly checklist. So what? He is bar none THE most entertaining player in the NFL, and hes got a great sense of humor. Hes just lightening the mood during the week with his chatter, but when Sunday comes, he always brings his A game to the table. Sometimes he wins the battles, sometime she loses. But hes young and has alot to learn, and he will learn. And he will only get better. Anyone who takes his fun seriously needs to smoke a fatty, sit back, and just relax and see him for what he is: a great player who has alot of fun. Why is that so bad? Id LOVE to have a guy like Chad on my team. Talent, confidence, tireless work ethic, desire to be one of the best ever...What more could you want in a player? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Id LOVE to have a guy like Chad on my team. Talent, confidence, tireless work ethic, desire to be one of the best ever...What more could you want in a player? Not to just come in here and be negative after you made that nice long post, but . . . Apparently you want something more than that because T.O. has all of that and you don't seem to like him. Chad Johnson is the poseur version of T.O. People who really find T.O.'s creativity and stunts appealing but think he's a jerk have fallen in love with Johnson becuase it lets them enjoy it without the controversy and without being challenged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdsteve_2000 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Id LOVE to have a guy like Chad on my team. Talent, confidence, tireless work ethic, desire to be one of the best ever...What more could you want in a player? Not to just come in here and be negative after you made that nice long post, but . . . Apparently you want something more than that because T.O. has all of that and you don't seem to like him. Chad Johnson is the poseur version of T.O. People who really find T.O.'s creativity and stunts appealing but think he's a jerk have fallen in love with Johnson becuase it lets them enjoy it without the controversy and without being challenged. Well, Ive been a 9er fan for 20 years and Im not a big TO fan. Yes, on the field he is everything you want out of a player, but off the field the crap that comes with him just isnt worth it. Hes a total distraction while Chad is just a joker and a prankster. BIG difference. You didnt see the media asking every Bengal player this offseason about Chad Johnson and his comments. You didnt see a soap-opera like saga with Cinci like you did TO and Philly. You didnt see Chad calling out the character of team mates like you did TO. TO is all about himself, and while it can be argued that Chad is, too, I never see TO emotionally upset after a loss like Chad has been. TO is more of the guy who says "They didnt get me the ball, Donovan needs to look my way more, Im doing everything I can and thats all I can do, I cant throw myself the ball", etc, while Chad says things like "No, 4-1 isnt okay. Were beter than this. It hurts. We have to work harder and get better", etc. One thing that comes to mind is a phone conversation TO was having on the sidelines during a game....he was talking to an OC or another coach on the sideline phone, and his exact words were "I dont like football, coach, but I know football". This says ALOT. Chad on the other hand, has an oldschool love for the game. And respect for the game. If TO had his way, hed rather be playing basketball, but he doesnt because he cant make as much money as he can playing football. I dont know about you, but when deciding between 2 players that are quote unquote "great", Ill take the one that truly loves the game and lives for it, over the guy who is great at it but couldnt care less about it. Ill take CJ over TO anyday of the week. One thing you DONT get with CJ is the TO baggage. Yes, you get a mouth that is always running, but not in the same way that TO runs his. Chad hasnt come out and said he wants to play somewhere else because the looks arent there or because the public doesnt see him as he wants to be seen, or because they arent winning. He knows hes just one piece in the puzzle, and he doesnt see himself as the lone savior. He knows the team needs him as much as he needs the team. He knows he has something special with Palmer, Rudi, and the young, upcoming defense. He sees Marvin Lewis as a father figure, and he has the utmost respect for him, his city, the game and his teammates. Case closed. disclaimer: Yes, I am a HUGE CJ fan. But Im not really a Bengal fan. Im glad for the franchise though. I think theyve been so bad for so long that its great that they have great young talent, a coach that knows how to teach and inpire his team, and a bright future. Lewis is turning them into a class act. he still has some work to do, but its all falling into place. Having a guy like CJ takes the heat off some of the other guys. And while hes cocky, hes a much better role model than TO will ever be. When all is said and done, Im betting CJ ranks higher than TO. And it wont even be close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natyb22 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Apparently you want something more than that because T.O. has all of that and you don't seem to like him. Chad Johnson is the poseur version of T.O. People who really find T.O.'s creativity and stunts appealing but think he's a jerk have fallen in love with Johnson becuase it lets them enjoy it without the controversy and without being challenged. I've never heard anyone be so wrong in my life........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeddyK.G.B. 0 Posted October 29, 2005 From Fanball: Wide receiver Chad Johnson said Packers cornerback Al Harris will offer his toughest challenge this season, but that didn't stop him from being… well, Chad Johnson. "There are two things for Brother Harris this week," Johnson told the Cincinnati Enquirer. "The bad thing is, he has to cover me. The good is, he can save 15 percent by switching his insurance to Geico." Ray Lewis has already used this joke. But he did it on the sideline to a bunch of rookies during preseason, so nobody heard it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjohnson85 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Nobody is going to get a check mark all season from Chad for covering him REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME. So you can quit trying to figure out his "criteria." Johnson just uses this as a self motivational tool, which is why Marvin lets him keep it in the locker room. It's not a big deal, if it was than the black jesus (Marvin Lewis) would not let him have it in the locker room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g5jamz 0 Posted October 29, 2005 You had to see the video of him doing it...he's a comedian in another life. Perfect setup...perfect execution and facial expression. That man is hilarious. And honestly...I thought I'd hate the guy...I'm liking him more and more after the Pitt/Cincy game when Ward and he talked and laughed about Ward's attempted River Dance. No attitude...just humor and good natured jibbing your opponent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Brad 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Chad is overrated. How can a guy with 5 TDs and 2nd in the league in receiving yards possibly be called overrated? And last week's TD should never have been reversed, so it should be 6 TDs. Scooter is right I saw that TD by CJ last week, no way in freakin hell that should have been overturned... I think the guys in the booth must have been stoned when looking at replay... It was a sweet leaping dive in the corner on a fake double reverse... Shoulda been a TD all day long... Replay blew that one badly... IMO... TW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XToday 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Nice argument against the TO-CJ comparisons. And for now, you're right... But don't tell me with a straight face that a guy who apparently needs to make constant headlines with his humor, or has a checklist in his locker, isn't a "me-first" type of personality... No, he's not TO. Not yet. But he's got that powder keg type of character, and for now he's happy in Cincy, and more importantly, he's got the media's attention. But I would make a gentlemen's wager that eventually he'll get bored. Then you'll be wincing-- as we do now with TO-- at some of the comments he makes. ...it's coming. Just my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites