whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 20, 2004 1) two divisions of eight, play 14 regular season games with a double round robin within your division, hence like two mini-leagues until the playoffs start, that allows two weeks for the playoffs or three if we have the super bowl game week 17 2) four divisons of four, play 14 regular season games, double round robin within division (six games) and play all the teams from two of the other three divisions, that allows two weeks for the playoffs or three if we have the super bowl game week 17 3) four divisons of four, play 13 regular season games, double round robin within division (six games) and then play 7 of the remaining 12 teams, that allows three weeks for the playoffs 4) no divisions, play a single round robin against all other 15 teams and then have just week 16 (or maybe 17 too) for a brief playoff 5) some sort of attempt at playing every team at least once via double-header weeks during the non-NFL-bye weeks, for instance: > double headers week 1, 2, 11, 12, 13 > single games weeks 3-10 > that's a total of 18 games over 13 weeks > play all twelve non-division teams once > play the indivision team twice > that's a total of 18 games > play one non-division team weeks 1-12 > play the division opponents as the extra games weeks 1, 2, 11, 12 and play two of them week 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilzone 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Just checking to see if I can post here. :ph34r: Also, I like #2. You can just rotate the division you don't play from year to year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OB1 33 Posted May 20, 2004 Just checking to see if I can post here. :ph34r: Right now I think everyone can post everywhere still. I have requested official access for you hoo, galt, and bernie, so we should be covered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Also, I like #2. You can just rotate the division you don't play from year to year. #5 would be another interesting twist to make the league unique. We'd have to research which site could support that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OB1 33 Posted May 20, 2004 1) two divisions of eight, play 14 regular season games with a double round robin within your division, hence like two mini-leagues until the playoffs start, that allows two weeks for the playoffs or three if we have the super bowl game week 17 2) four divisons of four, play 14 regular season games, double round robin within division (six games) and play all the teams from two of the other three divisions, that allows two weeks for the playoffs or three if we have the super bowl game week 17 3) four divisons of four, play 13 regular season games, double round robin within division (six games) and then play 7 of the remaining 12 teams, that allows three weeks for the playoffs 4) no divisions, play a single round robin against all other 15 teams and then have just week 16 (or maybe 17 too) for a brief playoff 5) some sort of attempt at playing every team at least once via double-header weeks during the non-NFL-bye weeks, for instance: > double headers week 1, 2, 11, 12, 13 > single games weeks 3-10 > that's a total of 18 games over 13 weeks > play all twelve non-division teams once > play the indivision team twice > that's a total of 18 games > play one non-division team weeks 1-12 > play the division opponents as the extra games weeks 1, 2, 11, 12 and play two of them week 13 I'm partial to #2 as well, and since this is a dynasty league, what Wilzone said works fine. We can rotate the schedules like th NFL does, meaning you will eventually play every team, but just not all in one season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OB1 33 Posted May 20, 2004 Also, I like #2. You can just rotate the division you don't play from year to year. #5 would be another interesting twist to make the league unique. We'd have to research which site could support that one. That was my biggest concern with it. It's going to be hard enough getting the cheapskates here to agree on a site (since it will certianly be a pay site) that will accomodate our needs as a large dynasty league. If we can find one though i'm not adverse to doubleheaders, we use them in one 12 team league to have a 16 game season and still have 2 rounds of playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 20, 2004 That was my biggest concern with it. It's going to be hard enough getting the cheapskates here to agree on a site (since it will certianly be a pay site) that will accomodate our needs as a large dynasty league. If we can find one though i'm not adverse to doubleheaders, we use them in one 12 team league to have a 16 game season and still have 2 rounds of playoffs. RTSports would be no more than $5 per year (and maybe less if someone who already buys a league there can make the purchase). $5 * 16 = $80. I believe that MFL is less. Our rules are probably not so complex that any hosting service would work. There are a couple around $50 per season that would be around $3 per team, yet they might not support the double headers. I'm pretty sure that RTS does support them. IMO, we should decide what we want first, then start shopping for one that meets our needs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 20, 2004 How should we set the divisions? 1) geographic (we'd need city/state info for everyone) 2) use one of the four dice in the die rolls (pick one - the highest four are together and so forth) 3) try to keep the chimi geeks in different divisions and likewise for geeks in other leagues together (my chimi division is me + wilzone + grandpahoo, so at least split us up) 4) roll again (not the best choice) 5) form your own - find three others to play with you 6) by FFToday member number (the 1st, 5th, 9th, 13th highest are together and so forth) 7) some other idea(s) (specify) ...we should decide this as well as the rules before we start frafting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasperisOK 0 Posted May 21, 2004 I also like option #2 the best, along with the Wilzone suggestion of rotating the divisions each year as we go. I wouldn't be opposed to option #5, if we can find a site that can handle it. As far as setting up the divisions, I like the idea of using our FFToday member numbers for determining who we are stuck with. *edited to mention that I would gladly pay my share for a good site* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farmer Bernie 0 Posted May 21, 2004 I also like option #2 the best, along with the Wilzone suggestion of rotating the divisions each year as we go. I wouldn't be opposed to option #5, if we can find a site that can handle it. As far as setting up the divisions, I like the idea of using our FFToday member numbers for determining who we are stuck with. *edited to mention that I would gladly pay my share for a good site* What he said. 'Cept I like both 2 and 5 about equal. new guy not kissing ass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OB1 33 Posted May 21, 2004 How should we set the divisions? 1) geographic (we'd need city/state info for everyone) 2) use one of the four dice in the die rolls (pick one - the highest four are together and so forth) 3) try to keep the chimi geeks in different divisions and likewise for geeks in other leagues together (my chimi division is me + wilzone + grandpahoo, so at least split us up) 4) roll again (not the best choice) 5) form your own - find three others to play with you 6) by FFToday member number (the 1st, 5th, 9th, 13th highest are together and so forth) 7) some other idea(s) (specify) ...we should decide this as well as the rules before we start frafting. Member number sounds cool , I was going to say use the draft order: 1-4 5-8 9-12 13-16 Member numbers is a better way of doing it though. I think the lowest 4 should be one division, then the next 4 and so on. We can call the first division Silverbacks, the next few Vets, Assmegs and rookies (or whatever you clever focks think of). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 21, 2004 How should we set the divisions? 1) geographic (we'd need city/state info for everyone) 2) use one of the four dice in the die rolls (pick one - the highest four are together and so forth) 3) try to keep the chimi geeks in different divisions and likewise for geeks in other leagues together (my chimi division is me + wilzone + grandpahoo, so at least split us up) 4) roll again (not the best choice) 5) form your own - find three others to play with you 6) by FFToday member number (the 1st, 5th, 9th, 13th highest are together and so forth) 7) some other idea(s) (specify) ...we should decide this as well as the rules before we start frafting. Member number sounds cool , I was going to say use the draft order: 1-4 5-8 9-12 13-16 Member numbers is a better way of doing it though. I think the lowest 4 should be one division, then the next 4 and so on. We can call the first division Silverbacks, the next few Vets, Assmegs and rookies (or whatever you clever focks think of). Silverbacks CMT (108) OB1 (180) scooby (410) grandpahoo (422) Vets EMoney (442) ICEMAN (1264) Farmer Bernie (2738) JasperisOK (3174) Assmegs whoisjgalt (4416) the Unknown Soldier (5021) Lydellington (5110) Bitter Naval Frizz (6483) Rookies Wilzone (6944) Orgazmo (8752) Cornerback (9294) windycityguy (10885) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OB1 33 Posted May 21, 2004 SilverbacksCMT (108) OB1 (180) scooby (410) grandpahoo (422) Vets EMoney (442) ICEMAN (1264) Farmer Bernie (2738) JasperisOK (3174) Assmegs whoisjgalt (4416) the Unknown Soldier (5021) Lydellington (5110) Bitter Naval Frizz (6483) Rookies Wilzone (6944) Orgazmo (8752) Cornerback (9294) windycityguy (10885) Nice, looks good to me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilzone 0 Posted May 21, 2004 That works for me. CMT and grandpahoo in the same division is going to be fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 21, 2004 RTSports does indeed support double (and even triple) headers. Full Season Commissioner FeaturesLive Scoring Online Draft Individual Defensive Players Decimal Point Scoring Salary Cap Option League Fee Tracking NFL News Injury Reports Message Board Interactive RealTime Chat Guest Login Year-to-Year League Archives Weekly NFL Pool for Your Owners Trade / Transactions Owner-to-Owner Trading Option Option for Commissioner to Approve Trades Prioritized Free Agent Pick Up - Waiver Wire Free-For-All Free Agents Acquisition Option Rules Completely Customizable Rules Rules Editing at Any Time During the Season - Reports Automatically Updated Option for Commissioner to Add or Subtract Discretionary Points Schedule Generator Standings Based on Head-to-Head Competition or Total Score or Both Double or Triple Headers per NFL Week Ability to Play Against League Average Conferences and/or Divisions Variable League Sizes Option for Same NFL Player to be on More than One Team Reports Standings Based on Head-to-Head Competition or Total Score or Both Detailed Scoring Summaries Actual vs. Best Possible Team Scoring with Your Rules Top NFL Players Report - Based on Your Rules Individual Player NFL Stats, FFL Stats, and News Customization Customizable Home Page Post Your Own Articles and Pictures Add Your Own Polls and Links Owners May Upload Their Own Logos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 21, 2004 CMT and grandpahoo in the same division is going to be fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orgazmo 2 Posted May 21, 2004 rookiesisagreatname :-| Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby 0 Posted May 21, 2004 Site does not matter to me. We used Yahoo before because we were a bunch of cheap asses. It would still work, we would just have to get the rosters in some type of spreadsheet to carry over from year to year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OB1 33 Posted May 21, 2004 rookiesisagreatname :-| Mine were mere suggustions, any clever, funny, or cruel ideas can easily be substituted for my :| initial offerings! HTH!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilzone 0 Posted May 21, 2004 This league is filled with oldheads. I've been at FFToday for almost 3 years and I am in the Rookie group. Pretty weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ICEMAN 51 Posted May 21, 2004 I'll join the consensus here and vote for #2. I think the divisional arrangements work great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 21, 2004 I'm still a fan of #5. I want the chance to beat down all of you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 21, 2004 Does everybody realize that #2 means that either A. we only have four playoff teams (no wildcards, just the four division winners), or B. we have six or eight playoff teams but have to run the championship game week seventeen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orgazmo 2 Posted May 21, 2004 Does everybody realize that #2 means that either A. we only have four playoff teams (no wildcards, just the four division winners), or B. we have six or eight playoff teams but have to run the championship game week seventeen? Hmm. Both A and B suck hard in their own way. I really wouldn't mind option 5. My local league plays double header games, and it sure makes the standings interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilzone 0 Posted May 21, 2004 I kind of like the idea of only 4 division winners in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 21, 2004 I kind of like the idea of only 4 division winners in the playoffs. The NFL has sixteen teams per conference and six playoff teams per conference. I would think it somewhat desirable to copy-cat them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OB1 33 Posted May 21, 2004 I kind of like the idea of only 4 division winners in the playoffs. The NFL has sixteen teams per conference and six playoff teams per conference. I would think it somewhat desirable to copy-cat them. So we should have cheerleaders too? I'm kind of in Wilzone's corner here, the idea of having to win your division, old school MLB style is appealing to me. I would go with option 5 if that is what other's want though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 21, 2004 So we should have cheerleaders too? :yes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 22, 2004 This seems to have come down to #2 vs #5. There are pros and cons to both: #5 pros - play every opponent, also we have the flexibility to allow up to 8 playoff teams #5 cons - puts more weight on the double header weeks (which is why I suggest we only have double headers during the no bye weeks - something that works out perfectly) #2 pros - every week has the same weight #2 cons - we either can only have 4 playoff teams and no wildcards or we're stuck with a week 17 championship game (but the only division winners make the playoffs idea is a "pro" to some), also we don't play all the teams every year (we skip four) which means that some teams have easier or harder schedules (but every team within a division has the same opponents the way it's been drawn up) Add some if I've missed any... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornerback 0 Posted May 23, 2004 I like option # 5 also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bitter Naval Frizz 0 Posted May 23, 2004 I like option #5. My primary money league does doubleheaders the final week of the season/wildcard game of the playoffs and it has always worked fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windycityguy 1 Posted May 24, 2004 I like #5. More teams in the playoffs is the best way to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjgalt 0 Posted May 24, 2004 I like #5. More teams in the playoffs is the best way to go. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19262 is the place to cast your vote. HTH. TIA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites