Thin Spirit 0 Posted March 15, 2006 This guy was the one who broke the story on the Vince Young wonderlic test score and the Ricky Williams drug test... Patriot Act 3-15-06 The question on everyone’s mind this morning is who is going to end up with T.O. Hate him or love him, people are curious about where he is going to end up and how much money will he eventually get. The teams that we know are interested are the Dolphins, Chiefs, Cowboys and Broncos. There is another team which I have confirmed that has interest, but doesn’t want it to become public and that is the New England Patriots. Drew Rosenhaus has had some discussions with the Patriots brass, nothing serious, but it has been discussed. Before you think this is crazy, I have two words for you, Corey Dillon. The Patriots are more than 20 million dollars under the cap and just lost David Givens and Andre Davis. Don’t be shocked if they end up signing Owens, just remember you got the inside scoop here first. Source : http://www.robertlittal.com/ I have never in my life wanted a rumor to be more false than I do right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 15, 2006 Could be an interesting topic though. Brady could score some long ones to Branch and TO thats for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
U Dub 0 Posted March 15, 2006 i just can't see that type of player playing for the pats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mggoilers 0 Posted March 15, 2006 i just can't see that type of player playing for the pats. Corey Dillon beat his wife, and had numerous run-ins prior to playing for the Pats. T.O. has never had any problems remotely this bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted March 15, 2006 Corey Dillon beat his wife, and had numerous run-ins prior to playing for the Pats. T.O. has never had any problems remotely this bad. there are players like Dillon (and Ray Lewis) that have had off field issues. By no means can anyone call them a "good guy"... and compared to TO, their stuff is worse because it's illegal. But the "bad guys" like Dillon and Ray Lewis were never detrimental to their teams the way TO has been. They weren't locker room cancers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
U Dub 0 Posted March 15, 2006 But the "bad guys" like Dillon and Ray Lewis were never detrimental to their teams the way TO has been. They weren't locker room cancers. thats what i meant. the pats won't deal with that crap. not the off the field stuff. its all about being and playing as a team with the pats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill E. 703 Posted March 15, 2006 thats what i meant. the pats won't deal with that crap. not the off the field stuff. its all about being and playing as a team with the pats. I think TO knows that this may be his last shot. He will be watched like a hawk by his new teammates, the management and the press. I believe that he will be a model citizen wherever he ends up. At least for a couple of seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted March 15, 2006 I think its an ideal situation for both the Pats and TO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill E. 703 Posted March 15, 2006 I think its an ideal situation for both the Pats and TO I agree and hope it does not happen. I am so sick of hearing about the Pats, and a TO signing will keep them in the news and make them much stronger onfield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markf 0 Posted March 15, 2006 I think TO knows that this may be his last shot. He will be watched like a hawk by his new teammates, the management and the press. I believe that he will be a model citizen wherever he ends up.At least for a couple of seasons. As long as he has two legs, TO will get another "last chance" from a lot of teams out there. Hell, Jeff George still gets calls for godsakes. But you're right, wherever he ends up he'll be on his best. For a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bahama llama 0 Posted March 16, 2006 Let's look at who TO's had problems with, the QB's on his team. We have Jeff Garcia who has showed he really is nothing special and McNabb. McNabb is a poster boy for the NFL, mister nice guy with talent no doubt but he has shown an inability to some how win the big games, 3 lost nfc Championships and a Super Bowl loss. Now if we look at the Patriots we have Tom Brady, the next coming of Joe Montana as some might say. TO will not find a lack of leadership with him, and that respect might help keep TO in line. The only other QB I can think of in Brady's class right now would be Big Ben, so if TO couldn't keep it together in NE then he's worthless. I personally hope they don't sign him though, because I'm a Dolphins fan! don. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crestwood 0 Posted March 16, 2006 Let's look at who TO's had problems with, the QB's on his team. We have Jeff Garcia who has showed he really is nothing special and McNabb. McNabb is a poster boy for the NFL, mister nice guy with talent no doubt but he has shown an inability to some how win the big games, 3 lost nfc Championships and a Super Bowl loss. Now if we look at the Patriots we have Tom Brady, the next coming of Joe Montana as some might say. TO will not find a lack of leadership with him, and that respect might help keep TO in line. The only other QB I can think of in Brady's class right now would be Big Ben, so if TO couldn't keep it together in NE then he's worthless. I personally hope they don't sign him though, because I'm a Dolphins fan! don. you are truelly underestimating the asssholeishness of T.O. anywhere he goes, he will wreck that team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
culboarder11 0 Posted March 16, 2006 I agree and hope it does not happen. I am so sick of hearing about the Pats, and a TO signing will keep them in the news and make them much stronger onfield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowboyz 2 Posted March 16, 2006 i don't think TO can go to a cheap organization that plays hardball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lechuza 0 Posted March 16, 2006 I've been saying since last year i think he will end up with the Patriots. I think that Billichek sees TO has a chance to show everyone again how smart he is if he can control TO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bahama llama 0 Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(bahama llama @ Mar 15 2006, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Let's look at who TO's had problems with, the QB's on his team. We have Jeff Garcia who has showed he really is nothing special and McNabb. McNabb is a poster boy for the NFL, mister nice guy with talent no doubt but he has shown an inability to some how win the big games, 3 lost nfc Championships and a Super Bowl loss. Now if we look at the Patriots we have Tom Brady, the next coming of Joe Montana as some might say. TO will not find a lack of leadership with him, and that respect might help keep TO in line. The only other QB I can think of in Brady's class right now would be Big Ben, so if TO couldn't keep it together in NE then he's worthless. I personally hope they don't sign him though, because I'm a Dolphins fan! don. you are truelly underestimating the asssholeishness of T.O. anywhere he goes, he will wreck that team I hope so! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ratbastard1 0 Posted March 16, 2006 This aint gonna happen unless TO gets paid by the hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JETS44JJJ 0 Posted March 16, 2006 there are players like Dillon (and Ray Lewis) that have had off field issues.By no means can anyone call them a "good guy"... and compared to TO, their stuff is worse because it's illegal. But the "bad guys" like Dillon and Ray Lewis were never detrimental to their teams the way TO has been. They weren't locker room cancers. Dude Corey Dillon was incredibly detrimental to his team. He was milking injuries because he didn't want to play and he was incredibly vocal in the press about not wanting to play for the bengals. The guy pretty much forced his way out of cincinatti. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daishadar 0 Posted March 16, 2006 If TO goes to the Pats, their offense will be a force to be reckoned with next year. Brady, Dillon, TO and Watson/Graham will be very strong. It might be worth taking on TO just for a year and then dropping him on his butt after he goes haywire. If it gets them back to the show it will be worth it. Although if I were the Pats I'd worry more about signing defenders, particularly DBs and LBs. I wouldn't be too surprised if they snag someone like Peterson. In any case I'm sure the Pats will make the right decision on who to sign. That's all they've done for the last several years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted March 16, 2006 jmho, but I think there's about a 0.2% chance that TO even knows where Foxboro is. There's no way New England spends the past 10 years developing a TEAM first mentality throughout their organization, rides that philosophy to 3 rings, then buries it all to bring in the most selfish player the NFL has ever seen. I dont care what he brings to the table on the field. New England would rather pack it in and go home rather than sign a guy to $8-10million per year when he's never shed the first drop of blood for this team. The whisker thin chance that does exist would occur ONLY if Bob Kraft is having a really bad day at some point and that brown acid he ate at Woodstock creeps up on him in the form of a Jimi Hendrix flashback and he signs TO thinking he's the second coming. Slim chance, but with 'bluejean' Bob, you never know. The Pats need to suck it up, bring in Moulds and KEYSHAWN, and get back to the business of winning titles exclusively with TEAM fist players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mr.T Posted March 16, 2006 So wait...TO is a cancer but Dillon and Keyshawn are/were team guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted March 16, 2006 So wait...TO is a cancer but Dillon and Keyshawn are/were team guys? Yesssssir, Rightttttoooo, Innnnddeeeed, thats a big 10-4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted March 16, 2006 So wait...TO is a cancer but Dillon and Keyshawn are/were team guys? as I stated, NONE of these guys can really be labeled "good" guys. TO has yet to go ANYWHERE where he didn't cause trouble. It doesn't matter if a team is winning/losing, well managed/poorly managed, etc. Dillon - played for years for the atrocious Bengals... he was their team despite the incompetence of their front office/ownership. The Dillon turmoil came to a head during his contract negotiations. IT all happened at the end of his time in CIN. It's not like he was in CIN for years as a locker room cancer. Keyshawn - may have matured a bit over the last season or two. He didn't have any problems in DAL and has established himself as one of the best blocking WR's in the game... something that I never thought I'd hear about Keyshawn. I mentioned Ray Lewis above too... there are tons of guys in the NFL that aren't "choir boys" but in the right situation can be a "team guy". Dillon, Keyshawn, Ray-Ray... all have shown that they can committ to a team and its goals. TO hasn't yet shown that. I'd be willing to add Steve Smith to that group. If things weren't going exactly how SSmith wanted, he'd be trouble in the locker room. But given the right situation, he can be a team guy. Moulds see, there's another guy. He was fine in BUF for years. but now, BUF's organization is in turmoil. Their coaches are leaving and everything's going to hell. Things are pretty grim in BUF... they're on the fringe of becoming the new Bengals. Moulds can't get his contract ironed out and he's screaming/sulking/crying. Is Moulds a "Cancer" in BUF? yeah, he is right now. But their organization has given him plenty to ###### about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mr.T Posted March 16, 2006 as I stated, NONE of these guys can really be labeled "good" guys. TO has yet to go ANYWHERE where he didn't cause trouble. It doesn't matter if a team is winning/losing, well managed/poorly managed, etc. Dillon - played for years for the atrocious Bengals... he was their team despite the incompetence of their front office/ownership. The Dillon turmoil came to a head during his contract negotiations. IT all happened at the end of his time in CIN. It's not like he was in CIN for years as a locker room cancer. Keyshawn - may have matured a bit over the last season or two. He didn't have any problems in DAL and has established himself as one of the best blocking WR's in the game... something that I never thought I'd hear about Keyshawn. I mentioned Ray Lewis above too... there are tons of guys in the NFL that aren't "choir boys" but in the right situation can be a "team guy". Dillon, Keyshawn, Ray-Ray... all have shown that they can committ to a team and its goals. TO hasn't yet shown that. I'd be willing to add Steve Smith to that group. If things weren't going exactly how SSmith wanted, he'd be trouble in the locker room. But given the right situation, he can be a team guy. TO wasn't a cancer when he first started with the Niners. Torwards the end he and Dillon were both major cancers. Keyshawn has always been a good run blocker. After TO's first season in Philly many could have easily thought he had matured. Maybe Keyshawn really did mature (it only took what, nearly thirty years?) or perhaps Parcells kept him in check. I didn't mention Lewis or others because as big a scumbag they may be off the field, I agree on the field they're team guys. I don't know about Steve Smith. He's certainly a short tempered smurf but fighting with a teammate? That's not a rare occurance in football. He's shown nothing that would lead me to believe he would disrupt the team. Chad Johnson on the other hand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites