Julian Peterson to Seahawks

[whoisjgalt 0]

linkage

 

The link says that they retain the cap space to match Hutchinson.

 

Seven years, $54m, almost $20m in guarantees. (Don't they realize that he gets hurt a lot?)

[56 0]

Wow, that is some pile of cash.

 

Also, Lavar Arrington is now going to want that kind of $.

[GeminiV 0]

linkage

 

The link says that they retain the cap space to match Hutchinson.

 

Seven years, $54m, almost $20m in guarantees. (Don't they realize that he gets hurt a lot?)

 

I wouldn't say he gets hurt a lot.

 

He just suffered one devastating injury that no defensive player has ever fully recovered from and looked like a shell of his former self last season.

 

That's all.

[whoisjgalt 0]

I wouldn't say he gets hurt a lot.

 

He just suffered one devastating injury that no defensive player has ever fully recovered from and looked like a shell of his former self last season.

 

That's all.

 

Sorry, he's been hurt a lot. Is that better? He's missed 13 games the last two seasons.

 

Still too much cash for him, IMO.

[t.j 35]

Wow, that is some pile of cash.

 

Also, Lavar Arrington is now going to want that kind of $.

 

Lavar Arrington already wanted that kind of $.

[RicemanX 20]

From a Niners fan's pov, he is an eletric player on the field, but it didn't seem like he wanted to step up as a leader.

[hipcheck 0]

There is no way ARRINGTON gets that kind of money.

 

The Market (NYG, MIA & CIN) just hasn't developed.

 

I predict he will land in NYC because the money will

 

be basically equal from all the suitors, and apparently

 

he feels The G-Men are the best fit for his services.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[phillybear 366]

A bit too much money, but I like the move. Needed a LB, and I hope Peterson looks more recovered from his injury. Now let's get Abraham.

 

Losing Hutchinson sucks, but let's see what other moves this frees up Seattle to make. Cautiously optimistic.

[Guest stevejohnson]

When healthy, Peterson is among the best LBs in football. The injury risk is a concern but I'm sure they put him through a pretty intensive physical before giving him that kind of money. As an Eagles fan, I would have loved for them to have taken a chance on Peterson instead of bringing back washed up S. Barber!

[football_scooter 0]

he's too small to be good without his speed.

 

He reportedly doesn't have the speed back since tearinghis achillies.

 

With all the $ the Niners have, and a defensive minded coaching staff in Nolan & Singletary, I would think if Peterson was anything resembling his former self that the Niners would have locked him up.

 

Ergo, I think he's going to be a bust in Seattle for the $ he's getting.

[phillybear 366]

Ergo, I think he's going to be a bust in Seattle for the $ he's getting.

 

Last year, Jamie Sharper was a bust. I am hoping that the Seahawks can achieve a .500 mark on the LB veteran FA signings.

[culboarder11 0]

Lofa Tatupu, Leroy Hill, and Julian Peterson.

 

Seattle has one of the best if not the best LB core in football. And they are all young....

[football_scooter 0]

Lofa Tatupu, Leroy Hill, and Julian Peterson.

 

Seattle has one of the best if not the best LB core in football. And they are all young....

 

Again - until you know what you're getting in Peterson, it's really very premature to be making statements like this.

 

All due respect, but Peterson was a shell of his former all-pro self last year. And it was essentially his 2nd year back from the injury since it happened early in the season.

 

Peterson will never be the sack specialist people thought he would be, he's a bit undersized for run stopping and he isn't particularly fast any more, which used to be his biggest strength.

 

I think he might be decent depending how the Seachikens use him, but I would be a bit more conservatie in my estimates of him at this time. Maybe time will prove me to be incorrect here, but I think Peterson is one of the more overrated players today, getting a big contract based on name value alone.

[GeminiV 0]

Wouldn't surprise me if this ended up being a one-year deal for $10 million.

 

Peterson's agent, Kevin Poston, said Tuesday evening the contract is for $54 million over seven years and includes $18.5 million guaranteed. The deal is worth $10 million in the first year, $18.4 million in the second and $23.5 million in the third.

 

No way he sees seasons two and three. $10 million for one year is pricey, but they've got silly cap room this season, might as well use it.

 

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9326883

[Deadpool 0]

Peterson is a good player, but it looks like the Seahawks just over-spent for a guy who likes to get hurt alot. Hope it turns out well for them.

 

And Gemini is right, this is a 1 year deal disquised as otherwise.

[culboarder11 0]

Again - until you know what you're getting in Peterson, it's really very premature to be making statements like this.

 

All due respect, but Peterson was a shell of his former all-pro self last year. And it was essentially his 2nd year back from the injury since it happened early in the season.

 

Peterson will never be the sack specialist people thought he would be, he's a bit undersized for run stopping and he isn't particularly fast any more, which used to be his biggest strength.

 

I think he might be decent depending how the Seachikens use him, but I would be a bit more conservatie in my estimates of him at this time. Maybe time will prove me to be incorrect here, but I think Peterson is one of the more overrated players today, getting a big contract based on name value alone.

 

Youre right. I'm sure you know much more than Seattle's FO.

[Vikings4ever 550]

Wouldn't surprise me if this ended up being a one-year deal for $10 million.

 

Peterson's agent, Kevin Poston, said Tuesday evening the contract is for $54 million over seven years and includes $18.5 million guaranteed. The deal is worth $10 million in the first year, $18.4 million in the second and $23.5 million in the third.

 

No way he sees seasons two and three. $10 million for one year is pricey, but they've got silly cap room this season, might as well use it.

 

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9326883

Something's screwy with those figures. He's getting paid 51.9 million in the first 3 years? So he's getting paid 2.1 million over the last 4? 525,000 a year?

 

Maybe they meant 10 million the first year (including signing bonus), 18.4 million through the first two years (so that'd be 8.4 million the second year), and 23.5 million through 3 years (5.1 million year three).

 

Or maybe the really are planning to cut him after this year.

 

Or maybe they figured they have cap space the next 3 years, then will have him cheap for the next 4 years.

 

Or maybe a combination of the last two, hedging their bets in case he gets hurt/craps out.

[football_scooter 0]

Youre right. I'm sure you know much more than Seattle's FO.

 

No, but I watched him play all last year, and saw that he was slow & ineffective. Add to that the fact that I'm literate and capable of absorbing the opinions of Sporting News, KFFL and other resources with expert opinion, and I can certainly formulate an educated opinion on the matter, with the benefit of 1st hand account to support it. Not to mention Mike Nolan & Mike Singletary, arguably the best evaluators of LB talent in the NFL passing on him.

 

Based on all of that, the Seahawks sure seem to have paid a hell of a lot of $ for Peterson's 2 sacks and 85 tackles.

 

But hey - good luck with that. I'm sure you believe he's one of the best LBs in football. But some of us prefer to live in 2006.

[culboarder11 0]

Oh I seriously forgot. I just remembered you are a 9ers fan!

 

I would be defensive if my favorite team was coming off a horrible year and just lost their best D player to the defending division champs. I would also be even more irritated if my team has made absolutely no improvement and has lost a lot of its best players even when they werent that good in the first place.

 

Also, by watching them all year, you should know that Peterson was only one year removed from his injury and wasnt expected to be 100% last year anyway. Even with his injury he was still the best player your team had.

 

In a 3-4 there are 4 linebackers, correct? Which means less chances to make tackles, especially when you are an OLB and are constantly getting double teamed because you has no other threats on defense. Seattle was a top 10 D before this, adding a speedy coverage LB like Peterson could make them top 5.

[Montana_god 0]

Oh I seriously forgot. I just remembered you are a 9ers fan!

 

I would be defensive if my favorite team was coming off a horrible year and just lost their best D player to the defending division champs. I would also be even more irritated if my team has made absolutely no improvement and has lost a lot of its best players even when they werent that good in the first place.

 

Also, by watching them all year, you should know that Peterson was only one year removed from his injury and wasnt expected to be 100% last year anyway. Even with his injury he was still the best player your team had.

 

In a 3-4 there are 4 linebackers, correct? Which means less chances to make tackles, especially when you are an OLB and are constantly getting double teamed because you has no other threats on defense. Seattle was a top 10 D before this, adding a speedy coverage LB like Peterson could make them top 5.

 

But your right, Mike Nolan and Mike Singletary are MUCH better coaches than Mike Holmgren, Ray Rhodes, and John Marshall.

 

 

Am a Niner fan and am piss*ed - Peterson may have been off a half step - but the man can play ANY POSITION on Defense - The Niners just don't want to spend the cash - Another great move ...uggghhhhhh

[football_scooter 0]

Oh I seriously forgot. I just remembered you are a 9ers fan!

 

I would be defensive if my favorite team was coming off a horrible year and just lost their best D player to the defending division champs. I would also be even more irritated if my team has made absolutely no improvement and has lost a lot of its best players even when they werent that good in the first place.

 

Also, by watching them all year, you should know that Peterson was only one year removed from his injury and wasnt expected to be 100% last year anyway. Even with his injury he was still the best player your team had.

 

In a 3-4 there are 4 linebackers, correct? Which means less chances to make tackles, especially when you are an OLB and are constantly getting double teamed because you has no other threats on defense. Seattle was a top 10 D before this, adding a speedy coverage LB like Peterson could make them top 5.

 

I am not defensive at all. I would have posted how pissed off I was if they spent that much money on a guy who is nothing like how he was before he tore his achillies.

 

The guy is a decent LB, but earlier comparisons to Ray Lewis will be unlikely to ever manifest.

 

Hey, if you're happy about the signing, good for you. I just suggest guarded optimism.

 

Many experts (TSN, for one) doubt he'll ever recover his speed if he hasn't by now.

 

Good luck with that though.

 

Am a Niner fan and am piss*ed - Peterson may have been off a half step - but the man can play ANY POSITION on Defense - The Niners just don't want to spend the cash - Another great move ...uggghhhhhh

 

I think it was a great move. That would have locked up a lot of money for a name-value player when the Niners have more than 1 need. He wasn't the best player on the team, and he was unlikely to be effective in the scheme Nolan wanted to use him in.

 

Perspective is a good thing. Niners aren't shy about spending right now - they're just being prudent. The fewer boat anchor contracts they sign, the better.

[Montana_god 0]

I am not defensive at all. I would have posted how pissed off I was if they spent that much money on a guy who is nothing like how he was before he tore his achillies.

 

The guy is a decent LB, but earlier comparisons to Ray Lewis will be unlikely to ever manifest.

 

Hey, if you're happy about the signing, good for you. I just suggest guarded optimism.

 

Many experts (TSN, for one) doubt he'll ever recover his speed if he hasn't by now.

 

Good luck with that though.

I think it was a great move. That would have locked up a lot of money for a name-value player when the Niners have more than 1 need. He wasn't the best player on the team, and he was unlikely to be effective in the scheme Nolan wanted to use him in.

 

Perspective is a good thing. Niners aren't shy about spending right now - they're just being prudent. The fewer boat anchor contracts they sign, the better.

Just don't agree - they got rid of Lloyd and brought in ABryant? On D they drop their best corner ( when healthy ) in Plummer, and two of their most explosive players in Peterson and Carter - They have more than one need - but on D they we're close - another end and safety help was all that was needed IMO -

[football_scooter 0]

Just don't agree - they got rid of Lloyd and brought in ABryant? On D they drop their best corner ( when healthy ) in Plummer, and two of their most explosive players in Peterson and Carter - They have more than one need - but on D they we're close - another end and safety help was all that was needed IMO -

 

I disagree that Peterson was part of the success. He looked like a bad fit in Nolan's defense. I wasn't impressed with him, and I will admit that I was pretty turned off by him when he held out like a little girl so he could get "ray lewis money" then rewarded us with a torn achillies.

 

I kinda think Peterson owed the niners something. Good riddance.

 

As for Lloyd/Bryant, between the two malcontents, give me the bigger, stronger, more athletic one every day. Bryant will block, he'll tackle, he'll go across the middle, he'll play physical - all things Lloyd wouldn't do. He was one dimentional and that won't help Alex Smith or the run game to develop. I was always a bigger fan of Battle, even if he is undersized.

 

In any case, I'm not all that sad to see either of them go. But hey, we'll agree to disagree.

 

I'm reserving judgement until after the NFL draft is over, and all "needs have been addressed". I have some confidence that good things are ahead. This is actually a solid year to trade down - 100X better than last year's situation. 6th is a desirable place to be. Or maybe they take a blue chipper - they can afford to. Either way, I'm not sweating Lloyd or Peterson. They were both kind of annoying, despite the LB upside (IF his speed comes back) and the occasional circus catch (Lloyd). not worth it for the money or the level of maturity they lack.

[uubeee 0]

Not a niner fan, but lived in the Bay Area for 31 years (until recently).

 

Peterson is better than you make him out to be Scooter. He was out with an injury and was a step off last year. He should get it back this year. He is injured too much, but he can be a monster on the field.

 

Granted, I see your point about paying that much for a guy when your team is in rebuild mode. However, you have to rebuild around some key components. Peterson is a bigger loss than most will see.

 

Lloyd can make some amazing catches, but drop some easy ones too. No big loss. However, I would be reserved about Bryant too. The guy has been let go now by 2 teams. Niether the Cowboys or Browns saw fit to retain him. There is a reason for that.

 

just my $.02

[football_scooter 0]

However, I would be reserved about Bryant too. The guy has been let go now by 2 teams. Niether the Cowboys or Browns saw fit to retain him. There is a reason for that.

 

I view Bryant with guarded optimism. Sometimes a talented young guy needs to be humbled before he can rise up. I'm hoping that's the case with Bryant. The kid can play and he's more versitile than Lloyd. He also costs less.

 

But like I said, guarded optimism.

 

 

As for Julian "show me the money" Peterson, I think he'll have something like 4 sacks and 85 tackles in Seattle, and for the money he's getting, that won't cut it.

[culboarder11 0]

As for Julian "show me the money" Peterson, I think he'll have something like 4 sacks and 85 tackles in Seattle, and for the money he's getting, that won't cut it.

 

If healthy Peterson is one of the best LBs in the league, easily. Obviously, Seattle thinks he is healthy or else they wouldnt have gave him a big contract. Its not like that big contract will hurt them anyways, they are still well under the cap, even after signing Ashworth. With the signing, Seattle's LB core is one of the best, if not the best in the league. And Peterson's versatility will help out all over. His coverage skills will be a huge help to a team that plays in the pass happy NFC West and has had a history of trouble trying to stop TEs and WRs going across the middle.

 

Seattle was a top 10 D before this, and might be a top 5 D with Peterson.

[football_scooter 0]

Seattle was a top 10 D before this, and might be a top 5 D with Peterson.

 

Time will tell. I would be cautious in overrating him until he proves that he has his speed back. He's not an effective run stopper, and if he's indeed lost a step then he's not going to be nearly as effective in pass defense.

 

Your estimation here is definately premature though.

 

My $.02 (more like $.07 at this point)

[ttowndawgs 0]

From a Niners fan's pov, he is an eletric player on the field, but it didn't seem like he wanted to step up as a leader.

 

 

Good thing, he doesnt have to be the man on this team, because we already have the 'man' on D.