Unofficial Eagles Fans Thread

[Guest stevejohnson]

Basically the mods are allowing Eagles haters like Portis 26 and Scooter to come into a thread, start trouble and get it closed. Most of the post were legit Eagles talk so what is the problem? Why not just erase the negitive post instead of closing a whole thread? I'm starting to get the feeling their is an anti-Eagle/Philadelphia vibe here......

[Portis26 0]

Mods dont like bashing.. but its natural to bash teams within the division... its never personal

 

anyways... here are my thoughts...

 

Looking at the Iggles from a divisional rival perspective, I think their main need is interior defensive lineman. I think letting Corey Simon walk last year hurt bably, as they couldn't stop the run AT ALL! They brought in Howard to play opposite Javon, but that doesn't address the interior.

 

Most mock drafts say Lendale at #15, but I personally think they will go BRODRICK BUNKLEY if he is there... but most likely he won't .... Maybe they draft a "bigger" back inthe later rounds... maybe Gerald Riggs Jr.

 

I can't see them drafting a WR at the spot, as I don't think the WR from Florida is even worth that spot... nor any WR in the draft (@ #15)

 

Link

 

all in all they need Dlineman - IMO

[phillybear 366]

IBTL post pad.

 

Carry on.

[Crestwood 0]

Mods dont like bashing.. but its natural to bash teams within the division... its never personal

 

anyways... here are my thoughts...

 

Looking at the Iggles from a divisional rival perspective, I think their main need is interior defensive lineman. I think letting Corey Simon walk last year hurt bably, as they couldn't stop the run AT ALL! They brought in Howard to play opposite Javon, but that doesn't address the interior.

 

Most mock drafts say Lendale at #15, but I personally think they will go BRODRICK BUNKLEY if he is there... but most likely he won't .... Maybe they draft a "bigger" back inthe later rounds... maybe Gerald Riggs Jr.

 

I can't see them drafting a WR at the spot, as I don't think the WR from Florida is even worth that spot... nor any WR in the draft (@ #15)

 

Link

 

all in all they need Dlineman - IMO

 

 

dude, you are way overvaluing corey simon. he didnt play all that well the last few years he was in philly, and was always out of shape, and always disgruntled. he also didnt do much in indy last year either (only 35 tackles, no sacks, only one forced fumble, no fumble recoveries, no ints. his best game he only had 4 tackles in. big deal)

 

the guy isnt even worth the 2 million a year, and yet he wanted a long term, 5-6 million dollar per year deal.

 

i'm happy he left town, the only thing that sucked about him leaving was that the eagles couldnt trade him (he blew up every possibile trade the eagles had going; they had a deal with the vikings (i think) then the ravens, which both fell apart with his rediculous contract demands

[football_scooter 0]

Why do you kep referring to me as an "Eagles hater"? I am indifferent to the Eagles. I gave you my honest opinion about them, and graded them based on their off-season. You didn't like my opinion, so you called me a "hater".

 

So I guess anyone who doesn't "drink the cool aide" (sic) is a "hater" to you? Maybe you should title the topic "Real EAGLES fans who agree with me and write flattering things about the Eagles" when you start your next exclusionary topic telling people not to respond unless they're Eagles fans - particularly "real" fans like you.

 

Way to call me out. You are truly a person who needs to find a new forum. You start a topic that and it gets locked 2 times because you ask for opinions then get into it and insult anyone who disagrees with you. Then they get locked - so there's your answer. Good luck and god bless.

 

 

Sorry Fumbles - he called me out specifically and thus I responded. Rather civilly, too I might add. You have no idea how hard it was to resist calling him a homer douche, but I managed to do so.

[football_scooter 0]

Let's try again:

 

initially posted by football_scooer

I give them a D so far. I have yet to see them make what I consider an "impact move" - they should have made a move for Moulds or Burleson, two of the better WRs who were available this offseason. The defense is somewhat mediocre and they still need to add a tough "up the gut" back for short yardage, or Westbrook will likely break down again. Plus McNafro is a bit iffy - as I've read, a sports hernia is about the easiest injury to recur, and with McNabb'sathletic style of play doubly so. I'd be very cautious with him early in the season, and a less mobile McNabb doesn't bode well for their chances. With the improvements to Dallas and NYG maturing as an offense, I think it will be difficult for them to compete.

[Guest stevejohnson]

Why do you kep referring to me as an "Eagles hater"? I am indifferent to the Eagles. I gave you my honest opinion about them, and graded them based on their off-season. You didn't like my opinion, so you called me a "hater".

 

So I guess anyone who doesn't "drink the cool aide" (sic) is a "hater" to you? Maybe you should title the topic "Real EAGLES fans who agree with me and write flattering things about the Eagles" when you start your next exclusionary topic telling people not to respond unless they're Eagles fans - particularly "real" fans like you.

 

Way to call me out. You are truly a person who needs to find a new forum. You start a topic that and it gets locked 2 times because you ask for opinions then get into it and insult anyone who disagrees with you. Then they get locked - so there's your answer. Good luck and god bless.

Sorry Fumbles - he called me out specifically and thus I responded. Rather civilly, too I might add. You have no idea how hard it was to resist calling him a homer douche, but I managed to do so.

 

 

Yawn, once again swims past the bait.....

 

Mods dont like bashing.. but its natural to bash teams within the division... its never personal

 

anyways... here are my thoughts...

 

Looking at the Iggles from a divisional rival perspective, I think their main need is interior defensive lineman. I think letting Corey Simon walk last year hurt bably, as they couldn't stop the run AT ALL! They brought in Howard to play opposite Javon, but that doesn't address the interior.

 

Most mock drafts say Lendale at #15, but I personally think they will go BRODRICK BUNKLEY if he is there... but most likely he won't .... Maybe they draft a "bigger" back inthe later rounds... maybe Gerald Riggs Jr.

 

I can't see them drafting a WR at the spot, as I don't think the WR from Florida is even worth that spot... nor any WR in the draft (@ #15)

 

Link

 

all in all they need Dlineman - IMO

 

 

Zero chance they draft a WR in round one. No one available is good enough to go in that spot. I think they will go OL, maybe DT.

 

By the way, as long as the Deadskins have M. Brunell at QB, they have NO CHANCE to win the NFC. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to see them regress this year and miss the playoffs all together. Look for Gibbs to be back in NASCAR this time next year......

[Force of Two 0]

Yawn, once again swims past the bait.....

 

Why is that you need to keep posting them, arguing with people over the Eagles, getting them locked, making the normal Eagles fans look like a bunch of jerkstores?

 

every where you have posted it seems someone doesnt like you....maybe its something with you.

 

That all being said I want

 

Bunckley in round 1 if hes there

 

Stovall in round 2

[Guest stevejohnson]

Why is that you need to keep posting them, arguing with people over the Eagles, getting them locked, making the normal Eagles fans look like a bunch of jerkstores?

 

every where you have posted it seems someone doesnt like you....maybe its something with you.

 

That all being said I want

 

Bunckley in round 1 if hes there

 

Stovall in round 2

 

 

Wait a minute here......1st off, I see nothing wrong with putting an Eagles thread together. Second, the only problems I have had are with Homer and Scooter (Portis seems to just like to go after ANY Eagles fan). Third, how did I get the last thread locked? I didn't insult ANYONE and actually didn't even have much time to add much to it. It was the other guys that got the thread locked, not me. Finally, how is me asking opinions on the Eagles make anyone else look like a "jerkstore"?

 

As for your Eagles point, no way Bunckley is there when they pick unless they move up. There are some really good players at the top of this draft but once you get past 10 or so there is a big drop off so I would like to see them get a little aggressive and move up if possible......

[football_scooter 0]

Why is that you need to keep posting them, arguing with people over the Eagles, getting them locked, making the normal Eagles fans look like a bunch of jerkstores?

 

every where you have posted it seems someone doesnt like you....maybe its something with you.

 

Amen.

 

And he ignored my opinion on the Eagles yet again.

 

Fascinating.

 

Maybe if I post it a 3rd time he'll get it?

 

Let's try....

I give them a D so far. I have yet to see them make what I consider an "impact move" - they should have made a move for Moulds or Burleson, two of the better WRs who were available this offseason. The defense is somewhat mediocre and they still need to add a tough "up the gut" back for short yardage, or Westbrook will likely break down again. Plus McNafro is a bit iffy - as I've read, a sports hernia is about the easiest injury to recur, and with McNabb'sathletic style of play doubly so. I'd be very cautious with him early in the season, and a less mobile McNabb doesn't bode well for their chances. With the improvements to Dallas and NYG maturing as an offense, I think it will be difficult for them to compete.

 

Does that opinion make me a "hater"?

[Guest stevejohnson]

Amen.

 

And he ignored my opinion on the Eagles yet again.

 

Fascinating.

 

Maybe if I post it a 3rd time he'll get it?

 

Let's try....

Does that opinion make me a "hater"?

 

Yawn, man this is getting old....please stop stalking me already! If you hate me so much, maybe you should stop posting to me and following me in every thread.

 

dude, you are way overvaluing corey simon. he didnt play all that well the last few years he was in philly, and was always out of shape, and always disgruntled. he also didnt do much in indy last year either (only 35 tackles, no sacks, only one forced fumble, no fumble recoveries, no ints. his best game he only had 4 tackles in. big deal)

 

the guy isnt even worth the 2 million a year, and yet he wanted a long term, 5-6 million dollar per year deal.

 

i'm happy he left town, the only thing that sucked about him leaving was that the eagles couldnt trade him (he blew up every possibile trade the eagles had going; they had a deal with the vikings (i think) then the ravens, which both fell apart with his rediculous contract demands

 

 

I agree that Simon did over value himself and clearly had a problem staying in shape but my main issue with how the Eagles front office has handled guys like him, TO, and even Trotter the 1st time around is that they never get anything of value for these guys, instead deciding to just cut them to prove a point.....hell, a 5th round draft pick is better then nothing.....

[cmh6476 1,023]

chiefs > eagles

[Portis26 0]

Yawn, once again swims past the bait.....

Zero chance they draft a WR in round one. No one available is good enough to go in that spot. I think they will go OL, maybe DT.

 

By the way, as long as the Deadskins have M. Brunell at QB, they have NO CHANCE to win the NFC. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to see them regress this year and miss the playoffs all together. Look for Gibbs to be back in NASCAR this time next year......

 

 

They have no choice then to go D or O line... they have Gafney/Brown as the WRs - the cou;dn't stop the run at all last year.

 

As for the Skins (since YOU referenced them) - Gibbs is the HC, he is no longer a coodinator... so he acts like the CEO of the team... he has 2/3 years left then Williams takes over. Brunell, I can see 1 MAYBE 2 years in him... and I don't know how they will regress... when they didn't lose anyone and gain talen ton both sides of the ball... I hate say this, but I think the Cowfags are the team to beat .... they alos have a OLDER QB in Bledsoe, but no one seems to talk about that... heck Brad Johnson is 36 and probably had arguablly the best season for QBs not named Manning or Palmer... ( and im sure you can name a few more - but u know what I mean).

 

Philly D is no longer dominate, the Howard addition is a nice one, but they need interior help -- IMO

[Guest stevejohnson]

They have no choice then to go D or O line... they have Gafney/Brown as the WRs - the cou;dn't stop the run at all last year.

 

As for the Skins (since YOU referenced them) - Gibbs is the HC, he is no longer a coodinator... so he acts like the CEO of the team... he has 2/3 years left then Williams takes over. Brunell, I can see 1 MAYBE 2 years in him... and I don't know how they will regress... when they didn't lose anyone and gain talen ton both sides of the ball... I hate say this, but I think the Cowfags are the team to beat .... they alos have a OLDER QB in Bledsoe, but no one seems to talk about that... heck Brad Johnson is 36 and probably had arguablly the best season for QBs not named Manning or Palmer... ( and im sure you can name a few more - but u know what I mean).

 

Philly D is no longer dominate, the Howard addition is a nice one, but they need interior help -- IMO

 

As much as I hate to say it, I agree that the Cowboys are the class of the division right now but they still have pretty big holes on the OL. Bledsoe is a good QB if protected but when the blocking breaks down he becomes a sack/turn over machine.

[Force of Two 0]

I agree that Bunckley will likely be gone and they will need to move up to get him. Im not really excited about any guy from 11-18 so maybe we can move down if the guy we want is gone.

 

And as Ive said before Im not here to fight with anyone....I want honest Eagles opinions without the blatant homerism or blatant hatred (Internally with the Eagles or external knuckleheads)

 

Ive said before that Im annoyed with this team and its spin doctors (Spadaro) trying to sell a bill of goods. 20 Million dollars are still left AND this time around they only have Lewis and Dawkins who really need to be extended at this time....Dawkins probably wont get extended anyway and they will use Considine in his place next year...I dont think that is a good move.

 

IF they were going to have this much money AND not spend it then they should have nipped the Owens thing in the bud last April and guaranteed his third year. Then we would have the receiver we need without issue. But the Front Office (which I think is Classless) chose to spill the info and make Owens look like the bad guy. Now this doesnt absolve that nimrod from what he did but take a look at some other Eagles to do's from this organization

 

Forget about letting old guys walk because if that's the philosophy then it is what it is but

 

1994/1995 (Not sure which year) they tried lowering a few guys contracts at the last minute knowing they would have no choice but to accept it since no other team would be able to give them even that much. Not too many people remember that being Luries first year.

 

Damon Moore/Jeremiah Trotter 2001- Both got offered deals in mid season ala the way the Eagles always do and both turned them down hoping to get full market deals. Moore got hurt...and the Eagles didnt even give the guy an invite to camp....Trotter stayed healthy and they still didnt pay him (which I believe cost them two NFC title games...Jurevicoious only just now came to a stop and would JT ever get ran over by Foster twice on one play on his way to the end zone)

 

I dont blame them for Moore but they want to have it both ways.

 

Lowering Runyans salary Half a Mill last year was a jerk move on the front office part....They only by sheer luck didnt have it bite them in the posterior because Runyan doesnt want to move his family. They didnt need the 500K for any reason other than to take it away from him.

 

I got more but Ill say it in another post

 

chiefs > eagles

At least for the first 24 Minutes of a game.... Just messing with you...right now your statement is true

[Guest stevejohnson]

I agree that Bunckley will likely be gone and they will need to move up to get him. Im not really excited about any guy from 11-18 so maybe we can move down if the guy we want is gone.

 

And as Ive said before Im not here to fight with anyone....I want honest Eagles opinions without the blatant homerism or blatant hatred (Internally with the Eagles or external knuckleheads)

 

Ive said before that Im annoyed with this team and its spin doctors (Spadaro) trying to sell a bill of goods. 20 Million dollars are still left AND this time around they only have Lewis and Dawkins who really need to be extended at this time....Dawkins probably wont get extended anyway and they will use Considine in his place next year...I dont think that is a good move.

 

IF they were going to have this much money AND not spend it then they should have nipped the Owens thing in the bud last April and guaranteed his third year. Then we would have the receiver we need without issue. But the Front Office (which I think is Classless) chose to spill the info and make Owens look like the bad guy. Now this doesnt absolve that nimrod from what he did but take a look at some other Eagles to do's from this organization

 

Forget about letting old guys walk because if that's the philosophy then it is what it is but

 

1994/1995 (Not sure which year) they tried lowering a few guys contracts at the last minute knowing they would have no choice but to accept it since no other team would be able to give them even that much. Not too many people remember that being Luries first year.

 

Damon Moore/Jeremiah Trotter 2001- Both got offered deals in mid season ala the way the Eagles always do and both turned them down hoping to get full market deals. Moore got hurt...and the Eagles didnt even give the guy an invite to camp....Trotter stayed healthy and they still didnt pay him (which I believe cost them two NFC title games...Jurevicoious only just now came to a stop and would JT ever get ran over by Foster twice on one play on his way to the end zone)

 

I dont blame them for Moore but they want to have it both ways.

 

Lowering Runyans salary Half a Mill last year was a jerk move on the front office part....They only by sheer luck didnt have it bite them in the posterior because Runyan doesnt want to move his family. They didnt need the 500K for any reason other than to take it away from him.

 

I got more but Ill say it in another post

At least for the first 24 Minutes of a game.... Just messing with you...right now your statement is true

 

You are right on and that is exactly what I meant about "keeping it real"! The Eagles front office has been playing to win the "salary cap championship" for the last few years and now the product on the field is starting to pay the price! Maybe they have some sort of "secret plan" to use that 20 million but base on past track record, that money will stay right in Lurie's pocket while we watch washed up bums like S. Barber get burned by the likes of J.Shockey and J. Whiten!

[MahSoonerz 0]

Finally, IBTL.

[Force of Two 0]

I also dont like when people try to sell Eagle fans that this offense doesnt need a great wide receiver because it was obvious that a top tier guy turned this offense from dink and dunk screen passes to a down the field at any time big play that could burn you from anywhere.....

 

I will grant them that none of these guys are available now or even at the beginning of FA but last year if they were going to play this song and dance with TO then shouldnt they have looked at MUhammed or Plax?

 

Just once I want to see the Eagles go all in!

 

Two more things....Lurie says that the teams that make those big moves dont always get to the promised land....I dont think he was paying attention when Kearse and Owens came and presto they were in the bowl...No matter what we say about Kearse at this point....he was changing offenses in the early part of 04

 

and lastly Im tired of hearing him compare this team to the Patriots or Steelers ....they have hardware that we dont have.

 

 

 

Finally, IBTL.

What is IBTL....I still havent figured it out after seeing it everywhere

[Guest stevejohnson]

I also dont like when people try to sell Eagle fans that this offense doesnt need a great wide receiver because it was obvious that a top tier guy turned this offense from dink and dunk screen passes to a down the field at any time big play that could burn you from anywhere.....

 

I will grant them that none of these guys are available now or even at the beginning of FA but last year if they were going to play this song and dance with TO then shouldnt they have looked at MUhammed or Plax?

 

Just once I want to see the Eagles go all in!

 

Two more things....Lurie says that the teams that make those big moves dont always get to the promised land....I dont think he was paying attention when Kearse and Owens came and presto they were in the bowl...No matter what we say about Kearse at this point....he was changing offenses in the early part of 04

 

and lastly Im tired of hearing him compare this team to the Patriots or Steelers ....they have hardware that we dont have.

What is IBTL....I still havent figured it out after seeing it everywhere

 

 

You are right on with the Eagles! Finally a true Philadelphia fan!

 

IBTL = In Before The Lock. If you haven't notice a few people (really one in particular) has worked to get every Eagles thread I have started locked. If we all just ignore this guy, hopefully he will go away!

[Force of Two 0]

You are right on with the Eagles! Finally a true Philadelphia fan!

 

IBTL = In Before The Lock. If you haven't notice a few people (really one in particular) has worked to get every Eagles thread I have started locked. If we all just ignore this guy, hopefully he will go away!

 

All of this being said...I still like Reid and Like #5.....and I think this team can still do something but they are fooling themselves if they think that Owens and Injuries did them in last year..

 

All of the moves they made are OK...Hell we needed a backup QB and TE and Howard and Barber are upgrades over what they have but there isnt a difference maker in the bunch. Even if Howard gets 11 sacks, it means that Kearse has to bounce back as well.

 

I dont think that Barber will be the guys sticking the TE....that previously went to Emmons who played Jones current position....However I dont think "air guitar/bowtie" is up to snuff and its why I wanted Peterson.

 

I also dont think that trading up for anything other than Bunckley this year is worth it (unless of course its for Bush, which isnt happenign for any reason)

[football_scooter 0]

Yawn, man this is getting old....please stop stalking me already! If you hate me so much, maybe you should stop posting to me and following me in every thread.

 

Uh, I never said I hated you. I just offered my opinion on your topic. so now the very act of responding when you post a topic is considered "stalking"? You might want to see somoene about that paranoid schitzophrenia...

 

besides the fact that you called me out in the very 1st post.

Basically the mods are allowing Eagles haters like Portis 26 and Scooter to come into a thread, start trouble and get it closed.

Perhaps if you don't want me to respond to a topic, you won't mention my name in the very 1st post/sentence when you start it, or lie about me (calling me an "Eagles hater"). I dunno - just a suggestion...

 

 

back ON TOPIC, here's what I posted (now for my 4th attempt at responding to your topic with a thoughtful post about how I think the Eagles offseason is going)

I give them a D so far. I have yet to see them make what I consider an "impact move" - they should have made a move for Moulds or Burleson, two of the better WRs who were available this offseason. The defense is somewhat mediocre and they still need to add a tough "up the gut" back for short yardage, or Westbrook will likely break down again. Plus McNafro is a bit iffy - as I've read, a sports hernia is about the easiest injury to recur, and with McNabb'sathletic style of play doubly so. I'd be very cautious with him early in the season, and a less mobile McNabb doesn't bode well for their chances. With the improvements to Dallas and NYG maturing as an offense, I think it will be difficult for them to compete.

 

So what - do you

* Disagree that they need to go after an impact WR?

* Disagree that their division appears to be getting stronger while they stagnate?

* Disagree that they need a tough inside runner to spare Westbrook the wear & tear that causes him to be injured annually?

 

I am trying to be thoughtful and engaging here, but jeez you make it difficult with all this paranoia. Is it so bad that I gave them a D? You gave them a C-. So we're pretty close in our opinions of them from that perspective, no?

 

Just trying to keep the thougtful dialogue going...not even mad that you keep calling me out and misrepresenting me.

 

Hey, maybe force of two can respond - he's a "real eagles fan" after all...I'm curious if he disagrees with my assesment, and why...is Reggie Touchdown Brown better/farther along than I think? have the Eagles signed an inside runner? Is there one in their system already that I don't know about?

[Portis26 0]

You are right on and that is exactly what I meant about "keeping it real"!

 

 

I pray that the Eagles take Lendale "I need a Bra" White or a Chad Jackson

[phillybear 366]

IBTL redux, sequel, and Director's cut.

[Guest stevejohnson]

Uh, I never said I hated you. I just offered my opinion on your topic. so now the very act of responding when you post a topic is considered "stalking"? You might want to see somoene about that paranoid schitzophrenia...

 

besides the fact that you called me out in the very 1st post. Perhaps if you don't want me to respond to a topic, you won't mention my name in the very 1st post/sentence when you start it, or lie about me (calling me an "Eagles hater"). I dunno - just a suggestion...

back ON TOPIC, here's what I posted (now for my 4th attempt at responding to your topic with a thoughtful post about how I think the Eagles offseason is going)

So what - do you

* Disagree that they need to go after an impact WR?

* Disagree that their division appears to be getting stronger while they stagnate?

* Disagree that they need a tough inside runner to spare Westbrook the wear & tear that causes him to be injured annually?

 

I am trying to be thoughtful and engaging here, but jeez you make it difficult with all this paranoia. Is it so bad that I gave them a D? You gave them a C-. So we're pretty close in our opinions of them from that perspective, no?

 

 

Just trying to keep the thougtful dialogue going...not even mad that you keep calling me out and misrepresenting me.

 

Hey, maybe force of two can respond - he's a "real eagles fan" after all...I'm curious if he disagrees with my assesment, and why...is Reggie Touchdown Brown better/farther along than I think? have the Eagles signed an inside runner? Is there one in their system already that I don't know about?

 

Nice try but I'm not trying to get the thread locked by with you.

 

I agree with some of your points about the Eagles but at this point, you are on the "pay no mind" list with Homer so don't expect any more responses from me.

 

Peace.......

[Force of Two 0]

Uh, I never said I hated you. I just offered my opinion on your topic. so now the very act of responding when you post a topic is considered "stalking"? You might want to see somoene about that paranoid schitzophrenia...

 

besides the fact that you called me out in the very 1st post. Perhaps if you don't want me to respond to a topic, you won't mention my name in the very 1st post/sentence when you start it, or lie about me (calling me an "Eagles hater"). I dunno - just a suggestion...

back ON TOPIC, here's what I posted (now for my 4th attempt at responding to your topic with a thoughtful post about how I think the Eagles offseason is going)

So what - do you

* Disagree that they need to go after an impact WR?

* Disagree that their division appears to be getting stronger while they stagnate?

* Disagree that they need a tough inside runner to spare Westbrook the wear & tear that causes him to be injured annually?

 

I am trying to be thoughtful and engaging here, but jeez you make it difficult with all this paranoia. Is it so bad that I gave them a D? You gave them a C-. So we're pretty close in our opinions of them from that perspective, no?

 

Just trying to keep the thougtful dialogue going...not even mad that you keep calling me out and misrepresenting me.

 

Hey, maybe force of two can respond - he's a "real eagles fan" after all...I'm curious if he disagrees with my assesment, and why...is Reggie Touchdown Brown better/farther along than I think? have the Eagles signed an inside runner? Is there one in their system already that I don't know about?

 

As McNabb would say "keep my name out of your mouth"..

 

I agree they needed an impact WR (though I dont agree that one was really out there)...Burleson would have been alright with me however.

 

Absolutely they need a between the tackles runner...but I dont think it will be Lendale White (I thought last year they should have gotten Eric Shelton in the draft)...I imagine they will address this with some slop that ends up on the waiver wire.

 

I dont like that the Division appears to be doing things and the Eagles arent...Especially if Arrington goes to the G-Men. The Eagles are obviously fooled by what happened last year and blame it solely on Owens....they will need at least two players in this draft to contribute right away.

 

My grade (since you gave one) on their offseason is a C- (not far from where you are)

[football_scooter 0]

As McNabb would say "keep my name out of your mouth"..

 

I agree they needed an impact WR (though I dont agree that one was really out there)...Burleson would have been alright with me however.

 

Absolutely they need a between the tackles runner...but I dont think it will be Lendale White (I thought last year they should have gotten Eric Shelton in the draft)...I imagine they will address this with some slop that ends up on the waiver wire.

 

I dont like that the Division appears to be doing things and the Eagles arent...Especially if Arrington goes to the G-Men. The Eagles are obviously fooled by what happened last year and blame it solely on Owens....they will need at least two players in this draft to contribute right away.

 

My grade (since you gave one) on their offseason is a C- (not far from where you are)

 

 

Appreciate the sanity check - how is McNabb coming along? Well enough that the Eagles aren't worried about a backup? Who's the backup QB in Philly these days, Garcia or McMahon? Are you concerned by their lack of talent/durability in the event that McNabb goes down again?

[Guest stevejohnson]

McMahon signed with the Vikings weeks ago!

[Force of Two 0]

Appreciate the sanity check - how is McNabb coming along? Well enough that the Eagles aren't worried about a backup? Who's the backup QB in Philly these days, Garcia or McMahon? Are you concerned by their lack of talent/durability in the event that McNabb goes down again?

 

McNabb supposedly is almost 100%...Garcia is the backup and McMahon is gone....And I am still worried if #5 goes down because I dont believe that Garcia has that much left in the tank and is an injury risk himself....but that being said they werent going to get Kitna and some other guys like Greise think they still have a shot at starting so I think Garcia is the best that they could come up with.....I dont like Collins either but maybe I would have considered him.

 

Im not enamored with the whole team..I think it needed a real playmaker/difference maker on defense if they werent going to make this offense back into the race car it was in 04....I think the Defense was better in 00-03 than it is now so I have no reason to think that the dink and dunk field position offense that they played then is going to win them games.....that requires the ability to get short yardage first downs and they have no back that can do that consistently. Plus I think that this offense lacks some imagination.

 

How was Morninwheg as a coordinator for you guys (I think your a Niners fans right?)

 

I have also neglected that this team needs a kick returner who can at least be a threat to take one to the house at any time....

 

I think this can be addressed in the draft but likely he would have to be a Defensive back becuase it appears that you can only have so many Westbrook and Moats type players at one position

[football_scooter 0]

How was Morninwheg as a coordinator for you guys (I think your a Niners fans right?)

 

Indeed, Niner fan.

 

Never impressed with Morninwheg - thought he lacked imagination in his schemes. Everything seemed predictible/scripted. It wasn't so much one dimentional, as it was boring. Obvious response to obvious situations, if that makes sense...like 3rd and 4, it was a 5 step drop pass play every time. I mean, just once shouldn't you try to rush the ball, or run a screen? End around maybe? Something interesting like a WR or RB option?

 

But no - predictiblity and poor results.

 

At least that's what I remember....of course, you never remember the good games.

[Force of Two 0]

Indeed, Niner fan.

 

Never impressed with Morninwheg - thought he lacked imagination in his schemes. Everything seemed predictible/scripted. It wasn't so much one dimentional, as it was boring. Obvious response to obvious situations, if that makes sense...like 3rd and 4, it was a 5 step drop pass play every time. I mean, just once shouldn't you try to rush the ball, or run a screen? End around maybe? Something interesting like a WR or RB option?

 

But no - predictiblity and poor results.

 

At least that's what I remember....of course, you never remember the good games.

Thats what I was afraid of...The Eagles also run very vanilla on certain situations and lack any imagination the past few years

 

I gots a bad feeling about Marty

[NewbieJr 541]

Going into 2006, I'd have to say that the Eagles are probably going to be the odds on favorite to finish in the cellar of the NFC East.

With their disasterous 2005, plus their relatively inactive offseason, coupled by the big signings of the Cowboys and Redskins, I don't think too many people are looking at Philly as a playoff contender.

 

For a change, I like it that way.

[Crestwood 0]

Yawn, man this is getting old....please stop stalking me already! If you hate me so much, maybe you should stop posting to me and following me in every thread.

I agree that Simon did over value himself and clearly had a problem staying in shape but my main issue with how the Eagles front office has handled guys like him, TO, and even Trotter the 1st time around is that they never get anything of value for these guys, instead deciding to just cut them to prove a point.....hell, a 5th round draft pick is better then nothing.....

 

 

dude, you missed the point i made about the eagles had deals in place with a few teams for simon (i heard as high as a 2nd rd pick baltimore was offering. or was it the bills? not sure), but the reason why a deal was never made was b/c simon and the prospective tam couldnt agree with a new contract, hence no trade could be made. its not the eagles fault that they couldnt get compensation. simon was being unreasonable with potential teams, and the deals were nixed.

 

 

with this being said, the iggles finaly just let him go because:

A.) the eagles felt he was anywhere near worth the money he was asking for in a new contract. like not even close

B.) they already heard that simon was going to be a disgruntled player if the frnachise tagged him, and already with the TO problem on their hands, they didnt need another pai in the ass.

C.) if the did tag him, he would have been paid around 6 million, which is no where near what the eagles felt he was worth.

D. simon was already annoying the eagles, with his unprofessionalism, with recent lack of production on the field, and showing up to camp poorly out of shape for three years in a row.

 

 

why they think they drafted a DT with their 1st round pick plast year (patterson)? he was out of town one way or another

 

thats why they cut him

[Guest stevejohnson]

dude, you missed the point i made about the eagles had deals in place with a few teams for simon (i heard as high as a 2nd rd pick baltimore was offering. or was it the bills? not sure), but the reason why a deal was never made was b/c simon and the prospective tam couldnt agree with a new contract, hence no trade could be made. its not the eagles fault that they couldnt get compensation. simon was being unreasonable with potential teams, and the deals were nixed.

with this being said, the iggles finaly just let him go because:

A.) the eagles felt he was anywhere near worth the money he was asking for in a new contract. like not even close

B.) they already heard that simon was going to be a disgruntled player if the frnachise tagged him, and already with the TO problem on their hands, they didnt need another pai in the ass.

C.) if the did tag him, he would have been paid around 6 million, which is no where near what the eagles felt he was worth.

D. simon was already annoying the eagles, with his unprofessionalism, with recent lack of production on the field, and showing up to camp poorly out of shape for three years in a row.

why they think they drafted a DT with their 1st round pick plast year (patterson)? he was out of town one way or another

 

thats why they cut him

 

Even if I buy the Eagles claims that no one wanted Simon at his price, what about Trotter a few years before or more importantly, TO LAST YEAR?

 

TO started his nonsense well before training camp. He made it very clear that if the Eagles didn't plan on re-doing his contract, he wanted out of Philly. Are you telling me that NO ONE would have given you anything for TO in the off season last year? The Eagles were more concerned about proving a point with TO and basically flushed the season down the toliet as a result. In fact, the wounds to McNabb's psyche may NEVER heal (this is now a make or break season for McNabb).....All of this TO junk could have been avoided if the Eagles just traded him last off season instead of getting into a pissing contest with a bi-polar WR with a retard agent!

 

I think you missed my point about the Eagles front office being more concerned about the Salary Cap then winning a Super Bowl Championship!

[Portis26 0]

Going into 2006, I'd have to say that the Eagles are probably going to be the odds on favorite to finish in the cellar of the NFC East. With their disasterous 2005, plus their relatively inactive offseason, coupled by the big signings of the Cowboys and Redskins, I don't think too many people are looking at Philly as a playoff contender.

For a change, I like it that way.

 

 

 

 

P.S. - Don't forget about the Giants and a QB with another year under his belt

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

I also dont like when people try to sell Eagle fans that this offense doesnt need a great wide receiver because it was obvious that a top tier guy turned this offense from dink and dunk screen passes to a down the field at any time big play that could burn you from anywhere.....

Just to play devils advocate.....having a #1 WR still didn't get them anywhere.

[Guest stevejohnson]

Just to play devils advocate.....having a #1 WR still didn't get them anywhere.

 

Execpt to the SUPER BOWL! Not to mention he did everything possible on his end to win that Super Bowl game....McNabb's INTs turned out to be the difference, not TO's play.

 

And please save the arguement that TO didn't play in the playoffs because with out him domanating in the regular season, they most likely wouldn't have had home field that season.

 

TO is a scum bag as a person but to say he didn't help the team as a player is just foolish! And to say that a team that throws the ball 65% of the time doesn't need a WR better then T. Stinkson or G. Gaffney is even dumber! Brown looks like he could be a decent player but he is still at least another year away from taking his game to the "#1 WR" level. I'm still holding out hope that they have a plan to bring in a true #1 WR before the start of the season

[Portis26 0]

Execpt to the SUPER BOWL! Not to mention he did everything possible on his end to win that Super Bowl game....McNabb's INTs turned out to be the difference, not TO's play.

 

And please save the arguement that TO didn't play in the playoffs because with out him domanating in the regular season, they most likely wouldn't have had home field that season.

 

TO is a scum bag as a person but to say he didn't help the team as a player is just foolish! And to say that a team that throws the ball 65% of the time doesn't need a WR better then T. Stinkson or G. Gaffney is even dumber! Brown looks like he could be a decent player but he is still at least another year away from taking his game to the "#1 WR" level. I'm still holding out hope that they have a plan to bring in a true #1 WR before the start of the season

 

That was a BIG hurdle for the Eagles -- to even get in the SB ... as they (cough, cough) in the previous years Championship game(s)... With a 110% healthy Owens -Eagles would have won the 'big game' - IMO. (Thats just my take)

 

I don't think TO is a "scumbag" - he risked his 'CAREER' to play in the Super Bowl for the Eagles...all he wanted was for them to pay him, and re-do his contract so he'd get more $$$ -- which - IMO - he deserved.

 

The problem stemmed befroe he even came to Philly - (where he wanted to go) -- The Players Union didn't even want him to sign the orginal contract with the Eagles (after the Baltimore fiasco) - but he WANTED to go to Philly. So he actually did sign a 'less the maret value' offer to play in Philly.

 

so - I think Philly screwed him by NOT paying him after signing a lesser contract, and risking his career for the Franchise...

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

Execpt to the SUPER BOWL! Not to mention he did everything possible on his end to win that Super Bowl game....McNabb's INTs turned out to be the difference, not TO's play.

 

And please save the arguement that TO didn't play in the playoffs because with out him domanating in the regular season, they most likely wouldn't have had home field that season.

 

I didn't think you would want to use that reasoning, because it is after all, fact.

 

TO did not help this team get to the SB because he didn't even play in any of the playoff games!

 

And lest you forget, they lost to Carolina at HOME in 2003 and at HOME in 2002. In fact, you may remember the 2002 game. It was forecast below 40 degrees, and Tampa Bay had never won a game in temps below 40 degrees, much less a Conference Championship. And with the ravenous fans and home field advantage there was no way Tampa could win. So HOME field advantage apparently mattered not.

 

So let's recap:

a #1 WR didn't help them get to the SB.

Home field advantage didn't matter.

[Guest stevejohnson]

I didn't think you would want to use that reasoning, because it is after all, fact.

 

TO did not help this team get to the SB because he didn't even play in any of the playoff games!

 

And lest you forget, they lost to Carolina at HOME in 2003 and at HOME in 2002. In fact, you may remember the 2002 game. It was forecast below 40 degrees, and Tampa Bay had never won a game in temps below 40 degrees, much less a Conference Championship. And with the ravenous fans and home field advantage there was no way Tampa could win. So HOME field advantage apparently mattered not.

 

So let's recap:

a #1 WR didn't help them get to the SB.

Home field advantage didn't matter.

 

This is a clear example of an old saying: Never argue with a moron, they will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience......

 

I'm done with you. Good luck, maybe if you take a 3rd job, you could afford season tickets and I'll see you at a game.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

This is a clear example of an old saying: Never argue with a moron, they will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience......

 

I'm done with you. Good luck, maybe if you take a 3rd job, you could afford season tickets and I'll see you at a game.

That's fine, you can think I'm a moron, but they are facts. Even if you don't like them.