Unofficial Eagles Fans Thread

[Force of Two 0]

That's fine, you can think I'm a moron, but they are facts. Even if you don't like them.

 

DS...I think were on opposites end of the spectrum a bit here..though I really think your trying to parlay this into a good football conversation. I would make the argument that as of right now they dont have a player on either side of the ball that a team has to truly gameplan for other than maybe Westbrook. #5 needs the weapons on the outside to get his job done and I dont think that Gaffney is that guy (though Im not disgusted with the move)

 

As far as the elite WR didnt win them anything....I dont think they would have even been in the ballgame without Owens that day (Super Bowl), in fact some guys on the sidelines (per the Gargano book) thought Owens should have been in the game more and targeted more. My personal feeling also is that they would have gotten to the Super Bowl over every one of the teams that they lost to in the NFC title game if they had that WR that teams needed to fear and that includes the SL game in 01.

 

So to say that this offense doesnt need an upgrade at WR (and Im not saying that they need an Owens) is only going to take us back to the days of the dump off pass and our outside guys getting mugged by midgets like Ricky Manning.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

So to say that this offense doesnt need an upgrade at WR (and Im not saying that they need an Owens) is only going to take us back to the days of the dump off pass and our outside guys getting mugged by midgets like Ricky Manning.

Oh no, I'm not saying they don't need an upgrade. With Owens gone they surely did. I just don't think they need another #1 like many fans want. They had other issues far greater than WR to take care of. And like you, I'm not thrilled about the Gaffney pickup, but I think it was a good move and he'll do fine. I also liked what I saw in Brown last year.

 

Although Owens performance was amazing, he still didn't have much to do with them getting there. I believe that was the earlier point, that without a #1WR they have no chance to get back to the SB. As shown, that's just baloney. But I do agree that Owens was amazing in that game, and probably kept it closer than it should have been, given the mistakes McNabb and the team in general made.

[Force of Two 0]

Oh no, I'm not saying they don't need an upgrade. With Owens gone they surely did. I just don't think they need another #1 like many fans want. They had other issues far greater than WR to take care of. And like you, I'm not thrilled about the Gaffney pickup, but I think it was a good move and he'll do fine. I also liked what I saw in Brown last year.

 

Although Owens performance was amazing, he still didn't have much to do with them getting there. I believe that was the earlier point, that without a #1WR they have no chance to get back to the SB. As shown, that's just baloney. But I do agree that Owens was amazing in that game, and probably kept it closer than it should have been, given the mistakes McNabb and the team in general made.

 

I would agree with that premise for the most part...Im also worried that in the past #5 could bail us out but now that hes getting older I think that we need to surround him with bonafide talent and not guys who can just play within the system.

[Guest stevejohnson]

Here is the bottom line: If they bring in J. Walker (providing he is healthy), up grade at DT, RB, and LB through the draft and June 1 cuts, I will be the 1st one to say, sorry Andy, you had a plan after all but if they keep this team as is and draft a backup OL with the 1st pick, I think we could be looking at another sub .500 season because the division has finally caught up with the Eagles.

 

I am actually hoping fans like Homer are right but experience tells me they are not.....

[Force of Two 0]

Here is the bottom line: If they bring in J. Walker (providing he is healthy), up grade at DT, RB, and LB through the draft and June 1 cuts, I will be the 1st one to say, sorry Andy, you had a plan after all but if they keep this team as is and draft a backup OL with the 1st pick, I think we could be looking at another sub .500 season because the division has finally caught up with the Eagles.

 

I am actually hoping fans like Homer are right but experience tells me they are not.....

 

Actually I would say that our experience with Andy has been that everything usually does turn out fine. However this particular offseason bothers me because there doesnt appear to be any urgency.

 

Eagles fans complain every year during the offseason but this time I think it may have finally caught up with us.

 

I think that 1st Round Pick needs to come in and contribute right away and two other guys need to either step up from the draft or be a guy who steps up off the current roster...IE Herremans is a dominator, or McCoy can actually play, or McMullen suprises people....if something like that doesnt happen then I see too many holes with this team AS IS right now

[Crestwood 0]

Even if I buy the Eagles claims that no one wanted Simon at his price, what about Trotter a few years before or more importantly, TO LAST YEAR?

 

TO started his nonsense well before training camp. He made it very clear that if the Eagles didn't plan on re-doing his contract, he wanted out of Philly. Are you telling me that NO ONE would have given you anything for TO in the off season last year? The Eagles were more concerned about proving a point with TO and basically flushed the season down the toliet as a result. In fact, the wounds to McNabb's psyche may NEVER heal (this is now a make or break season for McNabb).....All of this TO junk could have been avoided if the Eagles just traded him last off season instead of getting into a pissing contest with a bi-polar WR with a retard agent!

 

I think you missed my point about the Eagles front office being more concerned about the Salary Cap then winning a Super Bowl Championship!

 

 

dude, wtf, did i ever mention trotter, or TO in my post? all i did was give you multiple facts why the eagles got no compensation for simon, nothing more nothing less.

 

please dont ever quote my response if you dont have any intention of talking about it.

[Guest stevejohnson]

dude, wtf, did i ever mention trotter, or TO in my post? all i did was give you multiple facts why the eagles got no compensation for simon, nothing more nothing less.

 

please dont ever quote my response if you dont have any intention of talking about it.

 

Settle down. I never said YOU addressed TO or Trotter. I just used them as further examples of the Eagles' management overall philosophy of low balling players and trying to prove a point instead of doing the "right" thing. The Simon and Trotter issues were almost exactly the same. Both were key parts of the defense, both wanted their deals redone but over valued themselves and both were just flat out cut instead of traded just so the Eagles could prove their point of refusing to EVER redo a contract for anyone other then D. McNabb!

 

All of these years of the Eagles low balling players, cutting loyal vets, and the whole TO suspension issue is finally starting to catch up with them. Free agents with more then one option are now choosing to go to other teams in some part due to the Eagles well earned reputation of being cheap and disloyal to their players. The only exception I can think of is Moulds publicly saying he wanted to play for the Eagles but even in that situation the Eagles made a low ball offer so he went to the Texans.

[Guest stevejohnson]

Had to bump this for the Eagles fans......

[SUXBNME 1,501]

If the Eagles would keep it real, they would do better..

 

 

HTH

[Guest stevejohnson]

If the Eagles would keep it real, they would do better..

HTH

 

You should "grow up" too

[Sho Nuff 720]

If the Eagles would keep it real, they would do better..

HTH

 

yo yo yo....word

[Guest stevejohnson]

yo yo yo....word

 

Way to show your racist attitude and tendencies towards stalking by following me into this thread with that kind of "yo, yo, yo" nonsense.

 

You have been exposed as a complete fraud and you attempts to engage me in an are in vain!

 

Now seriously, GROW UP!

[Sho Nuff 720]

Way to show your racist attitude and tendencies towards stalking by following me into this thread with that kind of "yo, yo, yo" nonsense.

 

You have been exposed as a complete fraud and you attempts to engage me in an are in vain!

 

Now seriously, GROW UP!

 

 

It is funny watching you dance....you look kind of funny with that hook hanging out of your mouth though.

And in typical you fashion...you bring back the racist bit again.

 

Nothing about me saying yo, yo, yo and word (to make fun of previous conversations) was racist in any way shape or form.

 

Stalking? Nah...just catching a fish and watching it dance.

 

But you see...when you thrown insults and accusations of me being a liar (and cannot even back that up)...you get what you deserve. A little joke and fishing trip.

 

And you bought into it.

 

Grow up? I am quite grown...you have proven you are still a child.

 

Complete fraud? Again...like the liar bit...how so?

[Guest stevejohnson]

It is funny watching you dance....you look kind of funny with that hook hanging out of your mouth though.

And in typical you fashion...you bring back the racist bit again.

 

Nothing about me saying yo, yo, yo and word (to make fun of previous conversations) was racist in any way shape or form.

 

Stalking? Nah...just catching a fish and watching it dance.

 

But you see...when you thrown insults and accusations of me being a liar (and cannot even back that up)...you get what you deserve. A little joke and fishing trip.

 

And you bought into it.

 

Grow up? I am quite grown...you have proven you are still a child.

 

Complete fraud? Again...like the liar bit...how so?

 

It's official, you are a stalker! I have found the best way to get rid of stalkers is to IGNORE them so.....

 

"yo, yo, yo, peace out homey"

[Portis26 0]

When do the Iggles draft the air aparant to McAfro?

 

He has 8 yrs under his belt and will be 30 this season...

 

His Sophmore season he had 31 TDs - hasn't had over 25 since

Has only played in 3 full seasons in 8 years

Has 4 catches for -2 yards in his career -----------------------------> I know useless stat - jst havin fun

He has 54 fumbles in his career (losing 35)

 

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133361

 

58% comp

just about 20,000 yds

134 TDs

66 INTs

QB rating of 84.1

 

NOT worthy of the HOF

[NewbieJr 541]

When do the Iggles draft the air aparant to McAfro?

 

 

 

NOT worthy of the HOF

I agree with you that he's is not HOF worthy. He hasn't accomplished enough yet. He needs about 3 more Pro Bowl seasons until I'd consider him HOF material.

 

Until Eli gets quite a bit more experience, however, he is head and shoulders above any other NFC East quarterback.

[birdbrain3X 0]

When do the Iggles draft the air aparant to McAfro?

 

When he starts throwing for 84 yards in a playoff game against a Bucs team that was out of the playoffs the year before.

 

 

I agree with you that he's is not HOF worthy. He hasn't accomplished enough yet. He needs about 3 more Pro Bowl seasons until I'd consider him HOF material.

 

Until Eli gets quite a bit more experience, however, he is head and shoulders above any other NFC East quarterback.

 

Agreed. IMO he will never be HOF material. Not even close. But in the NFC East he is so far ahead of the 2 oldmen and rook that any comparison is hysterical.

[Portis26 0]

Agreed. IMO he will never be HOF material. Not even close. But in the NFC East he is so far ahead of the 2 oldmen and rook that any comparison is hysterical.

 

I must have hit a nerve....

 

If McAfro gets 35,000 yards ( thats 15,000 more) and gets 25 TDs per year for 5 years -- he'd have over 250 TDs

 

then Yes he is HOF worthy...

 

maybe in 3 years - they start "considering" the next QB - but I think he has 5 good years left -- then he is 35

 

 

P.S. Skins were up 14-0 in the first 5 minutes - Brunell dind't have to throw the ball that game - a win is a win is a win - and Brunell has the same amount of SB wins as McAfro does

[birdbrain3X 0]

I must have hit a nerve....

 

If McAfro gets 35,000 yards ( thats 15,000 more) and gets 25 TDs per year for 5 years -- he'd have over 250 TDs

 

then Yes he is HOF worthy...

 

maybe in 3 years - they start "considering" the next QB - but I think he has 5 good years left -- then he is 35

P.S. Skins were up 14-0 in the first 5 minutes - Brunell dind't have to throw the ball that game - a win is a win is a win - and Brunell has the same amount of SB wins as McAfro does

 

McAfro has an NFC Conference Championship and a SB appearance(just 2 seasons ago... remember?)that Brunell will never have. If Mark ain't done it by now then trust me he ain't gonna. His declined skills are visibly evident. McAfro also has 4 of the last 5 NFC East Division crowns. You guys couldn't even win the division last year and we were 6-10 and gave you 2 games!

 

Brunell had his heydey in Jacksonville but he will be benched soon again and be posting with us on this forearm very soon.

 

Believe me, I am a McAfro critic but if you are going to compare him to garbage then I must protest.

 

And lastly... At least McNabb can grow his own great fro. Portis has to wear weekly wigs that make him look like Elton John on the juice. He's someguys sweetheart for sure.

[MadMoney5000 0]

If the Eagles would keep it real, they would do better..

HTH

 

When keeping it real goes bad.

[Portis26 0]

McAfro has an NFC Conference Championship and a SB appearance(just 2 seasons ago... remember?)that Brunell will never have. If Mark ain't done it by now then trust me he ain't gonna. His declined skills are visibly evident. McAfro also has 4 of the last 5 NFC East Division crowns. You guys couldn't even win the division last year and we were 6-10 and gave you 2 games!

 

Brunell had his heydey in Jacksonville but he will be benched soon again and be posting with us on this forearm very soon.

 

Believe me, I am a McAfro critic but if you are going to compare him to garbage then I must protest.

 

And lastly... At least McNabb can grow his own great fro. Portis has to wear weekly wigs that make him look like Elton John on the juice. He's someguys sweetheart for sure.

 

 

I'm not talking about Brunell nor would I EVER compare McSoup to him...I was STICKLY talkin bout McSoup and his chances at the HOF

[Force of Two 0]

When do the Iggles draft the air aparant to McAfro?

 

He has 8 yrs under his belt and will be 30 this season...

 

His Sophmore season he had 31 TDs - hasn't had over 25 since

Has only played in 3 full seasons in 8 years

Has 4 catches for -2 yards in his career -----------------------------> I know useless stat - jst havin fun

He has 54 fumbles in his career (losing 35)

 

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133361

 

58% comp

just about 20,000 yds

134 TDs

66 INTs

QB rating of 84.1

 

NOT worthy of the HOF

 

I also question when they should start the whole process over and I guess it will be in 2008-09..however dont post misleading numbers about the guy ...Last year was his 7th season and the only in 2002 and 2005 did he suffer injuries that didnt allow him to play.

 

1999 He was a rook and didnt play the whole season based on that.

2000 Started every game

2001 Started Every Game

2002 Injury

2003 Started Every Game

2004 Started Every game except the meaningless finale against the Bengals

2005 We all know what happened

 

Also he had more than 30 something TD in 2004. Naturally this will be a very telling year for McNabb

[Portis26 0]

McSoup's replacement will be Mark Sanchez of Southern Cal in 2009.

[football_scooter 0]

If the Eagles would keep it real, they would do better..

HTH

 

I think the problem is that their fans are "drinking the Cool Aide" [sic].

[Guest stevejohnson]

Bump for Eagles fans......

[TerrySilver 0]

steve johnson, read your last thread that got closed and had to say a few things.

 

A. hugh douglas is a ambassador for the eagles, hence, he could be in the locker room as much as he pleases. highly doubt mcnabb sent him out to be his protector (also if you remember douglas was one guy who tore into TO hard in the preseason for the stunts he was pulling, and they almost went at it in training camp). i really think that douglas acted alone on this.

 

B. about your statement that "half the team went to TO's b-day party", well no. only 11 players showed up. 2 of them jevon kearse and lito sheppard are drew rosenhaus clients (kinda forced to go) so outside of that, 9 players went. not exactly half here

[Guest stevejohnson]

steve johnson, read your last thread that got closed and had to say a few things.

 

A. hugh douglas is a ambassador for the eagles, hence, he could be in the locker room as much as he pleases. highly doubt mcnabb sent him out to be his protector (also if you remember douglas was one guy who tore into TO hard in the preseason for the stunts he was pulling, and they almost went at it in training camp). i really think that douglas acted alone on this.

 

B. about your statement that "half the team went to TO's b-day party", well no. only 11 players showed up. 2 of them jevon kearse and lito sheppard are drew rosenhaus clients (kinda forced to go) so outside of that, 9 players went. not exactly half here

 

I never said McNabb sent in Douglas....management did!

 

So you know for sure that Kearse and Sheppard were "forced" to go to TOs party? Any link for that? As for your count of how many players went to TOs party, last I checked their are only 22 starters on a team and 11, including the two of the leaders on defense, came to his party. If the team was 100% behind McNabb, NO ONE from the Eagles would have showed up!

 

Other then that you are right!

[Guest xmann]

If, and right now it is a big if, the Eagles manage to trade for J. Walker and he comes back at close to 100%, McNabb could be a top 3 fantasy QB again! The Eagles are a dark horse in the NFC this year, much like the Carolina Panthers were a year before after their post Super Bowl struggles.

 

I have no "proof" to back this up but I see the Eagles going 11-5 and winning the NFC EAST this year.

[TerrySilver 0]

I never said McNabb sent in Douglas....management did!

 

So you know for sure that Kearse and Sheppard were "forced" to go to TOs party? Any link for that? As for your count of how many players went to TOs party, last I checked their are only 22 starters on a team and 11, including the two of the leaders on defense, came to his party. If the team was 100% behind McNabb, NO ONE from the Eagles would have showed up!

 

Other then that you are right!

 

never said to know for sure that lito and jevon were force to go, but if you look at the other invites, you'll notice that alot of the other players invited (santana moss, clinton portis for example) are rosenhaus clients. it may just be coincidence, but at least i'm providing some sort of thought process behind my opinion

 

we'll since you're questioning me, here's a better question, how do you know the eagles brass told douglas to step in on TO? seems like i provided a few reasons why douglas did it on his own. he hated owens

 

 

and so you're saying that nfl teams only have 22 players per team now?

 

sorry to inform you of this but 11 players make up only 20% of a team. 20% last i checked isnt half a team

[Eriadoc 4]

Regarding Gaffney --

 

He's better than people think. In the limited opportunity he was given in Houston, he produced pretty well. In 2004, the year before the disaster, he posted better YPC than either AJ or Bradford, a lower drop percentage (he actually has damn fine hands), and was clutch on 3rd down. The problem was, he seldom got looked for. The coaching staff (Capers and Co.) had manlove for Bradford and AJ was the first read. DD was the safety valve.

 

Realistically, Gaffney will never be a #1 WR, so in that regard, the Eagles did nothing special by signing him. However, Gaffney's better than Randle El, whom McNabb wanted, evidently. It may turn out that a young Gaffney in a better situation turns out to be better than an aging Moulds, but we'll wait and see. At any rate, the Eagles can contend without a true #1 WR. The Chargers, for instance, have McCardell as their #1 WR. He's no better than a #2 WR, but they have Gates. The Eagles have LJ Smith and Westbrook. Reggie Brown showed some good things. So while the numbers may not go to any specific WR, they have a good complement of receiving options. It will be up to the coaching staff to best utilize that talent.

 

Anyway, just wanted to give the Eagles fans a small bit of hope regarding Gaffney. It's a solid signing and I would have liked to see him back in a Texans uni under some proper coaching.

[TerrySilver 0]

Regarding Gaffney --

 

He's better than people think. In the limited opportunity he was given in Houston, he produced pretty well. In 2004, the year before the disaster, he posted better YPC than either AJ or Bradford, a lower drop percentage (he actually has damn fine hands), and was clutch on 3rd down. The problem was, he seldom got looked for. The coaching staff (Capers and Co.) had manlove for Bradford and AJ was the first read. DD was the safety valve.

 

Realistically, Gaffney will never be a #1 WR, so in that regard, the Eagles did nothing special by signing him. However, Gaffney's better than Randle El, whom McNabb wanted, evidently. It may turn out that a young Gaffney in a better situation turns out to be better than an aging Moulds, but we'll wait and see. At any rate, the Eagles can contend without a true #1 WR. The Chargers, for instance, have McCardell as their #1 WR. He's no better than a #2 WR, but they have Gates. The Eagles have LJ Smith and Westbrook. Reggie Brown showed some good things. So while the numbers may not go to any specific WR, they have a good complement of receiving options. It will be up to the coaching staff to best utilize that talent.

 

Anyway, just wanted to give the Eagles fans a small bit of hope regarding Gaffney. It's a solid signing and I would have liked to see him back in a Texans uni under some proper coaching.

 

i feel the same way about gaffney. i think this dude will be ok, and will be better then randle-el will be in washington(he had 24 more catches then him last year).

 

this guy had 55 catches last year for the 30th worst passing offense in the league (add to the fact that Carr was on his back every other play). i think that alone is pretty impressive for that POS offense. i could see these numbers jump much higher in the eagles passing offense for gaffney.

 

i'm not saying that this guy will be a pro-bowler or anything, but i do believe he will be much more then just servicable for the eagles

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

Regarding Gaffney --

 

He's better than people think. In the limited opportunity he was given in Houston, he produced pretty well. In 2004, the year before the disaster, he posted better YPC than either AJ or Bradford, a lower drop percentage (he actually has damn fine hands), and was clutch on 3rd down. The problem was, he seldom got looked for. The coaching staff (Capers and Co.) had manlove for Bradford and AJ was the first read. DD was the safety valve.

 

Realistically, Gaffney will never be a #1 WR, so in that regard, the Eagles did nothing special by signing him. However, Gaffney's better than Randle El, whom McNabb wanted, evidently. It may turn out that a young Gaffney in a better situation turns out to be better than an aging Moulds, but we'll wait and see. At any rate, the Eagles can contend without a true #1 WR. The Chargers, for instance, have McCardell as their #1 WR. He's no better than a #2 WR, but they have Gates. The Eagles have LJ Smith and Westbrook. Reggie Brown showed some good things. So while the numbers may not go to any specific WR, they have a good complement of receiving options. It will be up to the coaching staff to best utilize that talent.

 

Anyway, just wanted to give the Eagles fans a small bit of hope regarding Gaffney. It's a solid signing and I would have liked to see him back in a Texans uni under some proper coaching.

Good post. And to their credit, some Eagle fans realize this. They also realize the Eagles contended with such All-Stars as Charles Johnson and James Thrash. This team doesn't need a #1WR, but God forbid if they don't sign every #1FA out there.

[Sho Nuff 720]

i feel the same way about gaffney. i think this dude will be ok, and will be better then randle-el will be in washington(he had 24 more catches then him last year).

 

this guy had 55 catches last year for the 30th worst passing offense in the league (add to the fact that Carr was on his back every other play). i think that alone is pretty impressive for that POS offense. i could see these numbers jump much higher in the eagles passing offense for gaffney.

 

i'm not saying that this guy will be a pro-bowler or anything, but i do believe he will be much more then just servicable for the eagles

You think this is the end of it, old man? I'm gonna open Cobra Kai dojos all over this Valley. Hell, I might even teach for free! From now on, all that anyone will know about is Cobra Kai karate. John Kreese's karate. You won't even be a memory!

[TerrySilver 0]

You think this is the end of it, old man? I'm gonna open Cobra Kai dojos all over this Valley. Hell, I might even teach for free! From now on, all that anyone will know about is Cobra Kai karate. John Kreese's karate. You won't even be a memory!

 

 

finally, someone got it

 

[Sho Nuff 720]

finally, someone got it

 

 

Careful...Im a stalker....

 

never said to know for sure that lito and jevon were force to go, but if you look at the other invites, you'll notice that alot of the other players invited (santana moss, clinton portis for example) are rosenhaus clients. it may just be coincidence, but at least i'm providing some sort of thought process behind my opinion

 

we'll since you're questioning me, here's a better question, how do you know the eagles brass told douglas to step in on TO? seems like i provided a few reasons why douglas did it on his own. he hated owens

and so you're saying that nfl teams only have 22 players per team now?

 

sorry to inform you of this but 11 players make up only 20% of a team. 20% last i checked isnt half a team

 

 

Don't waste your time.

 

We all have to learn that his is the only opinion that counts.

[football_scooter 0]

Careful...Im a stalker....

 

I can attest - I've witnessed someone calling him such. Next thing you know he'll be eating your dinner, banging your woman and making roster moves for your fantasy teams.

 

 

Don't waste your time.

 

We all have to learn that his is the only opinion that counts.

[Guest stevejohnson]

Thanks for continuing to make "stevejohnson" threads the most viewed and posted in

 

For someone you all claim to hate, "own" (whatever that means), etc... you sure spend a lot of time talking about me! Several of my fans (fans sounds much better then stalker) even include my name and post in their sig.

 

Thanks for another day of laughs at your expense (even though I'm sure there will be 10 more post explaining how you are all laughing at me, etc....after I'm gone). I didn't have time to share todays quality post with my co-workers today but we will all try to check in tomorrow to see what new, witty comebacks you have come up with.

 

To all my fans, I say peace!

[Guest xmann]

This is all sort of funny but there is a 4 to 1 ratio of garbage to every one decent football point! Over on the geek board a guy has a post about sh!ting himself? Is this what has become of FFToday?

[football_scooter 0]

Thanks for continuing to make "stevejohnson" threads the most mocked and laughed at!

 

For someone you all claim to hate, "own" (whatever that means), etc... you sure spend a lot of time making fun of me!

 

Fixed!

[Guest xmann]

Fixed!

 

Not for nothing, because I'm not trying to get involved in this mess, but didn't you just prove steve's point? Why not just ignore the troll?