DrJ 0 Posted May 3, 2006 The NFL said the Dolphins were within their rights to discuss contract terms with quarterback Joey Harrington once Detroit gave Harrington permission to seek a trade. That comes in response to complaints by Lions president Matt Millen that the Dolphins went outside the boundaries of the collective bargaining agreement in working out the parameters of a two-year deal. However, it appears Millen was mistaken. ''Yes, a player is allowed to talk about a contract with another team in that situation,'' league spokesman Greg Aiello said after asking the NFL Management Council for clarification. Millen's comments came Sunday after a possible trade of Harrington to Cleveland didn't materialize because Harrington refused to restructure his contract. On April 20, Harrington publicly said he was looking forward to playing for the Dolphins, an indication he has no intention of reworking his contract for another team. Harrington has a $4 million roster bonus due June 15 to go with his base salary. Millen, who was demanding a fourth-round pick from the Dolphins for Harrington, has become frustrated with that situation. The Dolphins are offering a sixth-round pick in 2007 for Harrington, and a team source said that was as far as the team would go; if necessary, the Dolphins would wait for Harrington to be cut to sign him. ''I think that's a [salary] cap violation,'' Millen said. ``You can't talk about a contract. . . . I'm giving them permission to talk to him and get to know the kid.'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uubeee 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Millen = biggest doofus in NFL. We need a special emoticon to protray Millen as a mindless monkey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShaneFalco 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Millen = biggest doofus in NFL. We need a special emoticon to protray Millen as a mindless monkey. How do we make this into an emoticon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MahSoonerz 0 Posted May 3, 2006 How do we make this into an emoticon? Fire Millen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Drew SHarp from the Freep lays it on Millen again ======================== The Lions blew it. It's officially the 1,435th time we've reached that diagnosis in the last 45 years, a reflexive response as consistent as a sunrise. Rod Marinelli concluded his first draft as the Lions' head coach Sunday hopeful that he attained the objectives on his shopping list -- improved physicality on both sides of the ball with a more aggressive mind-set. But it's unfortunate that the front office lacked the guts that they're demanding from their new acquisitions. The issue isn't that they used the ninth pick for someone with a history of head trauma that might make Eric Lindros weak in the knees, or that they didn't use it on a potentially game-changing quarterback who conveniently fell into their laps. The issue is that they didn't get maximum value out of that selection. Marinelli and Matt Millen committed draft day's worst sin. You never fall so deeply in love with one prospect that it blinds you from common sense. You have to react to a draft's shifting dynamics. And now, like it or not, Marinelli's tenure as Lions head coach will be largely defined by the fate of a spirited yet undersized linebacker with a history of five concussions. You hope Ernie Sims proves the doubters wrong, if for nothing else than you never wish a young man's career dreams are prematurely extinguished due to medical issues. But the concerns are legitimate in a sport that attracts violent collisions and a team notorious for instinctively taking the wrong road. There's more pressure on Sims than any other first-round draft choice during the Millen era, even more so than Joey Harrington. There must be immediate impact. He's already penciled in as the starting weak-side linebacker. But the Lions froze on this one. The opportunities were there to move down, gain an additional mid-level draft pick and quite possibly still get the player the Lions' initially targeted. But that required the Lions taking USC quarterback Matt Leinart at No. 9 to move him elsewhere. And the most receptive suitor just might have been Arizona at No. 10. Amid their euphoria over getting Leinart, the Cardinals suggested that they would have taken Sims at No. 10 if Leinart weren't available. Maybe they're blowing smoke. But if they had, wouldn't that have created the opportunity for the Lions to deal down and get their guy while also adding some much-needed positional depth with an extra draft pick? If this were a poker game, Millen was playing at the penny table. He didn't dismiss the possibilities of taking a quarterback ninth overall at the pre-draft media briefing. It was classic disinformation straight out of the Iraqi foreign ministry handbook. It was intended to send a message to prospective suitors that if they wanted Leinart badly enough to move up to No. 9, they had better bring it -- sorry, Wings' fans, that just slipped out -- with the trade offers. But nobody bought it. The phones rang off the hook with the Lions on the clock, but there were no takers. Why give in to the Lions' requests if you don't think they have the guts to take Leinart at No. 9? Why give them anything? Just let them hang themselves from their own rope. That's apparently Miami's strategy in Harrington's long good-bye out of Detroit. Unable to sell the Dolphins on sweetening their trade offer (a 2007 sixth-round draft choice) for their former designated savior, the Lions threatened to move Harrington to Cleveland this weekend for a possible fifth-rounder this year. But the Browns understandably balked after Harrington's reticence about going to Cleveland. And now, there's a possibility that the Dolphins will remove the offer from the table and wait for the Lions to release Harrington in June just before he's due a $4-million roster bonus. So the Lions will probably get nothing for Harrington. It figures. But that's usually the safest approach with the Lions. Just wait them out and they'll inevitably back down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yojimbo81 0 Posted May 3, 2006 I seriously think Millen is paid to do nothing. They should have taken Leinert at 9. It was a value pick at that point. Kitna won't last forever and McCown is not the future. Millen needs balls. I bet he was too scared to draft a QB. The Fords are nuts. Millen needs to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riddlen 1 Posted May 3, 2006 drew sharp is a reactionist idiot most of the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted May 3, 2006 I seriously think Millen is paid to do nothing. They should have taken Leinert at 9. It was a value pick at that point. Kitna won't last forever and McCown is not the future. Millen needs balls. I bet he was too scared to draft a QB. The Fords are nuts. Millen needs to go. So we take a weak armed QB to fit an offense that wants to continously throw the ball deep to wideouts which in turn would force us to cut one of the FA Qb's we signed which translates into a cap hit for this year. Not to mention the distension it would cause in the lockerroom all over again. Yeah, that sounds great. "Value pick". Wasn't Mike Williams falling to #10 a value pick? I'm not a Millen fan or an apologist. Clearly he's in over his head, but passing on a QB was the right thing to do. You don't need a pro bowl QB to win in this league and the 1st rd. obviously doesn't guarantee anything. That has been proven over and over again. You do need a very good defense and it was the way to go with this pick. It's always going to be damned if you, damned if you don't around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdubz 0 Posted May 3, 2006 So we take a weak armed QB to fit an offense that wants to continously throw the ball deep to wideouts which in turn would force us to cut one of the FA Qb's we signed which translates into a cap hit for this year. Not to mention the distension it would cause in the lockerroom all over again. Yeah, that sounds great. "Value pick". Wasn't Mike Williams falling to #10 a value pick? I'm not a Millen fan or an apologist. Clearly he's in over his head, but passing on a QB was the right thing to do. You don't need a pro bowl QB to win in this league and the 1st rd. obviously doesn't guarantee anything. That has been proven over and over again. You do need a very good defense and it was the way to go with this pick. It's always going to be damned if you, damned if you don't around here. i don't know where all this "weak arm" stuff comes from. people are too in love with combines and pro days. fact is leinart made all the throws needed in a pro style offense in 3 years. he was very successful throwing down the field to wrs, byrd and bush in game situations. i'm one that believes you draft on production more than potential. with all that being said, i agree with the bottom of your post. the lions' defensive needs far outweigh their offensive needs at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 Posted May 3, 2006 I think it's funny that Harrington holds all the cards in them trading him. That's got to piss the Lions off to no end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinerate 0 Posted May 3, 2006 I don't blame Millen for this one. The Miami Dolphins are clearly wrong in this situation. Sure, they may not have broken the rules in doing what they did, but it certainly wasn't good business. That is not how a businessman should operate with another businessman. If all business people did this, then our economy would tank because nobody would trust anybody else. If Saban or whoever else did this wants to operate in this manner, then I hope his or her tenure is short and filled with disappointment. This was underhanded and shows a lack of class. If I were the Lions, I wouldn't even consider a sixth round guy. Instead, I would cut Joey June 14 and let Miami try to get him ready by the season opener. Then I will be rooting for whoever plays against Miami, cause I think they lack class. Don't blame Millen for being a man of principle. Maybe Miami should hire him to teach a course on business ethics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassBoiler 0 Posted May 3, 2006 The whole "weak arm" excuse is BS. Just because he didn't register the throwing velocity at his pro day that Cutler did at his doesn't mean he's a surefire bust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted May 3, 2006 I don't blame Millen for this one. The Miami Dolphins are clearly wrong in this situation. Sure, they may not have broken the rules in doing what they did, but it certainly wasn't good business. That is not how a businessman should operate with another businessman. If all business people did this, then our economy would tank because nobody would trust anybody else. If Saban or whoever else did this wants to operate in this manner, then I hope his or her tenure is short and filled with disappointment. This was underhanded and shows a lack of class. If I were the Lions, I wouldn't even consider a sixth round guy. Instead, I would cut Joey June 14 and let Miami try to get him ready by the season opener. Then I will be rooting for whoever plays against Miami, cause I think they lack class. Don't blame Millen for being a man of principle. Maybe Miami should hire him to teach a course on business ethics. Seems pretty standard in the NFL. You aren't going to be able to make an offer unless you know what the guy wants in terms of a contract. Teams always work out a contract before a deal is done - you aren't going to give up a 4th and be like "oh, I guess his contract demands aren't all that realistic. Want him back?". The fact that Millen doesn't understand this is hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace08 11 Posted May 3, 2006 I don't blame Millen for this one. The Miami Dolphins are clearly wrong in this situation. Sure, they may not have broken the rules in doing what they did, but it certainly wasn't good business. That is not how a businessman should operate with another businessman. If all business people did this, then our economy would tank because nobody would trust anybody else. If Saban or whoever else did this wants to operate in this manner, then I hope his or her tenure is short and filled with disappointment. This was underhanded and shows a lack of class. If I were the Lions, I wouldn't even consider a sixth round guy. Instead, I would cut Joey June 14 and let Miami try to get him ready by the season opener. Then I will be rooting for whoever plays against Miami, cause I think they lack class. Don't blame Millen for being a man of principle. Maybe Miami should hire him to teach a course on business ethics. You're kidding right? How is it bad business ethics if the rules are CRYSTAL clear as to what you can, and cannot do. Don't blame Nick Saban for Matt Millen being an idiot. If anything...it shows the difference between an intelligent football mind and a bumbling fool who should stick to broadcasting. Knowing the rules and parameters of what entails "allowing your player to speak to another club" should have been well addressed by Millen and his staff BEFORE they allowed him to speak to Miami. And at the end of the day....the Lions were going to be stuck cutting Harrington regardless due to his bonus...no team would have given more than a 6th round pick for him at that point. If you believe that Millen-manufactured Cleveland bs then i have some waterfront property in Antarctice I'd love to offer you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinerate 0 Posted May 3, 2006 You're kidding right? How is it bad business ethics if the rules are CRYSTAL clear as to what you can, and cannot do. Don't blame Nick Saban for Matt Millen being an idiot. If anything...it shows the difference between an intelligent football mind and a bumbling fool who should stick to broadcasting. Knowing the rules and parameters of what entails "allowing your player to speak to another club" should have been well addressed by Millen and his staff BEFORE they allowed him to speak to Miami. And at the end of the day....the Lions were going to be stuck cutting Harrington regardless due to his bonus...no team would have given more than a 6th round pick for him at that point. If you believe that Millen-manufactured Cleveland bs then i have some waterfront property in Antarctice I'd love to offer you. Obviously, the rules aren't crystal clear. Also, it doesn't take away from the fact that it was underhanded. Miami signs him, he falls in love with Miami, won't go to Denver or anybody else to potentially gain more value for the Lions. Miami knew this and signed him because they knew they would hold the upper hand. Unfortunately, that is how the NFL operates now. Look at Minnesota and Seattle with their free agent signings. Both do the same underhanded thing to each other. It may not be breaking the rules, but it is poor business ethics. Wrong is Wrong.... Period. Also, by the way, where is Antarctice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace08 11 Posted May 3, 2006 Obviously, the rules aren't crystal clear. Also, it doesn't take away from the fact that it was underhanded. Miami signs him, he falls in love with Miami, won't go to Denver or anybody else to potentially gain more value for the Lions. Miami knew this and signed him because they knew they would hold the upper hand. Unfortunately, that is how the NFL operates now. Look at Minnesota and Seattle with their free agent signings. Both do the same underhanded thing to each other. It may not be breaking the rules, but it is poor business ethics. Wrong is Wrong.... Period. Also, by the way, where is Antarctice? How cute...playing the spelling/grammar game. It's called a typo. You're reasoning still makes no sense. If Millen allowed him to talk to Miami, what was he expecting? Apparently the rules were CLEAR to everyone BUT Millen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted May 3, 2006 Harrington has all the cards here. He can go to Miami and have a good situation where he may start until Cpep gets back or he can rot in Cleveland. Why would he allow the team that is tossing him to the curb to get what they want? Millen misplayed this from day 1 and should be lucky to get the 6th rounder. Miami could just wait and let Det cut him before the bonus is due. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Harrington has all the cards here. He can go to Miami and have a good situation where he may start until Cpep gets back or he can rot in Cleveland. Why would he allow the team that is tossing him to the curb to get what they want? Millen misplayed this from day 1 and should be lucky to get the 6th rounder. Miami could just wait and let Det cut him before the bonus is due. Miami and Harrington probably have a side deal anyways. You want us, we want you. We'll give up a 6th to get you in here early and learn the offense or if the Lions balk, we'll just wait and sign you for no compensation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinerate 0 Posted May 3, 2006 How cute...playing the spelling/grammar game. It's called a typo. You're reasoning still makes no sense. If Millen allowed him to talk to Miami, what was he expecting? Apparently the rules were CLEAR to everyone BUT Millen. I would guess that Millen was expecting Miami to act with class. A discussion about potential contract terms, possibly a physical if they wanted one, and shoot the breeze. Then call Detroit and ask the price and try to agree on compensation. That would have been the right thing to do. Unfortunately, Miami is not right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted May 3, 2006 I would guess that Millen was expecting Miami to act with class. A discussion about potential contract terms, possibly a physical if they wanted one, and shoot the breeze. Then call Detroit and ask the price and try to agree on compensation. That would have been the right thing to do. Unfortunately, Miami is not right. Dude - wake up. Millen screwed the pooch here. There was an agreement on terms of the deal a few weeks ago and now, after the fact Millen is trying to get a better deal. Why would Joey help him out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinerate 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Miami and Harrington probably have a side deal anyways. You want us, we want you. We'll give up a 6th to get you in here early and learn the offense or if the Lions balk, we'll just wait and sign you for no compensation. That sounds about right. That is probably what they were thinking. Harrington has all the cards here. He can go to Miami and have a good situation where he may start until Cpep gets back or he can rot in Cleveland. Why would he allow the team that is tossing him to the curb to get what they want? Millen misplayed this from day 1 and should be lucky to get the 6th rounder. Miami could just wait and let Det cut him before the bonus is due. Maybe Harrington would give the Lions a chance to gain more cause they paid him millions to win very little. Please, somebody, pay me millions to lose football games and then I will try to get you the best trade I can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted May 3, 2006 i don't know where all this "weak arm" stuff comes from. people are too in love with combines and pro days. fact is leinart made all the throws needed in a pro style offense in 3 years. he was very successful throwing down the field to wrs, byrd and bush in game situations. i'm one that believes you draft on production more than potential. with all that being said, i agree with the bottom of your post. the lions' defensive needs far outweigh their offensive needs at this point. NFL.com: WEAKNESSES Leinart is a limited athlete who lacks the foot quickness and playing speed to make big plays with his feet. While he moves around in the pocket well, he is not a guy who is going to buy a lot of second chances. He needs to become more consistent throwing deep passes with zip because he has such great receivers at USC that he gets into a bad habit of throwing touch passes too often. The biggest thing that Leinart will have to overcome is that he has never lost regularly and in his first few years in the NFL, he is going to lose a lot and how he handles this will determine if he makes it in the NFL. NFLfans.com: Cons: Although statistically accuracy above average, many of his passes tend to be thrown high, forcing his talented receivers to jump for the ball leaving them vulnerable. His arm strength is adequate but nothing special. He lacks great mobility, even though his straight line speed is average (4.8-4.9), he is not a very natural or fluid runner and lacks escapability in the pocket. Benefitted from being on the best team in the country every year playing behind a dominating OL and very talented receivers, complemented by amazing RB talent. Football.about.com: Negatives: Leinart's foot work isn't as good as it could be, but it obviously hasn't hurt him. However, if he works this out he will be an even better QB. The other area of concern for Leinart is his arm strength. While he has the arm to throw the ball deep, he doesn't, as of right now, have the arm to efficiently throw the deep out in the NFL. It's not speculation. I've watched him play plenty of times and any scouting report will tell you the same thing. This is all besides the point anyways. Josh McCown has way more of a cannon to get the ball out there with zip on the deep posts and outs required in a Martz offense. I think it's a perfect fit and he could easily end up the #1 in Detroit. You can rip the Sims pick because of his shortcomings but going defense was the only way to go for Detroit and to suggest otherwise is a short cut to thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eck 0 Posted May 3, 2006 I'm surprised nobody has posted the news that Millen was so juiced about picking Sims that when they met face to face after the draft, Millen celebrated with the young prospect by embracing him in a big bear hug and then giving him a strong headbutt... them Sims fell to the ground and was forced to retire due to too many concussions. MILLEN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted May 3, 2006 That sounds about right. That is probably what they were thinking.Maybe Harrington would give the Lions a chance to gain more cause they paid him millions to win very little. Please, somebody, pay me millions to lose football games and then I will try to get you the best trade I can. Isnt that a little naive? The Lions lost for many reasons - its not all on Joey. Now that its a new year, they (and you) want to throw him under a bus and blame it all on him, Mooch and whoever else is gone. They sign 3 qbs and kick him to the curb. he manages to find a place where he is wanted and needed and he will get a great opportunity to actually play. He could go there OR he could thank Detroit for the kick in the ass by restructuring a deal and allowing Det to get a better return. As an added bonus, he gets to sit in Cleveland behind Charlie Frye and whoever else and get splinters on the bench. Awesome! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted May 3, 2006 I'm surprised nobody has posted the news that Millen was so juiced about picking Sims that when they met face to face after the draft, Millen celebrated with the young prospect by embracing him in a big bear hug and then giving him a strong headbutt... them Sims fell to the ground and was forced to retire due to too many concussions. MILLEN I see the Sims concussion joke has surplanted the WR in the 1st rd. for hilarity. Also not really. There was a safety coming out of college recently that had the same concerns. He turned out to be pretty okay in my book. http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/sports/ste...e/s_132010.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdubz 0 Posted May 3, 2006 It's not speculation. I've watched him play plenty of times and any scouting report will tell you the same thing. This is all besides the point anyways. Josh McCown has way more of a cannon to get the ball out there with zip on the deep posts and outs required in a Martz offense. I think it's a perfect fit and he could easily end up the #1 in Detroit. You can rip the Sims pick because of his shortcomings but going defense was the only way to go for Detroit and to suggest otherwise is a short cut to thinking. first of all, i agreed they should have taken defense in my earlier so i wasn't "ripping" their pick. but anyway, fact is leinart made the throws in college. they say his arm strength is adequate, fine. they said the same thing about tom brady and i'd say he's been pretty good. i'm not comparing him to tom brady, but i still think he will be very successful in the NFL (you obviously don't so i guess we disagree there). as for mccown, the days of the gun slinging qb are over. the brett favre style doesn't work anymore. that's what mccown is...a high risk, high reward guy who makes questionable decisions. fact is, turnovers are the single most important stat in the league these days. look at the successful qbs in the past couple years...brady, hass, ben, plummer (last year when he cut his TOs down dramatically), palmer. all intelligent, low TO guys. last year 80% of the games were won by the team with fewer TOs.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted May 3, 2006 first of all, i agreed they should have taken defense in my earlier so i wasn't "ripping" their pick. but anyway, fact is leinart made the throws in college. they say his arm strength is adequate, fine. they said the same thing about tom brady and i'd say he's been pretty good. i'm not comparing him to tom brady, but i still think he will be very successful in the NFL (you obviously don't so i guess we disagree there). as for mccown, the days of the gun slinging qb are over. the brett favre style doesn't work anymore. that's what mccown is...a high risk, high reward guy who makes questionable decisions. fact is, turnovers are the single most important stat in the league these days. look at the successful qbs in the past couple years...brady, hass, ben, plummer (last year when he cut his TOs down dramatically), palmer. all intelligent, low TO guys. last year 80% of the games were won by the team with fewer TOs.... I didn't mean to infer that you personally were ripping the pick. I'm saying in general speak. Actually I do think Leinart may be an effective NFL qb but he's not a can't miss prospect like a P. Manning as some have compared his 'readiness' to. I just don't think he'd be effective in a Martz run offense. He may be more suited for a WCO because of the need for the shorter accurate passes that rely on YAC. Of course it pays to not turn the ball over. That's not a new developement. What stopped Brett Favre and Warner was the fact that they were past their primes and of course injury for Warner. It wasn't some new defensive scheme. Last time I checked, those two both won Super Bowls. The offensive trend is to be more conservative, but there's nothing to suggest that a higher risk offense still couldn't win in the modern day NFL as long as you had a good/great defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Anonymous 24 Posted May 3, 2006 This might be the most glaring display of stupidity that I have ever seen by a general manager in any sport. I think my 98 year old grandma who has been in a coma for 15 years knows that when you get permission to talk to a player from another team that one of the primary reasons is to talk contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted May 3, 2006 ''I think that's a [salary] cap violation,'' Millen said. ``You can't talk about a contract. . . . I'm giving them permission to talk to him and get to know the kid.'' I'm having a hard time NOT laughing at this quote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klineman 0 Posted May 3, 2006 I'm having a hard time NOT laughing at this quote. I am dumbfounded. HOW can Millen not know something as basic as this? He's been on the job for five freakin' years.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted May 3, 2006 I am dumbfounded. HOW can Millen not know something as basic as this? He's been on the job for five freakin' years.... What makes me laugh is that he calls it a "cap violation". WTF does this have to do with the salary cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerrySilver 0 Posted May 4, 2006 ''I think that's a [salary] cap violation,'' Millen said. ``You can't talk about a contract. . . . I'm giving them permission to talk to him and get to know the kid.'' - i now truely believe that millen says dumb comments like these soley to see how far he can push a typical detroit lion fan into total manical rage. he's getting real close Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinerate 0 Posted May 4, 2006 Isnt that a little naive? The Lions lost for many reasons - its not all on Joey. Now that its a new year, they (and you) want to throw him under a bus and blame it all on him, Mooch and whoever else is gone. They sign 3 qbs and kick him to the curb. he manages to find a place where he is wanted and needed and he will get a great opportunity to actually play. He could go there OR he could thank Detroit for the kick in the ass by restructuring a deal and allowing Det to get a better return. As an added bonus, he gets to sit in Cleveland behind Charlie Frye and whoever else and get splinters on the bench. Awesome! I don't blame Joey for all the losses. Although his win/loss record speaks for itself. I am just saying that if some organization payed me millions and my team lost, whether I thought it was cause of me or not, I would try to leave on the best possible terms. Signing a deal with Miami and refusing to go anywhere else did not help the Lions. I think Joey will be a capable backup QB in the league. I also think that if Culpepper is hurt for an extended period of time and Joey has to play, they would have been better off with Frerotte. IMO My original post had nothing to do with Joey, though. The post was about Miami and their lack of business ethics. Whether they broke the rules or not is a mute point. They didn't do the right thing. It's kind of like if you find someone's wallet on the street. You could return it or take the cash. I am not sure if it is against the law or not, since I am not a lawyer, but taking the cash would be the most beneficial thing to do(At least in the short run), but it does not make it the right thing to do. Miami did not do the right thing by signing Joey. That is why my original post emphasized Miami and not Joey, although if I was Joey I would not have signed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted May 4, 2006 I don't blame Joey for all the losses. Although his win/loss record speaks for itself. I am just saying that if some organization payed me millions and my team lost, whether I thought it was cause of me or not, I would try to leave on the best possible terms. Signing a deal with Miami and refusing to go anywhere else did not help the Lions. I think Joey will be a capable backup QB in the league. I also think that if Culpepper is hurt for an extended period of time and Joey has to play, they would have been better off with Frerotte. IMO My original post had nothing to do with Joey, though. The post was about Miami and their lack of business ethics. Whether they broke the rules or not is a mute point. They didn't do the right thing. It's kind of like if you find someone's wallet on the street. You could return it or take the cash. I am not sure if it is against the law or not, since I am not a lawyer, but taking the cash would be the most beneficial thing to do(At least in the short run), but it does not make it the right thing to do. Miami did not do the right thing by signing Joey. That is why my original post emphasized Miami and not Joey, although if I was Joey I would not have signed. Miami's responsibility is to their team and fans, not to be a "nice guy" to another competitor. Det treated Joey like shiat. They deserve nothing and made their own bed. And, in business, you go for the jugular. Its not personal and it has nothing to do with class. A player gets a career ending injury. The nice thing to do would be to pay him forever. instead teams cut his ass. Its just the way it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinerate 0 Posted May 4, 2006 Miami's responsibility is to their team and fans, not to be a "nice guy" to another competitor. Det treated Joey like shiat. They deserve nothing and made their own bed. And, in business, you go for the jugular. Its not personal and it has nothing to do with class. A player gets a career ending injury. The nice thing to do would be to pay him forever. instead teams cut his ass. Its just the way it is. IMO, Detroit treated Joey well. In business, if you treat those you deal with terribly, you most likely will never get off the ground. As far as players getting cut, t is hard for me to feel bad for any player who makes more than most people will in a lifetime in a few years when they get cut. If it were me, I would take my millions and move on with a smile on my face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites