listen2me 23 1,873 Posted May 9, 2006 lol...yeah, roy is pathetic. i wish the lions would trade him for your mac conference guy jennings. Roy (1st round) Rogers (1st round) Williams (1st round).......high 1st rounders..... last year---2.4 rec. per game, 34.2 ypg, 0.28 TDs per game between the 3 (1st rounders) Driver (7th round) Chatman (not drafted) Ferg (2nd round) last year---3.8 rec. per game, 50 ypg, 0.28 TDs per game between the 3 In conclusion.....I dont think it is way off base to say our 3 WRs we drafted in the mid rounds this year do not have a good chance of being better than your 3 awsome 1st rounders......ROY is decent....im talking about as a whole tho which you seem to have a hard time getting through your retarded head.... a 7th rounder and a non drafted average kick returner who had to play as a result of default....out performed almost all 3 of those awsome 1st rounders.....pretty sad if you ask me if I was a Lions fan knowing that would make me want to shoot myself.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted May 9, 2006 Roy (1st round) Rogers (1st round) Williams (1st round).......high 1st rounders..... last year---2.4 rec. per game, 34.2 ypg, 0.28 TDs per game between the 3 (1st rounders) Driver (7th round) Chatman (not drafted) Ferg (2nd round) last year---3.8 rec. per game, 50 ypg, 0.28 TDs per game between the 3 In conclusion.....I dont think it is way off base to say our 3 WRs we drafted in the mid rounds this year do not have a good chance of being better than your 3 awsome 1st rounders......ROY is decent....im talking about as a whole tho which you seem to have a hard time getting through your retarded head.... a 7th rounder and a non drafted average kick returner who had to play as a result of default....out performed almost all 3 of those awsome 1st rounders.....pretty sad if you ask me if I was a Lions fan knowing that would make me want to shoot myself.... none of that seemed to help the packers finish ahead of the lions now, did it? maybe that's because the packers round 1 draft picks recently (rodgers and carroll) haven't done a whole lot themselves. but you go jump on the rookie jennings jock this year. make sure you get him on all your ff teams. report back to me how that goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted May 9, 2006 none of that seemed to help the packers finish ahead of the lions now, did it? maybe that's because the packers round 1 draft picks recently (rodgers and carroll) haven't done a whole lot themselves. but you go jump on the rookie jennings jock this year. make sure you get him on all your ff teams. report back to me how that goes. As usual....when owned and a clear true statment is made to downgrade the Lions or their WRs....you resort to going off topic and bring up something that makes no sense and that I nor anyone else is arguing....when you do this it only makes you look like more of an idiot....although you are prolly like 30 you have the arguing skills of a 12 year old.....you go way off topic to hide yourself and your sad Lions... I never said Jennings will be a god...or a good ffball player....you don't need to be when you are being compared to the 1st round bust WRs the Lions have drafted.....all you have to be is average to be considered more productive than those clowns... Caroll does suck and Rogers hasnt played yet..... the record of the teams has nothing to do with our bash on each others WRs...but O wait when it comes to the Lions, WRs do make the whole team and are the focus point...\ you go way off task on every post in order to try and hide the fact that you are owned by any man on here that argues football with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted May 9, 2006 Lions sign hakim -> "Great signing. He rocks!" Lions release Hakim -> "Great Move! He sucks. Awful hands. Good riddance!" Lions sign hakim again -> "Great signing! Martz will make it work!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted May 9, 2006 Lions sign hakim -> "Great signing. He rocks!" Lions release Hakim -> "Great Move! He sucks. Awful hands. Good riddance!" Lions sign hakim again -> "Great signing! Martz will make it work!" never said he rocks. simply said if martz wants him, martz should get him. i don't know as much about nfl offenses as does martz. neither do you. the end. As usual....when owned and a clear true statment is made to downgrade the Lions or their WRs....you resort to going off topic and bring up something that makes no sense and that I nor anyone else is arguing....when you do this it only makes you look like more of an idiot....although you are prolly like 30 you have the arguing skills of a 12 year old.....you go way off topic to hide yourself and your sad Lions... I never said Jennings will be a god...or a good ffball player....you don't need to be when you are being compared to the 1st round bust WRs the Lions have drafted.....all you have to be is average to be considered more productive than those clowns... Caroll does suck and Rogers hasnt played yet..... the record of the teams has nothing to do with our bash on each others WRs...but O wait when it comes to the Lions, WRs do make the whole team and are the focus point...\ you go way off task on every post in order to try and hide the fact that you are owned by any man on here that argues football with you. no, i would not take the packers wrs over the lions wrs. i guess that's the point you've been trying to make. you would, i wouldn't. not even if bribed. cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uubeee 0 Posted May 9, 2006 "the lions are the lions and they'll always suck." Hard to argue with that kind of logic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 9, 2006 They are stockpiling wr so they can trade for an average rb during the fantasy football season for a 2 for 1. Jeez can't you see it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ratbastard1 0 Posted May 9, 2006 They are stockpiling wr so they can trade for an average rb during the fantasy football season for a 2 for 1. Jeez can't you see it? hahhah.... I just cant believe the Harrington-Miami fiasco. I wont ivest in Detroit players until Millen is gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 40 Posted May 9, 2006 Swamp, the point everyone understands here but has not said and you don't seem to get is this: Hakim was young and healthy in StL. The O had been in place for a number of years. He had future HOF's outside of him on BOTH sides. He had Pro Bowl caliber QB's (at least in that system). A very good O line to protect the QB. Now, he is older, coming off injuries, unproven or bust WR's on either side of him (he is a slot guy). He has faltered (that's a nice way of saying that) since he left STL. He was out of football last year. Why would anyone but Millen even consider him? No one of the 31 other GM's wants him. You are rational when discussing anything outside of the NFLN. Why the irrationality inside? Bury the hate and realize that Millen can not run an NFL franchise as well as you or I could. And, that is a sad statement. I really wish it were otherwise. To defend this latest Millen fantasy is not defendable. He should have learned already. Next step. Bring back Bill Schroeder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted May 9, 2006 Swamp, the point everyone understands here but has not said and you don't seem to get is this: Hakim was young and healthy in StL. The O had been in place for a number of years. He had future HOF's outside of him on BOTH sides. He had Pro Bowl caliber QB's (at least in that system). A very good O line to protect the QB. Now, he is older, coming off injuries, unproven or bust WR's on either side of him (he is a slot guy). He has faltered (that's a nice way of saying that) since he left STL. He was out of football last year. Why would anyone but Millen even consider him? No one of the 31 other GM's wants him. You are rational when discussing anything outside of the NFLN. Why the irrationality inside? Bury the hate and realize that Millen can not run an NFL franchise as well as you or I could. And, that is a sad statement. I really wish it were otherwise. To defend this latest Millen fantasy is not defendable. He should have learned already. Next step. Bring back Bill Schroeder? Hard to argue this - Det is a football joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted May 9, 2006 Swamp, the point everyone understands here but has not said and you don't seem to get is this: Hakim was young and healthy in StL. The O had been in place for a number of years. He had future HOF's outside of him on BOTH sides. He had Pro Bowl caliber QB's (at least in that system). A very good O line to protect the QB. Now, he is older, coming off injuries, unproven or bust WR's on either side of him (he is a slot guy). He has faltered (that's a nice way of saying that) since he left STL. He was out of football last year. Why would anyone but Millen even consider him? No one of the 31 other GM's wants him. You are rational when discussing anything outside of the NFLN. Why the irrationality inside? Bury the hate and realize that Millen can not run an NFL franchise as well as you or I could. And, that is a sad statement. I really wish it were otherwise. To defend this latest Millen fantasy is not defendable. He should have learned already. Next step. Bring back Bill Schroeder? 1) i'm not defending millen--nor does that have anything to do with this thread 2) i've predicted another rough year for detroit--most likely 3rd at best 3) i'm not defending hakim in this thread if you bother to read at all. i simply said if martz worked him out and martz wants him, martz should get him. and maybe it turns out to be a crappy signing, maybe an okay signing, who knows? but if martz wants him (and i have no idea if he does or not) martz should get him. that's it. period. end of discussion. those are the points that no one in this thread gets, or wants to get, because it's just too fun for you to think i'm some sort of irrational millen lover who thinks the lions are going to the super bowl. i guess it's whatever mindset allows you to have fun here. cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted May 9, 2006 -- Millen Denies Rogers Interest -- Tue May 9, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com Mlive.com reports contrary to a published report that said the Detroit Lions had several calls on draft day concerning a possible trade for WR Charles Rogers, team president Matt Millen said: "I didn't get one single phone call on Charles Rogers." Marinelli must have been the one fielding all the calls on Rodgers during the draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted May 9, 2006 -- Millen Denies Rogers Interest --Tue May 9, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com Mlive.com reports contrary to a published report that said the Detroit Lions had several calls on draft day concerning a possible trade for WR Charles Rogers, team president Matt Millen said: "I didn't get one single phone call on Charles Rogers." Marinelli must have been the one fielding all the calls on Rodgers during the draft. certainly his trade value wouldn't be good, plus he's only making $700k this year...never made sense to get rid of him now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassBoiler 0 Posted May 9, 2006 certainly his trade value wouldn't be good, plus he's only making $700k this year...never made sense to get rid of him now. $700K more than he's worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatorbait7391 0 Posted May 9, 2006 that's no bargain--even if you are swinging from his nutz the guy had one good year and cashed in. good for him. too bad it was the bears being the patsy but that's life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bad_Mo_focher 1 Posted May 9, 2006 i don't know as much about nfl offenses as does martz. neither do you. I know how to coach/play call like Martz. Pass, pass, pass, punt. Pass, pass, pass, punt. Pass, pass, QB sneak, punt. Pass, pass, pass, turnover on downs (failed pass). (look confused on the sidelines) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted May 9, 2006 I know how to coach/play call like Martz. Pass, pass, pass, punt. Pass, pass, pass, punt. Pass, pass, QB sneak, punt. Pass, pass, pass, turnover on downs (failed pass). (look confused on the sidelines) that would be hilarious--if only the data supported that pun of yours hey, maybe you could badmouth kobe for always throwing airballs...or laugh at gretzky for never scoring while you're at it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lions_or_Die 0 Posted May 9, 2006 Can't we sign Herman Moore from his hot dog or barbeque stand there at Ford Field? He could serve his customers when the defense was on the field. I just bet that Brett Perriman and Johnny Morton could be had cheap too! I think we have a winner! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted May 9, 2006 Can't we sign Herman Moore from his hot dog or barbeque stand there at Ford Field? He could serve his customers when the defense was on the field. I just bet that Brett Perriman and Johnny Morton could be had cheap too! I think we have a winner! don't forget willie green! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted May 9, 2006 "Whatever Martz wants, he should get" Too bad for Detroit fans that Martz apparantly doesn't want a legit NFL QB or legit #2 WR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted May 9, 2006 "Whatever Martz wants, he should get" Too bad for Detroit fans that Martz apparantly doesn't want a legit NFL QB or legit #2 WR. I am sure he wanted a QB in the draft between Lein-Hilton & Cutler, but Millen decided to go with a LB instead since he is too scared to pull a trigger for any other Qb after his Suckington man-love-blow up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted May 10, 2006 "Whatever Martz wants, he should get" Too bad for Detroit fans that Martz apparantly doesn't want a legit NFL QB or legit #2 WR. doesn't need them. turner and the bears? yeah, big time. trouble is they don't even have a legit #1 wr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU Bigtime 0 Posted May 10, 2006 Caroll does suck and Rogers hasnt played yet..... Rogers is a WR for the Lions; Rodgers is a QB for the Pack who hasn't played yet.... Got it? HTH Stupid Pack fans don't even know who is on their team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted May 10, 2006 Rogers is a WR for the Lions; Rodgers is a QB for the Pack who hasn't played yet.... Got it? HTH Stupid Pack fans don't even know who is on their team what are you talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted May 10, 2006 what are you talking about? You forgot the 'd' in Rodgers, Lions fans don't have much else so they're resorting to nit picking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted May 11, 2006 You forgot the 'd' in Rodgers, Lions fans don't have much else so they're resorting to nit picking. Only so many times you can watch the DVD of that one playoff victory they had in 50 years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites